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ok.  how high is scary high?

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d'huit - 11 Apr 2005 22:53 GMT
i just got a call from my rd instructing me to call my pcp, asap.  (geesh,
how many acronyms can a person use in a sentence without losing meaning?)
seems my wbc is up a bit.  so i called my pcp, who was just about to call me
to come in tomorrow morning, because my wbc is up a bit.  (drat!  there goes
my self-pampering plans for before i have to go in for the thoracic
injection.)

soooo, i ran out to my mailbox, to see if i just received my copy of this
mysterious number called, "up a bit", too.   i did.  apparently, numbers are
not what we think they are, consistantly--especially when it comes to white
blood cells, because the numbers run 16.0, 16.1, up a bit, 16.3, 16.4 and so
on.

so, ok.  i've got a wbc that is up a bit.  if normal wbc runs 4.0---11.0 and
i've got "up a bit", how bad is that?  i mean, why am i getting the feeling
that two doctors are in a hurry to mobilize and have one of them see me
about "up a bit"?  i mean, how high is scary high?  and why?

kate
janers - 11 Apr 2005 22:58 GMT
It might mean you got an infection brewing somewhere and they need to check
it out.

That is usually what happens when you get a bug .  Even if you don't know
it.

Or ?
So just get it checked and be safe ok?
janers
Newsgroup Spambuster - 11 Apr 2005 23:33 GMT
Kate,

A wbc count of 16 is high enough to warrant a check to make sure an
infection isn't brewing somewhere.   If there is, catching it early will
be a good thing.  

That being said, however, other things can effect your wbc.  One of
which is steroid injections (even if they are in your back!).   How
close to your last injection did you have your blood drawn?   If it was
within a few days, then the jump up in the wbc may very well be from the
steroid injection.  Always better to get it checked though just to be on
the safe side!

I wouldn't say 16 is scary high but high enough for a doctor to be
concerned enough to just double check things.  

When I had my double pneumonia, my wbc count was 26 before the IV
steroids were started and my usual wbc count runs around 11-12 or so, so
the docs knew I definitely had something brewing!

Praying that this is nothing serious and just a little bump in the road
for your doctors to double check.   Keep us posted!

Donna G
RhondaM - 11 Apr 2005 23:58 GMT
That sounds like you have a infection starting or something like that. Best
to nip it in the bud than to be really bad later. It is good that you have a
good doc that stays on top of things. Those docs are rare. I thought I saw
someone post about steroid inj being the cause. I was wondering why my PCP
was always checking my bloood count.. I guess theres my answer.
Anyways hang in there.

RhondaM

>i just got a call from my rd instructing me to call my pcp, asap.  (geesh,
>how many acronyms can a person use in a sentence without losing meaning?)
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> kate
d'huit - 12 Apr 2005 00:41 GMT
whew!  thanks, you guys!--janers, donnag and rhonda.   you helped a lot.
i'm such a hypochondriac, my brain was spinning!LOL  just checked my temp
and it was very low grade.  whew!  infection for me goes from no temp to 104
or higher so fast nobody sees it coming and i don't feel it.

donna, my injection was on the 1st and the blood draw on the 7th.  dunno if
that was culprit or not, but it sounds like it might be what you and rhonda
said, or a bug, as janers said.

kate
(feeling lots better about "up a bit", i just don't want it for a pet.)

>i just got a call from my rd instructing me to call my pcp, asap.  (geesh,
>how many acronyms can a person use in a sentence without losing meaning?)
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> kate
spodosaurus - 12 Apr 2005 04:20 GMT
> i just got a call from my rd instructing me to call my pcp, asap.  (geesh,
> how many acronyms can a person use in a sentence without losing meaning?)
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>
> kate

What is the differential? There should be numbers (or at least
percentages) for neutrophils, lymphocytes, monocytes, and eosonophils.

Cheers,

Ari

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d'huit - 12 Apr 2005 04:35 GMT
oh.  ok, ari.  all the differentials are in normal ranges, except for:

neut abs is  9.9 (high);  normal is 2.0--7.3
lymph abs is 5.0 (high); normal is 1.0--3.4
mono abs is 1.0 (high); normal is 0.0--0.1

platelets are also elevated at 498; normal is150--400, but that has come
down from where it was about a year or so ago and looks good to me (was
between 562 to 587 for a couple of years, though one time, just once, it hit
623 and i started worrying).

sed rate is normal at 30; normal being 0--30

kate

>> i just got a call from my rd instructing me to call my pcp, asap.
>> (geesh, how many acronyms can a person use in a sentence without losing
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> Ari
spodosaurus - 12 Apr 2005 11:36 GMT
> oh.  ok, ari.  all the differentials are in normal ranges, except for:
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> kate

Wow, all elevated in terms of the white cell counts I usually look at.
Have you seen the doc yet? What did he say? I'll gladly accept your
excess platelets and white cells!!! :-) :-) You have seen a
haematologist about this, right? Seeing as the platelets have been
elevated for quite some time... You REALLY REALLY need to.

Ari

>>>i just got a call from my rd instructing me to call my pcp, asap.
>>>(geesh, how many acronyms can a person use in a sentence without losing
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>>Ari

Signature

spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

d'huit - 12 Apr 2005 15:15 GMT
>> oh.  ok, ari.  all the differentials are in normal ranges, except for:
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> Ari

not yet.  my pcp's appmt. for the wbc is at 11:45 a.m. this morning.

and nope-- my pcp (internist), neurologist and my rd (also an internist,
before specializing in rheumatology) didn't seem too concerned about my
platelets (i checked my file on blood labs and my platelets have been up
since 2001).  pcp said i definitely have thrombocytosis (sp?) and said
"someday, we might want to do" a bone marrow test of some sort.  think she
said it might be a mitochondrial thing, but that might have been about
something else---can't really remember if she was referring to platelets or
not.

kate

>>>>i just got a call from my rd instructing me to call my pcp, asap.
>>>>(geesh, how many acronyms can a person use in a sentence without losing
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>>>Ari
spodosaurus - 12 Apr 2005 15:32 GMT
>>>oh.  ok, ari.  all the differentials are in normal ranges, except for:
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> kate

Okay.... I really have to question your PCPs judgment in not sending you
to a haematologist years ago. If you plan on having a bone marrow
biopsy, do NOT let your PCP do it (if you want the kind that isn't
excrutiatingly painful and actually yields results).

>>>>>i just got a call from my rd instructing me to call my pcp, asap.
>>>>>(geesh, how many acronyms can a person use in a sentence without losing
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>>>>
>>>>Ari

Signature

spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

d'huit - 12 Apr 2005 15:49 GMT
>>>>oh.  ok, ari.  all the differentials are in normal ranges, except for:
>>>>
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> do NOT let your PCP do it (if you want the kind that isn't excrutiatingly
> painful and actually yields results).

thank you, ari.  i'm pretty sure that if my pcp wants me to have one, she
will refer me to somebody else.  she's good about that.  personally, and
especially because my platelet numbers have been dropping since last year, i
think i'll wait to see if they return to normal.  a bone marrow biopsy
doesn't sound like something i'd want to put myself through, unless it is
absolutely necessary.  i was told, i'm actually functioning better than i
should be with all the skeletal damage i have, which says to me that this
platelet thing isn't hindering or working against me so far.

kate

>>>>>>i just got a call from my rd instructing me to call my pcp, asap.
>>>>>>(geesh, how many acronyms can a person use in a sentence without
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>>>>>Ari
 
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