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Paraffin Wax Baths

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Suzie - 23 Feb 2005 01:43 GMT
Does anyone know where I can get a Paraffin Wax Bath in Australia.  It seems
that most of the places that sell them in the USA or UK either dont send
overseas or charge a small fortune for sending overseas.

Any ideas?

Suzie
Kelly Cobb - 23 Feb 2005 01:56 GMT
How about calling around to physical therapy offices and asking if they use
them and where they got them if they do.

Kelly C.

> Does anyone know where I can get a Paraffin Wax Bath in Australia.  It seems
> that most of the places that sell them in the USA or UK either dont send
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> Suzie
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 23 Feb 2005 01:59 GMT
> How about calling around to physical therapy offices and asking if they use
> them and where they got them if they do.
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> >
> > Suzie

Or try calling some beauty salons, the ones that do nails (manicures,
pedicures, acrylic nails) and ask them if they have them.  I know
several of the local salons hereabouts use them during their manicures
and pedicures (separate baths strangely).

Smokie Darling (Annie)
Suzie - 23 Feb 2005 02:12 GMT
Thanks, I will try these ideas.  I am also waiting to hear from the
Idependent Living Centre which is a place that sells equipment (like special
cutlery, chairs ect) to assist people with disabilities.  I hadnt thought of
the beauty salon idea, good thinking.
many minds are better than one!
thanks again

> > How about calling around to physical therapy offices and asking if
> they use
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>
> Smokie Darling (Annie)
Joan Carter - 23 Feb 2005 03:14 GMT
>Thanks, I will try these ideas.  I am also waiting to hear from the
>Idependent Living Centre which is a place that sells equipment (like special
>cutlery, chairs ect) to assist people with disabilities.  I hadnt thought of
>the beauty salon idea, good thinking.
>many minds are better than one!
>thanks again

My massage therapist has a paraffin bath for hands. If you go the crock pot
route be very careful of the temperature and be sure to use mineral oil with the
wax.
---
Joan
Bonnie Brien - 23 Feb 2005 03:31 GMT
I got mine at a GNC store

Bonnie
firechief - 23 Feb 2005 02:04 GMT
> Does anyone know where I can get a Paraffin Wax Bath in
>Australia.  It seems that most of the places that sell them in
> the USA or UK either dont send overseas or charge a
> small fortune for sending overseas.
>
> Any ideas?

In past years, a few in ASA have resorted to using a
CrockPot for a paraffin wax bath.  Some bought
their CrockPot at a second-hand / recycle store.
d'huit - 23 Feb 2005 02:24 GMT
>> Does anyone know where I can get a Paraffin Wax Bath in
>>Australia.  It seems that most of the places that sell them in
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> CrockPot for a paraffin wax bath.  Some bought
> their CrockPot at a second-hand / recycle store.

chief, i know that sounds like a good idea, but paraffin was has a low
flashpoint, from what i understand, though you are the perfect person to ask
about that particular fact.  if that is the case, one would have to be
extreemly careful that crockpot heating mechanisms are kept at a low
temperatures and one would certainly not want to walk away from a crockpot
full of paraffin wax to putter at something else while it heats.  y'think?
i think i'd even be concerned about purchasing a used crockpot for this
purpose, not knowing if the heat regulator on the used pot is even working
correctly.

kate
firechief - 23 Feb 2005 08:16 GMT
Kate wrote:

> chief, i know that sounds like a good idea, but paraffin was has a low
> flashpoint, from what i understand, though you are the perfect person to
> ask about that particular fact.  if that is the case, one would have to be
> extreemly careful that crockpot heating mechanisms are kept at a low
> temperatures

I never had an experience/incident that was the result of "wax".
And every CrockPot I've ever seen has a LOW setting

> and one would certainly not want to walk away from a crockpot full of
> paraffin wax to putter at something else while it heats.

That is true of anything/everything - including a wax bath bought at a
drug store or beauty parlor (as suggested by some), any food on a
stove top, lit candles (maybe that's why candles and incense don't
have a romantic effect on me).  <g>
Jo Firey - 23 Feb 2005 16:39 GMT
> Kate wrote:
>
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> stove top, lit candles (maybe that's why candles and incense don't
> have a romantic effect on me).  <g>

Yes, you would appreciate the "effect" a candle made at my office.  I had a
scented votive candle in a secure holder, and I set it in a safe place at
the back of the bathroom sink.  Which also happened to be in front of a
mirror.

Then forgot I lit it.  (I almost never did)

Got a call from the fire department at 1 am.  The glow from the candle on
the mirror in the dark made it look like the whole inside of the office was
on fire to the neighbors.

So I got to go up to unlock the office and blow out the candle.  Never did
that again.

Jo
Bonnie Brien - 24 Feb 2005 00:36 GMT
I know they probably COULD leave paraffin baths plugged in for every day
use--personlly I turned mine off and unplugged it--

I probably wont use it every day--even though  the therapist says
to--especially if I'm having a GOOD day....with LESS pain or no pain

Crock pots are for cooking food.....the Hometics directions say not to
heat paraffin on the stove

I don't think it's to safe to heat PARAFFIN in a crock or mini crock pot
that's made for cooking food--not heating wax.  

Mine is a HOMETICS mini spa--I got for $20 --few years ago--and just now
using it.  Watch for sales on paraffin baths or clearance prices

Just an opinion here....better to be safe than sorry

I am on the safe side......and don't have a crock pot.

Eventually invest in a paraffin spa......safer

Bonnie
Jo Firey - 24 Feb 2005 01:32 GMT
> I know they probably COULD leave paraffin baths plugged in for every day
> use--personlly I turned mine off and unplugged it--
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>
> Bonnie

I used a crock pot one winter without undue problems.  And I'd have to say
it was more stable, less likely to spill than the paraffin bath I just
bought.

Trouble was, I had a heck of a time getting me and the wax in the same place
when it was the right temperature.  First it would get too hot and then too
cool, etc.  A real nuisance.

The paraffin bath is designed to heat to the proper temperature and then
hold it at that temp.

Jo
Bonnie Brien - 24 Feb 2005 02:24 GMT
Haven't spilled my paraffin spa yet--only used once so far when I had no
meds or creams yet.

Extremely careful......don't wanna suffer a paraffin wax burn on the
skin.

The nice thing is--it will go solid again after you turn it off.

WARNING........WARNING......WARNING..

I am NOT advocating/supporting the use of food Crock Pots for paraffin
soaks

Bonnie
Bonnie Brien - 24 Feb 2005 02:58 GMT
Thanks Jo....glad you evenually got a paraffin bath (which are made for
heating the wax)  and no longer use the crock pots

It comes down to using an appliance for its intended purpose

I'd hate for someone to have a fire----and have an insurance company/
fire marshal find out--that a food crock pot was used to heat wax---and
ball you out for it--or refuse to pay a claim based on that--just like
they'd probably  
would not pay a claim--if you deliberately set fire to your house......

Seriously think about this....before you use a crock pot for heating
wax.......a pan isn't even safe for heating paraffin, according to my
paraffin bath instructions.

Just not......in my opinion......not a very smart idea...  

Crock Pots are not approved for use with wax.....only food

Bonnie
Kelly - 23 Feb 2005 02:27 GMT
Check your drug stores perhaps.  Mine was in the cosmetic department of the
drug store.

Kelly
> Does anyone know where I can get a Paraffin Wax Bath in Australia.  It
> seems
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>
> Suzie
Nicole H - 23 Feb 2005 07:12 GMT
The beauty supply stores sell them here in California.  I imagine if you
looked at some of those places they'll have 'em.
Overseas postage isn't that much more... it's a shame they try to rip you
off.
> Does anyone know where I can get a Paraffin Wax Bath in Australia.  It seems
> that most of the places that sell them in the USA or UK either dont send
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>
> Suzie
Suzie - 23 Feb 2005 14:10 GMT
Thanks to everyone who has responded - and so quickly!  I am well on the way
to finding one to relieve some pain.

> The beauty supply stores sell them here in California.  I imagine if you
> looked at some of those places they'll have 'em.
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> >
> > Suzie
Janet R - 23 Feb 2005 14:43 GMT
There are several brand new ones on Ebay....maybe a seller will be willing
to ship to AU...or if you have a buddy in the States, they can receive the
package and forward it on to you?

Janet R

> Does anyone know where I can get a Paraffin Wax Bath in Australia.  It
> seems
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>
> Suzie
Suzie - 24 Feb 2005 04:03 GMT
yes, i have seen some on ebay - thanks.  i will get one by hook or by
crook!!

> There are several brand new ones on Ebay....maybe a seller will be willing
> to ship to AU...or if you have a buddy in the States, they can receive the
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> >
> > Suzie
Bonnie Brien - 26 Feb 2005 02:30 GMT
O that lovely parraffin!

Soothed a bad flare up--in BOTH Hands today!

Had OT today

Hands were red--but it really helped.

Bonnie
Bonnie Brien - 28 Feb 2005 15:12 GMT
Anyone know where one can get inexpensive paraffin for paraffin baths

There is always a mark up at stores

Any ideas on where there may not be a huge mark up?

Bonnie
Bonnie Brien - 28 Feb 2005 17:05 GMT
Another place that has paraffin baths is JCPenney

However, I didn't see any boxes of the wax--sold seperately there

Bonnie
Jo Firey - 28 Feb 2005 17:41 GMT
> Anyone know where one can get inexpensive paraffin for paraffin baths
>
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>
> Bonnie

In the grocery store where they sell canning supplies.  You have to add
mineral oil to it to get the melt point right.  I'll look up the proportions
later.  I've got to get more wax too.

Jo
Bonnie Brien - 28 Feb 2005 19:47 GMT
Is mineral oil the same as Baby Oil, Jo?

Bonnie

I'm gonna also check with the OT gal too

If you have a Woodman's store--I think you can get it there too.

I only have 1 block left to add to it---it (the bath) came with 3 lbs.
of paraffin.

Bonnie
Gwen Love - 01 Mar 2005 00:59 GMT
Bonnie, mineral oil is not the same as baby oil.  It is a medical product.
Gwen

> Is mineral oil the same as Baby Oil, Jo?
>
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>
> Bonnie
Jo Firey - 01 Mar 2005 03:19 GMT
> Bonnie, mineral oil is not the same as baby oil.  It is a medical product.
> Gwen

That's what I used to think, but when I was doing the research earlier today
several articles used the terminology mineral oil (baby oil) indicating they
were the same thing.

And mineral oil is simply liquid paraffin.  It sounded like the more solid
the paraffin is the higher the melt point.  And the more mineral oil had
been "squeezed" out of it.  That  when you add the oil back it lowers the
melt point.

We have any chemists here?  Or petroleum engineers?

Jo
firechief - 01 Mar 2005 04:40 GMT
> several articles used the terminology mineral oil (baby oil)
> indicating they were the same thing.
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> more mineral oil had been "squeezed" out of it.  That  when
> you add the oil back it lowers the melt point.

What an education!  Never occurred to me what the source
of paraffin was.   Animal, vegetable or mineral? (Who admits
their age and remembers a radio and TV quiz show with
those clues?)

Here is what Mary's medical directory has:

paraffin (L. too little) A waxy, white, tasteless, odorless mixture
of sokid hydrocarbons obtained from petroleum; used as an
ointment base or wound covering.
  hard p.   Solid paraffin with a melting point between 45-60C.
  liquid p.    Mineral oil
  soft p.   Petrolatum

... Thesaures:  an ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary.
Nann Bell - 01 Mar 2005 12:41 GMT
> Bonnie, mineral oil is not the same as baby oil.  It is a medical product.
> Gwen

ummmm, actually my bottle of baby oil lists the ingredients as mineral oil
and fragrance.  I wouldn't recommend taking it for constipation though,
better go with the medical grade mineral oil for that.  

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Bonnie Brien - 03 Mar 2005 05:17 GMT
You also may want to try the internet for buying paraffin.  

When I run out , I'll look into that too

Bonnie
firechief - 01 Mar 2005 03:09 GMT
Bonnie Brien wrote and asked:

> Anyone know where one can get inexpensive paraffin
> for paraffin baths

If you don't insist on the scented aromatheraphy types,
you can find inexpensive paraffin in the home-canning
section of groceries stores and supermarkets.  Try
KMart, Target, Wally-Mart and other discounters.

> There is always a mark up at stores

Well, that is how they pay the rent, payroll, utilities,
taxes, insurance, business license fees, etc. etc.

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