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firechief - 29 Dec 2004 07:28 GMT
     FACT VS. FICTION

Adjust bike seat for ease of mind
Tuesday, Dec. 28, 2004

The claim: Bicycle seats can cause impotence for male riders.

The facts: Many people ride their bikes to stay fit, but
could male cyclists be jeopardizing their reproductive
health?

Traditional bike seats are so narrow that they distribute a
rider's weight unevenly, concentrating pressure on nerves
and the arteries that control blood flow to the genitals.
Through the years, some urologists have said that this can
lead to impotence in men, though more than a half-dozen
studies have produced conflicting results.

In 1998, researchers at Boston University showed that a
group of hundreds of healthy male cyclists in their 20s and
30s had a higher rate of erectile dysfunction than a group
of male runners of similar age and health.

In another study, an Austrian researcher found that a
group of men who rode their mountain bikes two hours a day
for six days a week, although in peak physical shape, had
one-third the sperm counts of a group of healthy noncyclists.

But a less alarming study, published in September this year
in The Journal of Urology, surveyed 688 male bikers and
found, after adjusting for age, that the prevalence of
erectile dysfunction among the riders was normal.

So who is right? Experts are not entirely sure.

But laboratory studies that have actually measured pressure
and blood flow in subjects seated on stationary bikes find
that arteries can become significantly compressed during
riding.

This effect can be reduced by pointing the saddle downward a
bit, standing up periodically, and adjusting the seat height
so the knees are just barely bent at the bottom of the pedal
stroke. A wider, ergonomically designed seat can also help;
extra padding, one study found, does not.

The bottom line: Riding a bike can put pressure on critical
arteries, though a proper seat and simple adjustments can
reduce the effect.
d'huit - 03 Jan 2005 04:51 GMT
hmmm . . . interesting.  i just had this very same discussion with my 28
year old son tonight.  we both came to the same conclusion as presented in
this article.  thanks, chief.  now, i can print this out and show him this,
so he can know we were both on the right track.

kate

>      FACT VS. FICTION
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> arteries, though a proper seat and simple adjustments can
> reduce the effect.
firechief - 03 Jan 2005 06:35 GMT
Kate wrote:

> hmmm . . . interesting.  i just had this very same discussion with
> my 28 year old son tonight.  we both came to the same conclusion
> as presented in this article.  thanks, chief.  now, i can print this out
> and show him this, so he can know we were both on the right track.

I rode a bike for 3 hours 5 days a week after school and 7-8 hours
on Saturday, from age 10 to 16 (when I finally got a driver's license),
delivering groceries from dad's store - and I still wound up with 4 sons
later in life.

That got me to thinking while reading that article that perhaps it's the
styling of today's bikes and seats - gotta keep up with the Jones
kind of mentality.

And again, my bike was a single-speed, built before the days of the
sleek multi-speed and racing bikes.
d'huit - 03 Jan 2005 08:59 GMT
> Kate wrote:
>
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> And again, my bike was a single-speed, built before the days of the
> sleek multi-speed and racing bikes.

yeppers.  better seats back then, for both men and women.  i foresee a
problem with the stretched reach to grip the straight handlebars, too.
that's got to play havoc with the spine and hips somewhere down the line.

to be truthful, though, chief---what kid, back when, wouldn't have wanted
the latest and greatest, too, if they could have had them?  we, and/or our
parents, just couldn't afford the latest and greatest, is all.

kate
(whose j.c. higgins had two speeds . . . stop and go.<g>  and i still think
you can do more tricks and have more control with coaster brakes.)
Nann Bell - 03 Jan 2005 14:39 GMT
We bought specific male and female bike seats for our bikes a year ago.  They
have certain cut out areas and padding specific to our gender's anatomy.  
Much, much more comfortable! Didn't even pay much for ours as they were on
sale at Performance Bike.

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> hmmm . . . interesting.  i just had this very same discussion with my 28
> year old son tonight.  we both came to the same conclusion as presented in
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Patty - 03 Jan 2005 15:04 GMT
> i can print this out and show him this,
>so he can know we were both on the right track.

Our 19 year old son found out 'accidentally' in a recent ER visit that one of
his testicles is atrophied and non-functional. (He had epididimytis, which got
better, but, needs surgery for the other.) He's since seen 2 urologists to see
where we go from here. He's a big bike rider. Has been for years. Both
urologists advised him to get a new seat for his bike (one with a cut-out in
the center) to preserve what's left of his fertility. He got a new seat and
says it's much more comfortable than all his previous ones. He didn't even
realize he was uncomfortable until he got the new seat. He was actually getting
numbness from the old seats. Whether this evidence holds up over time makes no
difference to him. He's not willing to take any extra chances with his
remaining ability to reproduce.

----
Hoping your hills are never too steep.
Be well, Patty
d'huit - 06 Jan 2005 22:34 GMT
> We bought specific male and female bike seats for our bikes a year ago.
> They
> have certain cut out areas and padding specific to our gender's anatomy.
> Much, much more comfortable! Didn't even pay much for ours as they were on
> sale at Performance Bike.

thanks, nann!  i'm not sure if alex knows about those seats or not.  he will
now.<smile>  what brand did you get?--so, i can be more specific with him
(he's worse than i am when it comes to wanting specifics.LOL).

kate

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Nann Bell - 07 Jan 2005 12:49 GMT
>> We bought specific male and female bike seats for our bikes a year ago.
>> They
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> now.<smile>  what brand did you get?--so, i can be more specific with him
> (he's worse than i am when it comes to wanting specifics.LOL).

we got Performance Bike's own brand (http://www.performancebike.com/)  At the
time we bought ours, the previoust year's model was marked way down.  I guess
they made some changes in the new model.  Even the regular price isn't bad.  
Ok, I've been working through their site while I type.  Looks like this is
their current Men's contour saddle  
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=18264

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d'huit - 08 Jan 2005 17:38 GMT
thank you for going to all that trouble of looking it up for me, sweetie.  i
appreciate your time and effort.  i will indeed share it with alex.

kate
>>> We bought specific male and female bike seats for our bikes a year ago.
>>> They
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> their current Men's contour saddle
> http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=18264
Nann Bell - 08 Jan 2005 23:20 GMT
> thank you for going to all that trouble of looking it up for me, sweetie.  i
> appreciate your time and effort.  i will indeed share it with alex.
>
> kate

You are quite welcome.  And it wasn't that much trouble as I knew exactly
what I was looking for.  But if you want to see the female version, you'll
have to go to their website and find it yourself  <bg>

I know there are lots of similar bike seats (aka saddles) out there, but I
found the ones from performance had the best prices and are quite good
enough.

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