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Bruce - 04 Mar 2005 02:38 GMT
Saw my Derm on Wed.  The Lithium is really preventing my psoriasis from
clearing.  I mentioned my RD once mentioned MTX in passing but used
Placqunil instead.  He said MTX would definitely help in treating the
psoriasis.  I see My RD on Monday and will be asking her about it and
getting her to consult with my Derm.
I take so many meds with side effects, what are the big things to be watched
for expected with the MTX.
Bruce

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Joan Carter - 04 Mar 2005 03:33 GMT
>I take so many meds with side effects, what are the big things to be watched
>for expected with the MTX.

As with so many meds, Bruce, it can have everything but the kitchen sink. Big
ones, mouth sores (I take Folic Acid 5 mg. a day and no problems with them,
other people here take others, they will tell you), low platelets and white
count, possible stomach problems if you take the oral form. Oh, and there can be
some breathing problems, you need to watch for a cough. I did have that but
pulmonary function tests were normal. My blood work was off a bit but is stable
and I actually had more blood problems with Arava than MTX. For me, it works,
and after a few months off I went back on it and no side effects. Arava however,
was NOT my drug. As with all of these drugs, what works for one doesn't for
another. Good luck with whatever you and your doc decide upon.

Oh, and I got your email and sent an answer that didn't go. :-( That was a while
ago. It wasn't earth shattering, my answer, that is, so not to worry.
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Nann Bell - 04 Mar 2005 14:36 GMT
> Saw my Derm on Wed.  The Lithium is really preventing my psoriasis from
> clearing.  I mentioned my RD once mentioned MTX in passing but used
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> for expected with the MTX.
> Bruce

I've often heard that plaquenil can worsen psoriasis.  Seems to me that you'd
be better off all around with mtx rather than plaquenil.

I've had little in the way of side effects from mtx.  The biggie has been
increased fatigue for ~24 hours after taking it.  That's gotten much better,
but I still have some of it.  I had to carefully adjust when I took the mtx
so the fatigue and extra sleeping didn't mess up my sleep patterns too much.

I hear the other common side effects at our doses are nausea, hairloss and of
course the dreaded liver effects.  I've been lucky to avoid those, but I'm
sure others will be telling you more about them.

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Nathan Engle - 04 Mar 2005 14:56 GMT
>>I take so many meds with side effects, what are the big things to be watched
>>for expected with the MTX.
>>Bruce

> I've often heard that plaquenil can worsen psoriasis.  Seems to me that you'd
> be better off all around with mtx rather than plaquenil.
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> course the dreaded liver effects.  I've been lucky to avoid those, but I'm
> sure others will be telling you more about them.

The nausea-related side-effects were so pronounced with
me that I eventually just refused to take the stuff any
more.  The pity is that it did seem to be making some
difference, but just not enough for me to put up with
feeling sick 2-3 days of every week.  A lot of things can
be done to buffer or offset the nausea, but only one of
them seemed to work and there are various reasons why
that one isn't in the running.  It's a shame really,
but everything has trade-offs.  At this point my treatment
regimen has regressed to where it was 4 years ago, but
my condition is worse than it was then so honestly I'm
not sure what to do now.

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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 04 Mar 2005 17:19 GMT
The oral MTX made me extremely sick, so my RD put me on injectible.  That
has only one side effect that I can tell and that is being tired the next
day (although sometimes it waits an extra day before I get the exhaustion).
Maybe you should try the injectible kind.

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>>>I take so many meds with side effects, what are the big things to be
>>>watched for expected with the MTX.
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> my condition is worse than it was then so honestly I'm
> not sure what to do now.
Joan Carter - 04 Mar 2005 17:53 GMT
>The nausea-related side-effects were so pronounced with
>me that I eventually just refused to take the stuff any
>more.  

Was that with the oral dose? Have you tried the injectable?
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Benjamin M. Magno - 04 Mar 2005 23:30 GMT
My dose is at 15mg/week to start for RA(still up in the air on the
final diagnosis). What I noticed at first was a flu-like body ache and
loss of appetite for about a day after taking my first dose. This was
less and less each week, in fact the second week, it only lasted about
2 hours. I don't have psoriasis but I did notice my winter-dried skin
getting clearer right away. Best of luck, and I hope it treats you
well. BTW, on the fourth week I had no ill effects from the MTX.
 
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