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Stopping Enbrel temporarily

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Bob - 08 Mar 2005 20:44 GMT
Hi all.  I came down with a nasty respiratory infection over the last
couple of days.  Called my rheumy doc and he said to stop the Enbrel
injections immediatly until it clears up.  He said to not stop the MTX
injections though. He scared me when he said, "We don't want that to turn
into pneumonia so stop the Enbrel."

Since on Enbrel it seems I have been fatigued and kind of cold all the
time. Could that be true or is just my imagination?  
DiWitt - 08 Mar 2005 21:07 GMT
I had a bad cold which turned to pneumonia in only 2 days in January. I'm
still trying to get the resulting sinus infection cleared up. I'm on my 4th
and 5th antibiotic. Have bronchitis again as well. No Enbrel since early
January. Not fun.
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> Hi all.  I came down with a nasty respiratory infection over the last
> couple of days.  Called my rheumy doc and he said to stop the Enbrel
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> Since on Enbrel it seems I have been fatigued and kind of cold all the
> time. Could that be true or is just my imagination?
Bob - 09 Mar 2005 03:13 GMT
> I had a bad cold which turned to pneumonia in only 2 days in January.
> I'm still trying to get the resulting sinus infection cleared up. I'm
> on my 4th and 5th antibiotic. Have bronchitis again as well. No Enbrel
> since early January. Not fun.

That is really scary.  I am getting kind of nervous about Enbrel.
Especially since my doc said to get off of it so I would not get pneumonia.  
I think maybe the MTX was doing good enough for me.  I see him in a couple
of weeks again and we are going to have a heart to heart.
Harvey R. Stone - 09 Mar 2005 14:08 GMT
>> I had a bad cold which turned to pneumonia in only 2 days in January.
>> I'm still trying to get the resulting sinus infection cleared up. I'm
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> I think maybe the MTX was doing good enough for me.  I see him in a couple
> of weeks again and we are going to have a heart to heart.

Hi,   I can only tell you my experience with flu,  walking pneumonia and
Enbrel.   I took one two many Enbrel shots after I had the flu and recovered
from that almost and it went into serious lung problems.  I am still not a
hundred percent from all that and I am going to take an Enbrel shot today
which means that it has been two weeks and two days since the last shot.
The good thing about ENBREL for me is that it catches up quick.  I hope it
works out better for you than it did for me.  I did not handle this too
well.  I should of taken one shot less and started the anti-biotic
medicines, shots sooner.   We live and learn.
Harv
Jayne - 08 Mar 2005 21:15 GMT
> Hi all.  I came down with a nasty respiratory infection over the last
> couple of days.  Called my rheumy doc and he said to stop the Enbrel
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Since on Enbrel it seems I have been fatigued and kind of cold all the
> time. Could that be true or is just my imagination?

Hope you're feeling better soon - seems that these infections are rife at
the moment. Roll on spring!

Just jumping in to ask about stopping Enbrel.  I have had to stop mine,
prior to surgery, and I was wondering about others' experiences.  How long
does it take for any flaring to kick in?  They want me to stop two weeks
before, and for a minimum of two weeks after surgery.

Jayne
Thumper - 08 Mar 2005 23:32 GMT
>> Hi all.  I came down with a nasty respiratory infection over the last
>> couple of days.  Called my rheumy doc and he said to stop the Enbrel
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Jayne

When I was taking it I stopped for 2 weeks when I had the flu and my
arthritis felt great.  I think my body was too busy fighting the flu
to bother with my joints.  I started up again and didn't flare at all.
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Jayne - 09 Mar 2005 20:35 GMT
> When I was taking it I stopped for 2 weeks when I had the flu and my
> arthritis felt great.  I think my body was too busy fighting the flu
> to bother with my joints.  I started up again and didn't flare at all.
> Thumper
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Thanks for the reply Thumper.  I hope I don't flare, as I can't imagine its
much fun wrestling with crutches with sore hands and shoulders, but I have
noticed that I feel extremely fatigued this week.  Fingers crossed!

Jayne
Gwen Love - 09 Mar 2005 21:42 GMT
Jayne, when is your surgery?
Gwen

> > When I was taking it I stopped for 2 weeks when I had the flu and my
> > arthritis felt great.  I think my body was too busy fighting the flu
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>
> Jayne
Jayne - 10 Mar 2005 22:18 GMT
> Jayne, when is your surgery?
> Gwen

Its on Monday coming Gwen (if you can cross anything for me that would be
nice!  I am a bit nervous as its the first proper grown up surgery I've
had!)

Jayne
Gwen Love - 10 Mar 2005 22:50 GMT
Jayne, you know the prayer group on the NG is powerful and we will be
praying for you.  Don't worry; all will go well.  Are you having a TKR?
Gwen

> > Jayne, when is your surgery?
> > Gwen
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>
> Jayne
Jayne - 11 Mar 2005 22:06 GMT
> Jayne, you know the prayer group on the NG is powerful and we will be
> praying for you.  Don't worry; all will go well.  Are you having a TKR?
> Gwen

Thank you Gwen - and yes, its a left knee TKR.  When I'm recovered from
that, I'm going on the list for the right knee, so lots to look forward to
this year!

Jayne
Nann Bell - 12 Mar 2005 02:45 GMT
> Thank you Gwen - and yes, its a left knee TKR.  When I'm recovered from
> that, I'm going on the list for the right knee, so lots to look forward to
> this year!
>
> Jayne

You are on the prayer list, Jayne.

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Jayne - 12 Mar 2005 19:24 GMT
>> Thank you Gwen - and yes, its a left knee TKR.  When I'm recovered from
>> that, I'm going on the list for the right knee, so lots to look forward
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>
> You are on the prayer list, Jayne.

Thank you Nann - its a comfort when people are thinking of you.

Jayne
d'huit - 15 Mar 2005 01:17 GMT
>>> Thank you Gwen - and yes, its a left knee TKR.  When I'm recovered from
>>> that, I'm going on the list for the right knee, so lots to look forward
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>
> Jayne

you're on my prayer list too, jayne.  what time will your surgery be?

kate
Jayne - 17 Mar 2005 21:11 GMT
>> Thank you Nann - its a comfort when people are thinking of you.
>>
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>
> kate

LOL kate, it was at 12 midday on Monday, and I can't believe it, but I'm
home now, walking with two sticks.  It wasn't much fun for a couple of days,
but I am very glad to be home, even though the physio is really hard.

Jayne
Caroline Marold - 09 Mar 2005 22:50 GMT
Did that in nov. before my TKR with my Remicade and
Arava. By time of surgery I was one hurting, stiff,
slow moving puppy. Good news was that surgery came with
pain meds so I lived. :) Kept having stuff I needed
antibiotics for so keep having to stop and start the
Arava and it was a long while before I got my Remicade
back.
Tell your doctor you may need pain meds prior to
surgery as your medication clears your body.
And good luck
Duckie

> Hope you're feeling better soon - seems that these infections are rife at
> the moment. Roll on spring!
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>
> Jayne

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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 08 Mar 2005 22:12 GMT
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> Hi all.  I came down with a nasty respiratory infection over the last
> couple of days.  Called my rheumy doc and he said to stop the Enbrel
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Since on Enbrel it seems I have been fatigued and kind of cold all the
> time. Could that be true or is just my imagination?
Bruce - 09 Mar 2005 00:20 GMT
It's interesting, they are now trying the biologics for psoriasis as well.
Many patients seem to be having varying side effects.  Some docs are
beginning to question their overall efficacy and safety.  I too might ? the
safety.  They drug companies say it's just like insulin.  I don't really buy
that.  Same family, proven track record and efficacy no way.  I personally
think more studies are needed.
Bruce

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> No answers, just here to hold your hand.
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>> Since on Enbrel it seems I have been fatigued and kind of cold all the
>> time. Could that be true or is just my imagination?
Bob - 10 Mar 2005 14:58 GMT
Thanks everyone.  I am off to see my main doc in an hour.  Will keep you
posted.  Four days after skipping my last scheduled Enbrel injection and
just barely starting to feel better.  I actually lost my voice at one point
and pretty much stayed in bed all day yesterday.  I think my immune system
got whalloped by the Enbrel.  I am honestly kind of afraid to start it back
up as long as the MTX does a reasonable job of controlling my RA.
Nann Bell - 10 Mar 2005 17:15 GMT
> Thanks everyone.  I am off to see my main doc in an hour.  Will keep you
> posted.  Four days after skipping my last scheduled Enbrel injection and
> just barely starting to feel better.  I actually lost my voice at one point
> and pretty much stayed in bed all day yesterday.

That might just be from the virus normally.  For almost a decade now I've
lost my voice at some point with every respiratory bug I've gotten.  
Sometimes I don't feel that bad, but lose my voice as I'm recovering.  It was
a big problem when I worked a job that involoved lots and lots of talking.

I don't know what the crud is that's going around our area, but folks are
relapsing left and right.  They think they're over it and it comes back and
wallops them.  Maybe that's what's going on with you.  It's miserablet folks
do recover eventually.

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RoseB - 11 Mar 2005 00:59 GMT
It could also be a flare of RA causing the voice loss. Remember we can
geat RA in our larynx just as we get it in our joints. My voice is
often terrible. I have been scoped twice and all they say is my vocal
chords are inflamed due to RA and acid reflux.

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Cooly - 11 Mar 2005 02:24 GMT
> That might just be from the virus normally.  For almost a decade now I've
> lost my voice at some point with every respiratory bug I've gotten.  
> Sometimes I don't feel that bad, but lose my voice as I'm recovering.  It was
> a big problem when I worked a job that involoved lots and lots of talking.

Nann, my wife gets a lot of respiratory bugs but she never loses her
voice.  Could you tell me what you are doing differently which might
cause this loss of voice. <G>
Cooly
Nann Bell - 11 Mar 2005 05:32 GMT
> Nann, my wife gets a lot of respiratory bugs but she never loses her
> voice.  Could you tell me what you are doing differently which might
> cause this loss of voice. <G>

LOL  you devil.
and it rarely happened when I was younger... and healthier... and single....
<g>

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