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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / December 2004Too bad! This used to be a nice group
The trolls from the chronic pain group, or wherever they have come from, have really f.cked up alt.quit.support.smoking. It used to be a good place for people to go who were nicotine addicts. But now, its been ruined because all that is there, and all that has been there for a while, is some stupid a.s hole's posts against Rosemary. Let me tell you something, pal, and I wouldn't say this to anyone else: I hope you are in a lot of pain, and that every time you look for support, on the newsgroup, through your friends, at your parent's house, in the doctor's office, at the hospital emergency room or at the shrink's office, some a.s hole *just*like*you gets in your way and thwarts whatever efforts, help or support you have hoped to receive. May you suck down pain pills by the bottle while you writhe in pain on the floor, puking, begging, unable to reach a phone. You, troll, are standing in the way of people's healthfulness and happiness, and don't pretend for one second that you are serving anybody but your own narcissistic self. You're not after Rosemary Shiver. All you're doing is typing with your left hand and jacking off with your right. > The trolls from the chronic pain group, or wherever they have come > from, have really f.cked up alt.quit.support.smoking. It used to be a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > narcissistic self. You're not after Rosemary Shiver. All you're doing > is typing with your left hand and jacking off with your right. Did that make ya feel better? Good. Now go f.ck yerself. > The trolls from the chronic pain group, or wherever they have come from, > have really f.cked up alt.quit.support.smoking. It used to be a good place [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > after Rosemary Shiver. All you're doing is typing with your left hand and > jacking off with your right. Come on Mike, quit holding back and tell us how you really feel about this bottom feeding scum sucking dickwad!!! "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> wrote in message news:31hldlF3c3lfvU1@individual.net > And it's posts like these that get you called a liar and that you > twist other people's words. People can understand the original [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > 'Splainin' to xxx from Rosie Hi Mike. Even though you worded it a little differently than I would, you're smack on the button! The troll has tried to dominate several other newsgroups as well as this one. I'm active on alt.med.fibromyalgia, and he/she has been there too. If you can, I'd recommend you "wait it out" - it will get better. Or, come on over to AMF; we may have a few smokers who quit over there. Nanny > The trolls from the chronic pain group, or wherever they have come from, > have really f.cked up alt.quit.support.smoking. It used to be a good place [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > after Rosemary Shiver. All you're doing is typing with your left hand and > jacking off with your right. ***Jumping up and down waving frantically to Nanny- with total surprise that she is here!!!*** Tammy > Hi Mike. Even though you worded it a little differently than I would, > you're smack on the button! The troll has tried to dominate several other [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> You're not after Rosemary Shiver. All you're doing is typing with your >> left hand and jacking off with your right. Is this the same Tammy I knew from AMF? Hey! I'm here too LOL! Are you the "Mike" poster below? Don't be a stranger on AMF! Hugs, Nanny > ***Jumping up and down waving frantically to Nanny- with total surprise > that she is here!!!*** [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> narcissistic self. You're not after Rosemary Shiver. All you're doing is >>> typing with your left hand and jacking off with your right. Nanny scribbled: > Hi Mike. Even though you worded it a little differently than I > would, you're smack on the button! The troll has tried to dominate [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > after Rosemary Shiver. All you're doing is typing with your left > > hand and jacking off with your right. nanny and mike, if you were a regular in the pain group you'd be whining a lot more about Shiver's trolling  SignatureAlan Selig Alan, but we aren't, so we don't. The only places I've met Rosie are on alt.med.fibromyalgia and alt.support.arthritis. You could be talking about a "stranger" for all we know of Rosie on those 2 newsgroups I mentioned. I have chronic pain, but I don't frequent ASCP; I'd sure hate to be over there right now with all that is going on. I don't know you, and you don't know me. AMF and ASA are the ng's where I utilize my time and energies - trying to help others, not tearing them down. I see I'm crossposting, so I apologize and won't participate anymore in this Rosie thread. SignatureNanny I am Woman; I am Invincible; I am tired! > Nanny scribbled: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > if you were a regular in the pain group you'd be whining a lot more > about Shiver's trolling "Roast Child with Cornbread Stuffing" was not posted by me see "University of Wisconsin" in the headers complaint sent to abuse@doit.wisc.edu Alan Selig Xref: news alt.support.chronic-pain:258951 alt.med.fibromyalgia:667695 alt.quit.smoking.support:58834 alt.support.arthritis:445819 alt.support.stop-smoking:843580 From: "Alan Selig" <alanselig@hotmailremovethis.com> Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain,alt.med.fibromyalgia,alt.quit.smoking.support,a lt.support.arthritis,alt.support.stop-smoking Subject: Re: Too bad! This used to be a nice group Followup-To: news.admin.net-abuse.email Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 05:28:02 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 49 Approved: "Alan Selig" <alanselig@hotmailremovethis.com> Message-ID: <wi2arbkvdxee80108@news.individual.net> References: <NoIsd.175579$cJ3.148622@fed1read06> <41d01118_2@newspeer2.tds.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.151.25.37 X-Trace: news.doit.wisc.edu 1104226053 16844 146.151.25.37 (28 Dec 2004 09:27:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@doit.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Leviticus 26:29 Roast Child with Cornbread Stuffing Turkey may be substituted for this classic holiday feast. Although time consuming, this dish seems to take longer than it actually does; as the entire house is filled with such a heavenly aroma, the waiting becomes almost unbearable. 1 whole child, cleaned and de-headed 1 batch cornbread stuffing (see index) ? cup melted butter Remove the giblets from the infant and set aside. Stuff the cavity where the child?s genitals and anus were located using ? cup per pound of meat. Tie the arms flat to the body, then pull the skin flaps up to close the cavity. Now tie the thighs up tight to hold it all together. Place breast side up in a large metal roasting pan. Bake in 325? oven covered for 2 hours. Remove cover, stick a cooking thermometer deep into one of the baby?s buttocks and cook uncovered till thermometer reads 190?, about another hour. Pro-Choice Po-Boy Soft-shelled crabs serve just as well in this classic southern delicacy. The sandwich originated in New Orleans, where an abundance of abortion clinics thrive and hot French bread is always available. 2 cleaned fetuses, head on 2 eggs 1 tablespoon yellow mustard 1 cup seasoned flour oil enough for deep frying 1 loaf French bread Lettuce tomatoes mayonnaise, etc. Marinate the fetuses in the egg-mustard mixture. Dredge thoroughly in flour. Fry at 375? until crispy golden brown. Remove and place on paper Alan this may not have been your post. I believe you. But why did you not delete it from your response (like I did here). Why did you feel the need to expose people to that filth that may have not been exposed to it already. I am not being judgmental, Just pointing out that you could have been more sensitive to others by editing the post. Ned > "Roast Child with Cornbread Stuffing" was not posted by me > see "University of Wisconsin" in the headers > complaint sent to abuse@doit.wisc.edu Ned scribbled: > Alan > this may not have been your post. I believe you. But why did you not [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > see "University of Wisconsin" in the headers > > complaint sent to abuse@doit.wisc.edu thank you for believing me. i didn't clip it because i didn't think it was bad, just stupid. sorry if it bothered you. i was just shocked that someone like nanny would forge anyone's name on a message. SignatureAlan Selig > thank you for believing me. > i didn't clip it because i didn't think it was bad, just stupid. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Alan Selig Do you really expect us to conclude that Nanny did any such thing? Smells like a setup to me, and this is no new thing here lately. Unfortunately. >> thank you for believing me. >> i didn't clip it because i didn't think it was bad, just stupid. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Do you really expect us to conclude that Nanny did any such thing? Smells >like a setup to me, and this is no new thing here lately. Unfortunately. So Nannies really don't stuff & eat their charges? Signature"patients who undertake opioid maintenance therapy should behave in a way that is beyond reproach or suspicion in all matters relating to their use of medications. Patients who are unwilling or unable to do so jeopardize not only their own health and safety, but the health and safety of other patients with chronic pain." -- Dr. Hurwitz Actually I do not know who posted this and do not rightly care. I am confident that the post did not come from Nanny. I trust that she didn't Was the "Ned "scribbled:"" some sort of comment on my post? > Ned scribbled: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > i was just shocked that someone like nanny would forge anyone's name on > a message. Ned scribbled: > Actually I do not know who posted this and do not rightly care. I am > confident that the post did not come from Nanny. I trust that she > didn't > > Was the "Ned "scribbled:"" some sort of comment on my post? no ned. my newsreader puts that in all of my replies. SignatureAlan Selig Thank you Ned, especially since we just "met" on the ng recently. I have no idea what this is about; yes, it's a set-up; but those who know me, know that already. Nanny > Actually I do not know who posted this and do not rightly care. I am > confident that the post did not come from Nanny. I trust that she didn't [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> i was just shocked that someone like nanny would forge anyone's name on >> a message. <mwbourgeois@gmail.com <mailto:mwbourgeois@gmail.com>> wrote in message <news:1104258677.826044.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> > This post came from a comprimised host on the UW network. The > building it was located in is closed for the semester break. The > host has had network access revoked. > > Marc > University of Wisconsin -- ResNet how do we know this one isn't a forgery too? just a coincidence that nanny and the forger were posting from the same server with the same information in their headers? just a coincidence that nanny and the forger were posting recipes in the same thread? the forger did forge different names on similar posts other groups, so i don't know what to believe. i apologize to nanny for accusing her without sufficient evidence. SignatureAlan Selig > <mwbourgeois@gmail.com <mailto:mwbourgeois@gmail.com>> wrote in message > <news:1104258677.826044.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > -- > Alan Selig Oh, brrroththerrr! And butter won't melt in _his_ moth ,eh? So did Alan just fall off the turnip truck or does he just think all of us did? Pardon my lapse into ad-hominem attacks, and I do sooooo appologize for saying this, with or without sufficient evidence, but Alan Selig is an ignorant jerk of a troll. If you're really good for the rest of the year, maybe Mike-UK will send you some troll bicuits. Ppppppppbbbbbbththththththt! saavik scribbled: > > <mwbourgeois@gmail.com <mailto:mwbourgeois@gmail.com>> wrote in > > message <news:1104258677.826044.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > for saying this, with or without sufficient evidence, but Alan Selig > is an ignorant jerk of a troll. somebody forged my name and email address on a message. nanny posts from the university of wisconsin. the forgery had most of the same information that is in her headers. nanny said she would stop posting in this thread and then she posted some recipes. the forgery was a recipe that's why i thought it was nanny. anyone else in the same situation would have thought the same thing. i apologized for accusing her. take a look at this http://tinyurl.com/5oscs whoever did all the forging was very busy last night. SignatureAlan Selig Lies, all lies, Alan, whoever you are! You (or whoever)even mis-spelled one digit of our E-mail addy (shared only by my husband and me). I live nowhere near Wisconsin, nor am I connected in anyway with a university there. But, why am I even bothering to defend myself????? My friends on the ng know better. Thanks to all of them for recognizing a ploy to defame my character. Nanny > saavik scribbled: > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > http://tinyurl.com/5oscs > whoever did all the forging was very busy last night. > Lies, all lies, Alan, whoever you are! You (or whoever)even > mis-spelled one digit of our E-mail addy (shared only by my husband > and me). I live nowhere near Wisconsin, nor am I connected in anyway > with a university there. But, why am I even bothering to defend > myself????? My friends on the ng know better. Thanks to all of them > for recognizing a ploy to defame my character. Nanny welcome to usenet :( Signature/(bb|[^b]{2})/ that is the Question ThePsyko Public Enemy #7 http://prozac.iscool.net Nanny scribbled: > Lies, all lies, Alan, whoever you are! You (or whoever)even > mis-spelled one digit of our E-mail addy (shared only by my husband > and me). I live nowhere near Wisconsin, nor am I connected in anyway > with a university there. But, why am I even bothering to defend > myself????? My friends on the ng know better. Thanks to all of them > for recognizing a ploy to defame my character. Nanny i did not realize till now that the recipe that was posted under your name was also a forgery. the beginning looked legitimate and i didn't bother to read it all the way through. now i understand why people are saying i forged you. i didn't though. we were both victimized by the same forger and that person posted a lot of other forgeries yesterday. i posted this link so everyone could see that a lot of forgeries with recipes in them were posted from that server. http://tinyurl.com/5oscs if you bother to look you'll see that these forgeries weren't some ploy to defame you. i already said i made a mistake. i jumped to the wrong conclusion based on incomplete information. if you or your friends prefer to blame me for forging you instead of checking out the link then isn't that as bad if not worse than my initially blaming you? can we just forget this now and move on? SignatureAlan Selig Okay Alan. I think you're telling the truth. Yes, let's move on.....we both got "took". Nanny > Nanny scribbled: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > can we just forget this now and move on? Complaints about cross-posting and trolling to: abuse@sympatico.ca > Ppppppppbbbbbbththththththt! > Complaints about cross-posting and trolling to: > abuse@sympatico.ca > > > Ppppppppbbbbbbththththththt! Huh?? so who are the real trolls, and who are the fakes? in amf saavik is not a troll. neither is Nanny my first/last cross-post on this, sorry for the intrusion. Please, before accusing someone, check the archives. and then make sense in your accusations.. Again i say, Please, for the newbies who are not use to flaming troll fests and the ruckus that follows onward & upwards...... Signaturelynn > > Complaints about cross-posting and trolling to: > > abuse@sympatico.ca [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > lynn Thanks for speaking up for us Lampy. I would hope most everyone in AMF would know that neither Nanny or I would post such (ob)noxious things. > Complaints about cross-posting and trolling to: > abuse@sympatico.ca > > > Ppppppppbbbbbbththththththt! Well I certainly hope you reported Selig, seeing as he's been forging posts in Nanny's name. See post by Alan Selig (Nanny <dor1chas@tds.net> is a message forger) and response by mwbourgeois@gmail.com: "This post came from a comprimised host on the UW network. The building it was located in is closed for the semester break. The host has had network access revoked. Marc University of Wisconsin -- ResNet" Ya' see I've known Nanny on AMF for years and she would never post the trash that has been attributed to her name. Selig, OTOH, only just showed up as an obnoxious crossposting jerk. I don't know how to tell which group you (firechief) posted from, otherwise I would have replied only to that group. saavik scribbled: > Well I certainly hope you reported Selig, seeing as he's been forging > posts in Nanny's name. that is not true. it was my name that was forged on a post. not nanny. > just showed up as an obnoxious crossposting jerk. until you get your facts straight it looks like you have a lock on that title. SignatureAlan Selig > saavik scribbled: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > Alan Selig <Blink!> My _facts_ are spot on, for the purposes of choosing between you and Nanny. Until you get your _head_ straight, your maunderings matter not at all. saavik scribbled: > > saavik scribbled: > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > you and Nanny. > Until you get your head straight, your maunderings matter not at all. you told firechief that he should report me for forging a post by nanny. that never happened. you just won't admit you made a mistake. SignatureAlan Selig > saavik scribbled: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > Alan Selig I believe it did; wanna' arm-wrestle over it? :>P Firechief can be found on alt.support.arthritis. Don't know him well. You know what, Rene? It doesn't matter. You said it well - the ones who really know US know all the sickening posts were forged with our names. Nanny >> Complaints about cross-posting and trolling to: >> abuse@sympatico.ca [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > otherwise I > would have replied only to that group. Um, thanks for the info on Firechief, Nanny. Btw, this is me, Saavik, not Rene. But that's OK. The people who know you both, know better than to believe the forgeries. > Firechief can be found on alt.support.arthritis. Don't know him well. You > know what, Rene? It doesn't matter. You said it well - the ones who really [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > otherwise I > > would have replied only to that group. Alan, you damn well DO owe me a apology! This is someone else's idea of a sick joke! Don't jump to conclusions, no matter what the header may say, especially when you don't know me. The real Nanny, who posted no recent recipes and who shares a server with my husband. > <mwbourgeois@gmail.com <mailto:mwbourgeois@gmail.com>> wrote in message > <news:1104258677.826044.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > i apologize to nanny for accusing her without sufficient evidence. ><mwbourgeois@gmail.com <mailto:mwbourgeois@gmail.com>> wrote in message ><news:1104258677.826044.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > ***************** Well, if you only knew (((Nanny)))!!!! She's been here a lot longer than me & I think I've been here since '98. I also have lurked ascp for at least a yr & I can tell ya don't Even bring any more crap over here. I mean, I mean (lol, I can hear Arlo Guthrie's voice sayin' that from "Alice's Restaurant"), you can't even begin to comprehend what a joke this is...it's on you cuz We Know Nanny!!! God, lurk a while & get to know folx for cripe's sake, hey? I mean if you're real & not a Troll. LoriB.o.B. ps-if you "apologize to nanny for accusing her w/o sufficient evidence." you better start lickin' all our boots. > ps-if you "apologize to nanny for accusing her w/o sufficient evidence." > you better start lickin' all our boots. Who the hell do you think you are? Maybe your husband likes your dominatrix act, but it doesn't belong here. No one has to answer to you. No one has to prove anything to you. Susan Adams > > ps-if you "apologize to nanny for accusing her w/o sufficient > evidence." [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Susan Adams Well, ya' know, Lori has some justification considering what the multiple trolls have put all our ngs through. And as far as your response, have you checked your mirror lately? > > > ps-if you "apologize to nanny for accusing her w/o sufficient > > evidence." [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Well, ya' know, Lori has some justification considering what the > multiple trolls have put all our ngs through. No she doesn't. You can't use the trolls to justfy mistreating a newbie. Alan overreacted when he saw his name forged and he made a mistake when he accused Nanny, but he apologized for it. Nanny accepted his apology, but you continue attacking him with nasty remarks like this: "Alan Selig is an ignorant jerk of a troll." "Well I certainly hope you reported Selig, seeing as he's been forging posts in Nanny's name." Have you apologized to Alan yet for your mistakes? And where is Alan now? It sure looks like you and Lori ran him off with your attacks on him after he and Nanny had already resolved their differences. > And as far as your > response, have you checked your mirror lately? Did I tell anyone "you better start lickin' all our boots?" You and Lori should look in YOUR mirrors and you'll both see obnoxious, controlling, self-appointed netkops staring back at you. > > > > ps-if you "apologize to nanny for accusing her w/o sufficient > > > evidence." [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > You and Lori should look in YOUR mirrors and you'll both see obnoxious, > controlling, self-appointed netkops staring back at you. "netkops!!!???" Now where have I heard that term before, Hmmm? *sniff* *sniff* Yep, ordure de Troll, fersure. For all I know, and as Alan himself pointed out, it is impossible to know for sure who is spoofing whom, so you may very well _be_ Alan. Take a hike sister Sue. I don't need a third rate troll groupie with control issues critiquing my posts. >> > > > ps-if you "apologize to nanny for accusing her w/o sufficient >> > > evidence." [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Take a hike sister Sue. I don't need a third rate troll groupie with > control issues critiquing my posts. ITYM NetKKKops? :) Signature/(bb|[^b]{2})/ that is the Question ThePsyko Public Enemy #7 http://prozac.iscool.net > > > > > ps-if you "apologize to nanny for accusing her w/o sufficient > > > > evidence." [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Take a hike sister Sue. I don't need a third rate troll groupie with > control issues critiquing my posts. Take a hike? Who died and left you in charge? You're the one with control issues and you're the one critiquing other people's posts. But don't call you a netkop, because anyone who would do that simply must be a troll... > > > > > > ps-if you "apologize to nanny for accusing her w/o sufficient > > > > > evidence." [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > But don't call you a netkop, because anyone who would do that simply > must be a troll... Your getting repetetive and boooorrrring! > ps-if you "apologize to nanny for accusing her w/o sufficient evidence." > you better start lickin' all our boots. Who the hell do you think you are? Maybe your husband likes your dominatrix act, but it doesn't belong here. No one has to answer to you. No one has to prove anything to you. Susan Adams Besides knowing that it couldn't have been Nanny, the same posts had shown up earlier in alt.folklore.urban. > ><mwbourgeois@gmail.com <mailto:mwbourgeois@gmail.com>> wrote in message > ><news:1104258677.826044.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > ps-if you "apologize to nanny for accusing her w/o sufficient evidence." > you better start lickin' all our boots. > <mwbourgeois@gmail.com <mailto:mwbourgeois@gmail.com>> wrote in message > <news:1104258677.826044.101720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > -- > Alan Selig I had someone "steal" my address book, and send spam, virus', etc. Technology is a great thing, but sometimes, there is a price to pay. ;=) I am Vicky, by the way, who has posted on this group before, but wanted to refresh your memory of who was posting! I suffer from lupus but my main complaint is fibromyalgia. ::growls:: I am trying to get over this minor flair caused by working nights while my children are out of school. I enjoy this group. All groups have trolls and major OT's, but for the most part, I have got to read quite a bit of good information. Take care all. V -- "Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living" -Mother Jones Ned, this is a very sick thing for Alan to do. As you know, I am Nanny and there is no way that I'd stoop to post such cruel garbage. Hope you are doing well today! SignatureNanny I am Woman; I am Invincible; I am tired! > Alan > this may not have been your post. I believe you. But why did you not [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> see "University of Wisconsin" in the headers >> complaint sent to abuse@doit.wisc.edu > complaint sent to abuse@doit.wisc.edu Alan, I did not see a "path" statement in the header you posted. I also spotted this line where your complaint should be sent: > Message-ID: <wi2arbkvdxee80108@news.individual.net> >> complaint sent to abuse@doit.wisc.edu > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> Message-ID: <wi2arbkvdxee80108@news.individual.net> someone ran a script faking headers senders with these sick recipes to quite a few usenet newsgroups from boxing day onwards. -- Andy This post came from a comprimised host on the UW network. The building it was located in is closed for the semester break. The host has had network access revoked. Marc University of Wisconsin -- ResNet |
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