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Campbellbrbc - 14 Jan 2005 21:11 GMT
Has arthritisinsight.com been changed?  I can no longer bring up the website.
Barbara
Caroline Marold - 14 Jan 2005 23:44 GMT
I think their server got a worm or virus or something
and they lost everything. Having to reload... Someone
make Kimmy a margarita -- she is going to need it.
Duckie

> Has arthritisinsight.com been changed?  I can no longer bring up the website.
> Barbara

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kenny - 15 Jan 2005 02:17 GMT
>I think their server got a worm or virus or something
>and they lost everything. Having to reload... Someone
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>> Has arthritisinsight.com been changed?  I can no longer bring up the website.
>> Barbara

Best to just give her the bottle,,,,, or two and get out of the way.

.~Kenny
Nann Bell - 15 Jan 2005 02:37 GMT
> I think their server got a worm or virus or something
> and they lost everything. Having to reload... Someone
> make Kimmy a margarita -- she is going to need it.
> Duckie

I think that should be a keg of margaritas, with a pitcher for KJ, too!

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Kimmy - 15 Jan 2005 03:51 GMT
Here's the scoop on AI (I'm prolly gonna get in trouble for opening my
mouth but KJ's got wonky white blood cell counts and a big case of
hives giving her that sunkissed look and keeping her on the couch) so
I'm gonna go ahead.

AI will be back but under new ownership. It about killed us to wake up
and find the site gone. Didn't even have a mailbox by the time the worm
was done with the site. Really depressing to think of all that work
disappearing - you're gonna laugh but there's been some kind of
grieving process involved in losing the site. I've been shocked,
pissed, frustrated and depressed for the last month.

We thought about starting over, but to put AI back together the way it
should be is just too much for either of us right now. We were in the
process of getting the server straightened out and recreating bits and
pieces that we could salvage from our own computers when we got an
offer for the domain name. Kicked it around, made sure the gentleman
who wanted the site wanted it for the right reasons and decided to make
a break and get a fresh start on something new. We're gonna help where
we can getting AI back together and we're starting a new site that's
going to be strictly community (chat, message boards, newsletter, photo
album, etc...).

Our new boards are up, hoping to go live next week.

If you see KJ over here, tell her she's suppose to be resting...
Kimmy
debbie m. - 15 Jan 2005 12:30 GMT
(((((((((((((((Kimmy and KJ)))))))))))))))))

Kimmy,

Did I understand you to say that you have sold the AI name.  When you finish
will your website be under a new name?  Please keep us updated.  I'm sorry
this happened.  I know you've put years of work into this and it really
showed on such a super site.

I remember when Tina and I were in a chat room together (can't even remember
which one it was so long ago) when she was discussing starting a website.  I
wonder how many years ago that was.  Anyway, thanks to both of you for your
endless work.

debbie m.
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/

> Here's the scoop on AI (I'm prolly gonna get in trouble for opening my
> mouth but KJ's got wonky white blood cell counts and a big case of
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> If you see KJ over here, tell her she's suppose to be resting...
> Kimmy
Kimmy - 15 Jan 2005 14:34 GMT
Hiya Debbie,

Yes, the AI domain has been sold. It's in the process of be being put
back together and should be back soon. The gentleman who bought it is
very nice and wanted it for all the right reasons. I told him it was a
bit like selling a kid and he told me not to think of it like that, but
as sending a kid off to college. He's planning to expand the site and
keep it going.

We've started a new site that is going to be community based. Message
Boards, chatroom, newsletter. Small and cozy this time. We'll have
gimpfest information, our travel Gorilla (our board members are passing
around an ornery stuffed gorilla) and current arthritis news. The new
name is Rheumorweb.com

Our message boards are up (http://rheumorweb.com/InvisionBoard) and
we're working on the rest of it. Arthritis Insight was alot of work -
we're hoping by keeping things small we'll be able to get back to
enjoying the site more.

KJ will have an official announcement when she's feeling better. We're
not moving as quickly as we had hoped - I think we're getting old -
can't do those all-nighters any more ;) but we'll get there.

Kimmy
me2@dn14.net - 15 Jan 2005 15:17 GMT
>Hiya Debbie,
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>Kimmy

Kimmy,

Firstly, a big thanks from me here in the UK for all you, KJ and
others did with AI when it was with us, and I for one am sorry to see
it go, but thankful for your time and effort when it was here [if that
makes sense?]

Secondly, please make sure your message board is up to date,[I'm
assuming you would do anyway] as it was only the other day I was
reading about how the nastys who send out virus's etc were targeting
php bbs, I've copied what I read for info below:

Recently a serious exploitable issue was discovered in PHP (the
scripting language in which phpBB, IPB, vB, etc. are written) versions
prior to 4.3.10. The problematical functions include unserialize and
realpath. phpBB (along with a great many other scripts including IPB,
vB, etc.) use these two functions as a matter of course.

It has come to our attention that code has now been released which
uses this exploit in PHP to obtain confidential information in phpBB.
Such information includes data contained in phpBB's config.php file.
We therefore recommend the following:

1) If you maintain your own server be sure to upgrade to the newest
available release of PHP (both versions 4 and 5). Be aware that at
this time phpBB 2.0.x has problems functioning under PHP5 without
modification.

2) If you pay for hosting ensure you hosting provider has upgraded
thier installation of PHP (again remember that phpBB 2.0.x and other
scripts will not function under PHP5 without modification).

Please do not submit this PHP issue to our security tracker, it is
beyond our control. Fixed versions of PHP do exist and as above we
encourage you to ensure your system is running such a version. Equally
please examine any "hacking" issues you have carefully to ensure they
are not caused by this PHP problem (rather than phpBB). Remember, this
is not a phpBB exploit or problem, it's a PHP issue and thus can
affect any PHP script which uses the noted functions.
--
Andy
Kimmy - 15 Jan 2005 15:31 GMT
Andy that's exactly how we lost the site. My fault for not knowing
about the security issues. (It was also the first thing I asked about
when choosing a new host for the site.) Learned that lesson the hard
way.

AI will be back everybody!! It'll be bigger and better than ever - we
just won't be running it any more. I'll let you know as I hear more.
Kimmy
me2@dn14.net - 15 Jan 2005 16:01 GMT
>Andy that's exactly how we lost the site. My fault for not knowing
>about the security issues. (It was also the first thing I asked about
>when choosing a new host for the site.) Learned that lesson the hard
>way.

Kimmy,

Whatever it was, it WAS NOT your fault. It was the fault of the sick
individual who was educated enough to be able to program, but then for
whatever reason decided to program bad stuff. I don't know what sort
of gratification he/she got from that, especially since the site he
trashed was such a valuable resource for many people. My only hope is
if he [god forbid] ever does get arthritis himself, he comes here and
asks for advice [if we ever get to know who it was] we could tell him
to try noni juice [ the most expensive kind] and give him back what he
gave us!

Anyway, once again, don't blame yourself Kimmy, you've done a stirling
job until the trash, and I'm sure, given time you will in the future
with whatever comes from its ashes.
--
Andy
A Barna - 15 Jan 2005 20:52 GMT
Hi Kimmy,

> Our message boards are up
> (http://rheumorweb.com/InvisionBoard) and we're working on the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Kimmy

I hope you or your ISP keep a back up of the new board.  I make a
DVD back up of my sites every time I make a major change.

GramPaHugs,
Alex,

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Nann Bell - 15 Jan 2005 15:01 GMT
AI will be back but under new ownership. It about killed us to wake up
> and find the site gone. Didn't even have a mailbox by the time the worm
> was done with the site. Really depressing to think of all that work
> disappearing - you're gonna laugh but there's been some kind of
> grieving process involved in losing the site. I've been shocked,
> pissed, frustrated and depressed for the last month.

I'm not laughing at all.  AI was very much y'all's baby, it's totally natural
to grieve after all you all have put into it.

It's sad to see it passing from your control, but I totally understand the
decision.  Building the site took so much time and energy but it least it
happened slowly over time.  Re-building it must have been an overwhelming
prospect.  And you both have lives to live.

((((((((Kimmy)))))))))

(((((((((KJ))))))))))

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Nann Bell - 15 Jan 2005 15:03 GMT
> We're gonna help where
> we can getting AI back together and we're starting a new site that's
> going to be strictly community (chat, message boards, newsletter, photo
> album, etc...).

oh, and I meant to say, I'm glad you're still gonna do the community thing.  
We can still keep the nut-so part of the site.  <bg>

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Kimmy - 15 Jan 2005 16:05 GMT
Nann said:

::oh, and I meant to say, I'm glad you're still gonna do the community thing.
We can still keep the nut-so part of the site. <bg>::

KJ says we can still do the picnics in the fall too - we'll just have
to make 'em BYOB <vbeg>

Kimmy
Nann Bell - 15 Jan 2005 18:42 GMT
> Nann said:
>
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>
> Kimmy

LOL  And you know we will!  (hey, if Enbrel works for me and I get to drop at
least the Arava, I'll be able to drink more!)  

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Melissa - 15 Jan 2005 19:47 GMT
Does that stand for Bring your own Bob? Or more likely Bring your own
bald man..lol!!

melissa

>Nann said:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Kimmy
Tina Underwood - 15 Jan 2005 21:02 GMT
>Does that stand for Bring your own Bob? Or more likely Bring your own
>bald man..lol!!

Glad I got off the couch to read this one! LMAO....I think Kimmy meant to type
BTBM!

Bring Tina a Bald Man!

Thanks for all the support ya'll have given us. Giving up AI was not an easy
decision but one that we felt was best for us.The thought of rebuilding AI was
just overwehlming.

And thanks for all the good thoughts and prayers, still waiting for my doc to
call. I'll post the details in the KJ thread.

~KJ

Akron, Ohio
Gwen Love - 15 Jan 2005 16:43 GMT
Poor Kimmy, & KJ.  Just a shame to lose all that information, after all the
work that went into it.  Bless you both.
Gwen

> Here's the scoop on AI (I'm prolly gonna get in trouble for opening my
> mouth but KJ's got wonky white blood cell counts and a big case of
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> If you see KJ over here, tell her she's suppose to be resting...
> Kimmy
Rosemarie Shiver - 15 Jan 2005 17:29 GMT
{{{Kimmy}}}

    No sign of KJ anywhere so that's good. Hey, ya gotta do whut ya gotta
do, sez some Gimp. :-) If ya want/need me to contribute to the new downsized
site just holler!

   Beaucoup thanks for all you did and for KJ's efforts as well. I'm glad
yer gonna be taking it easier, m'dear.

   Feel better soonest, Krissy Jo.

Kimmy and KJ Hugs from Rosie

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"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself" -- Meat Loaf, Bat
Outta Hell II

> Here's the scoop on AI (I'm prolly gonna get in trouble for opening my
> mouth but KJ's got wonky white blood cell counts and a big case of
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> If you see KJ over here, tell her she's suppose to be resting...
> Kimmy
Kimmy - 15 Jan 2005 17:36 GMT
They're talking about admitting KJ, she's waiting for the doctor to
call back. Seems looking at her labs you'd think she has a massive
infection, but she doesn't have a fever. (I think she's playing another
game of stump the doctor)
A prayer and good thought or two would surely help.

Kimmy
Rosemarie Shiver - 15 Jan 2005 17:46 GMT
Okey doke...starting a new thread for it.

More Kimmy Hugs from Rosie

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"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself" -- Meat Loaf, Bat
Outta Hell II

> They're talking about admitting KJ, she's waiting for the doctor to
> call back. Seems looking at her labs you'd think she has a massive
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Kimmy
Nann Bell - 15 Jan 2005 18:42 GMT
> They're talking about admitting KJ, she's waiting for the doctor to
> call back. Seems looking at her labs you'd think she has a massive
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Kimmy

Oy, sounds like the games KJ's body plays.  got lots of big wind here today
to carry the good thoughts and well wishes down her way.  and a few prayers
for insight on the docs' parts, too.

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Squirrely - 15 Jan 2005 20:41 GMT
Prayers coming that way for KJ. I hope for a quick recovery too.

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> They're talking about admitting KJ, she's waiting for the doctor to
> call back. Seems looking at her labs you'd think she has a massive
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Kimmy
Nann Bell - 15 Jan 2005 18:56 GMT
> Here's the scoop on AI (I'm prolly gonna get in trouble for opening my
> mouth but KJ's got wonky white blood cell counts and a big case of
> hives giving her that sunkissed look and keeping her on the couch) so
> I'm gonna go ahead.

Oh, and if you get in trouble for opening your mouth, let us know.  We come
down there and sell tickets to the fight!  LOL

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Squirrely - 15 Jan 2005 21:31 GMT
My thoughts are with you Kimmy and Tina. I know this has to be a major loss
to you. We did appreciate all the hard work you did for it.

We shall all miss your work.

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> Here's the scoop on AI (I'm prolly gonna get in trouble for opening my
> mouth but KJ's got wonky white blood cell counts and a big case of
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> If you see KJ over here, tell her she's suppose to be resting...
> Kimmy
d'huit - 16 Jan 2005 06:26 GMT
man!  that just sux rocks, bigtime!  what a lousy, rotten, shitty,
mean-spirited  thing to do to a humanitarian web site!  i can't fault you
and kj a bit for being depressed about losing all that work.  geesh, that
was one huge hurkin' site!  and i can sure understand why it would be
overwhelming to try to put it back together the way it was.
(((((((((((((((((((kimmy & kj))))))))))))))  well, i guess i'm glad you
could sell the domain name to somebody who wants to do right by it.  but
what a shock!  and what a loss for all of us.  damn.

kate

> Here's the scoop on AI (I'm prolly gonna get in trouble for opening my
> mouth but KJ's got wonky white blood cell counts and a big case of
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> If you see KJ over here, tell her she's suppose to be resting...
> Kimmy
Caroline Marold - 17 Jan 2005 22:34 GMT
Makes me wish I had saved all that stuff I sent you
over the years. Got so I sent people to the site
instead of trying to send individual pictures...
Huge hugs to you both. I am sure it is actually a
relief. When I closed my business I had that grieving
process and then came out the other side very happy. Of
course, I got to make the decision and not have it
shoved on me.
Don't regret the move. Think of it as a child who grew
up and finally moved out of the house. :)
Duckie

> Here's the scoop on AI (I'm prolly gonna get in trouble for opening my
> mouth but KJ's got wonky white blood cell counts and a big case of
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> If you see KJ over here, tell her she's suppose to be resting...
> Kimmy

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Mary Z - 18 Jan 2005 02:50 GMT
>AI will be back but under new ownership. It about killed us to wake up
>and find the site gone.

Oh what a bummer we will miss the site.  I hope the new owner is as
personable as you are.  Will he be using your web design?   Well I
will be interested to see your new site, but huge bummer that it had
to happen.  We will miss you and Tina in the old AI.  -- MZ

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Alix M. Hall - 15 Jan 2005 20:59 GMT
I'll donate chocolate covered potato chips so they have  a munchie--ALix
Diane - 15 Jan 2005 17:17 GMT
kimmy, i can imagine how you and kj felt when you saw the site was
gone. omigod. of course you're grieving. i'm grieving for it, too, and
it wasn't even my site. you guys did a magnificent job with it.
i admire your resiliency in making your plans to start over. i like the
new name. cute! tell kj to take care of those hives.

diane
Don Kirkman - 15 Jan 2005 23:43 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Campbellbrbc wrote in article
<20050114161144.14993.00000002@mb-m21.wmconnect.com>:

>Has arthritisinsight.com been changed?  I can no longer bring up the website.

Material that had been on the site is available at
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://arthritisinsight.com/

http://web.archive.org, the Wayback Machine, is the property of an
organization that archives Web pages and makes them available to
searchers at no cost, a handy URL to check when a favorite site goes
dead; they take snapshots of a site from time to time, so an interested
user can sometimes follow the development and changes in a site or track
down something that had been removed earlier.

For arthritisinsight.com, they have snapshots ranging from May 19, 2000
through February 22, 2004.

I didn't look at the individual pages, so I don't know if they have
anything Kimmy and KJ could or would want to retrieve for rebuilding.
Also, I don't know what kind of help, if any, the site manager could or
would provide to help a site owner to rebuilt lost work.
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Kimmy - 16 Jan 2005 02:06 GMT
Thanks Don - someone has mentioned this to the new owner and he's
checking it out. He thinks alot of the site might be able to be
salvaged. KJ and I could help fill in the gaps.

Kimmy
Ifish2b - 23 Jan 2005 07:00 GMT
{{{{{KJ and Kimmy}}}}}  What a bummer.  Hopefully, with the new smaller site,
you two will get some well deserved rest.

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