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Duckie - 09 May 2005 20:47 GMT
Well, I have had dose #3. The other lady is doing
really well. She has left her fatigue behind. She said
it lifted Saturday morning. She also says she is pretty
much pain free.
I have more pain today than last week, just under being
nauseous from it. And my fatigue was at a 10. I got
relief from stiffness for 6 days and by Sunday the pain
had returned so by this morning I was a mess.
This is working but just not as well as I had hoped. It
is really working well for the other lady. Nurses keep
telling me to wait. I have this dose [which is now in
me] and one left to go. Guess there is a reason they
give 4 doses. My guess is that I will not be one of the
ones having it last for 15 months. I am just hoping it
will get me more than a week.
Think I am getting a bit depressed. Too tired and in
pain to keep going at the moment but I will turn this
corner. I always do.
Duckie
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Melissa - 09 May 2005 22:55 GMT
I'm sorry this isn't turning out to be your magic bullet. I hope maybe
you just need that one more dose.

Hang in there, Duckie.

(((Duckie))))

melissa

>Well, I have had dose #3. The other lady is doing
>really well. She has left her fatigue behind. She said
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>corner. I always do.
>Duckie
Diane - 10 May 2005 00:38 GMT
oh crumb bun, duckie,

i wish it would work better for you. i'm guessing i'd have the same
response, since you and i seem to do about the same with drugs. i know
you're too tired to answer this now, but i don't understand the 4 dose
thing. do you have 4 and then wait for more, or are 4 doses supposed to
last you the 15 months?
answer when you feel up to it.
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{duckie}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

diane
Susanne - 10 May 2005 02:02 GMT
What is this drug? Is it like remicade? How is it given and how often?
I have been happy with remicade but it doesn't help with my energy. Is this
one supposed to help with this?

Susanne

> oh crumb bun, duckie,
>
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> diane
Duckie - 10 May 2005 02:25 GMT
It is new. It is an infusion given once a week for 4
weeks and then not again for 9+ MONTHS. It has been in
trials for RA but is already approved for use in non
Hodgkin's lymphoma treatment. No I am not in a trial.
My doctor is giving it with the other medication you
are on in hopes of busting the drugs you are presently
taking. He has had good luck with EVERYONE who has
tried it before me. I still have hopes but my body is
fighting back big time. Maybe all the pain I am getting
is like the body's reaction to antibiotic therapy -
once last hurrah before giving in to the drug therapy.
I don't know. People who were in the trials have raved
about it. It was all they took and it latest them
anywhere between 9 - 15 months.
Today's infusion actually went faster. I think we were
out of there in 4 hours instead of the previous 5 or 5+.
Duckie

> What is this drug? Is it like remicade? How is it given and how often?
> I have been happy with remicade but it doesn't help with my energy. Is this
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Duckie - 10 May 2005 02:31 GMT
That should read boosting as in supporting, helping
aiding... not busting.

> It is new. It is an infusion given once a week for 4 weeks and then not
> again for 9+ MONTHS. It has been in trials for RA but is already
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d'huit - 10 May 2005 07:43 GMT
(((((((((((((((((duckie)))))))))))))))))  i know things like this can
sometimes be discouraging, but i'm sooo proud of you for having the courage
to hang in there, to see it through.  that's not easy because some of these
procedures are just plain time consuming and unpleasant; and there's always
that teeny bit of doubt in the back of our minds about whether something
will work/help or not.  but, i'm hoping your strength of character will be
rewarded by a cumulative positive effect from this entire series of
infusions.  i just don't see you as being the odd duck out, in the results
of these infusions.  na-uh, duckie, you have too many moma ducks wanting to
hover over you, to fan you with their soothing wings and to help you ride
the rough wakes, for that to happen.  we're all pulling for you and we're
all in it together with you, sweetie.  just hop aboard this moma duck's
back, when you are weary, and let me paddle for you for awhile.

how does that nusery song go--

you're a little white duck
swimming in the water;
a little white duck
doing what she oughta.
she took a bite of a lilly pad
swallowed it up and
she said, "i'm glad!"

here's to you saying, "i'm glad!" when the series is overwith and the
cumulative positive results are finally present enough in your body to make
you glad that you went through this.  that's my wish and my prayer for you,
and i'm sticking to it!

kate

> It is new. It is an infusion given once a week for 4 weeks and then not
> again for 9+ MONTHS. It has been in trials for RA but is already approved
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Duckie - 11 May 2005 20:18 GMT
Thanks Kate. This made me cry -- cause you are so sweet
and I so need to let someone else do the paddling. Woke
up this morning moaning. Every joint is on fire. Called
the RD's office and they have an alert out for him for
tomorrow as he is not there today. Asked if I had pain
meds in the house in the meantime. Took my Ultram this
morning and it lowered the screaming but I have just
fixed myself my mother's cramp busting concoction which
has no warning on the bottle for 'every so many hours'.
Jack Daniel's, Triple Sec, Rum and OJ. Drink until your
nose is numb - repeat.
Had a facial a while ago and just ordered some clothes
from Land's End so feeling better. hehehe
Duckie

> (((((((((((((((((duckie)))))))))))))))))  i know things like this can
> sometimes be discouraging, but i'm sooo proud of you for having the courage
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> kate
d'huit - 11 May 2005 21:41 GMT
> Thanks Kate. This made me cry -- cause you are so sweet and I so need to
> let someone else do the paddling. Woke up this morning moaning. Every
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> feeling better. hehehe
> Duckie

<smiling> so, like buying clothes from land's end and having a facial are
the side effects of your mom's cramp busting concoction?  not bad side
effects to have to deal with.heheheh
sooo, what are the ratios of jd to triple sec to rum to oj?  i might want to
try this one myself!  sounds like it's got pain meds beat by  a country
mile.

feel better soon, sweetie.  i don't want you to hurt anymore.
(((((((((duckie))))))))  you are in my thoughts and prayers, hon.

kate
(paddling for all i'm worth for you)

>> (((((((((((((((((duckie)))))))))))))))))  i know things like this can
>> sometimes be discouraging, but i'm sooo proud of you for having the
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>> kate
Duckie - 13 May 2005 01:07 GMT
Okay, JD 1oz, Triple sec and Rum 1/2 each. Ice into
glass and splash as much oj into as possible [not much
will fit].
And just for clarification, I bought the clothes and
had the facial BEFORE the concoction. But it did cut
the pain and I got to sleep.
Duckie

> <smiling> so, like buying clothes from land's end and having a facial are
> the side effects of your mom's cramp busting concoction?  not bad side
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> kate
> (paddling for all i'm worth for you)
Nann Bell - 15 May 2005 04:23 GMT
> Okay, JD 1oz, Triple sec and Rum 1/2 each. Ice into
> glass and splash as much oj into as possible [not much
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> the pain and I got to sleep.
> Duckie

I'm hanging on to that recipe.  I may need it if my Enbrel shot doesn't kick
in soon.  I only went back on my Enbrel after the illnesses last week and I
was late getting it this week.  My pharmacy called in 2 orders for it - one
on Friday (last week) and one on Monday.  Their supplier decided it was a
duplicate and only sent one batch.  They called and gave them what for, but
couldn't get the second batch until Friday morning - late.  We left early
Friday morn to help with the spring cleanup of the kitchen at our church
camp.  (the kitchen has to be clean before the general cleaning volunteers
arrive next week - so they can feed them!)  We scrubbed counters and shelves
and washed and dried and dried and dried dishes.  My hands and feet ahve been
screaming at me ever since.  Finallly got my Enbrel today and got going again
on getting it built up in my system.  sigh............

Duckie, I really understand how you can be flaring so much with all you've
been doing.  Just one day of spring cleaning, actually only 6 hours of it,
did me in.  I fell asleep on the loveseat about 9:15 last night and finally
woke enough to get to bed about 3 hours later.  fitful sleep the rest of the
night.  How on earth have you at all survived clearing out your house?

would have liked to see what clothes you bought AFTER the pain cocktail!

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Gwen Love - 12 May 2005 03:57 GMT
Duckie, maybe you are paying for all the work you did cleaning and packing.
That was no easy job.  Even keeping your big house clean would wear me out.
I do hope you get to the doc tomorrow and get relief from all the pain.
Gwen

> Thanks Kate. This made me cry -- cause you are so sweet
> and I so need to let someone else do the paddling. Woke
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> > kate
Diane - 12 May 2005 05:03 GMT
duckie, this is terrible to hear. i hope you are a little better today.
i feel so bad for you that with all the stuff you're on, you still are
in pain. glad you had a facial. and wouldn't a massage be nice?

diane
Nann Bell - 12 May 2005 10:53 GMT
Oh, I hate it that you are feeling so lousy.  My recommendation is a week off
at some lovely spa somewhere, with a well-stocked bar and you with a
well-stocked med bag.  Hope the doctor helps you out more tomorrow (today
now, I guess)

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> Thanks Kate. This made me cry -- cause you are so sweet
> and I so need to let someone else do the paddling. Woke
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> from Land's End so feeling better. hehehe
> Duckie
Duckie - 10 May 2005 02:20 GMT
It is actually 4 doses and then again in 9 months or
later if you can go that long. It is not looking good
for me. I did make it to my pilates class tonight.
Those girls made me laugh so it was worth it. At one
point while the advanced group was doing the boxes, I
rested. Actually, I fell sound asleep. Woke up to
hearing my name being called by the teacher. heh - the
little naps are important. It is a good group and I did
what I could and rested when I couldn't but the crowd
lifted my spirit. All that talk of tricep work - point
to where you nipples used to be - just can't help but
laugh.
Well, I still have one dose to go so not giving up hope
yet. And I am still on Remicade and Arava so I am not
flying alone. But sure wish something would work. I
have been holding out to have my knee injected to just
before the Portland Gimpfest but my body is screaming
for it now. I am still sitting at 4mg orally and
looking longingly at the bottle of 5mgs. I just know
that would make me feel better but I can't go through
that withdrawal process again. It is just too hard.
Duckie

> oh crumb bun, duckie,
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> diane

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Kelly Cobb - 10 May 2005 02:55 GMT
((((Duckie))))

I so wish this could be 'the one' for you and that you could find pain free
days.

Hugs,
Kelly C.

> Well, I have had dose #3. The other lady is doing
> really well. She has left her fatigue behind. She said
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> corner. I always do.
> Duckie
Gwen Love - 10 May 2005 03:19 GMT
Pray that 5th one will be the real miracle for you.
Gwen

> Well, I have had dose #3. The other lady is doing
> really well. She has left her fatigue behind. She said
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> corner. I always do.
> Duckie
Gwen Love - 10 May 2005 03:22 GMT
I nmeant I hope the 4th one will be the real miracle --sorry!
Gwen

> Well, I have had dose #3. The other lady is doing
> really well. She has left her fatigue behind. She said
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> corner. I always do.
> Duckie
Adelle - 10 May 2005 06:36 GMT
Well, that sucks!
Here's hoping that #4 does what it is supposed to.

Adelle

> Well, I have had dose #3. The other lady is doing really well. She has
> left her fatigue behind. She said it lifted Saturday morning. She also
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> the moment but I will turn this corner. I always do.
> Duckie
Nann Bell - 10 May 2005 12:59 GMT
(((((((((((((Duckie))))))))))))  You just have too much going on all at once.
May something get easier for you!  Any chance of just giving yourself a day
off for fun - preferably before this shot wears off.  After all the work
you've been doing, you've more than earned some pampering.

I hear you on the fatigue and pain front.  I'm not quite as bad as you, but
I'm still paying for being sick most of last month.  Finally back on
everything and starting Relafen to replace the Bextra, but still waiting for
the combined effects to kick in.  And now it's been overcast, warm and humid
for the last two days.  Bleh.  Go pamper youself, then report back to us and
make us all feel better imagining it!

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