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firechief - 08 Mar 2005 23:26 GMT
         FOOD FACTOR

  Ginger Isn't Just For Ale

 University of Miami scientists have found a dietary
supplement made of ginger extract offered as much
relief for OA pain as conventional painkillers.

 This is old news to practitioners of Chinese
medicine who have been uing the root for over
2,000 years.
Nann Bell - 09 Mar 2005 14:36 GMT
A friend of ours at the seminary began having trouble with her joints of the
OA nature.  She made several dietary changes that helped some, but the
biggest difference came from green tea with ginger.  (She shared our small
kitchen, so I learned a fair amount about this.)  She'd slice ginger into
water, boil the water for 15 minutes or so, then use the water to make her
morning tea.  When she went traveling and couldn't have this everry morning,
the pains returned.  Just one person's story.....

I need to get more back into our diet.  Somehow I've been cooking lots of
stuff w/o ginger of late.  time to go look for some soups with ginger.

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>           FOOD FACTOR
>
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>  medicine who have been uing the root for over
>  2,000 years.
d'huit - 09 Mar 2005 18:12 GMT
>A friend of ours at the seminary began having trouble with her joints of
>the
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> I need to get more back into our diet.  Somehow I've been cooking lots of
> stuff w/o ginger of late.  time to go look for some soups with ginger.

yes.  it does help to drink it as a tea and to cook with it.  i make that
ibruprophen goo (the pink stuff melinda and i kid about<smile>) with ginger
oil because it has anti-inflamatory properties (so does arnica oil in that
application).  fresh ginger steeped as a tea is also very helpful for nausea
and helped my friend get through her chemo.

kate

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> Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare
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>>  medicine who have been uing the root for over
>>  2,000 years.
Jo Firey - 09 Mar 2005 18:45 GMT
Anyone know.  Does the pickled ginger that comes with sushi have the same
properties as other forms of ginger?  I love that stuff.

Jo

>>A friend of ours at the seminary began having trouble with her joints of
>>the
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>>>  medicine who have been uing the root for over
>>>  2,000 years.
d'huit - 10 Mar 2005 23:45 GMT
> Anyone know.  Does the pickled ginger that comes with sushi have the same
> properties as other forms of ginger?  I love that stuff.
>
> Jo

if that's what you are fond of, go for the pickled ginger, girlfriend!  i
checked it out today with an herbalist friend of mine and it doesn't matter
in what form you take it.  she said 1/2 to 1 teaspoonfull of ginger a day
(in any form, though you need less of the concentrated or powdered forms) is
enough ginger to equal the anti-inflammatory properties of ibruprofen,
without having to worry about or risk the gastro-intestinal hazards of
taking ibruprofen.<smile>

kate

>>>A friend of ours at the seminary began having trouble with her joints of
>>>the
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>>>>  medicine who have been uing the root for over
>>>>  2,000 years.
Nann Bell - 11 Mar 2005 05:32 GMT
> if that's what you are fond of, go for the pickled ginger, girlfriend!  i
> checked it out today with an herbalist friend of mine and it doesn't matter
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> without having to worry about or risk the gastro-intestinal hazards of
> taking ibruprofen.<smile>

follow-up question: Can you take it all at once, or should you spread it out
through the day?

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d'huit - 12 Mar 2005 22:48 GMT
>> if that's what you are fond of, go for the pickled ginger, girlfriend!  i
>> checked it out today with an herbalist friend of mine and it doesn't
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> out
> through the day?

either way, nann.   it doesn't seem to matter.  like with anything, though,
try not to overdo the zealousness.<smile>  1/2 to 1 teaspoonful or 5 grams
is what is recommended for keeping arthritis inflammation down.

denmark did a study about it awhile back.  i think, if i remember correctly,
they had RA, OA and either fibro or some kind of muscular pain patients on
it for around 2 years.  i mean, i think the study went on for 2 years or so
and about 70% or more (i can't remember exactly the length of time or
percentage, so i might be under-guesstimating it) of the study patients got
relief from swelling and pain by using ginger--of course, how much relief
depended on the individual, but at least that many reported some degree of
relief.  i think they used the powdered kind, so the study could be more
precise.  good stuff, ginger.<smile>
kate
Nann Bell - 13 Mar 2005 16:29 GMT
> either way, nann.   it doesn't seem to matter.  like with anything, though,
> try not to overdo the zealousness.<smile>  1/2 to 1 teaspoonful or 5 grams
> is what is recommended for keeping arthritis inflammation down.

heh, I figure I might as well do everything I can - especially as we really
like ginger anyway.  Won't matter much today though as I have chicken
marinating in my jerk sauce, which has a generous amount of ginger, along
with 14 other ingredients.  Good stuff, I look forward to eating it later
today!

Gotta remember to get my ginger each day to help however much it can.  Do ya
suppose this means I can make ginger snaps a major part of my diet?  I doubt
I can convince my docs of that.............

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d'huit - 13 Mar 2005 18:07 GMT
>> either way, nann.   it doesn't seem to matter.  like with anything,
>> though,
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> doubt
> I can convince my docs of that.............

LOL.  funny you should say that.  i  bought a small box of very thin ginger
snaps (as thin as tweels) made in sweden almost a week ago.  it says a
serving is 5.  they are soooo rich and yummy, two are more than enough.LOL
i just happen to like ginger snaps.<smile>

for me, so far, locally, all i've been able to find is 550mg ginger
capsules, which means i'd have to take 9 capsules a day to get to almost 5mg
(4.950 mg).  ugh, that's too many capsules with all the other stuff i take.
soooo, i don't take that many and drink ginger tea and go for gingery foods.
there's got to be an easier way to get 5gms.  makes me wish i like pickled
ginger.

ouuu . . . jerk chicken?  i lubs that stuff!  i bet yours turned out yummy!
care to share your marinade recipe?<smile> alex got me hooked on jerk
chicken when he took me to the bahama breeze for my birthday dinner last
year.  yummo!

kate

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Nann Bell - 14 Mar 2005 15:16 GMT
> ouuu . . . jerk chicken?  i lubs that stuff!  i bet yours turned out yummy!
> care to share your marinade recipe?<smile> alex got me hooked on jerk
> chicken when he took me to the bahama breeze for my birthday dinner last
> year.  yummo!

Ok, here ya go.  This one comes out fairly hot, if you want a milder sauce
use a milder pepper.  I usually marinate the meat at least 24 hours, then
either grill it or cook it indoors (stovetop for pork, oven for chicken). And
I cook down the remaining marinade to use as a sauce for the meat.  (I know
you aren't supposed to, but I heat it enough to kill anything bacteria from
the meat juices.)

With so many ingredients, I usually make at least 2 batches at a time and
freeze some of the sauce.  In fact, recently I've only been using a half
batch of sauce at a time.

Jamaican Jerk Sauce
for 2 1/2 - 3 lbs chicken or pork

6 scallions, green only, thinly sliced
2 large shallots, finely minced
2 large cloves garlic, finely minced
1 T finely minced fresh ginger
1 t seeded, ribbed and finely minced hot fresh chili*
---------------------------------------
1 T ground allspice
1 t freshly ground black pepper
1/4 t cayenne pepper
1 t ground cinnamon
1/2 t ground nutmeg
1 T fresh thyme leaves OR
    1 t dried thyme
1 t coarse salt
1 T dark brown sugar
---------------------------------------
1/2 C fresh orange juice
1/2 C rice wine vinegar
1/4 C red wine vinegar
1/4 C soy sauce
1/4 C olive oil

*preferably Scotch Bonnet or Habañero Chili.  If not available, substitute
another fresh chili.  (I have used a dried pepper, but it¹s better with
fresh)

In a bowl combine the first group of ingredients.  Reserve.

In another bowl combine the second group of ingredients.  Mix thoroughly.  
Whisk in orange juice, vinegars and soy sauce.  Slowly drizzle in oil,
whisking constantly.  Add to reserved scallion mixture.  Stir to mix.  Let
rest at least an hour.

Sauce will keep a few weeks in the refrigerator and for several months if
frozen.

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d'huit - 14 Mar 2005 17:31 GMT
>> ouuu . . . jerk chicken?  i lubs that stuff!  i bet yours turned out
>> yummy!
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> Sauce will keep a few weeks in the refrigerator and for several months if
> frozen.

w0w.  this sounds yumm0!  i can't wait to share this with my son!  thank
you, nann!

kate

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Nann Bell - 15 Mar 2005 01:11 GMT
Oops, one mistake.

> 1/2 C rice wine vinegar
should read
1/2 C rice vinegar (drop the word wine in that line)

I noticed that when I made this recent batch, but hadn't changed the computer
record yet.

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Jo Firey - 11 Mar 2005 06:35 GMT
>> Anyone know.  Does the pickled ginger that comes with sushi have the same
>> properties as other forms of ginger?  I love that stuff.
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>
> kate

Thanks for finding that out for me!  I'll have to start stocking the stuff
instead of just eating it with sushi.  It has to provide more ginger than
just boiling a piece of the root in water for tea.

Jo
d'huit - 12 Mar 2005 22:56 GMT
>>> Anyone know.  Does the pickled ginger that comes with sushi have the
>>> same properties as other forms of ginger?  I love that stuff.
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>
> Jo

you're welcome, jo.  if you are going to be eating pickled ginger for the
long haul, try not to burn yourself out on liking it.<smile>  tease yourself
with it.LOL  seriously, as i told nann, 1/2 to  one teaspoonful a day or
around 5 grams daily is what the danes determined works for arthritic
inflammation and pain caused by inflammation.  i remember there were no ill
effects reported in the danish study.  now, i wish i kept a copy of it.  bet
somebody who is a wizard at searching the web can come up with it, though.

kate
 
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