Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / March 2005
Hackers at ArthritisInsight again!
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Pic - 06 Mar 2005 01:29 GMT Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails with virus' attached from the AI site. I know that some of you go to the other boards too....just wanted everyone to be aware of what was going on....and to watch that e-mail carefully, even if it is from someone you know there, as long as it says from the AI site...delete it immediately, just in case it can get through your system. ((((HUGS)))) Pic
Harvey R. Stone - 06 Mar 2005 03:23 GMT > Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has > been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > just in case it can get through your system. > ((((HUGS)))) Pic Hard to say. I know that for awhile I was getting 3-5/day in my email which Norton took care of and it had nothing to do with the AI site. Harv
Caroline Marold - 06 Mar 2005 17:01 GMT Thanks Pic. That site needs to be moved to a competent server host. Duckie
> Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has > been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > just in case it can get through your system. > ((((HUGS)))) Pic
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Mike-UK - 06 Mar 2005 22:28 GMT > Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has > been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > just in case it can get through your system. > ((((HUGS)))) Pic Sorry to hear that this has happened, but...
STOP CALLING CRACKERS HACKERS please!
As recently covered...
A HACKER is a nice person who gives themselves eyestrain making tommorrow's software better for you and for me.
A CRACKER is a nasty little **** who CRACKS systems, like a SAFECRACKER cracks safes.
See? Simple ain't it?
The "thats what it said in the report/article" excuse is invalid as it is WRONG!
Consider this for a mo...
If certain wheelchair users were noticed to commit crimes using their wheelchairs, does that mean all wheelchair users are criminals? Should we use the term "I've been rollered!" ?
Or maybe just call criminals criminals?
Hooo-boy! Am I hacked off or what!?! ;\
Oh, for all you Windows fans...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/04/trojan_spam_study/
::: Four-fifths of spam now emanates from computers contaminated with Trojan horse infections, according to a study by network management firm Sandvine out this week. Trojans and worms with backdoor components such as Migmaf and SoBig have turned infected Windows PCs into drones in vast networks of compromised zombie PCs. :::
Notice that words again, "Windows".
www.FreeBSD.org
...might be worth a peek. Good enough for Macs? ;)
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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 07 Mar 2005 00:21 GMT Mike - take a deep breath, my friend. Arthritis Insight has been cracked. Shhhhhhhh, it'll be okay. Eventually we will learn the terminology. Wanna jawbreaker or a Reese's peanut butter cup?
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>> Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has >> been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > ...might be worth a peek. Good enough for Macs? ;) Kimmy - 07 Mar 2005 02:28 GMT I'll take a jawbreaker if you've got an extra one DeeTee :)
I'd like to crack the cracker over the head and then hack them in to itty-bitty little pieces...will that work Mike? ;)
I was afraid AI would get hit again. Sucks.
Kimmy
Harvey R. Stone - 07 Mar 2005 14:14 GMT > I'll take a jawbreaker if you've got an extra one DeeTee :) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Kimmy But you will have it backed up this time, huh. Harv
Kimmy - 07 Mar 2005 14:42 GMT I don't know if the new owner at AI had the boards backed up - but we're certainly backing up at the new site. Nice to know that if something bad happens we won't lose much information.
Kimmy
Mike-UK - 08 Mar 2005 12:19 GMT "Butter cup"?!?!?! You CANNOT BE SERIOUS! AARRGGHH!
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> Mike - take a deep breath, my friend. Arthritis Insight has been cracked. > Shhhhhhhh, it'll be okay. Eventually we will learn the terminology. Wanna > jawbreaker or a Reese's peanut butter cup?
> >> Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has > >> been hacked again, the boards are down, and people are receiving e-mails [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > > Hooo-boy! Am I hacked off or what!?! ;\ SPOT THE PUN! (Yup, that one there!)
> > Oh, for all you Windows fans... > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > > > ...might be worth a peek. Good enough for Macs? ;) SPOT the Mac OS X = FreeBSD in disguise reference!
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Joan Carter - 08 Mar 2005 16:48 GMT >"Butter cup"?!?!?! You CANNOT BE SERIOUS! AARRGGHH! No, no, dear. Peanut butter in a chocolate wrapping sort of thing. They are soooooo good. <drool> --- Joan
Mike-UK - 09 Mar 2005 00:16 GMT > >"Butter cup"?!?!?! You CANNOT BE SERIOUS! AARRGGHH! > > No, no, dear. Peanut butter in a chocolate wrapping sort of thing. They are > soooooo good. <drool> I'd just been watching that Futurama episode where Fry gets sent to a robot asylum and gets put in with the exploding robot. "Hello." "Whaaa...!" Kaboom! ;)
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Pic - 11 Mar 2005 15:15 GMT Hackers...Crackers...what the heck makes the difference....I was just trying to let everyone know.....didn't know I had to be perfect to post here without offending someone....so, won't post again, so no problem.............see ya!
> "Butter cup"?!?!?! You CANNOT BE SERIOUS! AARRGGHH! > [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > > SPOT the Mac OS X = FreeBSD in disguise reference! Alex Barna - 11 Mar 2005 16:24 GMT Hi Pic,
> Hackers...Crackers...what the heck makes the difference....I > was just trying to let everyone know.....didn't know I had to > be perfect to post here without offending someone....so, won't > post again, so no problem.............see ya! Don't let UK Mike stop you from posting. He is the high priest of the church of Linux & part of the fun of posting computer stuff here is reading his anti M$ rants.
He obviously never saw the movie Hackers Starring: Angelina Jolie, which is a story about A neophyte "hacker", that becomes the target of the FBI after he unknowingly taps into a high-tech embezzling scheme which could cause a horrific environmental disaster in this suspenseful drama.
http://www.mgmua.com/Fhackers/
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Mike-UK - 12 Mar 2005 11:10 GMT > Hi Pic, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the church of Linux & part of the fun of posting computer stuff > here is reading his anti M$ rants. Wow! Have I reached THOSE dizzying heights already!?! ;\
Glad to see SOMEone is enjoying the fun BTW. :)
Just to be pedantic for a moment, I'm not exactly anti-M$, rather I'm "hacked off" about how they do what they do, and what they do while they're claiming to do something else. What I'm actually "anti" is the hypocracy of the company, that goes WAY beyond "innovative business practices" and breaches the trust of it's user-base in ways most people either do not have the time to research, or the skills to get involved in.
That and how crap their products are. (Damn! Dunnit again! ;)
> He obviously never saw the movie Hackers Starring: Angelina > Jolie, which is a story about A neophyte "hacker", that becomes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.mgmua.com/Fhackers/ = error 404
Did you mean...
http://www.mgm.com/title_title.do?title_star=HACKERS
...perchance?
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Mar 2005 15:41 GMT > > Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI sight has < <snipped> >>
> STOP CALLING CRACKERS HACKERS please! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > A CRACKER is a nasty little **** who CRACKS systems, like a > SAFECRACKER cracks safes. < <snipped> >
> Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) Hi Mike,
Maybe I can help here. In the States, they are "all" called Hackers. Quite simply referring to someone as a Cracker will get the same response (from some) as referring to people using the "N" word.
I think we all know that you are a "good" hacker, and the ones at AI are "bad" hackers (in the American idiom). I know it irritates you (as it should, since they slime your good name), but it's something that Americans have been saying since computers became popular (and movies like Sneakers don'thelp).
I have even heard self-proclaimed crackers (as you define it) calling themselves hackers. I actually had heard them called anything else until you wrote about (several months back now).
Smokie Darling (Annie)
spodosaurus - 12 Mar 2005 03:17 GMT >>>Hi everyone.....just received notice on Rheumorweb that the AI > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Smokie Darling (Annie) No, there's a big difference. A hacker is anyone who develops computer programs by 'hacking' their way through the tangles of thousands of lines of code. A cracker is someone that mostly uses what other people have developed to go and vandalise computers via the Internet. Both of these terms originated in America, so it's simply that most Americans repeat the words that the media spews out at them without ever bothering to educate themselves as to the correctness of their use (for example, the media referring to anti inflmatory medicine as painkillers). Just because 'everybody does it' does not make it correct or right, so I fully support Mike's efforts to try and reduce one aspect of the collective ignorance despite not being either a hacker or a cracker myself. Hackers are the reason why we have computer software, crackers are why we have damage to websites like Arthritis Insight (that, and the fact that the company who hosts arthritis insight cannot be bothered to put a lock on their servers...would you open a shop at a mall if they didn't lock the doors at night???).
cheers,
Ari
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Mike-UK - 12 Mar 2005 11:11 GMT > > Hi Mike, > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > put a lock on their servers...would you open a shop at a mall if they > didn't lock the doors at night???). Er, whut he said... ;\
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