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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 20 Dec 2004 20:05 GMT
First allow me to apologize (and you know who you are).  I had thought
I understood something, and have now come to realization that I
understood nothing.

While a particular post could have been read as condemnation, I don't
believe the subject of that post took it that way.  I certainly did not
mean to infer condemnation, simply asking that the garbage stop.  I see
it won't, and there is nothing to be done for it.

I was wrong in my verbiage, but sometimes that happens, my typing gets
ahead of my brain.  The private email condemning me has been
interesting.  Strangely, it did not come from the subject of that post
(as some would have me believe).

At any rate, I do apologize to any I've offended.  Particularly the
subject, if in fact she was offended.  I've had enough of the crap, and
will now practice as Harvey suggested I should.

Here's hoping that my resolve is stronger now that it has been in the
past.

Smokie Darling (Annie)
Rosemarie Shiver - 20 Dec 2004 21:01 GMT
  Never mistake a basic truth, Smokie. Gimps are stronger, individually and
especially collectively, than anything or any one(s) seeking to bring us
down.

  C'mon in my Inbox any ol' time, Hon. :-)

  One more point: once yer here dealing with Arthur-Itis you're always an
ASA'er! I admire ya muchly and I'm sorry if you're getting any flak. Please
ignore it if you are? It's not fair that you would.

U R Us Gimp Hugs from Rosie

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"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself" -- Meat Loaf, Bat
Outta Hell II

> First allow me to apologize (and you know who you are).  I had thought
> I understood something, and have now come to realization that I
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>
> Smokie Darling (Annie)
Rosemarie Shiver - 20 Dec 2004 21:39 GMT
>   Never mistake a basic truth, Smokie. Gimps are stronger, individually and
>especially collectively, than anything or any one(s) seeking to bring us
>down.

I'm only interested in stopping your harassment of asc-p Rosie. You'd
like to turn this into an attack on everyone but it's not.

Your death squad got to Smokie and forced her to retract what she said
about you in asc-p. I'm not attacking her for that, just pointing out
what happened.

LOL @ Rosie Shiver Hugs from Rosie#2
Lydia Cornett - 20 Dec 2004 21:14 GMT
>First allow me to apologize (and you know who you are).  I had thought
>I understood something, and have now come to realization that I
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>Smokie Darling (Annie)

After her condemnation of Rosie Shiver in asc-p was reposted in
Rosie's other groups.  "Smokie Darling (Annie)" received an email
visit from the Rosie Shiver Death Squad, so she decided to post a
message in alt.support.arthritis today retracting what she said to
Rosie in asc-p yesterday.

I'm not going to condemn you for caving in to the pressure Annie, but
I will repost the important parts of what you said yesterday, so there
can be no doubt as to what you intended:

"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1993@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1103386510.851249.140430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
> Rosie,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>You aren't even pretending to protect someone now, you are
> just posting vileness and hatefulness"

I'm sorry that you were harassed and threatened for having the courage
to condemn Rosie's behavior. It's happened before and it'll happen
again because Rosie and her closest friends are very vindictive.

Forgiving Smokie Hugs from Rosie#2
Harvey R. Stone - 20 Dec 2004 21:53 GMT
> At any rate, I do apologize to any I've offended.  Particularly the
> subject, if in fact she was offended.  I've had enough of the crap, and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Smokie Darling (Annie)

Awwwhhh,,, Annie just be yourself and say what you feel like.   This really
is a support group and we all need each others help.   You have read a few
of my old time friends getting after me every now and then.   We really do
get to know the real you and most of the time that is good enough.
Harv
Rosemarie Shiver - 20 Dec 2004 22:42 GMT
Heya Harv,

  Smokie really IS a darlin' and has my wholehearted loyalty. Only the best
get stuck with Gimpdom, it seems. Hopin' you're staying warm thru the chilly
winds!

Mr. Stone Hugs from Rosie, Annie's Friend :-)

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"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself" -- Meat Loaf, Bat
Outta Hell II

>
> > At any rate, I do apologize to any I've offended.  Particularly the
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> get to know the real you and most of the time that is good enough.
> Harv
ShenMei9 - 20 Dec 2004 23:25 GMT
Annie,
it is almost impossible if you don't know that players to figure out who is the
real Rosie.  Email me if you have questions or if you just want to comment on
the poor soul trying so hard to be Rosie.  He/She is obviously going through a
very hard time and if it gives her/him comfort to pretend to be Rosie, so be
it.  

I have even more respect for our Rosie who understands that this person is in
very difficult straits and who also understands that imitation is indeed
flattery.

So first Annie, block anything with Rosie in the header, subject line, etc. and
then, if that doesn't work, we can sit on our hands together <G>
Johnny one-note - 20 Dec 2004 23:50 GMT
> Annie,
> it is almost impossible if you don't know that players to figure out who is the
> real Rosie.  Email me if you have questions or if you just want to comment on
> the poor soul trying so hard to be Rosie.  He/She is obviously going through a
> very hard time and if it gives her/him comfort to pretend to be Rosie, so be
> it.

Save your pseudo-psychoanalysis for the real Rosie Shiver. If you
bothered to look at any of the vile things she has posted in
alt.support.chronic-pain you would know that she is a very sick person.

She is also an ex-con with a long rap sheet.

ROSEMARIE K SHIVER DOB:  09/1957
Also Known As
ROSEMARIE K VOGEL  DOB:  09/1957    Age:  47
ROSEMARIE H VOGEL  DOB:  09/1957    Age:  47
ROSEMARIE H KRUBSACK DOB: 09/1957 Age:  47
ROSEMARIE H SHIVER  DOB:  02/1955    Age:  49
ROSEMARIE H VOGELSHIVER  DOB:  02/1955    Age:  49
ROSEMARIE H KRUBSACK  DOB: 09/1957 Age:  47
SUSAN C ADAMS DOB 8/1956 Age:  47
SUSAN H AIKIN 8/1956 Age:  47
SUSAN H SMITH 09/1957    Age:  47

GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS
INMATE QUERY

ADAMS, SUSAN C
GDC ID: 0000069368
DOB: 08/16/1956 RACE: WHITE GENDER: FEMALE

INCARCERATION DETAILS
MAJOR OFFENSE: POSS NARCOTICS OPIATES
MOST RECENT INSTITUTION: ATL. WOMEN'S TRANSIT CTR
MAX POSSIBLE RELEASE DATE: 05/20/1983
TENTATIVE PAROLE MONTH: 02/1981
ACTUAL RELEASE DATE: 02/11/1981
CURRENT STATUS: INACTIVE

KNOWN ALIASES
A.K.A. ADAMS,SUSAN CATHYLEEN
A.K.A. AIKIN,SUSAN
A.K.A. SMITH,SUSAN

STATE OF GEORGIA - CURRENT SENTENCES
CASE NO:  122074
OFFENSE:  NOT AVAILABLE
CONVICTION COUNTY: CONVERSION
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 05/07/1978
SENTENCE LENGTH: NOT AVAILABLE
CASE NO:  122074
OFFENSE:  NOT AVAILABLE
CONVICTION COUNTY: CONVERSION
CRIME COMMIT DATE: 05/07/1978
SENTENCE LENGTH: NOT AVAILABLE
CASE NO:  122074
OFFENSE:  POSS NARCOTICS OPIATES
CONVICTION COUNTY: FLOYD COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: N/A
SENTENCE LENGTH: 2 YEARS, 0 MONTHS, 0 DAYS
CASE NO:  122074
OFFENSE:  POSS OF MARIJUANA
CONVICTION COUNTY: FLOYD COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: N/A
SENTENCE LENGTH: NOT AVAILABLE
CASE NO:  122074
OFFENSE:  obstr of law enf officer
CONVICTION COUNTY: FLOYD COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: N/A
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS
CASE NO:  122074
OFFENSE:  public drunkenness
CONVICTION COUNTY: FLOYD COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: N/A
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS
CASE NO:  122074
OFFENSE:  public drunkenness
CONVICTION COUNTY: FLOYD COUNTY
CRIME COMMIT DATE: N/A
SENTENCE LENGTH: 0 YEARS, 12 MONTHS, 0 DAYS
STATE OF GEORGIA - PRIOR SENTENCES
STATE OF GEORGIA - INCARCERATION HISTORY
INCARCERATION BEGIN INCARCERATION END
10/31/1979  02/11/1981
parhame@bellsouth.net - 21 Dec 2004 00:47 GMT
YADA YADA YADA No one cares anymore.
> > Annie,
> > it is almost impossible if you don't know that players to figure out
[quoted text clipped - 85 lines]
> INCARCERATION BEGIN INCARCERATION END
> 10/31/1979  02/11/1981
loose_cannon - 22 Dec 2004 04:44 GMT
<parhame@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:zmKxd.169$g55.1
@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

> YADA YADA YADA No one cares anymore.

then shut up an go about yer business
melodymom - 20 Dec 2004 23:59 GMT
<snip>
> So first Annie, block anything with Rosie in the header, subject line, etc. and
> then, if that doesn't work, we can sit on our hands together <G>

The SOH club.  <G>  But, oh, my poor hands!  LOL

luv&stuff,
Rosie's friend
Denise
 
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