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update on the epidural saga

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d'huit - 09 Mar 2005 18:25 GMT
last thursday was the last of the series of 3 L5-S1 epidurals for me.  i'm
still walking, 99% of the time, without a limp (barametric changes
notwithstanding).  so, i'm still a happy camper with the result.  sitting is
easier now and i can actually stand long enough to cook a real meal--i mean,
a real meal with a complicated recipe<smile>.  i'm still managing to sleep 5
hours in a row, though the lower back gets a little cranky in bed once in
awhile, (but my upper spine is cranky all the time anyway), so that's not a
huge issue.<smile>

FYI - found out that there are NO limits to the number of spinal epidurals
one can have during the course of a year, in the same area/spot (unlike
cortisone injections into my thumb or knee).  some patients even have an
epidural once a week, or 52 injections a year (was also told that one of dr.
alex's patients actually only needs the 3 shot series once every 3
years---now, that's cool and wouldn't i love that<smile>).  the reason for
that lack of limitation on the number of epidurals is that because cortisone
is applied directly to (bathes) the offended spinal nerves, a very small
dose is necessary to accomplish that process.  however, he said when one
reaches the level of 5 or 6 injections, then it is advisable ("required" by
him) to have one's pcp or rd or neuro more closely supervise the patient's
adjunct pain management to make certain it is adequate.

immediately after my second epidural, i coughed upon rising from epidural
table and my left fist immediately went to my upper spine to press my fist
against it.  it's a habit i've developed.  dr. noticed that and asked me why
i did that.  and i told him it was because coughing or sneezing causes pain
in my upper spine and if i didn't use my fist in just the right spot, muscle
spasms would follow.

he said he noticed that i brought both lumbar and thoracic mri's (because
they were done at the same time) and decided to look at the thoracic films.
said where i put my fist is exactly where i have a ruptured disk that's a
little worse than my lumbar disk.  (T8, i think he said.)  anyway, he said
that because the epidural  helped my lower spine so much, he felt we can
also deal with my fist/coughing/sneezing issue.  sooo, i just have to get my
pcp to write the doctor's order so we can tackle that one with an epidural
series.  now, how cool is that?!  i haven't had a chance to call my pcp and
arrange for that yet, cuz things have been a bit hectic here, with company
(sil and bil up from nevada) and all.  but, i'm soooo looking forward to see
if that helps!

i have a bit of migraine aura beginning, so things a little difficult to see
on the screen at the moment.  but i guess i don't need to write a
book.<smile>

kate
debbie m. - 09 Mar 2005 18:46 GMT
Kate,

What good news.  Thanks for keeping us updated!

debbie m.
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/

> last thursday was the last of the series of 3 L5-S1 epidurals for me.  i'm
> still walking, 99% of the time, without a limp (barametric changes
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> kate
d'huit - 10 Mar 2005 01:09 GMT
> Kate,
>
> What good news.  Thanks for keeping us updated!
>
> debbie m.

yeah.  thanx, debbie.

kate
> http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/
>
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>> kate
Harvey R. Stone - 09 Mar 2005 19:25 GMT
> i have a bit of migraine aura beginning, so things a little difficult to
> see on the screen at the moment.  but i guess i don't need to write a
> book.<smile>
>
> kate

Hi Kate ,,, this doctor is a winner.   I can just see his/her mind working
as the doc put 2-2 to get 4.    Please give into the brightness thing,
stress thing,,, whatever.    Rest,,,, cool out and know that you have done
so many positive things and made so many of the right choices.
Please do not let this doctor get away.
Harv
d'huit - 10 Mar 2005 01:10 GMT
>> i have a bit of migraine aura beginning, so things a little difficult to
>> see on the screen at the moment.  but i guess i don't need to write a
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> Please do not let this doctor get away.
> Harv

thank you, harv.  that's very sweet of you to say.  and i agree with you
that he's a keeper.

kate
Squirrely - 09 Mar 2005 20:32 GMT
this is great to hear Kate, I am so happy for you. Hope the next ones do the
trick for the coughing sneezing stuff. I really am so happy for you. ;-)

You deserve the best.

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> last thursday was the last of the series of 3 L5-S1 epidurals for me.  i'm
> still walking, 99% of the time, without a limp (barametric changes
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> kate
Newsgroup Spambuster - 09 Mar 2005 23:21 GMT
Yipeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Kate, so very happy to hear that the epidurals have worked so well for
you.  Praying that the next round on your upper spine work equally as
well.   You soooooo deserve the break from the constant, unrelenting
pain my friend!!!    Enjoy and keep doing something good for yourself!!!

Hugs!

Donna G
d'huit - 10 Mar 2005 02:01 GMT
> Yipeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
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> Donna G

((((((((((((((((((back at'cha)))))))))))))))  thank you for being happy for
me and sharing in my own joy.

i have to admit that having so much of the lower pain relieved, as it has
been, has made me feel sooooooooo very lucky and blest.  i almost feel
greedy for wanting my mid spine to feel better too.  it's a kind of strange
thing that some of us go through, i think---it's that:   kind of wondering
how i can even want more after having been given so much goodness already;
that weird knowing or "stinking-thinking" that i don't deserve more
blessedness, but sometimes and somehow get it anyway.

it's certainly a gift and gifts are not deserved or earned, but are simply
given and received.  and of course, there's enormous gratitude in the
receiving.  and then, there is that wonderful confusion, that's kind of
spellbinding in the way it makes me pause to notice--- the releasing of my
connection to familiar pain, on so many levels, so familiar that the pain
has become part of what i knew about myself, a big part of how i treat
myself, part of how i go about living my life and how i see myself.  i think
pain somehow became part of  my identity or projection of myself, like the
limp did since the '70s.  and suddenly, i realize the familiar pain and limp
isn't there anymore (or most of it, anyway) and so i recognize i have to
regroup and see myself differently.  it's a kind of magical thing, magical
in that change can be so sudden and suddenly so good.  i guess i'm not
making much sense, cuz i've just been involved moreso in feeling it and
enjoying it's deliciousness, than thinking about it.  i'm just now becoming
aware and thinking about some of the interesting facets to pain and absence
of pain, hidden things and the shadow ways it touched me.

doctor said that my discs are still and will be still ruptured, despite the
absence of pain.  that the inflammation has directly been reduced and that
helps make it feel so much better.  he said my discs can or might get worse
and require surgery, if i'm not careful and get too carried away with
feeling good.  told me to be very gentle with my spine, even if i might feel
like i could conquer anything i might have been afraid to try before.  in
other words, don't push my luck, because it isn't a cure, just relief.  so,
i'll just enjoy this for as long as i'm permitted to, and try not to allow
denial creep in and mess things up for me with forgetfulness.<smile>

kate
d'huit - 10 Mar 2005 01:12 GMT
> this is great to hear Kate, I am so happy for you. Hope the next ones do
> the trick for the coughing sneezing stuff. I really am so happy for you.
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> Squirrely Jo

thank you, sj.  but, y'knowwww . . . i'm thinkin' you deserve the best, too,
sweetness.

kate

>> last thursday was the last of the series of 3 L5-S1 epidurals for me.
>> i'm still walking, 99% of the time, without a limp (barametric changes
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>> kate
Caroline Marold - 09 Mar 2005 23:09 GMT
Save the migraine, all sounds really good Kate. Good to
hear. :)
Duckie

> last thursday was the last of the series of 3 L5-S1 epidurals for me.  i'm
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> kate

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d'huit - 10 Mar 2005 02:04 GMT
> Save the migraine, all sounds really good Kate. Good to hear. :)
> Duckie

yeaaahhhhhh.  migraine all done for now, too.  i think i managed to meditate
my way out of having to go through the entire process.LOL  i'll take that,
too.<g>  thanks, duckie.

kate

>> last thursday was the last of the series of 3 L5-S1 epidurals for me.
>> i'm still walking, 99% of the time, without a limp (barametric changes
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>> kate
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 10 Mar 2005 02:41 GMT
{{{{{{{Kate}}}}}}}

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> last thursday was the last of the series of 3 L5-S1 epidurals for me.  i'm
> still walking, 99% of the time, without a limp (barametric changes
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> kate
d'huit - 13 Mar 2005 06:13 GMT
> {{{{{{{Kate}}}}}}}
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> DeeTee

it's always better when a hug goes both ways (((((((((deetee)))))))  there!
that feels better.  doesn't it to you?

kate <smiling>

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>> kate
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 13 Mar 2005 17:08 GMT
Oh, yes!

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Diane - 13 Mar 2005 13:13 GMT
ah, kate, it's such a pleasure to read your post. remember a few short
weeks ago you didn't want this/were afraid of it and now you're
yearning for more!

so glad it worked,

hugs, diane
 
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