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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / March 2005Where do you draw the line?
It seems that more and more doctors offices are now requiring you to have both your insurance cards and your drivers license with you for them to copy each and every time you have a visit. Recently on a visit, another patient asked why they now needed to copy a persons drivers license along with the insurance cards and they were told that it was a state mandate and helped ID the person to prevent insurance fraud. Hmmmmm! I worry about this type of thing, especially with the growing number of ID theft cases. I guess I can understand checking ID to make sure the person using the insurance card is really who they claim they are, but it seems to me by giving the medical offices and billing offices your address, your insurance cards (which almost always contain your social security number) and then your drivers license which also has your date of birth on it, just opens a person up _more_ to becoming a victim of identity theft. I mean shoot, that paperwork has every piece of information on you a person could want and could be a field day for someone if they decided to use that info in the wrong way, or if it fell into the wrong hands! Have any of you run across this and been told it is a new state mandate? (I know every state is different!) What are your thoughts on it? Am I just a worry wort and over reacting to the possible threat of all of this? Donna G I have not been asked for my drivers license here in Washington. I did notice that my MD's office now asks for the insurance card every time I go to the office (which is a pain when you are there three times in one week). My cardiologist's office only took a copy of it the first time I went. Now when I go all I need is the check for the copay. I do agree with you, Donna. They have all the info they'd need to steal your identity. One can only hope that when they have to throw papers out, they are shredded first. Of course, the other thing is that most identity theft today is being done by hackers getting into computers and stealing hundreds or thousands of identities. It will be interesting to see what is done about the recent Bank of America theft since there were records in their computers belonging to senators and other government officials. Now that its hit their backyard, I'm sure they'll be more inclined to do something about it. Carole > It seems that more and more doctors offices are now requiring you to > have both your insurance cards and your drivers license with you for [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Donna G > I do agree with you, Donna. They have all the info they'd need to steal > your identity. One can only hope that when they have to throw papers [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > officials. Now that its hit their backyard, I'm sure they'll be more > inclined to do something about it. Gotta haul ya up here on this one. You're talking about CRACKERS, not HACKERS. Hackers are people like me, who spend more time than is sometimes healthy working with configs, install routines, program code etc. When someone with knowledge of how things work CRACKS someone else's poota for info/whatever, then they cease to be a productive hacker, and become a criminal, plain and simple. The STANDARD REFERENCE TERM for this kind of CRIMINAL is, as I've mentioned, a CRACKER. P.S. Before the "but they're called hackers in the press" replies flood in, the use of the term hacker when the term cracker should have been used is simply plain wrong and a bad habit of ignorant journo-hacks who know very little about that which they scribble such junk about so often. HACKER = Nice person with strained eye sight working to make poota software better for you and me (Think Linux/FreeBSD) CRACKER = Criminal using knowledge for illegal purposes (Think criminal)  Signature--------------------------- http://tinyurl.com/4872c Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > You're talking about CRACKERS, not HACKERS. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > plain and simple. The STANDARD REFERENCE TERM for this kind > of CRIMINAL is, as I've mentioned, a CRACKER. Hunh, didn't know that one, hadn't ever heard it before. It'd be a problematic term here as in there southern US CRACKER has a wholey different meaning. Still, it's good to learn something new every day. > P.S. Before the "but they're called hackers in the press" > replies flood in, the use of the term hacker when the > term cracker should have been used is simply plain > wrong and a bad habit of ignorant journo-hacks who know > very little about that which they scribble such junk > about so often. heh, we all know that from all the hype and hysteria re: COX-2 "pain-killers"! SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare LOL... My ex husband has some relatives that are CRACKERS! And they don't even own a Poota! In the US...down south....Cracker means something quite comical! Janet R : > I do agree with you, Donna. They have all the info they'd need to steal : > your identity. One can only hope that when they have to throw papers [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] : CRACKER = Criminal using knowledge for illegal purposes : (Think criminal) > LOL... > My ex husband has some relatives that are CRACKERS! And they don't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Janet R Yup, this is one of those words that may take some time to make its way into American use in the way intended by people who don't live here. When I was in the UK on vacation a few years ago, every time I overheard someone either offer or request a cigarette I winced. The word used was not one that is considered acceptable in polite society here.lol Kelly C.;o) >When I was in the UK on vacation a few years ago, every time I overheard >someone either offer or request a cigarette I winced. The word used was not >one that is considered acceptable in polite society here.lol > >Kelly C.;o) So don't you have a fag break then? food from here is probably a giggle for you 'mericans http://www.foodfirst.co.uk/pro09566.htm#start All for now, bemused of England -- Andy >All for now, bemused of England Mind come to think about it, Horatio Nelson's wife name means something completely different here in the UK. Two nations divided by a common language! -- Andy > >All for now, bemused of England > > Mind come to think about it, Horatio Nelson's wife name means > something completely different here in the UK. Oh, don't tell me it was Fanny!ROTFL!! Now I have to go check!......It was!LOL > Two nations divided by a common language! Yup, pants/trousers, crackers/biscuits, poppers/crackers, oh I can't think of them all now. > -- > Andy Andy, I'm falling over laughing. I was visiting the aunts in Ireland one time and they had a bunch of guests. I went to sit down on the sofa and asked my cousin to move her fanny so I could fit next to her. There was complete silence in the room and everyone looked aghast. The aunt I was raised with later told me, while choking with laughter, what that meant. No, I won't tell so don't ask!!! Ann >>All for now, bemused of England > >Mind come to think about it, Horatio Nelson's wife name means >something completely different here in the UK. > >Two nations divided by a common language! I think the word "fanny" has a completely different meaning in the UK. Here we have fanny pack in the UK I think that would be bum pack? Fanny pack might get you thrown out of a few places in the UK! I was talking about my fanny pack for my camera on a photographer website the Brits had a field day with it. I was totally embarrassed. http://english2american.com/dictionary/a.html Visit my website: http://www.mzuschlag.com > I think the word "fanny" has a completely different meaning in the > UK. Here we have fanny pack in the UK I think that would be bum pack? > Fanny pack might get you thrown out of a few places in the UK! > I was talking about my fanny pack for my camera on a photographer > website the Brits had a field day with it. I was totally embarrassed. > http://english2american.com/dictionary/a.html LOL... I've run into that one. I also recall having relatives visit from England, and when they arrived my bil was wearing a souvenir t-shirt from Fanny Bay, BC. The teenaged boys were laughing hysterically and we were wondering why their mother looked so horrified. Janet N. > LOL... I've run into that one. I also recall having relatives visit from > England, and when they arrived my bil was wearing a souvenir t-shirt from > Fanny Bay, BC. The teenaged boys were laughing hysterically and we were > wondering why their mother looked so horrified. > > Janet N. It also works the other way around. When I went to England a few years ago, I was in the Underground with a male friend. The train came into the station, and as the doors opened the voice over the loudspeaker boomed "Mind The Gap". Well, I started laughing and my friend looked at me and asked what was so funny. Since there were children sitting near us, I told him that I'd tell him later. When we got off the train, there was the booming voice again, and again I started laughing. And again he wanted to know what was so funny. I explained to him that in NYC high schools, the word "gap" referred to the female genitalia. (Probably from the commercial of "Fall into the Gap", for some reason the kids picked up on it and the teachers found out that it had become their slang). So I looked at him and said "And I am minding my gap, thank you!" :-)) And we both had a good laugh! Carole :) who still has her "Mind The Gap" tshirt :-) > >When I was in the UK on vacation a few years ago, every time I overheard > >someone either offer or request a cigarette I winced. The word used was not [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > -- > Andy Andy!! How rude! I probably shouldn't be laughing...it'll only encourage you.:o) I loved the food I ate while visiting there. However, I didn't eat anything that contained the words "blood" or "black". I also didn't try the haggis in Scotland. I'm not a big fan for the organ meats. The whole beans-with-breakfast thing I don't understand and could not bring myself to do.:o) I did come home with a severe addiction to salad cream, Toffee Crisp bars, Aero bars and clotted cream. None of these items are readily available at the grocery store here. Luckily, there is a Cost Plus World Market in Eugene and I go there to get my fix when I'm down to see the Dr. Kelly C.;o) > I did come home with a severe addiction to salad cream, Toffee Crisp bars, > Aero bars and clotted cream. None of these items are readily available at > the grocery store here. Luckily, there is a Cost Plus World Market in Eugene > and I go there to get my fix when I'm down to see the Dr. > > Kelly C.;o) Or come up north, Kelly. There is a little store in Snohomish called Piccadilly Circus and they have all the items that you mentioned :) You can check them out at: http://www.piccadillycircuswa.com I'm not sure if they do mail order as they are only a few miles from me, but there are a quite a few places online that have the items you mentioned as well :)) Carole Kelly Cobb wrote: >> When I was in the UK on vacation a few years ago, every time I >> overheard someone either offer or request a cigarette I winced. >> The word used was not one that is considered acceptable in >> polite society here.lol And Andy replied: > So don't you have a fag break then? I was researching Historical Society files for stories about past fires in the city. Page 1 headlines from 1948: DOWNTOWN HOTEL FIRE KILLS ONE - FAG BLAMED ... Accordion: A bagpipe with pleats. > Kelly Cobb wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > ... Accordion: A bagpipe with pleats. The term "fag", used as a derogatory reference, is a shortened version of "faggot". Join the dots... Its all in the context sometimes. Signature--------------------------- http://tinyurl.com/4872c Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) >> I was researching Historical Society files for stories about >> past fires in the city. Page 1 headlines from 1948: >> DOWNTOWN HOTEL FIRE KILLS ONE - FAG BLAMED > The term "fag", used as a derogatory reference, is a > shortened version of "faggot". Join the dots... > Its all in the context sometimes. Yeah, but anyone familiar with Brits and the Irish, etc. usually know that the word "fag" is a reference to a cigarette. :-) Mag > >> I was researching Historical Society files for stories about > >> past fires in the city. Page 1 headlines from 1948: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > that the word "fag" is a reference to a cigarette. :-) > Mag Something you put in your mouth and suck on, that does you no good? There are many levels to what can be hung on a term. How about "You suck!" Wonder where THAT little beauty came from? ;\ Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ www.webtribe.net/~mikeswebstuff/ tinyurl.com/6bf56 Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) "The cigarette does the smoking, you're just the sucker." - one of my favorite quotes. I don't, of course, know who said it. One of my favorite quotes, which I made up one day in the heat of battle with a smoker at work: You have to question the intelligence of someone who knowingly inhales a proven carcinogen. DeeTee ________________________________ DeeTee and Bob Taggart http://www.marykay.com/dtaggart3 http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ ________________________________ >> >> I was researching Historical Society files for stories about >> >> past fires in the city. Page 1 headlines from 1948: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > term. How about "You suck!" Wonder where THAT little > beauty came from? ;\ > "The cigarette does the smoking, you're just the sucker." - one of my > favorite quotes. I don't, of course, know who said it. One of my [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > DeeTee One thing Charlie was known for during his twenty years in the Air Force. Mostly in intelligence. If you walked up to his desk and set your ash tray down, it would hit the far wall immediately. I don't think he was impressed with the effectiveness of the "thank you for not smoking" desk signs. Jo > >> Yeah, but anyone familiar with Brits and the Irish, etc. usually know > >> that the word "fag" is a reference to a cigarette. :-) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > term. How about "You suck!" Wonder where THAT little > > beauty came from? ;\ > "The cigarette does the smoking, you're just the sucker." - one of my > favorite quotes. I don't, of course, know who said it. One of my favorite > quotes, which I made up one day in the heat of battle with a smoker at work: > You have to question the intelligence of someone who knowingly inhales a > proven carcinogen. T'wern't whut ah meant really, but you knew that huh? ;\ A: Everything works backward! Q: What happens when you top-post too much? Fixed it 4 ya. :) Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ www.webtribe.net/~mikeswebstuff/ tinyurl.com/6bf56 Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > > >> Yeah, but anyone familiar with Brits and the Irish, etc. usually know > > >> that the word "fag" is a reference to a cigarette. :-) [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Fixed it 4 ya. :) Well, that's another thing we're not too picky about on this group. Most of us really don't mind if messages are top-posted, and the rest don't complain...much. Kelly C.;o) > > > >> Yeah, but anyone familiar with Brits and the Irish, etc. usually know > > > >> that the word "fag" is a reference to a cigarette. :-) [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Kelly C.;o) No biggie, I just found that things looked a bit of a mess otherwise. If one does top-post, then it does help of one snips with enthusiasm however. BTW, I fixed YOUR post by removing the double-dash sigline delimiter you slipped in there. In some software, this causes whatever appears after it to vanish. Gotcha! ;) Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ www.webtribe.net/~mikeswebstuff/ tinyurl.com/6bf56 Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > > Well, that's another thing we're not too picky about on this group. Most of > > us really don't mind if messages are top-posted, and the rest don't > > complain...much. > > > > Kelly C.;o) *snipped with enthusiasm and a bit of sarcasm* > BTW, I fixed YOUR post by removing the double-dash sigline > delimiter you slipped in there. The what? And no, I didn't slip anything in...at least I can't see it. 'Splain yourself, man! In some software, this > causes whatever appears after it to vanish. Would this be because I've set my sig. line to only appear on new posts/emails and not replies? > Gotcha! ;) > > BTW, I fixed YOUR post by removing the double-dash sigline > > delimiter you slipped in there. > > The what? And no, I didn't slip anything in...at least I can't see it. > 'Splain yourself, man! If you put a double-dash on a line of it's own, it acts as a (standard) control device to certain newsreader's functions, establishing that anything after it is a sig-line. When someone "replies", anything below this double-dash is automatically snipped, and therefore unavailable in whatever application is used to write the reply. Some people have sig-lines snipped from everything, and therefore would miss a chunk of a post if it appeared after double-dashes. > > In some software, this > > causes whatever appears after it to vanish. > > Would this be because I've set my sig. line to only appear on new > posts/emails and not replies? I have no idea, as I don't know what your particular newsreader actually does and does not do, or how it does it. (?) As I said, no biggie, but worth mentioning as some people/applications/programs rely on established standards being followed. Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ www.webtribe.net/~mikeswebstuff/ tinyurl.com/6bf56 Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > If you put a double-dash on a line of it's own, it acts as a > (standard) control device to certain newsreader's functions, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > sig-lines snipped from everything, and therefore would miss > a chunk of a post if it appeared after double-dashes. Okay, that makes sense, except I didn't put in any dashes at all, let alone double ones. I did put in a row of asterisks, which I've now removed. Is it better for you? Kelly C. > > If you put a double-dash on a line of it's own, it acts as a > > (standard) control device to certain newsreader's functions, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > double ones. I did put in a row of asterisks, which I've now removed. Is it > better for you? Hmmm? Maybe it was an overspill from another post that got tangled up with something else? I got a double-dash that needed "fixing" to reply. Ah well... AFAIK, asterisks are just text content, and I don't have a problem with them. Others may, but if so, can speak for themselves methinks. Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ www.webtribe.net/~mikeswebstuff/ tinyurl.com/6bf56 Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > Okay, that makes sense, except I didn't put in any dashes at > all, let alone double ones. I did put in a row of asterisks, > which I've now removed. Is it better for you? Kelly, I use OE "Quote Fix" which fixes messy quotes and highlights each successive person's quote in a different color. What Mike means about the double dash, is that most sig files use it to signify to certain programs, such as mine, that everything below the two dashes is the prior poster's signature file and snips it automatically when I respond. If someone posts a reply below a double dash, the reply gets snipped along with the sig file. It's easier to understand if you've ever used a program like that, but since many people here have severe arthritis and find it difficult to scroll down with painful fingers, they prefer top posting, which is considered a "no-no" on many other groups. I usually try to snip all but the most important info I'm replying to when I post my reply at the bottom, which is the method I prefer, but I understand the reason for top posting due to physical problems, especially on an arthritis newsgroup. Most folks here are pretty tolerant, however, considering the content and purpose of this particular group. :-) Hope you're having a good week. Mag >> Okay, that makes sense, except I didn't put in any dashes at >> all, let alone double ones. I did put in a row of asterisks, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Hope you're having a good week. > Mag Thank you for the info on where in the post to put a reply. I will post at the bottom now. Some posts get pretty long. Jan2 > Thank you for the info on where in the post to put a reply. I > will post at the bottom now. Some posts get pretty long. Jan2 You're welcome for the info, but like I said, quite a few here like top posting for a valid reason. For ease of reading for those instances, when I'm replying to one like that and have to quote quite a bit of text that I'm referring to, I'll sometimes top post so those with very painful fingers don't have to scroll all the way down for my reply. Bottom posting is basically just a "rule of thumb" on USENET, but we're pretty much family here at ASA and we don't mind if Aunt Edna talks a little loud because she doesn't hear well, or Uncle Fredo repeats himself numerous times. It's family and you love 'em anyway and try to accomodate them when you can. :-) Mag (who posts any which way makes her happy except on the motorcycle newsgroup where she would be completely ostracized for top posting) LOL > You're welcome for the info, but like I said, quite a few here like > top posting for a valid reason. For ease of reading for those [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > repeats himself numerous times. It's family and you love 'em anyway > and try to accomodate them when you can. :-) yeah, on any other newsgroup I have to be REALLY interested in the subject to subject my hand/wrist to scrolling. I usually will do it on this group because I get as caught up in the subject drifts here as much as anyone else. In replying, I generally either top post or trim things so it all can be viewed without scrolling - except of course when I get going on a long rant. heehee SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare > yeah, on any other newsgroup I have to be REALLY interested in the subject to > subject my hand/wrist to scrolling. I usually will do it on this group > because I get as caught up in the subject drifts here as much as anyone else. > In replying, I generally either top post or trim things so it all can be > viewed without scrolling - except of course when I get going on a long rant. > heehee A thought or two just crossed my mind... Do you have difficulty using the PGUP/PGDN keys? Do you know that Opera has functions designed to make things easier for people who have difficulties, like mouse movement controlled browsing, a thing where you just middle-click on a page and your mouse cursor scrolls tha page etc. ? As someone who tends to use keyboard-only applications (Pine, Lynx etc.) I find little difficulty performing most tasks when the joints start getting stiff as my hands are already where I need them to be, and I don't need to keep hunting for the mouse and playing "hit the button" with it. ;) Just a few ideas there... Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ www.webtribe.net/~mikeswebstuff/ tinyurl.com/6bf56 Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) >> yeah, on any other newsgroup I have to be REALLY interested in the >> subject to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Just a few ideas there... Nann & Mike, It was really stressful for me to sit in front of the desktop and use a mouse to scroll up or down. When I had to sit upright in an office chair and scroll with a mouse, I developed sciatic nerve inflammation, spasms in my trapizius both shoulders, lower back pain like a red hot ice pick digging in, and locked up all over. Then about a month ago I discovered that Dell makes a 4.lbs. notebook pc (Maybe it weighs a few ounces less...forgot, but remember the "4 Lb number). It has a mouse pad, eliminating the need to grrrrip a mouse. Now I rest my back in bed on a pile of pillows, feet up. I can even lift the notebook pc and put it away without help. When I used the desktop only, the body stress from pain made my brain lock up too. Sometimes stress overload causes me to forget what date it is, even year, and I have to think about it for a minute or so. I think everyone knows what I mean. Able bodied people often overload with chores, too, and use up their last nerve. I forgot that for a few years, because the RA made it easy for me to be selfishly self righteous about my suffering, in not allowing that able bodied people also have bouts with acute stress. Jan2 > >> yeah, on any other newsgroup I have to be REALLY interested in the > >> subject to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > > > Just a few ideas there... > Nann & Mike, It was really stressful for me to sit in front of the > desktop and use a mouse to scroll up or down. When I had to sit upright in [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > RA made it easy for me to be selfishly self righteous about my suffering, in > not allowing that able bodied people also have bouts with acute stress. This sounds like an ergonomics thing. Each person will have their own particular requirements, and discovering them can be a full-time job in itself. The idea of sitting in bed trying to use a laptop mousepad makes my arms hurt just thinking about it, but then again, thats my problem. ;\ Whatever works best I suppose. Knowing about what options are available can help too. If a mousepad works for you, how about cursor keys? I'm thinking about the Pine Email/News program that you can do just about everything with using just the cursor keys. Nancy McGough's "Infinite Ink" pages have more on this @ http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ www.webtribe.net/~mikeswebstuff/ tinyurl.com/6bf56 Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > Kelly, I use OE "Quote Fix" which fixes messy quotes and highlights > each successive person's quote in a different color. What Mike means [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Hope you're having a good week. > Mag Thanks, Mag. For the purposes of this group, you'll very rarely see a sig. line from me, but it's good info. to have. I'm thinking of just deleting it altogether. I'm a basic 'ol OE user, with no plans on changing, but if it makes it hard for others to read, I'll do without my quirky sigs.:o) Kelly C. > Thanks, Mag. For the purposes of this group, you'll very rarely see a sig. > line from me, but it's good info. to have. I'm thinking of just deleting it > altogether. I'm a basic 'ol OE user, with no plans on changing, but if it > makes it hard for others to read, I'll do without my quirky sigs.:o) There's nothing wrong with sigs. All you need to remember is to make sure they are below a double-dash, as previous posts on this thread have mentioned, that, and make sure you don't mess about with the standard "markings" your newsreader would have been configured to place by default, like the > marker, as mentioned. As I recall, usenet "good practice" also requests that sig-lines not be more than four lines, and those lines should not be longer that about 60 characters, or something like that. There are those who will quote RFC documentation as if it were internationally binding law. It isn't, its just guidelines that serve a useful purpose. I must admit though, it DOES get painful on the eyes after a few chapter-length siggies have clogged up the screen. ;\ As for those who insist on using "clever" quote-markers... ]:>- ]:>- like these ]:>- horrible things ]:>- for example ]:>- ]:>- ...looks all fine and dandy on one person's monitor, but try working your way through a color-indexed thread when a few replies have build up and nobody snips! 80 P.S. Go on, put your sig-line back. Sig-lines are FUN! :) Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ www.webtribe.net/~mikeswebstuff/ tinyurl.com/6bf56 Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > Go on, put your sig-line back. Sig-lines are FUN! :) especially Duckie's... :-) Mag It seems to me I heard somewhere that Margaret M. wrote in article <HncZd.12847$bh2.659@fe2.texas.rr.com>: >>> I was researching Historical Society files for stories about >>> past fires in the city. Page 1 headlines from 1948: >>> DOWNTOWN HOTEL FIRE KILLS ONE - FAG BLAMED >> The term "fag", used as a derogatory reference, is a >> shortened version of "faggot". Join the dots... >> Its all in the context sometimes. >Yeah, but anyone familiar with Brits and the Irish, etc. usually know >that the word "fag" is a reference to a cigarette. :-) "While you've a lucifer to light your fag, smile, boys, that's the style" I seem to recall from my kit bag of old songs. And from my group camping experiences umpteen years ago a faggot is a stick of firewood to throw on a campfire while making decisions and promises and wishes. SignatureDon Old age is when you start saying "I wish I knew now what I knew then." > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Margaret M. wrote in article > <HncZd.12847$bh2.659@fe2.texas.rr.com>: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > stick of firewood to throw on a campfire while making decisions and > promises and wishes. So, faggot, burns well, makes smoke, similar in nature to the term "punk" in it's reference to wood in the process of post growth biological change... "Well? Do you feel lucky... Faggot?" Hmmm... Dosn't have quite the same ring does it? ;\ Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ www.webtribe.net/~mikeswebstuff/ tinyurl.com/6bf56 Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) im not so sure about the 'comical' part. it is used as a pretty nasty putdown in most circles. johnie >>LOL... >>My ex husband has some relatives that are CRACKERS! And they don't [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Kelly C.;o) Kelly Cobb wrote to Janet R: >> In the US...down south....Cracker means something quite comical! > Yup, this is one of those words that may take some time to make its way > into American use in the way intended by people who don't live here. The term "safe cracker" has been in the American vocabulary for a couple of centuries, if not longer. There's really no differerence between cracking a safe and a computer. ... Join me yesterday in stamping out procrastination. while doing genealogy about 7 years ago, i noted we had two "crackers" during the 19th century, one in san francisco and one in new york city. back then, it was an occupation and meant a biscuit salesman. one often runs across "crackers" in the u.s. census films for that era. in my connecticut clan, "crackers" was synonymous with "bonkers" or a crazy person. my new york uncles often used the word fag to mean cigarette. since they were in europe during ww2, i assume they acquired the word usage there. but, that's the first time i've heard about the word "fanny" though.LOL had an iranian friend back in the '70s in college. whenever i spoke of coast to coast anything, she became hysterical with laughter. turns out coast to coast has the same meaning in iran, as fanny does in the uk. kate (in awe at how the human species manages to communicate at all.<g>) > Kelly Cobb wrote to Janet R: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > ... Join me yesterday in stamping out procrastination. Janet, I'm from way down south, and the term "cracker" has never meant anything comical where I come from. Being a Georgia Cracker was a compliment! Gwen > LOL... > My ex husband has some relatives that are CRACKERS! And they don't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > : > I do agree with you, Donna. They have all the info they'd need to > steal > : > your identity. One can only hope that when they have to throw [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > : > : Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > Janet, I'm from way down south, and the term "cracker" has never meant > anything comical where I come from. Being a Georgia Cracker was a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > In the US...down south....Cracker means something quite comical! So if I'm ever over the water, I must NOT describe an attractive woman as a "right cracker" (northern term) then? 80 > > : HACKER = Nice person with strained eye sight > > : working to make poota software better [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > : CRACKER = Criminal using knowledge for illegal purposes > > : (Think criminal) P.S. So who's been playing with their software then? The : is NOT a valid quote indicator and screws up some readers, particularly those designed for the partially sighted. SLAPPED WRISTS! Now put it back how it was please. :| Pesky hackers! ;\ Signature--------------------------- http://tinyurl.com/4872c Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > LOL... > My ex husband has some relatives that are CRACKERS! And they don't > even own a Poota! > > In the US...down south....Cracker means something quite comical! well, I wouldn't say COMICAL, leastways not in old Florida. It's rather a matter of pride there - the folks who could live off the land and make it through summer without a/c! SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare It seems to me I heard somewhere that Nann Bell wrote in article <0001HW.BE47DEA200007CC912873940@News.Individual.NET>: >> LOL... >> My ex husband has some relatives that are CRACKERS! And they don't >> even own a Poota! >> In the US...down south....Cracker means something quite comical! >well, I wouldn't say COMICAL, leastways not in old Florida. It's rather a >matter of pride there - the folks who could live off the land and make it >through summer without a/c! Yep, "Cracker" and "Redneck" - two words whose meanings reflect which side of the Mason-Dixon line you live on. :-) SignatureDon Old age is when you start saying "I wish I knew now what I knew then." >> well, I wouldn't say COMICAL, leastways not in old Florida. It's rather a >> matter of pride there - the folks who could live off the land and make it >> through summer without a/c! > > Yep, "Cracker" and "Redneck" - two words whose meanings reflect which > side of the Mason-Dixon line you live on. :-) now, now, in Florida at least there is a big difference between a cracker and a redneck. Cracker is a self-sufficient, independent backwoods sort. Heck, there are lots of Florida "crackers" who have PhDs, but eschew modern conveniences. Redneck is a much less complimentary term - I won't go there. SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare OK OK OK.... My ex husband's relatives are REDNECKS....not crackers! LOL Janet R : >> well, I wouldn't say COMICAL, leastways not in old Florida. It's rather a : >> matter of pride there - the folks who could live off the land and make it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : there are lots of Florida "crackers" who have PhDs, but eschew modern : conveniences. Redneck is a much less complimentary term - I won't go there. > OK OK OK.... > My ex husband's relatives are REDNECKS....not crackers! LOL > > Janet R All name calling offends someone that may be included in the name. This applies to all races, types, areas, and locations. Harv Donnah and I use to share redneck jokes! Gwen > > OK OK OK.... > > My ex husband's relatives are REDNECKS....not crackers! LOL [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > applies to all races, types, areas, and locations. > Harv > Donnah and I use to share redneck jokes! i bet you did...can any of them be shared? >g< johnie Johnie, I can't remember them! Gwen > > Donnah and I use to share redneck jokes! > > i bet you did...can any of them be shared? >g< > > johnie > Donnah and I use to share redneck jokes! > Gwen yeahhhh. donnah totally loved redneck jokes. kate >> > OK OK OK.... >> > My ex husband's relatives are REDNECKS....not crackers! LOL [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> applies to all races, types, areas, and locations. >> Harv >> Donnah and I use to share redneck jokes! >> Gwen > > yeahhhh. donnah totally loved redneck jokes. > > kate :-) Yes, she did. I do too because I came from N. Georgia and lived there until about the third grade in school. I lived with peaches and crackers and found that Texans were better. LOL Have you ever watched that show on the comedy channel with the three comedians on stage? Love it. Harv Ps One of them has made a fortune out of ,,,, you know you are a redneck when____-----. BLUE COLLAR TV! I even tape it to re-watch later! I have all those comedian's DVD...they are a hoot! Oh dear lordy...I AM possibly, maybe, just might be, could be, just a smidgen redneckish! LOL Janet R : >> Donnah and I use to share redneck jokes! : >> Gwen [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : Ps One of them has made a fortune out of ,,,, you know you are a redneck : when____-----. >>> Donnah and I use to share redneck jokes! >>> Gwen [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Ps One of them has made a fortune out of ,,,, you know you are a redneck > when____-----. nope. somehow, that one's gotten by me. i'll just have to make a point of looking for it.<smile> i didn't know you were from georgia, harv. one of my grandsons was born in savanah, being raised in arizona. and ironically, i located some of the 18th and 19th century paintings done by my new york/new rochelle/huguenot ancestors/grandfathers in the ritz carlton buckhead collection in atlanta. so, i hold some fondness for georgia.<smile> kate > i didn't know you were from georgia, harv. one of my grandsons was born > in savanah, being raised in arizona. and ironically, i located some of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > kate Hi Kate,,, Good and bad memories of that time in my life. I lived outside of Toccoa which is where the heavyweight world champion weight lifter came from.. Paul Anderson.... It is 150 miles to the north east of Atlanta which almost puts it in Carolina and 150 years back in time. So it goes. Harv Gwen Love wrote > >> Donnah and I use to share redneck jokes! And Kate replied: > yeahhhh. donnah totally loved redneck jokes. ... Hillbilly wedding proposal: "Yer whut!?!?!?!?!" ... Feminists make a case for RETROACTIVE birth control. ... URA Redneck if U've ever used lard in bed. ... URA Redneck if you and your dog use the same tree. ... URA Redneck if you think God look like Hank Williams, Jr. ... URA Redneck if you get a divorce and you're STILL cousins. ... URA Redneck if you go to family reunions to look for dates. ... URA Redneck if truckers tell your wife to watch her language. ... URA Redneck if you're holding a beer in your wedding picture. ... URA Redneck if your weddding proposal was "Yer whut!?!?!?!?!" ... URA Redneck if you have orange road cones in your living room. ... URA Redneck if you think Virginia Slims is a new brand of condoms. ... URA Redneck if you've ever done Christmas shopping at a truck stop. ... URA a Redneck if you have a rag for a gas cap. ... URA a Redneck if you took a fishing pole to Sea World. ... URA a Redneck if you burn your yard rather than mow it. ... URA a Redneck if you've hit on somebody in a VD clinic. ... URA a Redneck if you've bathed with flea and tick soap. ... URA a Redneck if you can spit without opening your mouth. ... URA a Redneck if you thought the Unibomber was a wrestler. ... URA a Redneck if the Salvation Army declines your mattress. ... URA a Redneck if you keep a can of Raid on the kitchen table. ... URA a Redneck if you have the local taxidermist on speed dial. ... URA a Redneck if you've asked the preacher "How's it hangin'?" ... URA a Redneck if your kids take a siphon hose to show and tell. ... URA a Redneck if you think fast food is hitting a deer at 65mph. ... URA a Redneck if your lifetime goal is to own a fireworks stand. ... URA a Redneck Yur working TV sits on top of your non-working TV. ... URA a Redneck if you've used a toilet brush as a back scratcher. ... URA a Redneck if the biggest city you've ever been to is Walmart. ... URA a Redneck if your wife can climb a tree faster than your cat. ... URA a Redneck if your boat has not left the driveway in 15 years. ... URA a Redneck if your grandmother has "Ammo" on her Christmas list. ... URA a Redneck if you think a subdivision is part of a math problem. ... URA a Redneck your house doesn't have curtains but your truck does. ... URA a Redneck if you know how many bales of hay your car will hold. ... URA a Redneck you've ever used your ironing board as a buffet table. ... URA a Redneck if you come back from the dump with more than you took. ... URA a Redneck your property has been mistaken for a recycling center. ... URA a Redneck you go to the stock car races and don't need a program. ... URA a Redneck you think a hot tub is a stolen indoor plumbing fixture. ... URA a Redneck if you had romantic thoughts when you heard sheep bleat. ... You know you're a redneck when ... ... You think a quarter horse is that ride in front of K-Mart. ... You missed 5th grade graduation because you had jury duty. ... You've been kicked out of the zoo for heckling the monkeys. ... You've been involved in a custody fight over a hunting dog. ... You take your dog for a walk and you both use the same tree. ... You wonder how service stations keep their restrooms so clean. ... You think the Nutcracker is something you did off the high dive. ... You can entertain yourself for more than an hour with a flyswatter. ... You sit on your roof at Christmas time hoping to fill your deer quota. ... Your father executes the "Pull my finger" trick during Christmas dinner. ... Your entire family sat around waiting for a ... call from the governor to spare a loved one. ... You offer to give someone the shirt off ... your back and they don't want it. ... You consider your license plate personalized ... because your father made it. ... You have a complete set of salad bowls ... and they all say Cool Whip on the side. ... Your neighbors think you're a detective ... because a cop always brings you home. ... A tornado hits your neighborhood and ... does $100,000 worth of improvements. ... Your richest relative buys a new house and ... calls you up to help him take the wheels off. ... Somebody tells you that you've got something in your ... teeth and you take them out to see what it is. ... You've ever stared at a can of orange juice ... because it said concentrate. Harv....I'm not typically a name caller....but those folks were a mystery to me. You are right...I am insulting rednecks all over the planet by call them that name! Besides...me's thinks my neck may be a bit red! (ooops, did I say that outloud?) Janet R : > OK OK OK.... : > My ex husband's relatives are REDNECKS....not crackers! LOL [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : applies to all races, types, areas, and locations. : Harv > > OK OK OK.... > > My ex husband's relatives are REDNECKS....not crackers! LOL [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > applies to all races, types, areas, and locations. > Harv But then again, some folks look for offense where none was offered. Its all in the context. You can't spend your life wondering if what you have to say may offend someone else who uses the words for different purposes. You'd be "pissed off" all the time. ;\ I do think you have a good point though, especially when it comes to the use of language in a medium as limited as a newsgroup. Dry wit can all too often burst into flames within minutes as someone from somewhere else reads something that wasn't intended. Heh! I just remembered an old chum who used to put on an accent and exclaim "Well! Stroke my chuff!" The only problem with this phrase is that it would most likely get her some "business" within an hour's drive from where we were. I'll bugger off for now then. :) Signature--------------------------- http://tinyurl.com/4872c Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > Heh! I just remembered an old chum who used to put on an > accent and exclaim "Well! Stroke my chuff!" The only problem > with this phrase is that it would most likely get her some > "business" within an hour's drive from where we were. > > I'll bugger off for now then. :) yea, just bloody friggin'bugger off...you bloody friggin'"bloomberg". >bg< johnie > > Heh! I just remembered an old chum who used to put on an > > accent and exclaim "Well! Stroke my chuff!" The only problem [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >bg< > johnie Ahem! Thats MISTER Bloomberg to you sunny gym! BTW, guess what a popular slang word for a condom is here in the UK? (Tee hee!) Signature--------------------------- http://tinyurl.com/4872c Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > Ahem! Thats MISTER Bloomberg to you sunny gym! > > BTW, guess what a popular slang word for a condom is > here in the UK? (Tee hee!) "big pink" think thats an old one. there's a reference joke about 'rear wheels' here that might be too vulgar to use. >g< What amazes me about the 'British slang'./especially 'London Slang' besides its size is the # of references to defecation. its practically an obsession. johnie > > Ahem! Thats MISTER Bloomberg to you sunny gym! > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > besides its size is the # of references to defecation. its practically > an obsession. Oh, London. Hmmm... Lets just consider London to be another country altogether shall we? Don't forget, I'm a Northerner. Different creature. We use all the vowels, (not just going "aaah" all the time) and have chins. ;\ P.S. Common slang for condoms is "Johnies" "Hey! Have you got any Rubber Johnies" Waddya know! Yer famous! ;) Signature--------------------------- http://tinyurl.com/4872c Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) > Don't forget, I'm a Northerner. Different creature. We use > all the vowels, (not just going "aaah" all the time) and > have chins. ;\ mike, what county? are you saying that londoners are chinless?>g< johnie > > Don't forget, I'm a Northerner. Different creature. We use > > all the vowels, (not just going "aaah" all the time) and > > have chins. ;\ > > mike, what county? > are you saying that londoners are chinless?>g< See the Monty Python "Upper-class Twit of the Year" scene. Also... In the UK, there is a huge divide between the North, where about 80% of the nation's wealth is created, and the South, where about 80% of the nation's wealth is "owned". Given this, it is a tad cheeky for (some) Southeners to regard the North as a place full of stereotypes, as "we" effectively pay "their" bills and more, AND speak English clearly, though granted in many areas with a distinct accent of one kind or another. What REALLY gets to me is the mangled unintelligable "Fwaaah fwaaah fwaaah" noises a lot of them make when attempting to speak English, coupled with the myth that this is how English should be spoken. My response to this is that good old English word, Bollocks! However, in the south, this would come out as Baaal'ksss. The latest manifestation (or should I say infestation?) of this Fwaaah-ing is in local supermarkets. There I go with my trolly, in deepest Yorkshire, heartland of the North of England, and some spotty git in some central office thinks its going to sell more stuff to someone who has ALREADY decided to shop there, by playing a continuous loop of some whining nasal Fwaaah-ing Londoner banging on about "baaahth saaahlts" etc. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGGGHH! Time to build another Hadrian's Wall methinks. This time a bit lower down the map! :|| I'd even go so far as to say that any Americans can speak English better than most in the South of England, and especially Londoners. ;) P.S. I'm wondering how long it will be before someone from London (Laaahnd'n) or Essex (Eh-six) finds this post. :) Signature--------------------------- http://tinyurl.com/4872c Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) It seems to me I heard somewhere that Nann Bell wrote in article <0001HW.BE49CD1D00180A7B11DAE6E0@News.Individual.NET>: >>> well, I wouldn't say COMICAL, leastways not in old Florida. It's rather a >>> matter of pride there - the folks who could live off the land and make it >>> through summer without a/c! >> Yep, "Cracker" and "Redneck" - two words whose meanings reflect which >> side of the Mason-Dixon line you live on. :-) >now, now, in Florida at least there is a big difference between a cracker and >a redneck. Cracker is a self-sufficient, independent backwoods sort. Heck, >there are lots of Florida "crackers" who have PhDs, but eschew modern >conveniences. Redneck is a much less complimentary term - I won't go there. No, no, you misunderstand because I explained it poorly! They are separate words, but each one has a different definition or nuance in the north than it does in the south. :-) SignatureDon Old age is when you start saying "I wish I knew now what I knew then." >> now, now, in Florida at least there is a big difference between a cracker >> and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > separate words, but each one has a different definition or nuance in the > north than it does in the south. :-) I should have tossed in a LOL or two in there. It is how the terms are understood in FL, at least north FL - can't tell 'bout the south Floridians LOL. I was having a bit of fun with giving you a hard time over it...... One time m y husband told some northerner (since we've been up north) that his wife is a native Floridian, but not a cracker. I said, "oh yes I am! I'm a cracker, but not a redneck!" LOL Even after 30 years down south, he forgets the difference. His childhood mid-western indoctrination takes over! heehee. SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare > In the US...down south....Cracker means something quite comical! And it probably isn't in a standard dictionary. ... If love is blind, lingerie makes great Braille. > Gotta haul ya up here on this one. > > You're talking about CRACKERS, not HACKERS. *snipped to get to the definitions*:o) > HACKER = Nice person with strained eye sight > working to make poota software better [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) I play the Sims and frequent a few news groups where this very topic is almost a daily one and I appreciate the difference. It will still take some time and effort to rid the improper terminology from use. As we know from the Cox 2 reporting, when something is pounded into our heads by the media on a daily basis it can be hard to overcome that programming. Thanks for the easy-to-remember definitions.:o) Kelly C.;o) It seems to me I heard somewhere that Mike-UK wrote in article <Pine.LNX.4.58.0502271138050.856@cbbg1.svfuvan.arg>: >> I do agree with you, Donna. They have all the info they'd need to steal >> your identity. One can only hope that when they have to throw papers [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> officials. Now that its hit their backyard, I'm sure they'll be more >> inclined to do something about it. >Gotta haul ya up here on this one. >You're talking about CRACKERS, not HACKERS. >Hackers are people like me, who spend more time than is >sometimes healthy working with configs, install routines, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >plain and simple. The STANDARD REFERENCE TERM for this kind >of CRIMINAL is, as I've mentioned, a CRACKER. >P.S. Before the "but they're called hackers in the press" > replies flood in, the use of the term hacker when the > term cracker should have been used is simply plain > wrong and a bad habit of ignorant journo-hacks who know > very little about that which they scribble such junk > about so often. > HACKER = Nice person with strained eye sight > working to make poota software better > for you and me > (Think Linux/FreeBSD) > CRACKER = Criminal using knowledge for illegal purposes > (Think criminal) Mike's got it right. Even before computers "hacking around" was an expression for doing something simply for the pleasure of it. I heard it from kids on the mean streets in the 1970s, and one 1980s slang dictionary defines it as "to do nothing in particular; idle; loaf". Sort of like the media confusing NSAIDs with pain killers, I guess--though I doubt we'll ever see either usage clarified enough to make a difference. SignatureDon Old age is when you start saying "I wish I knew now what I knew then." > >You're talking about CRACKERS, not HACKERS. > Mike's got it right. Even before computers "hacking around" was an > expression for doing something simply for the pleasure of it. I heard [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > guess--though I doubt we'll ever see either usage clarified enough to > make a difference. Well, not until someone gets pissed about it that is... ;\ The phrase here of course should be "pissed off", as "pissed" means you've had too much to drink. Remember that scene in "The Running Man" "You look pissed Ben!" Kinda spoils the movie when they screw up the slang so badly. P.S. Anyone want to debate the American language? There IS such a thing y'know. :) Search "American dictionary" for more... Signature--------------------------- http://tinyurl.com/4872c Have a nice day, it really does do you good! :) >> >You're talking about CRACKERS, not HACKERS. LOL... this started quite the argument here. A simple stop at dictionary.com verified this. It also clued me in to the other use of the word, which I had never heard. Unfortunately my son told me it is a common word in the schools here now too :-( Janet N. i've never been asked for my DL with my medical coverage card in washington either, donnag. this year, in this state, regence BC/BS removed social security numbers from our medical cards and replaced them with new i.d. numbers. i was happy to see that, as it was "supposed to be illegal" to use social security numbers for any other purpose than what was originally intended. somehow, that illegality went by the wayside quite awhile ago. hmmmm . . . y'knowwww, i wonder if enough of us, across the nation, put up a stink about it, if we could "encourage" photo i.d. to be put on our medical cards? thus eliminating the need for other picture i.d. and the states' and insurance companies' "concern" about insurance fraud. the dumb thing is, insurance fraud is not going to be stopped by having two pieces of i.d. let me tell you about a foot locker i purchased for five bucks, at a storage company's blind auction about 15-20 years ago---full of photo i.d.s of all kinds and some other "interesting" stuff. local police enforcement were delighted to get their hands on that foot locker, when i called them about it. they told me it belonged to a bank robber. btw, i drew the line more than a decade ago, but technology erased it for all of us. kate >I have not been asked for my drivers license here in Washington. I did >notice that my MD's office now asks for the insurance card every time I go [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >> >> Donna G > me tell you about a foot locker i purchased for five bucks, at a storage > company's blind auction about 15-20 years ago---full of photo i.d.s of all > kinds and some other "interesting" stuff. local police enforcement were > delighted to get their hands on that foot locker, when i called them about > it. they told me it belonged to a bank robber. did they let you keep the foot locker after you turned over the contents? After all, you had paid $5 for it! LOL I've got that combined German and Scottish ancestry - I can be *frugal* to a fault at times. heehee. I do figure there is so much personal information about each of us so readily available out there these days, that the best form of prevention is vigilance. Identity theft is a pain even if you catch it early, but with vigilance you can at least keep it from ruining your credit rating until you get it all straightened out. SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare hey donna, what you doing up in the middle of the night? i hope your feeling okay. Are you? about the ID issue. i think your concerns are legit. way too much info on too many documents. if you can, one thing you should do is have your SS# removed from any IDs. lucy and i had it replaced with a different number on all our id's about 5 years ago. it just seemed ridiculous to have the SS# on cards so many had access to. they flinched a bit at the University but we researched it and they had to honor our request for our ins. id's and her faculty id. it made us feel a lot better about using our cards. the state mandate you are under hasn't worked its way into the state system here...YET... other than that i am not sure what else to do. when the state and the "big bosses"(ins.cos.) get together they are hard to fight. Now get some sleep. i will try to get an hour myself. johnie > It seems that more and more doctors offices are now requiring you to > have both your insurance cards and your drivers license with you for [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Donna G > hey donna, what you doing up in the middle of the night? i hope your > feeling okay. Are you? [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> >> Donna G Everybody and their brother (big brother?) nowadays seem to ask for your SS#. For people who say we don't have a national ID, look again. Nell Let's see, I guess my RD's office did ask and I think photocopied as well - on my first visit only though. Can't remember about my PCP. My PCP's office asks for the insurance card each time, but not my RD who I know see in a satellite office.I hadn't really thought about it, but now that I do I believe your concerns are valid. I can see maybe asking to see you license each time as it is a picture ID, but copying each time seems excessive and I guarantee my docs aren't copying each time so it can't be state-wide law. (My PCP is in a huge, multi-specialty practice so I think they'd be doing it!) Of course, they have your birthdate in the files already, but having your license number in addition to everything else opens more doors to the potential thief. I'd say the number one protection is to be vigilant. Check all your bills carefully and be certain that you do get all the bills you should each month. It might help to make a list you can check off each month. SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare > Of course, they have your birthdate in the files already, but > having your license number in addition to everything else > opens more doors to the potential thief. I wonder what they would do with a non-driver like me???? I use my retired military ID when asked for ID. And ADA requires any business (doctors are businesses) to accept any government-issued photo ID from those who do not drive. A local Radio Shack delear got into deep doo-doo with the state and federal DOJs when it refused to accept my military ID a couple years ago. ... You have 2 choices for dinner: take it or leave it. Joe, I suspect for non-drivers, they would more than likely accept state ID cards or some other form of picture ID such as your military ID card. I imagine those cards still have some type of identifiers on them just as the drivers license ID's do. Just seems like that is the only place where you have to give ALL your identifying information at every visit and it just doesn't ring safe with me at all. Donna G Wow, just got around to reading the rest of yesterdays paper. I opened the Connection section of our Ann Arbor News and there is a big article on ID theft. The articles title: Identity thieves find ways to now target patients! Yikes! How strange is that, when we were just discussing that very topic! Strangely enough, right above that article is an article about how whooping cough is becoming a growing health threat again! Strange!!! Donna G >> Of course, they have your birthdate in the files already, but >> having your license number in addition to everything else [quoted text clipped - 11 l |
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