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OTP:  Do Trojans have a shelf-life?

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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 01 Feb 2005 20:27 GMT
Our trojan horse is gone.  Either it had a shelf-life or one of our regular
anti-virus updates ate it.  We had been turning the computer off from 7-9 PM
every night (the time the Trojan started hitting the computer) and had no
problems except for those two hours.  Now the virus protection software is
not detecting it and a scan of the files does not find it.  Just wondered if
malicious stuff comes with a shelf-life.

DeeTee
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Diane - 01 Feb 2005 20:46 GMT
did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
talking about something else entirely??
glad the virus is gone, dee tee.

diane
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 01 Feb 2005 20:51 GMT
> did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
> talking about something else entirely??
> glad the virus is gone, dee tee.
>
> diane

Yezzim, I wondered that...

DeeTee, did you quarantine the trojan?  Was that Eastern time?  I've
noticed that I'm getting some weird stuff, and not going to "unknown"
sites, so I'm a bit curious.  It's possible that if you quarantined the
trojan, that the quarantine has a "shelf life", I know mine does (I
*think* it's 30 days on McAfee).

Smokie Darling (Annie)
CindyR - 01 Feb 2005 22:30 GMT
>> did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
>> talking about something else entirely??
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>
> Yezzim, I wondered that.

Me, too!

Cindy R.
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 02 Feb 2005 02:26 GMT
Nope - couldn't do anything with it.

And, Diane, it never occurred to me that trojan was also something else.  I
guess I'm just getting old.

DeeTee
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>> did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
>> talking about something else entirely??
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>
> Smokie Darling (Annie)
Ann - 01 Feb 2005 21:51 GMT
Me too, Diane.

Ann (ducking my head and blushing)
Caroline Marold - 01 Feb 2005 22:00 GMT
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> did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
> talking about something else entirely??
> glad the virus is gone, dee tee.
>
> diane

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Gwen Love - 01 Feb 2005 22:11 GMT
Diane, does that indicate what your mind is on???
Gwen

> did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
> talking about something else entirely??
> glad the virus is gone, dee tee.
>
> diane
d'huit - 02 Feb 2005 00:24 GMT
> did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
> talking about something else entirely??
> glad the virus is gone, dee tee.
>
> diane

ummm . . . yes, diane.   but, i'm not going there, no matter how tempted i
am to make a wise-a$$ remark.LOL

deetee, i think it has something to do with your anti-virus vault, cuz i've
had that happen too.

kate
Nann Bell - 02 Feb 2005 01:14 GMT
> did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
> talking about something else entirely??
> glad the virus is gone, dee tee.
>
> diane

heehee, I'm not telling what was going through my head!

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firechief - 02 Feb 2005 01:19 GMT
> did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think
> dee tee was talking about something else entirely??

USC Trojans?

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Mary Z - 02 Feb 2005 01:19 GMT
>did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
>talking about something else entirely??

Yes but I was afraid if I said something it might rub her the wrong
way.  (BEG)  This group always rises to the occasions!  

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RoseB - 02 Feb 2005 01:22 GMT
>>did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
>>talking about something else entirely??
>
>Yes but I was afraid if I said something it might rub her the wrong
>way.  (BEG)  This group always rises to the occasions!  

LOL
you are tooooooo clever!

Is it safe to discuss this here?

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kenny - 03 Feb 2005 00:02 GMT
>did anyone besides me read this subject heading and think dee tee was
>talking about something else entirely??
>glad the virus is gone, dee tee.
>
>diane

Well,,,,,,,I wasn't going to say a word.

~Kenny
spodosaurus - 02 Feb 2005 08:37 GMT
> Our trojan horse is gone.  Either it had a shelf-life or one of our regular
> anti-virus updates ate it.  We had been turning the computer off from 7-9 PM
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What do you mean "started hitting"? Was your firewall popping up an
alert that someone was trying to look for a known trojan port open on
your computer? If so, that does not mean that you had a trojan program
installed, only that someone was port scanning for anyone in your ip
range that might have a certain program on a certain open port.

Ari

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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 02 Feb 2005 13:37 GMT
No - we definitely had the trojan.  It was irc.backdoor.trojan and was in
the mspmspv.exe file.  At 7:00 PM sharp every night, Norton would give
warnings that we had a virus (about every 20 seconds).  It usually quit
about 8:20ish, so we just shut down between 7:00 and 9:00 PM.  We do a
complete deep scan twice a week.  For a long time it would tell us about the
virus and say that it could not isolate, quarantine or delete it.  We tried
manually several times and couldn't delete the file.  Yet, out of the clear
blue, it stopped.  The virus scans no longer found it, when we did a deep
scan of the file, it couldn't find it, and the alerts quit.  That's why I
thought maybe it had a shelf-life of some sort.

DeeTee
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>> Our trojan horse is gone.  Either it had a shelf-life or one of our
>> regular anti-virus updates ate it.  We had been turning the computer off
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>
> Ari
spodosaurus - 02 Feb 2005 18:27 GMT
> No - we definitely had the trojan.  It was irc.backdoor.trojan and was in
> the mspmspv.exe file.  At 7:00 PM sharp every night, Norton would give
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>
> DeeTee

Have you updated the virus definitions recently? What version of norton
are you using and is it mspmspv.exe or mspmspsv.exe? If it's the former,
it could be this virus:
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/trojchumb.html

If it does turn out to be this, I can assist further with finding you
removal instructions as well as recommending a good trojan horse
scanning program that, unlike most virus scanners, is dedicated solely
to trojan and variant detection as well as being staffed by real people
that respond to enquiries: http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/

Ari

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spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 02 Feb 2005 20:45 GMT
Ari - it was the former and it is gone now.  Thanks!

DeeTee
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>> No - we definitely had the trojan.  It was irc.backdoor.trojan and was in
>> the mspmspv.exe file.  At 7:00 PM sharp every night, Norton would give
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>
> Ari
 
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