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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / December 2004OTP: Best sellers - thin books (highly political)
From: <tom@on-line.com> To: <joe@jjfpd.gov> Subject: Worlds thinnest Books(updated) Date: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:05 HOW I SERVED MY COUNTRY /by/ Jane Fonda ** MY BEAUTY SECRETS /by/ Janet Reno ** HOW TO BUILD YOUR OWN AIRPLANE /by/ John Denver ** MY SUPER BOWL HIGHLIGHTS /by/ Dan Marino ** THINGS I LOVE ABOUT BILL /by/ Hillary Clinton ** MY LITTLE BOOK OF PERSONAL HYGIENE /by/ Osama Bin Laden ** THINGS I CANNOT AFFORD /by/ Bill Gates ** THINGS I WOULD NOT DO FOR MONEY /by/ Dennis Rodman ** MY WILD YEARS /by/ Al Gore ** AMELIA EARHART'S GUIDE TO THE PACIFIC ** AMERICA'S MOST POPULAR LAWYERS ** DETROIT: a Travel Guide ** A COLLECTION of MOTIVATIONAL SPEECHES /by/ Dr. J. Kevorkian ** ALL THE MEN I HAVE LOVED BEFORE /by/ Ellen de Generes ** GUIDE TO DATING ETIQUETTE /by/ Mike Tyson ** SPOTTED OWL RECIPES /by/ the EPA ** THE AMISH PHONE DIRECTORY ** MY PLAN TO FIND THE REAL KILLERS /by/ O. J. Simpson ** YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME by Scott Peterson** ** /And the world's Number One /Thinnest/ Book / MY BOOK OF MORALS /by/ Bill Clinton with introduction /by/ The Rev. Jessie Jackson* Those would be short all right! > From: <tom@on-line.com> > To: <joe@jjfpd.gov> [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] > with introduction > /by/ The Rev. Jessie Jackson* you forgot: How to Avoid Bigotry and Superficiality by firechief Now that's funny...>lol< johnie > you forgot: > > How to Avoid Bigotry and Superficiality > by firechief > Now that's funny...>lol< > > johnie Truth hurts huh boys but it always gets the same response. Harv >> Now that's funny...>lol< >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Harv maybeeee. let's see if this does get the same response. it's a "highly political" thread, right? so, i'm allowed --- i know of a few book titles for the thinnest books list that were left off the list: "WMDs We Found in Iraq (March, 2003- Dec., 2004)" by G.W. Bush (might take the prize for the thinnest book yet) and "The Rumsfield's Guide for Conducting War in Iraq" -- this book is better known by the title: "Cheap, Cheap, Cheap: The Birdsong Plan" a thin book, but not the thinnest. and "Ashcroft's Constitutional Rights and Other Such Nonsense" -- another thin book, but not the thinnest. and "Chaney's: What a V.P. Knows that Congress and the Press Doesn't Know About WMDs in Iraq (vol. one)" this book could be a runner up for first place, by the author's own admission. now, doesn't everybody feel much better about the "fair and balanced" thinnest book list? <winkies>kate >>> Now that's funny...>lol< >>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > <winkies>kate LOL,,, Well said..... Harv >> now, doesn't everybody feel much better about the "fair and balanced" >> thinnest book list? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > LOL,,, Well said..... > Harv Ps My real point is that Chief was wrong to post political humor in ASA. To reply to it with the same old down the nose name calling of the left is also wrong. On the other hand, to recommend that people read books even one sided books,,, a person could learn something. Harv >>> now, doesn't everybody feel much better about the "fair and balanced" >>> thinnest book list? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > To reply to it with the same old down the nose name calling of the left is > also wrong. ***i agree with both of your points, harv, though i can easily understand the response, because frustration tends to shift one's response towards reaction in a personal way. we are only human, afterall. > On the other hand, to recommend that people read books even one sided > books,,, a person could learn something. > Harv <smile> you do learn a lot about a person from their individual reading materials list. personally, i tend to be very eclectic in my choices of "informative" reading materials and even broadcast news sources--- cuz i sense there's a little bit of truth in almost (and i'm stressing the word "almost" here) every perspective, but ya gotta dig for that truth, sometimes. kate > you forgot: > > How to Avoid Bigotry and Superficiality > by firechief I had the idea that firechief was providing a service to those convinced the GOP has America's interests at heart. These poor folks obviously cannot read a whole real book. P.S. The above comment was intended to be satirical. :) P.S.S. A legthy and provocative booklist was NOT included in this post as a mark of respect and recognition that it may be a tad OTT even in this thread. I want my biscuit! ;) P.S.S.S. Why do so many Americans feel the need to have a flag hanging in there rooms, outside their homes, in their schoolrooms etc.? D'yall keep forgettin' where y'all are? ;)  Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ http://www.mikeswebsite.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ http://www.deja-moo.co.uk/~mikesweb/ > P.S.S.S. Why do so many Americans feel the need to have a > flag hanging in there rooms, outside their homes, in their > schoolrooms etc.? D'yall keep forgettin' where y'all are? ;) I can understand why you would ask this question. It is all some people can do to remind others that how this country was set up and how is was lived for 150 years is being taken away from the people in this country. Slowly, bit by bit, school by school, church by church, parade by parade, judge by judge the work of dedicated people continues. Your humor is very much to the point but what is being done is not being done by dumb or uneducated people,,, quite the reverse. There is an old saying that I can not quite remember for them to win,,,, all we have to do is nothing..... If all they know how to do is to put a flag on the front of their house,,, so be it. 60 million people did something about it the other day........ and it was still not enough. Harv Mike UK. wrote: >>P.S.S.S. Why do so many Americans feel the need to have a >>flag hanging in there rooms, outside their homes, in their [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > 60 million people did something about it the other day........ and it was > still not enough. Harv, Don't you think that the minority of 50 million did as much as the 60. Wasn't the most important thing that happened on election day the participation in a democracy. I refuse to believe that voting in the minority was of any less value than the majority. Without the participation of the minority there is no chance of a democracy. In the 2000 presidential election did you feel any less valued because you voted in the minority? I bet you didn't. Participating and caring is the only chance we have of keeping a nation free. IMO johnie well said, Johnie. Participatory being the key word that come before democracy m > In the 2000 presidential election did you feel any less valued because you > voted in the minority? I bet you didn't. Participating and caring is the > only chance we have of keeping a nation free. IMO > > johnie That is a very good point but changes nothing about what I said above. Every vote is important. Every vote in the ELE. Collage is more important and how elections are won even when you have state supreme courts that will not answer the Supreme Court about their actions. That is one example of do anything to win and that point of view will ruin America. That point of view is not going win in eastern Europe because they have a supreme court that believe in the LAW also. Harv Writing as a combat veteran (and with GREAT respect for our flag, AND for the flags of other countries) I am quite annoyed with these people who plaster the flag all over their cars without any idea of the correct way to display it, who stick it out at night, unlit, or tack it to a tree in their front yard, leave it out in the rain, fly it torn and/or tattered, and, in general, show less respect for our flag than do many of our enemies. I think that these are the same people who think that shoving a flag in someone's face and DARING them to object is patriotism. It is not. Patriotism is NOT about waving a flag and pounding one's chest while grunting threats at all who look, speak or act differently. Patriotism is about making sure that your neighbors are safe, even the ones you don't like. It's about caring for the sick and helpless. Patriotism is about NOT objecting to paying school tax "because I don't have any children". The more children who get a good education, the better society will be. Patriotism is doing what you can to make sure that your country is the best it can be for everybody. > > P.S.S.S. Why do so many Americans feel the need to have a > > flag hanging in there rooms, outside their homes, in their [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > still not enough. > Harv Beautifully said, Norman. m Hi Norman,,,, I agree with much of what you have said but you are replying to what I have said and I need you to show me how it applies to what I have said or what I have said need adjustment because of what you have said. Harv > Writing as a combat veteran (and with GREAT respect for our flag, AND for > the flags of other countries) I am quite annoyed with these people who [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> still not enough. >> Harv I missed your original reply, and so I'm piggy-backing on this one instead... > >> > P.S.S.S. Why do so many Americans feel the need to have a > >> > flag hanging in there rooms, outside their homes, in their > >> > schoolrooms etc.? D'yall keep forgettin' where y'all are? ;) T'was not much more than a gentle ribbing, but I must confess to not understanding this rather American thing. > >> I can understand why you would ask this question. It is all some > >> people > >> can do to remind others that how this country was set up and how is was > >> lived for 150 years is being taken away from the people in this country. So in some way it is a continued celebration of the spirit that threw out the British and claimed self-determination? A kind of "Know who you're dealing with here!" statement? Sounds like something I'd do myself under those circumstances. :) > >> Slowly, bit by bit, school by school, church by church, parade by parade, > >> judge by judge the work of dedicated people continues. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >> the > >> front of their house,,, so be it. Ok, I think I'm getting the idea, a bit. My model (based on experience) of those who wave flags is the British National Front organisation (every nation has some somewhere, like a cold virus) and other mental defectives that use their nation's flag to represent violence and other objectionable activities. (See the skinheads in "51st State"). I suppose that many other people with similar experience/ideas might just as easily see the American enthusiasm for the S&S without understanding this essential difference. This possibly being more common that might be thought, it could also explain some Americans becoming a tad confused and defensive when questioned about the practice. > >> 60 million people did something about it the other day........ and it > >> was > >> still not enough. On the up-side, 60 million real Americans stood proud and were counted (or not, depending on Diebold records - Joke!) The actions of those 60 million may not have countered the madness that has gained such a grip on American politics, not this time around, but it HAS created a new precidence, and I have a good feeling that things now CAN and WILL get better as a result, somewhere down the line. Don't forget, those insane buggers have been working behind the scenes for a long long time. It may take a little longer to re-claim America back from their coup. Kicking the British out wasn't an overnight thing either, and this is no small task today. Banana Republicans Sheldon Rampton & John Stauber ISBN 1-84119-946-X ...might give you a few ideas. P.S. I'd like to point out that I didn't intend what was a casual and humorous comment to become political, and request that if anybody feels like adding anything, to remember that nobody is "having a go" and anybody. Be nice? :) Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ http://www.mikeswebsite.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ http://www.deja-moo.co.uk/~mikesweb/ > I missed your original reply, and so I'm piggy-backing on > this one instead... and I thank you for your input and understanding. Harv > > I missed your original reply, and so I'm piggy-backing on > > this one instead... > > and I thank you for your input and understanding. > Harv So I got a reasonabley representative idea of what things are about then? (Clue? :) Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ http://www.mikeswebsite.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ http://www.deja-moo.co.uk/~mikesweb/ > So I got a reasonabley representative idea of what things > are about then? (Clue? :) I will let others answer that if they want to. On your first post on this, they responded to me and not to you. You might need to hear from someone else. Harv > > So I got a reasonabley representative idea of what things > > are about then? (Clue? :) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > else. > Harv Sure, no problem. Its something I never really got the hang of myself, so I'd be interested in other's POV on this one. As long as its understood that I'm NOT interested in challenging anything here, just inquiring about something of recent interest to me. Just to start off, I'll offer a thought on my feelings about where I live... I live in the north of England, and consider myself a "Northerner". I consider that I have more in common with the Scots that what appears to me to be quite a different country in the south of the British Isles, namely London and its surrounding districts. I suppose a lot of people "up north" might share my (slightly comical) view that Hadrian's Wall was built too far north, and should have been somewhat lower on the map, separating the "Romans" in London from us "Northerners". ;) When you see the wealth creation and wealth distribution figures of the UK, you can see that there is a pretty good argument for building a new wall just north of the lower "chunk" of the UK and declaring an independant Republic of Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, and Humberside etc. ;) I still don't get it with the flag thing though. Mind you, I had to have someone explain the mass interest in football once, and I still don't get that either. 8\ So there you have it folks. How do you explain to a chap like me why a flag is so important? Signature--------------------------- Another squeaking wheel @ http://www.mikeswebsite.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ http://www.deja-moo.co.uk/~mikesweb/ well said, Norman. SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare Because we are proud. Its not because we are forgetting where we are...it because we remember where we are and feel fortunate. Janet R "Mike-UK" <Mike@N.UK> wrote in message | P.S.S.S. Why do so many Americans feel the need to have a | flag hanging in there rooms, outside their homes, in their | schoolrooms etc.? D'yall keep forgettin' where y'all are? ;) frankly, it bothers me. I was taught EVERYWHERE growing up that if you are going to display the flag, you must treat it with honor, i.e. not fly it during storms, not fly it at night unless illuminated, never let the flag touch the ground, burn or bury it when it becomes delapidated (sp?), and when hanging on a wall or in a window, display it correctly with the "union" or field of stars must be on the flag's right/viewer's left. Lots of folks now think that if they stick a flag anywhere, anywhich way and leave it there forever (i.e. ignore it) it shows they are a patriot. I contend that I honor the flag more by admitting I cannot care for a flying flag as I was taught (2 chronic illnesses and all that) and therefore choose to not fly it rather than fly it without honor. JMHO. SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare > Because we are proud. Its not because we are forgetting where we > are...it because we remember where we are and feel fortunate. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> flag hanging in there rooms, outside their homes, in their >> schoolrooms etc.? D'yall keep forgettin' where y'all are? ;) > frankly, it bothers me. I was taught EVERYWHERE growing > up that if you are going to display the flag, you must treat it > with honor, i.e. not fly it during storms,........ That was because of the material. Today's flags are made of stronger fabrics that don't tear and fade as earlier ones did. On the other points, remember that even our Constituion has lasted through 27 amendments. Times change, rules change. > > frankly, it bothers me. I was taught EVERYWHERE growing > > up that if you are going to display the flag, you must treat it > > with honor, i.e. not fly it during storms,........ > > That was because of the material. Today's flags are made of > stronger fabrics that don't tear and fade as earlier ones did. Not all of them. There are some very ratty, frayed, and faded flags in my neighborhood. SignatureAF "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team." --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball >> > frankly, it bothers me. I was taught EVERYWHERE growing >> > up that if you are going to display the flag, you must treat it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Not all of them. There are some very ratty, frayed, and faded flags in > my neighborhood. Well Key's flag was flying at night, lit only by rockets. My understanding is that one of the tasks the VFW takes on is seeing to it that flags are treated with respect and retired when appropriate. It there is a really bad example about you might call them and they might check into it. Jo >> frankly, it bothers me. I was taught EVERYWHERE growing >> up that if you are going to display the flag, you must treat it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > On the other points, remember that even our Constituion has > lasted through 27 amendments. Times change, rules change. While I agree with what you have said about the actual fabric, what you have said does not include the reason that is most important. The respect and love for ones country which includes the flag, which is represented by the flag. While what you have said is true about the Constitutions amendments being 27 and it has lasted but it is not a living document to be changed at will but only after lengthy debate where all sides are heard at length. It must be painful for all sides. Harv I have to admit, while I was happy that the Italian born lady next door made a point of putting up a flag for special holidays, I'm thrilled by our new across the street neighbor. They have a flag up 24/7 lit at night. Except in foul weather. I just plain feel good when I see it. We won't get into what I think of flags flown at places of business though. In particular the grossly oversized ones, or the ones that aren't well cared for. The VFW usually deals with the uncared for one though. Jo > frankly, it bothers me. I was taught EVERYWHERE growing up that if you > are [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> flag hanging in there rooms, outside their homes, in their >>> schoolrooms etc.? D'yall keep forgettin' where y'all are? ;) Our flag flies 24/7/365. We just replaced it yesterday since the one we had had started to fade. We had 50 mph winds on Friday and the flag ripped on one corner. Yesterday we replaced it. We will never display a flag in a disrespectful manner. At night we have our porch light on all night so that the flag is lighted properly. I fully agree that to display the flag incorrectly is a sign of disrespect. From a veteran married to a veteran, DeeTee ________________________________ DeeTee and Bob Taggart http://www.marykay.com/dtaggart3 http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ ________________________________ > frankly, it bothers me. I was taught EVERYWHERE growing up that if you > are [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> flag hanging in there rooms, outside their homes, in their >>> schoolrooms etc.? D'yall keep forgettin' where y'all are? ;) Mike-UK wrote and asked: > P.S.S.S. Why do so many Americans feel the need to have > a flag hanging in there rooms, outside their homes, in their > schoolrooms etc.? D'yall keep forgettin' where y'all are? ;) For the same reason we have a cross (crucifix) and photos of family members, pets and loved ones. The flag is a symbol of the country we love and for which many have died defending the liberties we have against the Nazis, kamikaze Japs, Arab terrorists, Oklahoma City bombers, et al. |
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