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Hackers at ArthritisInsight again!

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Pic - 06 Mar 2005 01:29 GMT
Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has
been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails
with virus' attached from the AI site. I know that some of you go to the
other boards too....just wanted everyone to be aware of what was going
on....and to watch that e-mail carefully, even if it is from someone you
know there, as long as it says from the AI site...delete it immediately,
just in case it can get through your system.
((((HUGS))))  Pic
Harvey R. Stone - 06 Mar 2005 03:23 GMT
> Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has
> been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> just in case it can get through your system.
> ((((HUGS))))  Pic

Hard to say.   I know that for awhile I was getting 3-5/day in my email
which Norton took care of and it had nothing to do with the AI site.
Harv
Caroline Marold - 06 Mar 2005 17:01 GMT
Thanks Pic. That site needs to be moved to a competent
server host.
Duckie

> Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has
> been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> just in case it can get through your system.
> ((((HUGS))))  Pic

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Mike-UK - 06 Mar 2005 22:28 GMT
> Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has
> been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> just in case it can get through your system.
> ((((HUGS))))  Pic

Sorry to hear that this has happened, but...

STOP CALLING CRACKERS HACKERS please!

As recently covered...

A HACKER is a nice person who gives themselves eyestrain
making tommorrow's software better for you and for me.

A CRACKER is a nasty little **** who CRACKS systems, like a
SAFECRACKER cracks safes.

See? Simple ain't it?

The "thats what it said in the report/article" excuse
is invalid as it is WRONG!

Consider this for a mo...

If certain wheelchair users were noticed to commit crimes
using their wheelchairs, does that mean all wheelchair users
are criminals? Should we use the term "I've been rollered!" ?

Or maybe just call criminals criminals?

Hooo-boy! Am I hacked off or what!?!  ;\

Oh, for all you Windows fans...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/04/trojan_spam_study/

::: Four-fifths of spam now emanates from computers
contaminated with Trojan horse infections, according to a
study by network management firm Sandvine out this week.
Trojans and worms with backdoor components such as Migmaf
and SoBig have turned infected Windows PCs into drones in
vast networks of compromised zombie PCs.  :::

Notice that words again, "Windows".

    www.FreeBSD.org

...might be worth a peek. Good enough for Macs? ;)

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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 07 Mar 2005 00:21 GMT
Mike - take a deep breath, my friend.  Arthritis Insight has been cracked.
Shhhhhhhh, it'll be okay.  Eventually we will learn the terminology.  Wanna
jawbreaker or a Reese's peanut butter cup?

DeeTee
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>> Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has
>> been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails
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>
> ...might be worth a peek. Good enough for Macs? ;)
Kimmy - 07 Mar 2005 02:28 GMT
I'll take a jawbreaker if you've got an extra one DeeTee :)

I'd like to crack the cracker over the head and then hack them in to
itty-bitty little pieces...will that work Mike? ;)

I was afraid AI would get hit again. Sucks.

Kimmy
Harvey R. Stone - 07 Mar 2005 14:14 GMT
> I'll take a jawbreaker if you've got an extra one DeeTee :)
>
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>
> Kimmy

But you will have it backed up this time,  huh.
Harv
Kimmy - 07 Mar 2005 14:42 GMT
I don't know if the new owner at AI had the boards backed up - but
we're certainly backing up at the new site. Nice to know that if
something bad happens we won't lose much information.

Kimmy
Mike-UK - 08 Mar 2005 12:19 GMT
"Butter cup"?!?!?! You CANNOT BE SERIOUS! AARRGGHH!

    ;)

> Mike - take a deep breath, my friend.  Arthritis Insight has been cracked.
> Shhhhhhhh, it'll be okay.  Eventually we will learn the terminology.  Wanna
> jawbreaker or a Reese's peanut butter cup?

> >> Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has
> >> been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> >
> > Hooo-boy! Am I hacked off or what!?!  ;\

SPOT THE PUN! (Yup, that one there!)

> > Oh, for all you Windows fans...
> >
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> >
> > ...might be worth a peek. Good enough for Macs? ;)

SPOT the Mac OS X = FreeBSD in disguise reference!

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Joan Carter - 08 Mar 2005 16:48 GMT
>"Butter cup"?!?!?! You CANNOT BE SERIOUS! AARRGGHH!

No, no, dear. Peanut butter in a chocolate wrapping sort of thing. They are
soooooo good. <drool>
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Mike-UK - 09 Mar 2005 00:16 GMT
> >"Butter cup"?!?!?! You CANNOT BE SERIOUS! AARRGGHH!
>
> No, no, dear. Peanut butter in a chocolate wrapping sort of thing. They are
> soooooo good. <drool>

I'd just been watching that Futurama episode where Fry gets
sent to a robot asylum and gets put in with the exploding
robot.  "Hello." "Whaaa...!" Kaboom!  ;)

P.S. Beep.

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Pic - 11 Mar 2005 15:15 GMT
Hackers...Crackers...what the heck makes the difference....I was just trying
to let everyone know.....didn't know I had to be perfect to post here
without offending someone....so, won't post again, so no
problem.............see ya!

> "Butter cup"?!?!?! You CANNOT BE SERIOUS! AARRGGHH!
>
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>
> SPOT the Mac OS X = FreeBSD in disguise reference!
Alex Barna - 11 Mar 2005 16:24 GMT
Hi Pic,

> Hackers...Crackers...what the heck makes the difference....I
> was just trying to let everyone know.....didn't know I had to
> be perfect to post here without offending someone....so, won't
> post again, so no problem.............see ya!

Don't let UK Mike stop you from posting. He is the high priest of
the church of Linux & part of the fun of posting computer stuff
here is reading his anti M$ rants.

He obviously never saw the movie Hackers Starring: Angelina
Jolie, which is a story about A neophyte "hacker", that becomes
the target of the FBI after he unknowingly taps into a high-tech
embezzling scheme which could cause a horrific environmental
disaster in this suspenseful drama.

http://www.mgmua.com/Fhackers/

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Mike-UK - 12 Mar 2005 11:10 GMT
> Hi Pic,
>
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> the church of Linux & part of the fun of posting computer stuff
> here is reading his anti M$ rants.

Wow! Have I reached THOSE dizzying heights already!?! ;\

Glad to see SOMEone is enjoying the fun BTW. :)

Just to be pedantic for a moment, I'm not exactly anti-M$,
rather I'm "hacked off" about how they do what they do, and
what they do while they're claiming to do something else.
What I'm actually "anti" is the hypocracy of the company,
that goes WAY beyond "innovative business practices" and
breaches the trust of it's user-base in ways most people
either do not have the time to research, or the skills to
get involved in.

That and how crap their products are. (Damn! Dunnit again! ;)

> He obviously never saw the movie Hackers Starring: Angelina
> Jolie, which is a story about A neophyte "hacker", that becomes
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>
> http://www.mgmua.com/Fhackers/

= error 404

Did you mean...

http://www.mgm.com/title_title.do?title_star=HACKERS

...perchance?

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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Mar 2005 15:41 GMT
> > Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has

< <snipped> >>

> STOP CALLING CRACKERS HACKERS please!
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> A CRACKER is a nasty little **** who CRACKS systems, like a
> SAFECRACKER cracks safes.

< <snipped> >

> Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :)

Hi Mike,

Maybe I can help here.  In the States, they are "all" called Hackers.
Quite simply referring to someone as a Cracker will get the same
response (from some) as referring to people using the "N" word.

I think we all know that you are a "good" hacker, and the ones at AI
are "bad" hackers (in the American idiom).  I know it irritates you (as
it should, since they slime your good name), but it's something that
Americans have been saying since computers became popular (and movies
like Sneakers don'thelp).

I have even heard self-proclaimed crackers (as you define it) calling
themselves hackers.  I actually had heard them called anything else
until you wrote about (several months back now).

Smokie Darling (Annie)
spodosaurus - 12 Mar 2005 03:17 GMT
>>>Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI
>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Smokie Darling (Annie)

No, there's a big difference. A hacker is anyone who develops computer
programs by 'hacking' their way through the tangles of thousands of
lines of code. A cracker is someone that mostly uses what other people
have developed to go and vandalise computers via the Internet. Both of
these terms originated in America, so it's simply that most Americans
repeat the words that the media spews out at them without ever bothering
to educate themselves as to the correctness of their use (for example,
the media referring to anti inflmatory medicine as painkillers). Just
because 'everybody does it' does not make it correct or right, so I
fully support Mike's efforts to try and reduce one aspect of the
collective ignorance despite not being either a hacker or a cracker
myself. Hackers are the reason why we have computer software, crackers
are why we have damage to websites like Arthritis Insight (that, and the
fact that the company who hosts arthritis insight cannot be bothered to
put a lock on their servers...would you open a shop at a mall if they
didn't lock the doors at night???).

cheers,

Ari

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Mike-UK - 12 Mar 2005 11:11 GMT
> > Hi Mike,
> >
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> put a lock on their servers...would you open a shop at a mall if they
> didn't lock the doors at night???).

Er, whut he said...   ;\

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