I had the opportunity to meet with Katleen Turner at a conference
sponsered by Immunex a few years back. She was the keynote speaker at
our dinner. She was very forthcoming with us as the keynote speaker and
spent some time before dinner chatting with us over cocktails. At the
time she was on Enbrel and MTX. Unless things have changed, I would
think that is her protocol. Although, if she has had a TKR, she might
have changed meds cause I don't remember her saying anything about it
then. This isn't her "coming out" -- She's talked about it many times
before. I think she just prefers not to dwell on it.
Diane W
RoseB - 17 Apr 2005 06:20 GMT
This isn't her "coming out" -- She's talked about it many times
>before. I think she just prefers not to dwell on it.
>
>Diane W
Oh, I did not know that (or did not remember if you had mentioned it
here). I am glad to hear that though as initially she was reluctant
to mention it for fear that it would compromise her chances of getting
scripts. She did mention that on this segment- that she was reluctant
to mention it because RA was poorly understood.
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Nann Bell - 17 Apr 2005 14:11 GMT
> Oh, I did not know that (or did not remember if you had mentioned it
> here). I am glad to hear that though as initially she was reluctant
> to mention it for fear that it would compromise her chances of getting
> scripts. She did mention that on this segment- that she was reluctant
> to mention it because RA was poorly understood.
IIRC, she came out with it after she was on Enbrel and feeling better, that
before that she didn't want word to get out in the Hollywood "community" as
it could jeopardize getting roles.

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DianeW - 17 Apr 2005 15:39 GMT
I didn't hear this from Kathleen but from another actress on a talk
show, but they have to be "insurable" during the time they are working
on a film or whatever. If they disclose an illness it can compromise
their insurability.
Athena - 17 Apr 2005 18:09 GMT
Her interview in the Boston Globe said she had the TKR so she could
take this new role in "Who's afraid of Virgina Wolf".
So it's a recent thing I guess.
DianeW - 17 Apr 2005 20:36 GMT
Wasn't she in the Graduate for a while?
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Boron Elgar - 17 Apr 2005 22:44 GMT
>I didn't hear this from Kathleen but from another actress on a talk
>show, but they have to be "insurable" during the time they are working
>on a film or whatever. If they disclose an illness it can compromise
>their insurability.
If they do not disclose an illness and there are problems, it can
compromise them in legal and financial ways.
Boron
Charlie - 18 Apr 2005 00:21 GMT
Please forgive my ignorance, but what is TKR?
>>I didn't hear this from Kathleen but from another actress on a talk
>>show, but they have to be "insurable" during the time they are working
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>
> Boron
RoseB - 18 Apr 2005 00:24 GMT
>Please forgive my ignorance, but what is TKR?
total knee replacement
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> ON one of the tabloid tv shows, on their weekend edition, they have a
> feature on Kathleen Turner, and she discloses about her RA, having a
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> I was impressed though that she finally "came out" about it,
> Rose @}>->--
insurability might be an issue i don't really think so though, because lots
of arthritics have made movies and there are always insurance companies who
will insure any actors for the "right price"--that's not going to stop
production. heck, the insurance companies knew spencer tracy was dying in
his last movie, but he was still insured/insurable, just in case he
died/couldn't finish the movie and that's why they shot the ending scenes
first. james garner is very, very arthritic (can barely walk and i think
he's had just about every joint imaginable replaced) and is still insurable.
but there is also this sad and dumb age-stigma that talented actresses have
to deal with, and the general populace still thinks arthritis is an
oldster's disease. so it stigmatizes actresses that way too.
turner has been forthright with her RA for quite awhile now. i noticed
weight gain and pred cheeks on turner when she played a psychotic mother
lead in a comedy, years back. teri garr (who was in "close encounters of
the third kind"), who lives in the puget sound on whidbey island i believe,
is another actress who appears to have RA, and the weight gain and pred
cheeks. i actually miss both garr and turner in movies a great deal. i bet
a lot of fans do, because they are both so versatile, can do both drama and
comedy with ease, they are so talented. garr does do occasional local tv
commercials for the radio station she owns up here.
kate
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> to understand it. RB
>
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Karen Palmer - 19 Apr 2005 00:16 GMT
Kate,
Terri Garr has MS. She's been on Larry King and other shows talking about
it
Karen
> turner has been forthright with her RA for quite awhile now. i noticed
> weight gain and pred cheeks on turner when she played a psychotic mother
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> >
> > Please remove "Ima" to reply.
d'huit - 19 Apr 2005 00:34 GMT
> Kate,
> Terri Garr has MS. She's been on Larry King and other shows talking about
> it
>
> Karen
ok. i thought she had RA or some form of arthritis. but do they treat ms
with pred? she has the classic signs of pred treatment, karen.
kate
>> turner has been forthright with her RA for quite awhile now. i noticed
>> weight gain and pred cheeks on turner when she played a psychotic mother
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>> >
>> > Please remove "Ima" to reply.
DianeW - 19 Apr 2005 03:30 GMT
Yes they treat MS with pred. Teri was in denial about her MS for almost
20 years. She came out with it last year when she was made a
spokesperson for one of the MS drugs. Don't remember which one.
DianeW (who has both MS and RA.)
d'huit - 19 Apr 2005 03:43 GMT
> Yes they treat MS with pred. Teri was in denial about her MS for almost
> 20 years. She came out with it last year when she was made a
> spokesperson for one of the MS drugs. Don't remember which one.
> DianeW (who has both MS and RA.)
thank you, dianew. i hadn't seen or read about it or the ms drug
spokesperson designation. but, you've cleared up a lot about teri garr for
me. thanks, again.
kate
Nann Bell - 20 Apr 2005 05:04 GMT
>> turner has been forthright with her RA for quite awhile now. i noticed
>> weight gain and pred cheeks on turner when she played a psychotic mother
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> is another actress who appears to have RA, and the weight gain and pred
>> cheeks.
I remember that for a while Kathleen Turner was willing to let people think
her weight gain and puffy cheeks and periodic lack of co-ordination was due
to alcohol problems rather than admit the RA. They'll hire you in Hollywood
if you drink, but shy away if you have RA. Sad state of affairs. (I wonder
if that's as true for the men as for the women, knowing what a double
standard there is in Hollywood anyway.)
Hopefully these strong female actors who HAVE been doing some phenomonal
(sp?) work while being open about their chronic illnesses will effect some
change. We can hope. Kudos to them for fighting the good fight. (I include
Melissa Gilbert who also has MS in the list and I know there are a couple of
others I can't think of right now.)

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RoseB - 20 Apr 2005 05:29 GMT
>Hopefully these strong female actors who HAVE been doing some phenomonal
>(sp?) work while being open about their chronic illnesses will effect some
>change. We can hope. Kudos to them for fighting the good fight. (I include
>Melissa Gilbert who also has MS in the list and I know there are a couple of
>others I can't think of right now.)
Can't think either, but the girl who played Erin on the Waltons has
lupus and I believe has been vocal about that.
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Karen Palmer - 20 Apr 2005 10:48 GMT
James Garner just announced he is going to be a spokesman for Lupus
Awareness. His daughter has it.
Karen
> >Hopefully these strong female actors who HAVE been doing some phenomonal
> >(sp?) work while being open about their chronic illnesses will effect some
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Karen Palmer - 20 Apr 2005 10:47 GMT
The ironic thing is after all of that it turns out she did have an alcohol
problem on top of the RA.
Karen
> >> turner has been forthright with her RA for quite awhile now. i noticed
> >> weight gain and pred cheeks on turner when she played a psychotic mother
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Melissa Gilbert who also has MS in the list and I know there are a couple of
> others I can't think of right now.)
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 20 Apr 2005 22:31 GMT
> > ON one of the tabloid tv shows, on their weekend edition, they have a
> > feature on Kathleen Turner, and she discloses about her RA, having a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> will insure any actors for the "right price"--that's not going to stop
> production.
This touches on your later comment, but why would a studio pay (as an
example) an extra $100,000 (I don't actually know what the charge would
be to insure KT, this is just a number I'm throwing out there) for
Kathleen Turner to be insured, when they can have Diane Keaton or
Julianne Moore for the same salary and less insurance cost?
heck, the insurance companies knew spencer tracy was dying in
> his last movie, but he was still insured/insurable, just in case he
> died/couldn't finish the movie and that's why they shot the ending scenes
> first.
Being a huge Spencer Tracy fan, I have to interject here. The only
reason he was "allowed" to be in Guess Who's Coming to Dinner was
because Katharine Hepburn and Stanley Kramer (the director) put up
their salaries as a guarantee he'd be able to finish the film. Or so
says the emcee on Turner Classic Movies and some book that I can now no
longer remember. I just remember being incredibly impressed with the
director to take the financial risk.
james garner is very, very arthritic (can barely walk and i think
> he's had just about every joint imaginable replaced) and is still insurable.
> but there is also this sad and dumb age-stigma that talented actresses have
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> weight gain and pred cheeks on turner when she played a psychotic mother
> lead in a comedy, years back.
But many people (fans and some in Hollyweird) thought she had a
drinking problem prior to her "coming out" about RA, and that could
also have explained away the facial swelling (though those of us on
Prednisone can generally tell the difference). In fact, I think it was
because of the drinking rumors that she decided to come clean about RA.
teri garr (who was in "close encounters of
> the third kind"), who lives in the puget sound on whidbey island i believe,
> is another actress who appears to have RA, and the weight gain and pred
> cheeks. i actually miss both garr and turner in movies a great deal.
i bet
> a lot of fans do, because they are both so versatile, can do both drama and
> comedy with ease, they are so talented. garr does do occasional local tv
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Athena - 21 Apr 2005 00:21 GMT
I believe that most people do things with the best intentions and I try
not to second guess motives. When I first was diagnosed with RA and
in terrible pain I read an interview in Arthritis Today about Kathleen
Turner which I found very comforting. She described how she had been
when she first got RA, how she coped and how she is now. That article
started me having hope.
Elizabeth