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islands@volcanomail.com - 13 Jan 2005 18:28 GMT
Hi everyone,
I've been reading this ng and hoping to tap into the collective wisdom
of the group. I'm not sure what to do next so maybe someone here has
had a similar experience and can share it with me. I started having
health problems a few years ago (I'm now 42) and was diagnosed with an
autoimmune thyroid disorder and then Fibromyalgia. Less than a year ago
I woke up with the ring finger on each hand so painful that nothing
could touch them without making me want to go through the roof. I don't
remember if they were swollen. The extreme pain went away and they look
ok (no inflamation)but if I catch them on anything they still hurt a
little. About a month ago my index finger on my left hand (I'm left
handed and do a lot of work with my hands so it's very
noticeable)started hurting so much that I can only bend it a bit, one
side of the joint is  very very slightly swollen. Basically I can use
my left hand only carefully. If anything touches the joint it's
extremely painful. I went to the rheumatologist who diagnosed my FM and
who is supposed to be an outstanding doctor (yes, I know about doctors
which is why I'm posting here). She said the blood tests show nothing
(I also know that doesn't necessarily mean anything either)and she
didn't know what was wrong but that I would have to be "watched
carefully" and that I should just take the Relafen she gave me for the
FM. I'm beginning to flashback to how long it took to get a diagnosis
for my thyroid and starting to feel desperate. I'm going to see an
ortho on Monday. I don't know if that is the right specialist but I
know he's pretty direct. Anyway, thanks for reading this and what would
you do in my place?
Lisa
Janet R - 13 Jan 2005 19:10 GMT
I have hand problems as well...but I do have OA and Lupus.  Have they
done any x-rays of your hands?

I am seeing my Ortho hand specialist on Monday.    I have lost minimal
range of motion in both thumbs and my index fingers are no longer
bending at the first knuckle at all.  Both index fingers are beginning
to turn toward my middle fingers...kinda freaky. There is some
formation of nodules on thumbs and first knuckles of most fingers.  He
will prescribe finger splints and PT as needed. I am avoiding surgery
for the time being.  That may be something I have to live with
eventually...but not now.  I work with my hands every day and I need
them to work well.

I found a massage therapist who will hand massages!  I will ask the
doc what he thinks..but it sounds soooooo good.  They use warm oil and
heated towels....

Good luck with your doc visit!  Keep us posted!
Janet R

: Hi everyone,
: I've been reading this ng and hoping to tap into the collective wisdom
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: you do in my place?
: Lisa
Diane - 13 Jan 2005 20:10 GMT
hi lisa,

is there a chance you could get a second opinion? have they done xrays?
my bloodwork was normal in the beginning too. tell that to my deformed
feet and hands. =:-0

let us know how you make out. this sounds like something that needs a
disease modifying drug rather than just an nsaid.

diane
d'huit - 13 Jan 2005 21:16 GMT
> Hi everyone,
> I've been reading this ng and hoping to tap into the collective wisdom
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> you do in my place?
> Lisa

so, blood tests have been done.  chances are your ortho will do xrays.  take
a copy of your labs with you on monday.  take a list of all your meds,
vitamins and herbal supplements and their doses.  in the meantime, have you
tried alternating ice and heat treatments on your own?  ice for 15 to 20
minutes;  allow your joints/fingers to return to normal temperature, then
apply heat for 15 to 20 minutes and repeat.  if you don't have an ice bag, a
bag of frozen peas will work (wrapped in a towel).  if you don't have a
heating pad, a sockful of rice heated in the microwave will work, too.

let us know what the ortho does and says.

kate
islands@volcanomail.com - 14 Jan 2005 00:07 GMT
Hi everyone,
Thank you for your responses. My blood tests so far have been normal
except rheumatoid factors (pending) and an elevated ANA which has
always been because of my thyroid disorder. I'm wondering about
massage-isn't it very painful? It is excruciating for anything to put
the slightest pressure on my finger joint. Also cold. I've noticed that
cold makes my hands and knees ache something awful. Heat feels good
though. The rheumatologist said it (reaction to cold) may be due to a
very tiny amount of inflammation (though nothing shows in blood tests
so far). She also gave me a prescription for a topical ointment which I
would like to try but it's very expensive.
I'll see what the ortho says on Monday. Gosh, I thought I was done with
all this illness stuff and dealing with docs. Oh well, thank you for
your support.
Lisa
Squirrely - 14 Jan 2005 21:04 GMT
Hi Lisa welcome to the group. sorry you have to be here.

I would get someone to run xrays to see what is going on.

Also since I just found out the problems I have and now don't trust too many
drs at all. I would say make sure your ANA is really do to the thyroid
disorder and not something else.

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> Hi everyone,
> I've been reading this ng and hoping to tap into the collective wisdom
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> you do in my place?
> Lisa
Alix M. Hall - 15 Jan 2005 20:24 GMT
I have auto-immune thyroid stuff and rheumatoid arthritis as well as Fm--The
thyroid stuff and the RA symptoms started at the same time but the RA was
diagnosed as such much later than the thyroid was diagnosed--I would get a
second opinion if you can and maybe take it all to your endocrinologist to
make sure as Sq. Jo says that your ANA is thyroid--sounds to me as if you
have another one of those pesky auto-immune thingies going on and DMARDs
would be the way to go--for those of us who started doing this thing before
there was as much choice as there is now--we live with the joint
damage--there is no reason now to have to go that route--also--my endo and
my RD both agree that the thyroid and the RA stuff are related in that they
are symptoms of my wacky autoimmune response--that these things seem to run
in families and that along with the thyroid stuff comes cholesterol
trouble--so check that out as well--alert your sibs--(I have a cousin who is
almost identical to me as far as disease entities go--but the ten years
older that he is shows the ten years more damage--which I am hoping the fact
that I have been on DMARDs will alleviate)--hang in there--Alix
 
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