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Caroline Marold - 20 Jan 2005 23:18 GMT Guy at work was able to drag some though not all of info off my computer. sigh I am so relieved. Lost some stuff but not all that important. Now just need to get it repaired. Duckie
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Nann Bell - 21 Jan 2005 02:36 GMT > Guy at work was able to drag some though not all of > info off my computer. sigh I am so relieved. Lost some > stuff but not all that important. Now just need to get > it repaired. > Duckie Good deal. Good first step!
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d'huit - 21 Jan 2005 06:26 GMT > Guy at work was able to drag some though not all of info off my computer. > sigh I am so relieved. Lost some stuff but not all that important. Now > just need to get it repaired. > Duckie boy! you're the get to it and get it done, lady! i'm impressed! i'm glad the important stuff was retrieved for you and that you are relieved.
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Mary Z - 21 Jan 2005 14:52 GMT >Guy at work was able to drag some though not all of >info off my computer. sigh I am so relieved. Lost some >stuff but not all that important. Now just need to get >it repaired. Was that your Mac or PC? Good you were able to recover some stuff.
I have a question for you. My mother is starting to use computers and she is extremely non-techie. She is the type of person who would never keep up virus protection or a firewall. She would not know what to do with an update and she rarely gets on the internet so keeping virus protection up to date would be difficult. She has an ancient computer that is so slow it is frustrating to work with. She doesn't like the computer but part of the reason is because the computer is so old and slow (233mghz). I was thinking about an Apple computer for her. I think Apples are more intuitive and might be easier for her to use and not worry about virus protection. My only concern is she likes to write letters to folks, how is the conversion to a word doc? The new minis come with appleworks and I know the program does some conversions I wondered about how easy it was. The conversion has to be dirt simple, my sister will be living near by and she knows Mac pretty well so she can help if something goes wrong. You work cross platform I would be interested in your thoughts. All she really does is word processing and e-mail she doesn't know anything about the internet, although she says she might want to use it occasionally. Funny she was interested in buying a new encyclopedia I chuckled and said you can get it all off the internet for free. I was thinking about the new mini, she likes small minimalist straight forward stuff. -- MZ
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firechief - 21 Jan 2005 16:26 GMT > She has an ancient computer that is so slow it is frustrating to > work with. She doesn't like the computer but part of the reason > is because the computer is so old and slow (233mghz). A faster CPU's speed doesn't help you read or type faster, or upload/download faster. CPU speed is a concern only if you are crunching numbers, involved in CAD/graphics, burning CDs on a regular schedule, or trying to keep up with the Jones.
This is Mary's computer, and it is 233Mhz. For 2 years we handled the square dance association's insurance program for 700+ dancers using it.
A Barna - 21 Jan 2005 21:04 GMT > I have a question for you. My mother is starting to use > computers and she is extremely non-techie. She is the type of > person who would never keep up virus protection or a firewall. If she is going to be using dial-up just have her computer setup to start the anti virus & firewall when the dialing program is started.
> She would not know what to do with an update and she rarely > gets on the internet so keeping virus protection up to date > would be difficult. That can be done automagicly so she doesn't even need to know it is happening.
> She has an ancient computer that is so > slow it is frustrating to work with. Dump the extra stuff that is starting when it is started. Depending on what operating system the computer has (windows 3.11 ,98?) usually a [ctrl]+[alt]+[del] should tell you what is running. Get a copy of Start Cop to get the computer set for her or edit with MSCONFIG.EXE to remove excess stuff from starting. Start Cop is from PC Mag., http://www.pcmag.com/utilities
> She doesn't like the computer but part of the reason >is because the computer is so old and slow (233mghz). 233 mhz isn't slow. Operating systems are what slows down a computer.
> I was thinking about an Apple > computer for her. I think Apples are more intuitive and > might be easier for her to use and not worry about virus > protection. My only concern is she likes to write letters to > folks, how is the conversion to a word doc? She doesn't need to use a word processor to write letters. Her computer should have Note Pad & Word Pad & either are easy to use starter programs & either will print clean letters.
> The new minis come > with appleworks and I know the program does some conversions I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > anything about the internet, although she says she might want > to use it occasionally. Just make sure she doesn't use IE or OE & she shouldn't have any problems with the internet.
> Funny she was interested in buying a > new encyclopedia I chuckled and said you can get it all off > the internet for free. I was thinking about the new mini, > she likes small minimalist straight forward stuff. -- MZ http://www.apple.com/macmini/ Nice but, spend $500 & you still need a monitor, keyboard & mouse unless the ones on her old computer are compatible, and don't forget the printer to print letters.
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Mike-UK - 21 Jan 2005 22:01 GMT > > She doesn't like the computer but part of the reason > >is because the computer is so old and slow (233mghz). > > 233 mhz isn't slow. Operating systems are what slows down a computer. 233Mhz! Power-PC!
Mine? P90CPU 64MbRAM 56kDialUp. Slightly slow on the graphics with the 4Mb S3Virge card, but running with graphics off on the browser until wanted covers this one.
And I'm STILL running the HUGE default do-it-all kernel! (A strip-down recompile is next on the 2do list, THEN watch it fly! :)
> She doesn't need to use a word processor to write letters. Her > computer should have Note Pad & Word Pad & either are easy to use > starter programs & either will print clean letters. Doesn't Windows come with Write or WordPad?
> Just make sure she doesn't use IE or OE & she shouldn't have any > problems with the internet. Make sure to get a firewall that lets you block applications as the IE stuff that runs in the background regardless (along with other spyware) can sneak out and "phone home" without you knowing what its done, or where it connected to.
Better still, www.slackware.com. :)
> > Funny she was interested in buying a > > new encyclopedia I chuckled and said you can get it all off [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > unless the ones on her old computer are compatible, and don't > forget the printer to print letters. Or...
Spend about 50 dollars on an old "junkbox" like my P90, install Slackware (for free) and have some fun learning how things work while you're at it. You might be able to get someone who thinks a 1Ghz PC is "old" to let you have something they think is "junk" from free too. Tada! :)
P.S. And you won't need JavaScript either! [Ducks :]
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Caroline Marold - 22 Jan 2005 06:45 GMT It was my PC that crashed [by the way it is the disc which will need to be replaced. HP is sending one as we speak.] When a Mac crashes like that, if you can boot to a CD, then you can get to the desktop and drag all you need to save to save a zip drive to save. A PC won't let you do that. I have no firewall or virus protection on the mac although the automatic update feature has recently been doing many critical updates. Like I said -- automatic and I don't have to think about it. I have Microsoft Word loaded on my mac. It is an old copy which runs on Classic or 9.2OS. The new machines come with OS X. I have my machine set to load the other operating system when I run an older program. Not sure how that will work on the newest computers. Since not everyone can yet buy all new software for OS X, then they have been letting the computers run both. I don't have appleworks so not sure what it is. We used to have something odd at work that was impossible to use and never translated well but not sure what that program was. Now remember that was a really old operating system. With OS X, I should be able to link the PC to the mac to drag info off one system to the other but so far have not figured out how. I like the dock on the mac and I love Expose which allows you to get to the desktop easily. I love Safari which is apples's answer to IE. I do all my email on the mac. Downsides, lot's of web sites don't like the mac at all because they haven't bother to check their site on anything but IE. Never occurs to them that someone might use something else. Having said that, lot's of programs only work on a Windows operating system. Think of Myst at the moment. And just recently I was trying to work on closet stuff at ClosetMaid and they had a design thing which only would work on a PC. In a perfect world, I think I would be totally mac but there are times when you just need the pc. So I haven't really answered you, have I? lol I really like the mac and the new operating system is very stable. I guess I would say mac as long as your sister is there to help. I have my mother on a pc cause the closest help only knows pc. Duckie
> Was that your Mac or PC? Good you were able to recover some stuff. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Visit my website: > http://www.mzuschlag.com
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Mike-UK - 22 Jan 2005 10:10 GMT > Downsides, lot's of web sites don't like the mac at all > because they haven't bother to check their site on > anything but IE. Never occurs to them that someone > might use something else... There ARE standards y'know...
http://validator.w3.org/
"Best viewed with" = "Click here to create a website" application deployed by the "WebMaster", and he can't fix it coz he knows bugger all about that which he clicks.
All one has to do is comply with standards and all will be well across the board. To date, there is only one company that actively seeks to compromise those standards. Award yourself a point if you can figure out why they would do this.
If you hit a page that screws up in your browser, try turning off things like graphics support, CSS support, JavaScript, CERTAINLY Active-X, and maybe consider installing something like the Lynx text-only browser so you can at least get the content if the site is important to you.
http://lynx.isc.org/
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Don Kirkman - 22 Jan 2005 23:03 GMT It seems to me I heard somewhere that Mike-UK wrote in article <Pine.LNX.4.58.0501221000340.190@C90.svfuvan.arg>:
>> Downsides, lot's of web sites don't like the mac at all >> because they haven't bother to check their site on >> anything but IE. Never occurs to them that someone >> might use something else...
>There ARE standards y'know...
>http://validator.w3.org/
>"Best viewed with" = "Click here to create a website" >application deployed by the "WebMaster", and he can't fix it >coz he knows bugger all about that which he clicks.
>All one has to do is comply with standards and all will be >well across the board. To date, there is only one company >that actively seeks to compromise those standards. Award >yourself a point if you can figure out why they would do >this.
>If you hit a page that screws up in your browser, try >turning off things like graphics support, CSS support, >JavaScript, CERTAINLY Active-X, and maybe consider >installing something like the Lynx text-only browser so you >can at least get the content if the site is important to >you.
>http://lynx.isc.org/ Good advice.
Sometimes it seems that a site manager programs specifically for IE, cheating a little bit on the standards, but other times they write standard-compliant HTML and then (stupidly, IMO) insert a sniffer to check specifically if the user has IE for a browser; some are broadminded and also check for Navigator. :-) They forget how many people now have moved to Firefox, Mozilla, Lynx (there's a name out of the past!) and Opera, and other browsers. It's at its worst when it's your bank or a government office you can't reach without starting up IE.
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kenny - 23 Jan 2005 04:20 GMT >It seems to me I heard somewhere that Mike-UK wrote in article ><Pine.LNX.4.58.0501221000340.190@C90.svfuvan.arg>: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >the past!) and Opera, and other browsers. It's at its worst when it's >your bank or a government office you can't reach without starting up IE. Hi Don
I downloaded Firefox a few days ago and use it as my default browser now. I've been able to do my banking with it no problem but can't guarantee it will work for all banks. I'm using DSL through Earthlink and it sped up 4 times over what IE does. I was amazed. The thing that gets me is Earthlink does not support Thunderbird at all. Tried to configure Thunderbird all evening the other day and never had any luck with it. Called Earthlink Tech service next day and they told me they didn't support it at all but I can access the newsgroups with it. Go figure. Even the Tech guy was surprised..... Installed it on the computer that I run off cable and everything worked fine. Didn't have any trouble configuring Thunderbird at all for that PC. So far, I really like Firefox.
~Kenny
Cooly - 23 Jan 2005 07:04 GMT I've been using Firefox and Thunderbird for my defaults for a while and wouldn't go back. Have you discovered the tabbed windows in Firefox Kenny, they're great when you need to have two or more sites open at the same time. I'm called for 2:30AM on a coal bucket. I bet you miss that don't you? Cooly
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> really like Firefox. > > ~Kenny kenny - 25 Jan 2005 23:04 GMT >I've been using Firefox and Thunderbird for my defaults for a while and >wouldn't go back. Have you discovered the tabbed windows in Firefox [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> ~Kenny OMG Cooly, I'm glad I don't have to take those type calls anymore. Had all I wanted and don't miss them at all<G> I haven't had any trouble with sites I need to remain open in Firefox. I'm still enjoying it immensely right now and a lot of people I know are using it or getting it. Even my son is using it and he likes it as much as I do. Sure has cut out a lot of the background ads you pick up over Internet Exporer that you don't even know are there until you check it. I won't use IE except in a rare case where I just have too.
~Kenny
Don Kirkman - 23 Jan 2005 21:26 GMT It seems to me I heard somewhere that kenny wrote in article <cn86v0ldc9o22bg8ae1fd5kve3v66r9g92@4ax.com>:
>>It seems to me I heard somewhere that Mike-UK wrote in article >><Pine.LNX.4.58.0501221000340.190@C90.svfuvan.arg>:
>>>> Downsides, lot's of web sites don't like the mac at all >>>> because they haven't bother to check their site on >>>> anything but IE. Never occurs to them that someone >>>> might use something else...
>>>There ARE standards y'know...
>>>http://validator.w3.org/
>>>"Best viewed with" = "Click here to create a website" >>>application deployed by the "WebMaster", and he can't fix it >>>coz he knows bugger all about that which he clicks. [...]
>>Good advice. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>the past!) and Opera, and other browsers. It's at its worst when it's >>your bank or a government office you can't reach without starting up IE.
>I downloaded Firefox a few days ago and use it as my default browser >now. I've been able to do my banking with it no problem but can't >guarantee it will work for all banks. I'm using DSL through Earthlink >and it sped up 4 times over what IE does. I was amazed. I've used Opera for several years with good results. More and more sites seem to be accepting other browsers; most of my access problems were with MS for updates and things, but nowadays very few sites lock me out (probably Opera and the page guys both have made some coding adjustments). I keep IE installed, but use it almost solely for MS updates, nothing else.
> The thing that >gets me is Earthlink does not support Thunderbird at all. Tried to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >any trouble configuring Thunderbird at all for that PC. So far, I >really like Firefox. I keep hearing that many ISP support techs say "we don't support xxx browser/newsreader/email client," probably because they don't know anything about the program in question but also don't know that those clients can be used on almost any ISP (except maybe still not on AOL?).
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Mike-UK - 24 Jan 2005 00:33 GMT > I keep hearing that many ISP support techs say "we don't support xxx > browser/newsreader/email client," probably because they don't know > anything about the program in question but also don't know that those > clients can be used on almost any ISP (except maybe still not on AOL?). All ISPs should support standard protocols and processes. There should be no problem with any standards-compliant access software.
Oh, you mentioned AOL. All bets are off! ;\
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kenny - 25 Jan 2005 23:11 GMT >It seems to me I heard somewhere that kenny wrote in article ><cn86v0ldc9o22bg8ae1fd5kve3v66r9g92@4ax.com>: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >anything about the program in question but also don't know that those >clients can be used on almost any ISP (except maybe still not on AOL?). I can't believe what AOL is doing to their clients about the newsgroups. I've never used AOL but if I had it now I'd drop it like a hot potatoe. Newsgroups are over half the internet to me. Don't know what the hell their thinking. If Agent will work on AOL that's where I'd be. Get use to it and it's easy to use. I'd still think about dumping AOL though. Just my choice.
~Kenny
Mike-UK - 24 Jan 2005 00:29 GMT > >If you hit a page that screws up in your browser, try > >turning off things like graphics support, CSS support, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > the past!) and Opera, and other browsers. It's at its worst when it's > your bank or a government office you can't reach without starting up IE. Lynx, probably the REAL fastest browser on the planet, is a name from the PAST? Take a look a the link. ;)
On your point about "sniffers"... IF a webpge is written to comply with internationally recognised (and long established) standards, and not just something that IE's HUGE "quirks-mode" bloat can do something with, then whatever browser you use should make no difference.
Many people have different requirements, and the idea behind HTML is that these requirements can be applied at the user-end. Anything that buggers this process/function up is quite simply FAULTY.
Unfortunately, such faulty pages are still all too common thanks in no small measure to a certain browser supplier. The sooner people stop using it and demand that "webmasters" (an egotistical term if there ever was one) get their acts together, the sooner we can have the universal access the internet was ALWAYS supposed to provide, regardless of user-end software/configurations etc.
Now what was the question again? ;\
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Don Kirkman - 24 Jan 2005 19:55 GMT It seems to me I heard somewhere that Mike-UK wrote in article <Pine.LNX.4.58.0501240019090.175@C90.svfuvan.arg>:
>> Sometimes it seems that a site manager programs specifically for IE, >> cheating a little bit on the standards, but other times they write [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> the past!) and Opera, and other browsers. It's at its worst when it's >> your bank or a government office you can't reach without starting up IE.
>Lynx, probably the REAL fastest browser on the planet, is a >name from the PAST? Take a look a the link. ;) I heard of Lynx (assuming it's the same browser) even before I began browsing (I've always concentrated more on newsgroups than on the Web, even now); it was one of the browsers mentioned in a book I bought when I first got on the Internet some ten years or so ago, along with Mosaic. I started newsreading with Chameleon and emailing with a very early Eudora. For anyone interested, there's a nice summary of browser history at http://livinginternet.com/w/wi_browse.htm.
>On your point about "sniffers"... IF a webpge is written to >comply with internationally recognised (and long >established) standards, and not just something that IE's >HUGE "quirks-mode" bloat can do something with, then >whatever browser you use should make no difference.
>Many people have different requirements, and the idea behind >HTML is that these requirements can be applied at the >user-end. Anything that buggers this process/function up is >quite simply FAULTY.
>Unfortunately, such faulty pages are still all too common >thanks in no small measure to a certain browser supplier. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >internet was ALWAYS supposed to provide, regardless of >user-end software/configurations etc. Yes, I agree with you, Mike, but there are still a few managers who include specific checks for IE (and sometimes Navigator) in their HTML and won't serve the contents unless they get the "right" answer.
FWIW, Opera can tell a sniffer that it's IE or Mozilla, and that often unlocks things, depending on how the site is coded.
I agree about the ideals, but as a practical matter some people have to access their banks, their investment managers, or their business connections, and can't wait for all sites to come into compliance. Hence the complaints.
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Mike-UK - 24 Jan 2005 09:49 GMT > >Lynx, probably the REAL fastest browser on the planet, is a > >name from the PAST? Take a look a the link. ;) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Eudora. For anyone interested, there's a nice summary of browser > history at http://livinginternet.com/w/wi_browse.htm. Cheers, I'll take a peek in the morning.
> >Unfortunately, such faulty pages are still all too common > >thanks in no small measure to a certain browser supplier. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > include specific checks for IE (and sometimes Navigator) in their HTML > and won't serve the contents unless they get the "right" answer. Curious. I've never had a page refused, even using Lynx. Mind you, there is NO WAY I'd use internet banking and such like, so maybe thats why.
> FWIW, Opera can tell a sniffer that it's IE or Mozilla, and that often > unlocks things, depending on how the site is coded. Same comments as above. My Opera says it is Opera.
> I agree about the ideals, but as a practical matter some people have to > access their banks, their investment managers, or their business > connections, and can't wait for all sites to come into compliance. > Hence the complaints. I see. Its something outside what I'd trust an internet connection with then. Ta for the info. :)
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Nann Bell - 22 Jan 2005 14:36 GMT Chiming in with my own comments - we're Mac at home onw, but have a PC we've acquired through donated pieces that we'll set up as soon as we have time. And we've both been using PCs a lot away from home.
I do find Macs more intuitive and easier to figure out but I know at first they confuse folks who are accustomed to PCs. One thing I really prefer about Macs is that the scroling arrows are next to each other so you don't have to move the mouse as much if you are using it to scroll. Sounds minor, I know, but it really matters on a painful day!
AppleWorks is ok for basic word processing, but can become a pain for stuff like printing labels and business cards, etc. It has assistants for that stuff, but they lock into their way of doing things. And labels can only be made from a database, not from a spreadsheet. Royal pain. I end up setting up a custom word processing document for such things. But for typing stuff up, etc, is quite adequate. My brother had Word loaded into their Macs as it was much easier for him communicating with PCs.
Translation is generally done throuugh MacLink. I believe current Macs have this loaded on them, but I could be wrong. It works, but has its frustrations. My big problem is that there are too many options for translating into other programs. But it is possible for someone in the know to set the preference and it can be left there. Now, translation is only an issue if people will be sending stuff back and forth as attachments, of course, and we all know that is not preferrable. There is no issue when printing out letters and with emails it's best to copy and paste anyway.
We do have Norton AV on our computer, mostly because I was afraid Mike would manage to find a Mac virus somewhere before I had him trained to avoid them! It is wonderful not to have to worry about viruses or spyware. Firewalls aren't an issue for us either, but we're still on dial-up too. We've been debating whether or not to connect the PC to the internet. Mike loves to play Scrabble online, but do we really want to worry about all this stuff?
What Duckie says about websites interests me. We are still running on OS 9. something. Some sites now support only the latest Mac version IE which requires OS X. I'm waiting for us to get a bit more ahead financially before buying it. I'm using Opera for the sites that really frustrate me ow in IE. Don't know how Netscape is doing.
Oh, I gotta get going to help set up for a funeral, but there are some thoughts.
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Carole - 22 Jan 2005 15:48 GMT Hi Nann,
For labels, try iLabel 1.7.1. I downloaded it on the Apple website. I used it for my Christmas cards and it let me print regular labels and cute ones with images. It's shareware, so you can try it before you buy it :)
Due to the two wonderful musicians whose websites I do, I got a new Mac for Christmas. I have a little iBook and I love it :)) They've both been after me to go Mac for a while, and since my PC was dying, they both pitched in and I got this little computer that I can take anywhere :)
Carole :)
> Chiming in with my own comments - we're Mac at home onw, but have a PC we've > acquired through donated pieces that we'll set up as soon as we have time. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Oh, I gotta get going to help set up for a funeral, but there are some > thoughts. Caroline Marold - 23 Jan 2005 19:27 GMT Carole -- will it read a dvd or just cd. Same size but even though the info I will send is text files or image files, don't know if the dvd will work in the mac... Good job. :) Duckie
> Hi Nann, > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >> Oh, I gotta get going to help set up for a funeral, but there are some >> thoughts.
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Carole - 23 Jan 2005 21:00 GMT Hi Duckie,
It won't read the info from DVDs or CDs, you'd have to type in what you wanted on the label. But it does have templates for all the standard Avery labels.
Carole :)
> Carole -- will it read a dvd or just cd. Same size but even though the > info I will send is text files or image files, don't know if the dvd [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >>> Oh, I gotta get going to help set up for a funeral, but there are >>> some thoughts. Caroline Marold - 24 Jan 2005 03:51 GMT Sorry, I meant from the Cd or DVD I was going to send you with web info... Duckie
> Hi Duckie, > [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] >>>> Oh, I gotta get going to help set up for a funeral, but there are >>>> some thoughts.
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Carole - 24 Jan 2005 04:46 GMT Oh, sorry about that...I misunderstood :-) I'm still on antibiotics and super cough medicine, so the brain is not working too well at this point :) I feel like I'm under six feet of water. The computer has a DVD drive, so it can read either a CD or DVD :))
Hugsies, Carole :)
> Sorry, I meant from the Cd or DVD I was going to send you with web info... > Duckie [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] >>>>> Oh, I gotta get going to help set up for a funeral, but there are >>>>> some thoughts. Caroline Marold - 25 Jan 2005 01:54 GMT cool. now as soon as the replacement drive HP is shipping arrives and I install it and I load all my software -- I can see just how much of what I had written still remains. lol Duckie
> Oh, sorry about that...I misunderstood :-) I'm still on antibiotics and > super cough medicine, so the brain is not working too well at this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Hugsies, > Carole :) Carole - 25 Jan 2005 03:31 GMT I know what you are going through. I was glad that I had a lot of my stuff up on my server :))
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> cool. now as soon as the replacement drive HP is shipping arrives and I > install it and I load all my software -- I can see just how much of what [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> Hugsies, >> Carole :) Nann Bell - 25 Jan 2005 05:11 GMT BTW, Carole, thanks and I'll look it up soon. I'm running way behind on life this month!
That is wonderful that your website musicians bought you the iBook. What a generous thing to do! What friendship you seem to inspire in others :)
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> Hi Nann, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Carole :) Carole - 26 Jan 2005 01:23 GMT I know how you feel Nann. I had planned to do so many things this month, and then when I got sick, it definitely put a kink in my plans.
And yes, my two musician friends are very wonderful to me :) I am very lucky to have both of them in my life :)
Hugsies, Carole :)
> BTW, Carole, thanks and I'll look it up soon. I'm running way behind on life > this month! > > That is wonderful that your website musicians bought you the iBook. What a > generous thing to do! What friendship you seem to inspire in others :) A Barna - 21 Jan 2005 21:12 GMT Hi Ducki,
> Guy at work was able to drag some though not all of info off my > computer. sigh I am so relieved. Lost some stuff but not all that > important. Now just need to get it repaired. > Duckie If the hard drive was fried he probably wouldn't even have been able to get what he did. The major cause of laptop death is heat from the power supply.
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