Annie,
It doesn't even take a court order, just the right technology.  I'm
working with cyber guardian angels  on a bizarre thing right now and I
have been amazed to learn that you can find the identity of anyone.
Wasn't the case a few years ago, but it so is now, it is rather
daunting.

I am not actually getting these posts thanks to AOL and preferences
and just picked this up as I needed to do a Google search for a
recipie.  I do worry about newbies feeling intimidated but maybe we
just need to post a little thing once a week or so-I'll write something
up and we can try a trial run.  We have had worse than this poor loser
and killfiling, blocking, etc. will actually get him gone eventually.
And if not, well who cares?  sort of a tree-forest-no one around-thing

Which actually is rather amusing in and of itself-what hapenes to the
angry obscene phone caller when no one answers the phone?  Is a "person
trying to disrupt the newsgroup" (not troll, as I promised my WILPH
friends not to use the word <G>)
really there if we don't see them post?

Ah well, I think I sense some amusing possibilities

Meanwhile, I do continue prayers Ro**ie two's healing

And no, you are not a newbie anymore girl...Have I told you lately how
glad I am you joined this posse?

Are you playing both sides of the street, Annie? This is what you
posted in asc-p. Does it bother you to have your condemnation of Rosie
posted in her other groups? It shouldn't, because you did the right
thing. What are you doing now?

"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1993@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1103386510.851249.140430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Rosie,

You don't know me, we have rarely spoken as I'm somewhat new in most
groups.  Please, you have to see what you are doing is not hurting
anyone but you.  It's beginning to make you look almost crazy.

You've got this vendetta that I don't understand.  Once, several
months
ago, I tried to look up all the pertinent information so I could
understand what you are doing, and why you feel it necessary to bring
up something that is at least 5 years old.  Never could figure it out,
maybe because it went further back than I did, maybe because some of
the people use "X-no archive: Yes"...  I don't know, and anymore I
don't care.

You have people on your side, who will, shall we say, debate anyone
who
disagrees with you.  I won't debate, both sides are wrong.  I have
seen, Rosie, where you are caring and generous (in other groups), and
this persona is so different from the "real Rosie"...  Makes me wonder
which Rosie is real.  The one in the arthritis group, or the one here?

I see where you say that you are upset by what some of the people here
have posted about you, that you have lurked here since the last
outburst.  If you know they are going to write things that you find
hateful, why did you lurk here?  Keep in mind Rosie that those who
know
you, in other groups, are saying you are nothing like this harpie, so
those that matter to you (the ones you have something emotionally
invested in) are not listening to the stuff coming from the "other
Rosie".

You aren't helping any newbies with this.  People leave because they
can't deal with what's going on, not that they feel threatened, it's
just too much ... else ... to try and live with.  I left for a time,
and hadn't even been "attacked" by anyone, it was because I didn't
want
to read the crazy posts.  I came back, maybe they will come back when
things have settled, as long as this pot is being stirred, nothing
will
be settled.

You feel like you have to defend everyone that doesn't know who the
"Other Side" (put in the names of your group for the Other Side) are.
The "other" side feels like they need to defend people against you and
your friends.  If one side stops (with a very notable exception who
can't seem to leave one of the men here alone) why can't the other
side.

Most of us have nothing to say about the arguments that go on here,
because it's pretty difficult to "Google up" the whole story (the
Rosie
story), we don't know when it started, we don't care when it started.
I try to avoid the threads that are obviously nasty, but after a
while,
when the entire first page seems to be nothing but arguing and
bickering, well it's as if both sides are keeping any real information
from being shared.

Can you stop, please?  If they stop, will you stop?  This isn't about
"someone else" anymore, Rosie.  It's about you and "them".  You aren't
even pretending to protect someone now, you are just posting vileness
and hatefulness (and "they" are responding in kind).  Both sides are
wrong now.  Please, can you just stop?

Smokie Darling (Annie)--I apologize for the length of the "missive",
but enough is enough, please?

I have no dog in this fight, but I would like to point out, it may not be
libel but it is defamation of character.

But whatever this is sure takes allot of energy that could be used better
elsewhere

WE LOVE YOU ROSIE!!!

So sorry to see your obsessive/compulsive stalker is at it again and
can't even come up with his own addy.   Pretty sorry when you have to
result to stealing everyone elses addys and illegally forging names and
making up sockpuppets and such.   Yes, this is one majoryly sick stalker
here!!!

Donna G

The fake Rosie posted using a DCHAM address,

Anyone that can read headers only needs to look & see this was posted from
Message-ID: <u6bes0dd3o0na4dib4umh8f4q3v8ubdqq7@4ax.com>

Using
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)

This isn't the real Diane or the real Rosie

So whom is dense?

Alex,

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It seems to me I heard somewhere that A Barna wrote in article
<32tm88F3pt3etU1@individual.net>:

I appreciate that you put a lot of work into this, Alex, but
unfortunately these links won't help in tracking the person who is
stalking Rosie; they lead to Forte, Incorporated, the company that makes
the Agent newsreader.  By default Agent displays "4ax" in its message ID
(it can be set to display the poster's true service provide or other
information);  the "4ax" is an inside reference to the daughter of one
of Forte's founding partners, and the domain is not used in any way for
services.  

Actually the links seem a little out of date; the company started as
Forte, Inc., but was bought quite a while ago by two outside companies
in succession.  A few years ago the founders of Forte bought back their
original company, and used the Dazler name (Dazler is a personal name
associated with one of the founders); the company name has now reverted
to the original Forte, Inc.  Much of the design, programming, sales, and
support work is done by telecommuting, part at the North Carolina
address and the rest, along with administrative matters, at the
California address.

Forte's internet service (Agent Premium News) is simply a provider
(actually, a reseller) of news and is not a service provider.
Subscribers to APN have to access it through their own service
providers.

This particular git is somewhere in the Pacific time zone, if he hasn't
spoofed that part of his headers.  Other attacks on Rosie have
originated at supernews.com and alt.net (and maybe telus.com), and have
been propagated through google.com.  I don't know if it's all one person
or several, but they're not all stamped from the same time zone.

Sorry this is so long, but I wanted to be sure our asa family is aware
of the facts.