In light of some recent threads, I thought another kind of holiday survey
might be in order - for those of us whose traditions DO NOT include
Christmas. Most cultures have some sort of celebration involving light this
time of year. What are your traditions from your family of origin and
current family? Favorite memory?
We celebrate Chanukah. We light menorot (plural of menorah), eat latkes (or
fried chicken), play dreidel, give chocolate and real gelt (coins) and try
to have friends over for dinner as often as possible during the eight days.
We exchange gifts (just one thing per person) on the last night.
As a child we lit a single menorah for the family, ate latkes, got gelt the
first night, and a gift the last night.
My favorite memory was the year we got Chanukah stencils and spray flocking
and decorated the front window with Chanukah symbols. My Mom was really
afraid to do it because we lived in a very non-Jewish neighborhood and there
was the occasional anti-Semitic comment, but nothing bad happened.

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Joan Carter - 22 Dec 2004 21:22 GMT
>We celebrate Chanukah. We light menorot (plural of menorah), eat latkes (or
>fried chicken), play dreidel, give chocolate and real gelt (coins) and try
>to have friends over for dinner as often as possible during the eight days.
>We exchange gifts (just one thing per person) on the last night.
Thanks for that, Adelle. I celebrate Christmas but it is nice to know what
others do.
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Joan
RoseB - 22 Dec 2004 21:26 GMT
>In light of some recent threads, I thought another kind of holiday survey
>might be in order - for those of us whose traditions DO NOT include
>Christmas.
A good idea, Adelle.
I grew up in a small town on the prairies, and knew very little about
religious beliefs that were other than Christianity. Then when I went
to the city to attend university, I met a fellow student teacher who
was Jewish. Through her I learned about the meaning of Hanukkah and
the beautiful traditions that were associated.
I would love to hear about what other people do.
Rose @}>->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB
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firechief - 22 Dec 2004 23:23 GMT
> I grew up in a small town on the prairies, and knew very little about
> religious beliefs that were other than Christianity. Then when I went
> to the city to attend university, I met a fellow student teacher who
> was Jewish. Through her I learned about the meaning of Hanukkah
> and the beautiful traditions that were associated.
I didn't grow up in a small town, but was "sheltered" from other
beliefs until I became a Scout leader and eventually trainer for
newer leaders. We used a quiz, with prize, at monthly training
session to furnish the newcomers with material to use in their
units (I was the quizmaster for several years). And the various
religious feasts were incorporated into the questions whenever
appropriate to the month - December was Chanukah/Hanukkah
and the Immaculate Conception; March, Annuciation; April,
Passover, etc. etc. etc.
It was funny, sad at the same time, when some gave the wrong
answers to questions about their own faith's beliefs.,
JLee - 24 Dec 2004 06:17 GMT
> I didn't grow up in a small town, but was "sheltered" from other
> beliefs until I became a Scout leader
Me too. When I became a leader, we had a group of 14 boys whose beliefs
encompassed at least five different religions. We created a 'prayer box'
where each child could write out a favorite prayer, and each week would pull
one from the box for our closing. More often than not, that led to
interesting discussion of the differences (and similarities) between the
religions.
Janet N.
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 23 Dec 2004 00:26 GMT
Adelle:
for those of us whose traditions DO NOT include
Christmas. Most cultures have some sort of celebration involving light
this
time of year. What are your traditions from your family of origin and
current family? Favorite memory?
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While I was reared in a generally Christian home, my maternal grand
father was full blood Creek, so I was allowed to spend a great deal of
time with him. The "clan" that he belonged to, had never accepted my
mother as part of their tribe, since Grannie Momma was a white woman,
so our family pretty much figured that we would never know our "other"
cultural history. You know, aside from Christian (my dad and his
family) and Jewish (grannie momma and her family).
When I was 6 years old, my grandfather took me to meet the Elders,
apparently, he had done this with all of my siblings as well when they
turned 6. The Creek don't have a celebration so much as just a
gathering. All members bring their children who are 6 or older to be
judged by the Elders.
I am the only member of my immediate family that the Elders found to be
acceptable. I don't remember a lot of what happened, but I do remember
the "blue bread" (Chud-da Ha-ga) and the Sofkey (beaten corn with water
and lye or ashes). They also told stories of how the clans were
formed, how the earth was made, The story of the Thunder Helper (to
teach people not to be afraid of thunder and lightning)... That is my
favorite memory, the stories and the food (sofkey is actually good once
it's sour too).
I went to the gatherings every year until I was 18 (and sometimes that
trip was way too long). I've been to a few since I turned 18, many
years ago, but none have the "magic" that those did when I was young.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
d'huit - 23 Dec 2004 02:21 GMT
that's soooooo warm and nice, adelle. very sweet celebration. i'm glad you
guys got to stencil/flock your windows with meaningful symbols. glad your
mom got to see that her fears didn't have to come true, too. thank you so
much for sharing all this with us.
i want what you wrote/shared with us to have centerstage and shine. so,
i'll bow out of cluttering this lovely piece of you with my ol' stuff.
kate
> In light of some recent threads, I thought another kind of holiday survey
> might be in order - for those of us whose traditions DO NOT include
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> and there was the occasional anti-Semitic comment, but nothing bad
> happened.