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HarpoMoJo - 25 Dec 2004 18:03 GMT
Went to the post office this week to mail some Christmas cards and
requested stamps with a seasonal theme. I made the mistake of saying
that the U.S. flags stamps were getting just a little old.
Well, a little old white haired lady behind me looked visably mad that I
said this.
One of the postal workers told me later that this particular lady
followed me to my car and got my tag number. She returned to the inside
of the post offfice and told some of the workers that she was turning me
into the FBI.
If the sweet little old lady had just known that she was turning in one
of the most patroitic individuals in her home town, she would have been
red faced. I am a Vietnam veteran and served with honor. Virtually all
of my family have spent time in the service all the way back to the
Civil War. Some members fought for the South and other members fought
for the North.
We have a number of people in my home town that are waving old glory
high. Just they are not waving it as high now as that did when they saw
the  "mission accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier.
I do have arthritis and follow this newsgroup as it is very informative.
d'huit - 25 Dec 2004 22:28 GMT
w0w.  amazing how oddly people can perceive others, isn't it?

so, tell us about your arthritis, how it's affected you and what's being
done about it.  we nosey people need to know these things<smile> and it
helps us to be able to help you more.

kate

> Went to the post office this week to mail some Christmas cards and
> requested stamps with a seasonal theme. I made the mistake of saying
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> the  "mission accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier.
> I do have arthritis and follow this newsgroup as it is very informative.
Jo Firey - 25 Dec 2004 22:52 GMT
Welcome to the club.  Inadvertent SOB's.  (See my post on cheating a gimp
out of parking)

There is always someone who will misinterpret what you say and what you do.
Not even always their fault.

I like a bit of variety in stamps as well.  But prefer the love ones at
Valentines and for personal mail, bright happy ones for Christmas and Flags
the rest of the year.  I'm happy when they change the design on the Flag one
every so often.

Jo
> Went to the post office this week to mail some Christmas cards and
> requested stamps with a seasonal theme. I made the mistake of saying
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> the  "mission accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier.
> I do have arthritis and follow this newsgroup as it is very informative.
d'huit - 26 Dec 2004 19:43 GMT
i was just thinking about that lady and her turning a person and car plate
id  in to the fbi over a benign comment about stamps.  i have to wonder how
many times she's called or written the fbi about other similar people and
occurrances.  if i correctly remember what my uncle once told me, the fbi
has, or at least used to have, a sort of "kooks' list" (my term for it, cuz
i can't remember exactly what he called it) of repeated callers who reported
stuff like this that wasted the agency's time and resources.  he said it was
a pretty long list, but that was back in the '70s.

and thinking about your comment below, i think most of us have occassion to
misinterpret what someone else says or does.  communication can be a tricky
business and there are so many forms of communication that each of us
employ.  when you combine those forms with socialized regional meanings, it
is kind of amazing that any of us understand each other at all.

kate

> Welcome to the club.  Inadvertent SOB's.  (See my post on cheating a gimp
> out of parking)
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>> the  "mission accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier.
>> I do have arthritis and follow this newsgroup as it is very informative.
firechief - 27 Dec 2004 04:49 GMT
Kate wrote:

>  if i correctly remember what my uncle once told me, the fbi has,
> or at least used to have, a sort of "kooks' list" (my term for it, cuz
> i can't remember exactly what he called it) of repeated callers who
> reported stuff like this that wasted the agency's time and resources.

Every law enforcement agency has a "kooks list".

However they realize that the lonely widow who has nothing
better to do than peer through the drapes and notices a car
that has driven up and down the street 3, 4, 5 times may be
onto something.

Then again, the gal on the west coast who says her ex-
in Virginia is trying to kill her with cosmic rays might be
due for a trip to funny farm.  (It happened here, really.)

And the ambulance companies and other medical aid
suppliers have their "frequent flyer" lists -- people who
call 9-1-1 for an emergency, then greet medics at the
door with a suitcase already packed.
d'huit - 27 Dec 2004 05:36 GMT
> Kate wrote:
>
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> call 9-1-1 for an emergency, then greet medics at the
> door with a suitcase already packed.

w0w.  i guess butch, and me as the caller, qualified for the "frequent
fliers' list"---45 times in 16 1/2 months (it still hasn't gotten any easier
to say that.).  i never realized people actually called ambulances with a
suitcase packed, unless they were about to deliver a baby, chief.  well,
maybe that's because the person had nobody to bring their stuff to the
hospital?

kate
Nicole H - 26 Dec 2004 04:11 GMT
Like you, I enjoy a variety in my stamps.  I was disappointed there was only
one christmas stamp to choose from this year.
After 9/11, when everyone else was flying a flag, we didn't.  People said
some pretty nasty things.... what the fools didn't know was my husband was
in the Army (14yrs) and I've been the woman behind the man.
Nicole
> Went to the post office this week to mail some Christmas cards and
> requested stamps with a seasonal theme. I made the mistake of saying
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> the  "mission accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier.
> I do have arthritis and follow this newsgroup as it is very informative.
firechief - 26 Dec 2004 06:44 GMT
> Like you, I enjoy a variety in my stamps.  I was disappointed
> there was only one christmas stamp to choose from this year.

Our post office had 2 religious designs - plus the non-religious
designs.  I used half-and-half of the religious ones on the ASA
Christmas card mailing - about 40 of one design and 40 of the
other.
Carole - 26 Dec 2004 09:03 GMT
>>Like you, I enjoy a variety in my stamps.  I was disappointed
>>there was only one christmas stamp to choose from this year.

I ordered my stamps online since I can never get to the post office with
the hours I work, and all they had was flags...I would have liked
something more festive too.

Carole :)
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 26 Dec 2004 18:45 GMT
We've flown the flag forever.  The only time it comes inside is if the
weather is bad.  We have it lit up at night.  Bob and I are both veterans
and will be flying the flag until we're dead.  We are the only ones in our
neighborhood who fly the flag year round.

That said - I, too, get discouraged when the only stamps I get time and time
again are the flag ones.  Give me a flower or something!

DeeTee
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> Like you, I enjoy a variety in my stamps.  I was disappointed there was
> only
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>> the  "mission accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier.
>> I do have arthritis and follow this newsgroup as it is very informative.
firechief - 27 Dec 2004 04:39 GMT
DeeTee wrote:

> We've flown the flag forever.  The only time it comes inside
> is if the weather is bad.

We have one of the all-weather flags that's outside 24/7.
Colors won't run, as with cloth flags, but eventually it will
fade and need replacement.
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 27 Dec 2004 13:56 GMT
Ours is all-weather, too, but I find it lasts longer if we bring it in.  It
doesn't fade as quickly.

Hugs! DeeTee
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> DeeTee wrote:
>
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> Colors won't run, as with cloth flags, but eventually it will
> fade and need replacement.
Nicole H - 28 Dec 2004 19:40 GMT
Good for you for flying the flag in the correct manner.  There are so many
rules.
Nice to hear of someone who does fly it correctly.

Nicole
donnah - 26 Dec 2004 13:23 GMT
Wow, I was more struck by the coincidences in our background...I
served in Nam as an Army nurse and also come from a military
background.
And the incident from the post office doesn't surprise me--BTDT, just
in different circumstances.
donnah

> Went to the post office this week to mail some Christmas cards and
> requested stamps with a seasonal theme. I made the mistake of saying
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> I do have arthritis and follow this newsgroup as it is very
> informative.
Alix M. Hall - 26 Dec 2004 19:48 GMT
It seemed that after 9-11  a bunch of people who used to give me grief about
flying my flag--which I have done for many many years and not just on
holidays--all of a sudden had their flags flying--and of course most of them
are put away by now.  Well, just for me, my flag will fly every day as long
as young men and women who wear the uniform of my country are in harm's way
anywhere in the world.  I am a military brat and was a military wife-- I
wonder if your post office lady is one of the new converts to the flag--new
converts are always more scrupulous than cradle flag flyers---LOL--I like
the pretty flowers stamps and the herons--I don't have to prove I am a
patriot by putting a flag stamp on my mail--I have been living it every day
of my life and certainly the year both my husband and my father were in
Vietnam together!!
sigh--oh--and donnah do you know about In Country Women--email list for
women who served in VN and those of us who love and respect them?
donnah - 27 Dec 2004 02:52 GMT
Hi Alix...
no, I don't know about the list but can you tell me about it?
donnah

> It seemed that after 9-11  a bunch of people who used to give me
> grief about flying my flag--which I have done for many many years
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> for women who served in VN and those of us who love and respect
> them?
Nicole H - 28 Dec 2004 19:38 GMT
Thank you for your, your husbands and your fathers service!!!

Nicole
Nann Bell - 26 Dec 2004 13:54 GMT
Definitely an over-reaction!  I mean you were just talking about stamps.  
Hopefully the FBI will realize a statement such as yours is NOT a red flag!

We love variety in stamps, too.  We usually buy 3 or 4 designs at once.  And
you're right, they've stuck with the same flag design for quite some time
now.  And some of their past flag designs have been much more effective.  
Don't think I saw a new version of the flag stamp on their list for 2005.  
Maybe it's time to start requesting one.

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JXStern - 27 Dec 2004 10:01 GMT
>Went to the post office this week to mail some Christmas cards and
>requested stamps with a seasonal theme. I made the mistake of saying
>that the U.S. flags stamps were getting just a little old.

http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/postal_store_non_ssl/display_products/productD
etail.jsp?OID=4586732&info=more


I used up a few books of these earlier this year.  The booklets are
extremely nice, I felt like a vandal actually using the postage!

J.
Jo Firey - 27 Dec 2004 18:52 GMT
>>Went to the post office this week to mail some Christmas cards and
>>requested stamps with a seasonal theme. I made the mistake of saying
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> J.

Those are nice.  My favorite flag though is the rattlesnake flag.  I'm a
grouchy patriot.

Jo
d'huit - 27 Dec 2004 21:17 GMT
>>>Went to the post office this week to mail some Christmas cards and
>>>requested stamps with a seasonal theme. I made the mistake of saying
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Jo

LOL!  i think, and am wondering if, you mean the gadsden flag from the
colonial era.  i always liked that one, too.  it was one of the first things
i was taught about (in school in connecticut) our flags and the colonial
era.

kate
Jo Firey - 28 Dec 2004 00:15 GMT
>>>>Went to the post office this week to mail some Christmas cards and
>>>>requested stamps with a seasonal theme. I made the mistake of saying
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> kate

Yep, and I'm pretty sure it was one of the very first of our flags.  I just
love the sentiment.  Especially coming from the folks of that era.

Jo
Nann Bell - 28 Dec 2004 14:40 GMT
> http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/postal_store_non_ssl/display_products/produ
> ctDetail.jsp?OID=4586732&info=more
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>
> J.

Those are neat!  I'll have to ask if they have them here and order some if
not.  I like the fan flag - it's a neat artistic effect.

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