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Carole - 15 May 2005 15:13 GMT
Not that I'm going to do this anytime soon, but once my finances get
straightened out, I'd like to go back to NYC to see my niece. I won't
get there for her graduation, but maybe in the fall when the fares go
down again.

Anyway, I know at this point that (a) I can't stand in long lines and
(b) I can't walk long distances (ie from where you check in to the gate
where the plane loads passengers.  A friend and I were talking about
this last night, and I didn't know the answers.

So I was just wondering - when you book a ticket, do you tell the
airline that you will require a wheelchair? And do they have someone
waiting with it when you arrive at the airport?  And do they take you to
where the plane loads?

Carole
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 15 May 2005 16:26 GMT
> Not that I'm going to do this anytime soon, but once my finances get
> straightened out, I'd like to go back to NYC to see my niece. I won't

> get there for her graduation, but maybe in the fall when the fares go

> down again.
>
> Anyway, I know at this point that (a) I can't stand in long lines and

> (b) I can't walk long distances (ie from where you check in to the gate
> where the plane loads passengers.  A friend and I were talking about
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>
> Carole

This is from Denver International and Houston (Bush).  I didn't have to
tell them at all.  I walked in with my cane, and then at check in, the
ticket girl (and guy) asked if I needed a chair.  I said no at the
desk, but when I got to the security area, the guard asked, and I said
yes.  I hadn't realized how quickly I'd get tired.

They brought the wheelchair and the person to navigate it to me.  On
the flight, I just asked the stewardess (air hostess) and she "called
ahead" and they had a person with the chair waiting for me at
debarkation (if that's even a word).

Depending on how you access the plane, in Houston it was one of those
"jetways" that attaches to the plane, they just wheeled the chair all
the way to the door on the jet.  Was quite nice.  If you aren't fond of
wheelchairs, they also have those electric carts (that hold 4 or 5
people) that run back and forth.  Just ask the hostess (on the plane)
or someone at the ticket counter (in the airport).

Smokie Darling (Annie)
Carole - 15 May 2005 21:19 GMT
Thanks, Annie.  I don't have a cane since the problem is with my heart
(although the OA in my knee can act up from time to time). But it's the
shortness of breath and fatigue from my heart ailment that would give me
the problem at the airport. That's why I was wondering . . . I was at
cardiac rehab a couple of weeks ago and one of the ladies said to me
"Gee, you don't look like you have congestive heart failure". I asked
her what CHF looked like, and we both ended up laughing. What I have is
not noticeable in any way from the outside.

The last time I flew there were VERY long lines just to get to the
ticket counter to check in and I know I can't stand for that long. I
have a stool in my kitchen now just so I can make tea :)

I have seen people on those little electric carts (forgot about those!)
and that would be good for me. I can walk around a little bit, just not
the distance one has to go from the check in to the plane.

Carole :)

> This is from Denver International and Houston (Bush).  I didn't have to
> tell them at all.  I walked in with my cane, and then at check in, the
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> Smokie Darling (Annie)
Duckie - 15 May 2005 21:12 GMT
Jen just flew Jet Blue from San Jose to Boston and will
fly it back from Kennedy [the bride's maids all went
into the city via bus $11 per person to continue the
partying for Danielle]. She says she will never, ever,
ever fly anything but Jet Blue again. The front of the
plane has a bit less room she says - so if you want
front it will cost you in leg room. She was middle of
the plane and could cross and uncross her legs without
taking out a loan. The seat back in front of everyone
has a built in TV with 40 channels. The flight
attendants bent over backward being sure everyone was
happy and comfortable. She said when the 'peanuts' were
to be passed out, it turned out it was animal crackers,
dorito's, almonds, and about 5 other things to choose
from. If you wanted two, they gave them to you. She was
waiting for the bathroom about half way here and kind
of holding her arms around herself. Steward asked if
she was cold to which she said yes. He wanted to know
if she wanted a blanket and she said she had one and
didn't want to be greedy. To which he said, we want you
to be comfortable. She said when she went into the
bathroom, it was obvious that it had been cleaned
recently which means they had cleaned it during the flight.
I am thinking Jet Blue. :) Does it go to Seattle?  BTW,
she said she had gotten an $89 one way to Boston.
Guessing it was a special but you almost can't not go
for that price.
Duckie who does not own Jet blue but sure is thinking
about maybe looking at the stock price.

> Not that I'm going to do this anytime soon, but once my finances get
> straightened out, I'd like to go back to NYC to see my niece. I won't
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> Carole

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Carole - 15 May 2005 21:13 GMT
Hi Duckie,

Yes, Jet Blue goes from Seattle to NYC. I was going to take them to go
to Kailyn's graduation, but all of this disability payment nonsense has
deep sixed that one. When I looked at prices, it was around $120 each
way. And now that you've told me that Jet Blue was so accomodating, I'll
definitely take them!

Carole :)

> Jen just flew Jet Blue from San Jose to Boston and will fly it back from
> Kennedy [the bride's maids all went into the city via bus $11 per person
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>> Carole
Nann Bell - 16 May 2005 14:22 GMT
> Duckie who does not own Jet blue but sure is thinking
> about maybe looking at the stock price.

dang!  I wish they were flying where we want to go!  We're just caught in a
smaller market loop for life, I fear.  Then again, wheelchairs usually aren't
a concern for me as we rarely have far to walk, unless we have to pace while
killing time.  (that being the fibro effect of not being able to be still too
long without starting to ache bigtime.)

I will say that we were more comfortable on United this last trip than we
ever were on US Air in the past.  US Air *really* packs together the seats on
some of their planes.  I really like it when I can find flights that have
only two seats on at least one side so Mike and I only have to fight each
other for space.

Seems there should be a website out there now that reports on legroom on
different companies planes........

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Aina Nilsen - 17 May 2005 10:44 GMT
> > Duckie who does not own Jet blue but sure is thinking
> > about maybe looking at the stock price.
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> Seems there should be a website out there now that reports on legroom on
> different companies planes........

www.seatguru.com

There are codes called SSR codes that describes the need a passenger has for
assistance.

http://www.flyi.com/business/ssr.aspx

Just make sure the travel agent knows what your needs are, or call the
airline after booking and have them put in the right code on your booking.

Aina

the lurker in Norway
Carole - 17 May 2005 20:02 GMT
> www.seatguru.com
>
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>
> the lurker in Norway

Thanks for that, Aina. I never knew there was a list of codes available.
I'm wondering what the code:

 MAAS: Customer does not require a wheelchair, but requires assistance.

actually means. I'd be fine as long as they had one of those electric
carts to take me from one place to the other. I can walk but not long
distances.

Anyone know?

Carole :)
Duckie - 17 May 2005 23:36 GMT
Carole -- take the wheelchair. And remind the steward
that you have requested one for the other end.
What you don't need is a wheelchair off the plane. But
those walks up those never ending airplane ramps are a
long way and with the rest of the plane behind you can
be a nightmare. Take the wheelchair.
Duckie

> Thanks for that, Aina. I never knew there was a list of codes available.
> I'm wondering what the code:
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> Carole :)

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Carole - 18 May 2005 02:38 GMT
Ok, will do Duckie. I am hoping to get back to NYC for a short visit as
soon as my disability gets straightened out (which at this point I think
is going to be approximately 15 fifteen minutes after hell freezes over).

Carole
who is not in a good mood today :(

> Carole -- take the wheelchair. And remind the steward that you have
> requested one for the other end.
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>> Carole :)
Nann Bell - 19 May 2005 14:26 GMT
Heck, yeah - might as well save your energy for the fun of the visit - no
need to waste it on silly things like walking the jetway when it can be put
to so much better use in visiting your family.  (I am totally serious here,
no sarcasm or teasing AT ALL!)

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> Ok, will do Duckie. I am hoping to get back to NYC for a short visit as
> soon as my disability gets straightened out (which at this point I think
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>> the plane behind you can be a nightmare. Take the wheelchair.
>> Duckie
Aina Nilsen - 18 May 2005 21:38 GMT
> > www.seatguru.com
> >
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>
> Carole :)

I've had someone meet me at the gate as if I needed to be accompanied from
one gate to the other with MAAS code put on my ticket. I probably didn't do
a good job in telling them what kind of help I needed.

WCHC is when you have to be carried in and out of the aircraft seet. WCHR is
when you can't walk far but is able to use steps- this is normally the
electric carts or a wheelchair from gate to gate. WCHS is when you can't use
a step and therefore not walk onto the electric cart and must be taken by a
wheelchair.  There are quiet a few other as well, but I would guess these
are the most  typical for travlers in our group.

Most airlines will have special pages where they tell you how they can help
people with special needs.

Aina
still lurking in Norway
Carole - 19 May 2005 03:40 GMT
> I've had someone meet me at the gate as if I needed to be accompanied from
> one gate to the other with MAAS code put on my ticket. I probably didn't do
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> Aina
> still lurking in Norway

Thanks, Aina. You've been a big help :-)  And don't lurk so much, join
in the fun here :)) We'll even share our chocolate :)

Carole
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 19 May 2005 14:20 GMT
Not the dark chocolate, though.  :-D  Carole's right, Aina.  Don't go away.

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> Carole
Aina Nilsen - 30 May 2005 17:29 GMT
The problem is real life... To busy to get in here most days, so when I
have a day off I may sit down and read 500 posts or more. So even if I read
99 % of the posts, I would be terribly late in answering them if I were to
participate more.  So I limit myeself to good thoughts most of the time.
(And the only chocolate I like is dark... ;-))

Aina
still lurking in Norway

> Not the dark chocolate, though.  :-D  Carole's right, Aina.  Don't go away.
>
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> > Carole
Gwen Love - 30 May 2005 17:38 GMT
Aina, lurk all you want; just post occasionally so we know you are still
there.
Gwen

> The problem is real life... To busy to get in here most days, so when I
> have a day off I may sit down and read 500 posts or more. So even if I read
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> > > Carole
Aina Nilsen - 31 May 2005 19:01 GMT
Thank you, Gwen, I will. As mentioned I do read most of the posts and if it
looks like it is the odd occasion where I actually know something useful, I
try to post even if it is a bit late at times.

Aina
the lurker in Norway

> Aina, lurk all you want; just post occasionally so we know you are still
> there.
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> > > > Carole
Duckie - 15 May 2005 21:18 GMT
Oh - wheelchairs. Book it when you book the flight.
They usually bring one to me at check in even if that
is curb side. Sometimes they tell me to wait inside and
they will call but I don't have to walk too much. They
take you to the right gate and leave you there usually
pointing you out to gate attendants or putting you
close enough that the gate attendant will not miss you.
I tip anywhere from $5 to $20 depending on how much
walking the person has had to do. At Logan, it could
mean miles inside the terminal, down to baggage claim,
get bags and then out to the limo stand which might
mean another mile of walking pushing me and the bag.
{the little weekender I put on the arm of the
wheelchair - a bigger bag they have to pull}.
Once I got in a pickle when they changed gates and
there I was with no way to get the mile beyond. Did
finally find someone to tell so they could get me where
I needed to go but that is rare. There is one idiot
airline where we changed planes that said they didn't
have wheelchairs, all I would have to do was walk two
miles to the carts and they would take me. I said - if
I could walk two miles, I wouldn't NEED a wheelchair.
They didn't get it.  And once in Europe, the language
barrier nearly got me stranded but I finally shoved the
ticket into someone's face and then they panicked for
me. lol
The wheelchair is really the way to go to and fro.
Highly recommend it.
Duckie

> Not that I'm going to do this anytime soon, but once my finances get
> straightened out, I'd like to go back to NYC to see my niece. I won't
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Gwen Love - 15 May 2005 21:32 GMT
Depending on where you book your ticket, you may be able to tell that party
that you require a wheelchair.  If not that, when you get to the crubside
check in, tell them.  They will get it for you, and they take you wherever
you need to go.  At the gate, I was left in the wheelchair so I could be
rolled to the door of the plane.  I would never make it through an airport
without the wheelchair.  I keep some small bills in my pocket so I can tip
whoever helps me.
Gwen

> Not that I'm going to do this anytime soon, but once my finances get
> straightened out, I'd like to go back to NYC to see my niece. I won't
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