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Diane - 22 Jan 2005 00:21 GMT ok, you might remember i have that slightly lowered WBC. i got my remicade in spite of that, then instantly got a sinus infection for which i'm just finishing up my zithromax. (got a neti pot too, finally!!)
well, my boyfriend, who lives about 6 miles from me, is very sick. temp of 101.3. he's on biaxin, but i don't think it's working. of course i couldn't persuade him to go to the doc this afternoon, and now it's nightime on a friday night and he's going to be snowed in tomorrow. he asked if he could come over here so he wasn't snowed in alone and sick on a road that doesn't get plowed (mine does) and he's on well water, so if the power goes out, he loses water. i said no! i'm a b*%^$h! he completely understood though and said he doesn't want me to get what he has, that it's really awful. i bought 4 gallons of water and some groceries and dropped them off at his door but i feel so selfish.
so my question is, how do you people who have suppressed immune systems and actually LIVE with others who get sick protect yourselves? or am i just being neurotic?
diane
Janet R - 22 Jan 2005 00:33 GMT I live with a pediatrician...so far I have been (knocking on wood) ok.
I have been told to have everyone in the house up to date on flu-shots and immunizations, etc. My son and husband just got over a bad chest/lung infection that I didn't get?
I only take mtx, pred, and plaq...not the RA stuff...that might be why.
Janet R
: ok, you might remember i have that slightly lowered WBC. i got my : remicade in spite of that, then instantly got a sinus infection for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] : : diane Jo Firey - 22 Jan 2005 00:36 GMT It helps a lot that I really don't have to be around others all that much. When I had an office I seldom say more than one or two clients a day. Now its more like maybe one a week. The grandkids to bring some colds home but not many. I'm too superstitious to say how long its been since I've had a cold. But I've got a couple of Z-PAc;s that are ready to expire. It helps that my family knows a simple cold can land me in the hospital and they stay away from me.
I also have made myself learn to keep my hands off my face and to keep them clean. Two best preventive things I know.
Jo
> ok, you might remember i have that slightly lowered WBC. i got my > remicade in spite of that, then instantly got a sinus infection for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > diane Diane - 22 Jan 2005 01:08 GMT well, i called and told him to come over. i'm putting him in the guestroom down the hall. i can't stand the thought of him snowed in and sick alone.
diane
Kelly Cobb - 22 Jan 2005 01:18 GMT I knew you'd cave. Good for you...and him. Get the virus killing kleenex, have him put his own dishes in the dishwasher, wash your hands a lot and feel secure in the knowledge that you've done the right thing. Oh, a string of garlic hanging off his doorknob wouldn't hurt, either.
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> well, i called and told him to come over. i'm putting him in the > guestroom down the hall. i can't stand the thought of him snowed in and > sick alone. > > diane Skip - 22 Jan 2005 02:26 GMT LOL Garlic!
Now tell me - what do you put on the door to attract a guy?
:) Skip
> I knew you'd cave. Good for you...and him. Get the virus killing kleenex, > have him put his own dishes in the dishwasher, wash your hands a lot and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > diane Janet R - 22 Jan 2005 04:09 GMT panties?
sorry, had to say it. Wonder Woman
: LOL Garlic! : [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : > > : > > diane Kelly Cobb - 22 Jan 2005 04:51 GMT I was gonna say it doesn't matter, but your answer is better.LOL
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> panties? > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > : > > > : > > diane d'huit - 22 Jan 2005 03:07 GMT > well, i called and told him to come over. i'm putting him in the > guestroom down the hall. i can't stand the thought of him snowed in and > sick alone. > > diane what a sweet ol' softie you are! no wonder he loves you.
if you don't have purell handy, use alcohol or alcohol wipes on things like door knobs, drawer pulls, frig door handle . . . discretely.LOL and don't barehandedly touch your face, no matter how much it might itch or tickle. use a kleenex to do that.
kelly's garlic is a nice touch. a garland of it around your neck might help you avoid a smooch or two and i bet he won't come close enough to breathe on you.<giggling and just teasing with all of this>
you're gonna be ok, sweetie. i'm glad you caved.
kate
Janet R - 22 Jan 2005 04:11 GMT good...just wash your hands alot...and spray him down with Lysol, LOL! Stand in the doorway and throw bottle water and food to him....keep your distance, hehe.
I'm sure you will be fine. Janet R
: well, i called and told him to come over. i'm putting him in the : guestroom down the hall. i can't stand the thought of him snowed in and : sick alone. : : diane Nann Bell - 22 Jan 2005 06:29 GMT > well, i called and told him to come over. i'm putting him in the > guestroom down the hall. i can't stand the thought of him snowed in and > sick alone. > > diane now I KNOW you love him...........
you are a good hearted woman, as we already knew.
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> well, i called and told him to come over. i'm putting him in the > guestroom down the hall. i can't stand the thought of him snowed in and > sick alone. > > diane Nann Bell - 22 Jan 2005 01:21 GMT > so my question is, how do you people who have suppressed immune systems > and actually LIVE with others who get sick protect yourselves? or am i > just being neurotic? > > diane I wash my hands A LOT and we don't kiss each other when one is sick, at least not on the mouth. And when one of us is known to be in a contagious period, we try to avoid breathing on the other as well. (no front-to-front snuggling!) And I ALWAYS get my flu shot and Mike gets his except at times like this year's shortage. Still, 2 years ago I did get that nasty Norwalk virus after cleaning up after Mike. Must not have washed my hands as well as I thought.
As for feeling selfish, you DID try to get him to contact the doctor again today and remember, you won't be ANY help at all to him if you get sick again. At least now you can help from a distance and check up on him by phone and once he's past the contagious point, you'll be well enough to do more for him. And when the roads are clear, you'll be able to bring him care packages. You love him, but you gotta love yourself as well. It gets complicated sometimes.
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Diane - 22 Jan 2005 01:43 GMT uh oh. . .nann's right! i'll send him home now. :-)
diane
Lee Thompson-Herbert - 22 Jan 2005 08:10 GMT >> so my question is, how do you people who have suppressed immune systems >> and actually LIVE with others who get sick protect yourselves? or am i [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >virus after cleaning up after Mike. Must not have washed my hands as well as >I thought. I keep pump-sized bottles of hand sanitizer around the house and make sure to use them. And George is now trained to cough into his elbow/forearm instead of his hand. If I can get _him_ to start using the hand sanitizer more consistantly, it'll be even better. We also use antibacterial soap and he loads the dishwasher when he's sick (I don't touch the dirty dishes). I _unload_ the dishwasher, so he doesn't touch the _clean_ dishes if he's sick. And we sleep in a king-size bed with four cats, so it's easy enough to not sleep right in each other's faces if he's got a cold. ;} The cats will ensure that if nothing else. They get between us and slowly shove both of us off the bed.
Out in public, I don't shake hands. My hands are too mauled for that anyway, and it's the fastest way to spread germs. Despite the fact that I have contact with quite a lot of people and colds spread like wildfire through the local dancing community, I've mostly manage to avoid catching the various nasties that have come through this year. I _did_ skip doing Dickens Fair entirely this year, even as a visitor, which probably saved me at least one cold. Just about every performer there ended up with the horrible creeping crud that lasted 2-3 weeks. I also managed to avoid catching whatever my parents and brother caught over christmas, but they were very careful to try and not pass it to me as well. I carry a little bottle of hand sanitzer in my bag with me, but I confess I haven't been very good about using it consistantly. I've mostly been lucky this year.
However, after all that, I've finally caught the evil cold that George brought home last week. Took me a week to finally come down with it, and that with close contact. After all, we do still sleep in the same bed, even if the cats try and wedge in between us. I can't sleep turned away from him all night, since my bad shoulder won't let me. So unless one of us decamps into the spare bedroom, it's still a risk.
Compared to what was happening when I was on Enbrel, or worse when I was on MTX/Arava/Azulfidine, the Humira actually doesn't seem to make me terribly susceptible to respiratory infections. When I was on Enbrel, I could count on getting a serious ear infection within 24 hours of coming down with a cold. Right now, one ear is a little stopped up, but not painfully and it's occasionally popping so it's not totally blocked. And other than the one evil abcess that I had to have lanced (that may have started when I was still on Enbrel), I haven't had any real skin infection problems either. Though _that_ could be because I'm more paranoid about tending tiny cuts and scratches now...
Who knows, by Monday I may be running to the doctor for antibiotics too... I'm still on prednisone and Singulair, a leukotrine inhibitor that sometimes increases the risk of ear infections. The combination of Singulair and Enbrel landed me in the emergency clinic early one Saturday morning with two bloody eardrums. I'd had stopped up ears on Friday afternoon, which became an earache by that evening, then the type of pain that 2 Percocet just barely dulled by about 2am. I'd never had an ear infection develop that fast before. After that, I just knew to run and get antibiotics the moment my ears started blocking up. The Humira doesn't seem to be nearly as horrible in that regard.
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spodosaurus - 22 Jan 2005 08:17 GMT >>>so my question is, how do you people who have suppressed immune systems >>>and actually LIVE with others who get sick protect yourselves? or am i [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > problems either. Though _that_ could be because I'm more paranoid about > tending tiny cuts and scratches now... The cats, even indoor only cats, can end up bringing unpleasant bugs onto the bed. We were told, when my counts were far more acceptable, that animals on the bed is a major nono. Eventually the little furry bastards just wore us down (or we wore ourselves down) and we let them back on the bed.
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spodosaurus - 22 Jan 2005 05:40 GMT > ok, you might remember i have that slightly lowered WBC. i got my > remicade in spite of that, then instantly got a sinus infection for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > diane I am very immunocomprimised. Unfortunately, my wife works in a situation where she's exposed to every bug that happens to be going around at the time. The only thing we can do to attempt at preventing transfer to me is be very careful with intimate contact (no kissing when she's not feeling well), food preparation, lots of hand washing, and trying to prevent droplet infection (as much as possible) when she coughs or sneezes.
Beyond that, I have to be very careful with food preparation and avoid fast food as well as restaurants. I tend not to like going to shopping centres such as big malls because there's always someone there who is sick and exposing everyone else (people just can't wall themselves up every time they get a cold). I've found that daily physical activity and vigourous exercise help in preventing infection, but then there's the added risk from sharing equipment at the gym to balance that aspect out.
You were right to spend a few days apart while he's sick.
Cheers,
Ari
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Caroline Marold - 22 Jan 2005 06:59 GMT Separate kitchen towels, separate toothpaste tubes and if he is really sick - separate beds. Duckie
> ok, you might remember i have that slightly lowered WBC. i got my > remicade in spite of that, then instantly got a sinus infection for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > diane
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spodosaurus - 22 Jan 2005 06:55 GMT > Separate kitchen towels, I use paper towels here. Much safer for me.
> separate toothpaste tubes And toothbrush holders! I keep mine well away from the sink in a container on its own. People washing their hands aren't always aware of how far they fling water. The toothbrush holder should be cleaned periodically, and toothbrushes replaced monthly.
For people who are neutropenic, avoid powered toothbrushes and use listerine for 30 seconds as a substitute for daily flossing (though some flossing is usually inevitable, daily flossing increases the risk of oral lesions and recent studies have showed that daily listerine rinsing can be just as effective).
> and if he is really > sick - separate beds. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> just being neurotic? >> diane
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Nicole H - 22 Jan 2005 10:59 GMT Don't feel bad. He's a grown man who has a cold and now acts like a baby. All men do when they're sick. We're actually sick all the time. You have every right to protect yourself. I worked at an elementary school. Never got the normal stuff but got weird infections... even impetigo. I tell my kids that they have to stay healthy so I don't get sick.... wash your hands, sterilize dishes in the dishwasher and that's about it. Everyone takes Vit C during cold and flu season.... purel is everywhere, hand wipes are dispensed, etc. hang in there nicole
> ok, you might remember i have that slightly lowered WBC. i got my > remicade in spite of that, then instantly got a sinus infection for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > diane debbie m. - 22 Jan 2005 14:05 GMT Diane,
I just had a great idea. Tell your boyfriend he can come over if he brings a supply of chocolate with him. LOL
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> ok, you might remember i have that slightly lowered WBC. i got my > remicade in spite of that, then instantly got a sinus infection for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > diane Kimmy - 22 Jan 2005 14:46 GMT If you're a bad girlfriend, I'm a HORRIBLE wife. ;)
I've been sick this week - felt a little better yesterday and ran to the store after I dropped the kids at school. I was ever so careful to get everything on my list and a few extras so when the snow hit - we'd be warm and cozy inside and wouldn't have to deal with the snow till Monday. I popped a couple tylenol and hopped in bed early last nite, planning on sleeping in this glorious Saturday morning....
My dh (take it anyway you want) has surprised me an extra weekend home. All I've gotta do is drive a half hour both ways to pick him up. Roads are really bad he says...(roads? wouldn't know cuz I can't SEE 'em)...You'll be fine, use the 4 wheel drive, he says (I hope there's nothing more to than pushing a button, cuz I've never used it before)..Bring a kid with you in case something happens, he says (So - In case I total the truck and die on the road I can take a kid with me?)
I'm sitting here stretching my coffee hoping the snow plow will at least hit our street once before I leave. Yes, I'm a bad wife and don't care who knows it.
Kimmy
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Kelly Cobb - 22 Jan 2005 15:01 GMT You're better than I am, I'd probably surprise him by saying "there's a blizzard coming, snow and ice on the roads, I love ya, but you're staying put".lol
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> If you're a bad girlfriend, I'm a HORRIBLE wife. ;) > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Which way do ya wanna go? > http://www.rheumorweb.com/gimpfests Jo Firey - 22 Jan 2005 21:51 GMT But I'm a good grandma. Sort of.
My left hand has been seriously hurting and everything else aches. The weather sucks. Not near as cold as elsewhere, but the fog just won't go away. So last night, once everyone was accounted for I got my jammies on and crawled into bed. Fortunately it was so early I didn't take my sleeping pill. That was about eight.
At eleven Charlie wakes me up with "you have to get dressed and go get Steven now". He couldn't go as he had been enjoying a much deserved evening with HBO and several beers. Seems Steven's ride didn't really get his drivers license (or insurance and registration for his car) and they needed adults to collect each of his passengers.
Fog so thick you had to use windshield wipers, head pretty thick too as I'd been sound asleep, kid pretty thick as he couldn't see what the big deal was, or why he shouldn't go back out with the unarrested passengers. UGH.
And he has the nerve to wake me up this morning to ask if I'd cashed his paycheck yet, that he only gave me before I went to bed last night.
How old do they have to me before its just murder and not child abuse? (He's fifteen)
Jo
> If you're a bad girlfriend, I'm a HORRIBLE wife. ;) > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Which way do ya wanna go? > http://www.rheumorweb.com/gimpfests Kimmy - 23 Jan 2005 02:34 GMT How old do they have to me before its just murder and not child abuse? (He's fifteen)
Jo
18 - but then you've gotta worry about where to hide the body...
Kimmy <--who's got one of those "the world revolves around me" 15 year olds...I feel for ya.
Caroline Marold - 23 Jan 2005 22:23 GMT Do you have a basement and is it dirt floor or cement? quack
> How old do they have to me before its just murder and not child abuse? > (He's fifteen) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Kimmy <--who's got one of those "the world revolves around me" 15 year > olds...I feel for ya.
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Janet R - 23 Jan 2005 03:37 GMT Well Jo....I have a 17 year old....and I am sitting in my recliner all day coughing and cringing...look like death.
And he wonders why I can't burn a cd for him?
When you find out that age limit can you let me know!?
Janet R
: But I'm a good grandma. Sort of. : [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] : > Which way do ya wanna go? : > http://www.rheumorweb.com/gimpfests Jo Firey - 23 Jan 2005 04:16 GMT The big darling (Can't say little since he past six foot) just left a little while ago all dressed up for a school dance. He and another "innocent" from last night looking like GQ models and carrying flowers for the girlfriends.
I even got a hug before they left. My daughter, his mom has phone and car duty for the evening so we are enjoying a quiet evening.
Jo
> Well Jo....I have a 17 year old....and I am sitting in my recliner all > day coughing and cringing...look like death. [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > : > Which way do ya wanna go? > : > http://www.rheumorweb.com/gimpfests Janet R - 23 Jan 2005 05:12 GMT Mine just walked in from a party....where he met a pretty girl! Ohhhhh, the stars in his eyes. I remember those days....
Janet R
: The big darling (Can't say little since he past six foot) just left a little : while ago all dressed up for a school dance. He and another "innocent" from [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] : > : > Which way do ya wanna go? : > : > http://www.rheumorweb.com/gimpfests firechief - 23 Jan 2005 07:32 GMT > Well Jo....I have a 17 year old....and I am sitting in my recliner > all day coughing and cringing...look like death. > > And he wonders why I can't burn a cd for him? > > When you find out that age limit can you let me know!? 17 -- if you sign the parental consent for him to enlist in any branch of the military. Then he's considered to be emancipated.
Janet R - 23 Jan 2005 16:27 GMT He is wearing his Marines shirt this weekend....he wants to be an officer and shoot stuff!
Such lofty goals!
Janet R
: > Well Jo....I have a 17 year old....and I am sitting in my recliner : > all day coughing and cringing...look like death. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : 17 -- if you sign the parental consent for him to enlist in any : branch of the military. Then he's considered to be emancipated. Jo Firey - 23 Jan 2005 18:13 GMT >> Well Jo....I have a 17 year old....and I am sitting in my recliner >> all day coughing and cringing...look like death. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 17 -- if you sign the parental consent for him to enlist in any > branch of the military. Then he's considered to be emancipated. Will the army still take kids without a highschool diploma? I really doubt any other branch of the service will.
And I'm serious. The first of their close circle of friends just got kicked out of the last version of school available to him. And it truly worries me because now he has even more time on his hands and is bored and of course looking for playmates that should be in school to keep him entertained.
Jo
firechief - 24 Jan 2005 06:05 GMT Joe answered a question:
>> 17 -- if you sign the parental consent for him to enlist in any >> branch of the military. Then he's considered to be emancipated. And Jo Firey replied:
> Will the army still take kids without a highschool diploma? I really > doubt any other branch of the service will. I don't know if they still have the "delayed entry" program where a high school senior can join (I did, and my sons did). Since there is a pay hike at the 6-month point, by the time I graduated and began active duty, I was earning more than those who had just enlisted. Ditto with 2 of my sons, because of their 17th birthdays were more than 6 months before their graduations.
d'huit - 23 Jan 2005 07:00 GMT > How old do they have to me before its just murder and not child abuse? > (He's fifteen) > > Jo ROTFL! gee, and all these years i thought it wasn't considered murder nor child abuse if they were a teenager.
kate (i thought it was considered "mitigating circumstances".)
>> If you're a bad girlfriend, I'm a HORRIBLE wife. ;) >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> Which way do ya wanna go? >> http://www.rheumorweb.com/gimpfests Nann Bell - 23 Jan 2005 13:05 GMT > And he has the nerve to wake me up this morning to ask if I'd cashed his > paycheck yet, that he only gave me before I went to bed last night. > > How old do they have to me before its just murder and not child abuse? > (He's fifteen) get a lot of folks who've raised teenagers on your jury, and I think you'd get off with justifiable homicide!
(BTW, California folks, that wasn't an earthquake causing that tremor this morning, it was Jo trying to straighten out her grandson!)
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Nann Bell - 23 Jan 2005 13:06 GMT > I'm sitting here stretching my coffee hoping the snow plow will at least hit > our street once before I leave. Yes, I'm a bad wife and don't care who knows > it. I'm even willing to call you wise. I had to make two round trips between our house and the church today over a period of almost 4 hours. Never could see my footprints from the previous trip. Actually, the snow waxed and waned, but the wind was blowing it everywhere. Mighty glad I didn't have to drive anywhere. (the church is 2 blocks from the house so we walk unless we have heavy stuff to carry.) I might have driven out to get Mike, but he sure as hell would have driven back home!
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DianeW - 23 Jan 2005 06:39 GMT > ok, you might remember i have that slightly lowered WBC. i got my > remicade in spite of that, then instantly got a sinus infection for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > diane DianeW - 23 Jan 2005 09:23 GMT Diane - I know what you mean - I felt like a bad wife when Wayne was sick over Christmas and then I ended up getting it any way. I had pneumonia from a chest cold in just 36 hours! I made him sleep alone on the other side of the house (and it was Christmas too!) We lysol the phone or give him his own to use and he's not allowed to use the common remote. He uses the guest bath when he's sick. We santize the dishes and towels. Am I neurotic? maybe but hey, I get so much sicker than the boys do. Poor guy! It's worked other years but this years junk is very very bad. It's coming for you one way or another!
My Mom went into the ER yesterday and I didn't go with her. There were 40 folks there with the flu I was told. I talked to the doctors and nurses frequently by pbone and went to see her tonight when she was in a private room. She's had another stroke, by the way.
We can't take the risk.
DianeW
> ok, you might remember i have that slightly lowered WBC. i got my > remicade in spite of that, then instantly got a sinus infection for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > diane spodosaurus - 23 Jan 2005 09:34 GMT > My Mom went into the ER yesterday and I didn't go with her. There were > 40 folks there with the flu I was told. I talked to the doctors and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > DianeW I know exactly what you mean. I've been in situations where I needed to go to the ER, but instead waited for the following day to see one of my doctors because the risk of infection in the ER, especially waiting around to be seen with people coughing and sneezing etc, is just too great.
Ari
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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. To jump to the end of the story, as a result of this I need a bone marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor: http://www.abmdr.org.au/ http://www.marrow.org/
Diane - 23 Jan 2005 18:57 GMT diane w, sorry to hear about your mom's stroke. you must have felt crummy having her in the er and being unable to go with her. keep us posted on how she's doing.
the update on john is that he's really been sick. he's in the guest room and has only gotten out of bed to use the bathroom. . . a lot. his symptoms are fever of 101.5 if he doesn't take tylenol; 99.4 if he does. body aches. no congestion and no coughing, but cramping and bloating (which might be from the biaxin?) i was ready to take him to the er last night in the snow, but he refused, of course, and maybe wisely. he's a bit better today but just wiped out. my hands have never been so clean.
diane
Squirrely - 31 Jan 2005 16:44 GMT Jo,
How are you doing now. I was sure glad to see the sun the last two days. Boy 2 1/2 weeks without sun was too much for me. I hate this fog stuff.
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Squirrely Jo
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