Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / December 2004
Very much on topic,,,, RA lung,,,, TB and me
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Harvey R. Stone - 30 Nov 2004 22:47 GMT Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the scaring in both lungs.... I go in the morning to have a real breath test to form a base line for the future. The little one I took today in the doctors office showed that I was normal. He got very serious about the positive TB test. Tomorrow I start on ISONIAZID for 8 months which can be very hard on a persons liver. Sooo, its back to once a month on blood tests and I have to watch my type 2 blood testing very closely and Noooo alcohol,, at all. Doesn't that just make a person shake their head???? Not doing anything about the RA lung but a big deal about the TB which can not be seen on CT scan. So it goes and that starts tomorrow..... Today's for now,,,,, its a little bourbon an distilled water going down smooth. I just bought some too.. Aaah well,, it gets better with age,,, 8 months of age and this hi-powered antibiotic. So it goes. Sorry if I have been kind of crabby lately. Getting this done had me going for a few days. Boy, I did not like all those white lines,,,scars and it really is a good thing I stopped smoking 25 or so years ago. Harv
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debbie m. - 30 Nov 2004 22:57 GMT (((((((((((((Harv))))))))))
glad you have a dx anyway
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> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you? Smokie Darling (Annie) - 30 Nov 2004 23:05 GMT Harvey R. Stone: Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the scaring in both lungs.... I go in the morning to have a real breath test to form a base line for the future. The little one I took today in the doctors office showed that I was normal. He got very serious about the positive TB test. Tomorrow I start on ISONIAZID for 8 months which can be very hard on a persons liver. Sooo, its back to once a month on blood tests and I have to watch my type 2 blood testing very closely and Noooo alcohol,, at all. Doesn't that just make a person shake their head???? Not doing anything about the RA lung but a big deal about the TB which can not be seen on CT scan. So it goes and that starts tomorrow..... Today's for now,,,,, its a little bourbon an distilled water going down smooth. I just bought some too.. Aaah well,, it gets better with age,,, 8 months of age and this hi-powered antibiotic. So it goes. Sorry if I have been kind of crabby lately. Getting this done had me going for a few days.
Boy, I did not like all those white lines,,,scars and it really is a good thing I stopped smoking 25 or so years ago. Harv
Ps How about you?
Oh my gosh... I can't believe that you are taking this so well. I'm not a big bourbon drinker, but I do like my occasional beer and my Bailey's and coffee, oh and my Glenfiddich and water. Lordy, I sound like a lush now!
Perhaps your breathing is within the "normal" range? Are you currently at altitude? Did you ever live at altitude? It's said that those of us above a certain "line" have larger lungs and heart (to process the lesser oxygen), so maybe that could be why?
Oh, the whys don't matter, only that it is showing normal. You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
Rosemarie Shiver - 30 Nov 2004 23:25 GMT Glad to know they're gonna put you on the TB med. One step at a time, Harv. First that med. then back to the Remicade or whatever you'll be getting at that time.
I'm hoping to get back on meds. this week. It won't be Bextra...mebbe I'll talk her into a whole lotta Celebrex with an occasional Voltaren. But getting back on the Neurontin is crucial. I have nerve pain radiating from my neck down my right arm now too and my sleep is rotten. I don't drink at all...so perhaps tonite I'll Tylenol PM myself.
Anyways, I'm glad you're not waiting and wondering.....that, for me is the worst part. <g> One day at a time.
Harv Hugs from Rosie
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> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you? Nann Bell - 01 Dec 2004 14:31 GMT > I'm hoping to get back on meds. this week. It won't be Bextra...mebbe > I'll talk her into a whole lotta Celebrex with an occasional Voltaren. But > getting back on the Neurontin is crucial. I have nerve pain radiating from > my neck down my right arm now too and my sleep is rotten. I don't drink at > all...so perhaps tonite I'll Tylenol PM myself. are you getting Rx coverage again, or are you having to do the dance to get meds? just so I can keep it in mind.......
And what is going on in your neck? I'd forgotten you have neck problems. My traction unit is doing me so much good. It's invaluable for my neck probs. (I like the traction table at PT even better, but can't justify asking for that referral right now as the situation has eased up a fair amount. sigh....)
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Squirrely - 02 Dec 2004 20:10 GMT Hey Rosie,
Thanks for thinking of me over on AMF. That was kind of you to mention me. But really you don't have to worry or be concerned. I will be fine, I always am, even when I'm not. ;-)
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Nanny - 16 Dec 2004 05:33 GMT What say again? ;-) Nanny
> Hey Rosie, > > Thanks for thinking of me over on AMF. That was kind of you to mention me. > But really you don't have to worry or be concerned. I will be fine, I > always > am, even when I'm not. ;-) Squirrely - 16 Dec 2004 20:01 GMT In other words, Nanny, I am always fine even when it is so tough going. The support I get from my groups keep me going. Infact that is all that is keeping me going lately. It is good to have supportive friends. There have been a few days I have just felt like giving up. But I go out and get cards in the mail or a phone call from a friend, and it is all better.
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> What say again? ;-) Nanny > > Hey Rosie, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > always > > am, even when I'm not. ;-) Nanny - 27 Dec 2004 03:25 GMT I know, Squirrely, I was just being ornery and teasing you. Actually, by giving to others like you do, more blessings come back to you. It's all in how we cope, and you're doing just fine! Nanny
> In other words, Nanny, I am always fine even when it is so tough going. > The [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> > always >> > am, even when I'm not. ;-) Gwen Love - 30 Nov 2004 23:54 GMT Harv, my breathing test in doctor's office tested normal also. I didn't see either the CT scan or the PET scan. I think I'll ask to see the CT scan next appointment. Gwen
> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you? Harvey R. Stone - 01 Dec 2004 04:13 GMT > Harv, my breathing test in doctor's office tested normal also. I didn't > see > either the CT scan or the PET scan. I think I'll ask to see the CT scan > next appointment. > Gwen Hi Gwen,,,, I have been thinking about this. I would ask first of my RD if there is anything a person can do for RA lung. If the answer is nothing,,,,,,, why worry about something we can do nothing about????
Harv
Lee Thompson-Herbert - 05 Dec 2004 09:06 GMT >> Harv, my breathing test in doctor's office tested normal also. I didn't >> see [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >if there is anything a person can do for RA lung. If the answer is >nothing,,,,,,, why worry about something we can do nothing about???? They mostly need to keep track of it now. The time to be worried is if it starts to progress again. Also, your lung function can suddenly and disasterously go downhill from viral infections, so they need to have a baseline to measure against. My pulmonologist pointed out that he has several patients who are now on Humira for RA who also have asthma. Their asthma has improved considerably since starting Humira, which suggests that there's a lot of autoimmune activity going on. There's another monoclonal antibody, Xolaire, that's approved for severe asthma now. So there's recognition that the inflammitory component of asthma may have an autoimmune cause. Also, MTX has been used for severe asthma for years.
Therefore, the drugs you're already on may be the reason that your lung function tests are coming out "normal." If you weren't on drugs that drove down the inflammitory compounds in your system, you might not fare quite so well. My pulmonologist's opinion on this is "if it's working, don't mess with it."
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Harvey R. Stone - 05 Dec 2004 15:18 GMT Thanks,,, makes sense to me. Harv
>>> Harv, my breathing test in doctor's office tested normal also. I didn't >>> see [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > quite so well. My pulmonologist's opinion on this is "if it's working, > don't mess with it." d'huit - 01 Dec 2004 00:12 GMT ((((((harv))))))) kick back and enjoy your bourbon and branch, guy. you deserve it. it's a good sign that your breathing in the small test was normal. i think it's also a good sign that tb isn't so prevalent that it showed up in the scan. means that much less for your lungs to have to deal with. 8 months will fly; it always does. time does for me, anyway. it's understandable that you would be a bit crabby, with all this on your mind. keeping you in my healing thoughts and prayers. kate
> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you? Cindy - 01 Dec 2004 01:11 GMT Harv, My prayers are with you...I hope that the TB meds do the trick...My daughter was exposed to TB when she worked as a jailer.. She tested positive and had to take the drugs.... So far she is doing fine... Praying that you do as well... Hugs Cindy
> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you? Janet R - 01 Dec 2004 01:32 GMT {{{{{Harv}}}}}} Dang, you have had a big day! Take some long, slow sips on that drink you made yourself. Eight months will fly by in no time. Sorry to hear the RA lung news, but we all deal. Its a speed bump on our road of health.
More hugs {{{{{{{{{Harv}}}}}}}}
Janet R
| Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I | did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] | | Ps How about you? Harvey R. Stone - 01 Dec 2004 04:24 GMT > {{{{{Harv}}}}}} > Dang, you have had a big day! Take some long, slow sips on that drink [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Janet R Thank you everyone. I am better now. Tomorrow is the big breath test for the record and I take my first a.s kicking anti-biotic pill. Hayyyy none of us are teenagers anymore and we deal with death everytime we get in the car or walk across the street. I am worrying about something that takes years to take a persons life and an airplane could land on my a.s tomorrow. Ya know what I mean??? We can deal with this but no more beer ,,,,,bourbon ,,,,even a margarita,,,, what the hell,,,, where's that airplane??? LOLOLOL just kidding.
Harv
Cooly - 01 Dec 2004 04:50 GMT Harv I'm sorry to hear that you have to take the antibiotics and I hope some good news is coming soon. I promise to do my part so the Budweiser stock doesn't drop while you can't partake. It was great talking to you when I was in Houston and I promise if the sun shines next time I'll try to make it to the south end of town next time. Cooly
> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you? Harvey R. Stone - 01 Dec 2004 22:37 GMT > Harv I'm sorry to hear that you have to take the antibiotics and I hope > some good news is coming soon. I promise to do my part so the Budweiser > stock doesn't drop while you can't partake. It was great talking to you > when I was in Houston and I promise if the sun shines next time I'll try > to make it to the south end of town next time. > Cooly I am just sorry that about the time you called the wife and I had to go to SugarLand and babysit for about a week. You bet,,, we will do the Space Center, Kemah, and Galveston. You have to know where to go ya know but I am tellen ya,,,, I have to be through with this TB stuff. Boy,,, its worse than Methx. Harv
Cooly - 02 Dec 2004 05:18 GMT >> Harv I'm sorry to hear that you have to take the antibiotics and I hope >> some good news is coming soon. I promise to do my part so the Budweiser [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > worse than Methx. > Harv Hang in there Harv and don't be afraid to call the doctor and complain, maybe there's something he can give you for the side effects. Cooly
DiWitt - 01 Dec 2004 04:53 GMT {{{{{{HARV}}}}} I've seen that white webbing in my Mom's xrays for years now and I know what you mean. Just looks out of place doesn't it? Hang in there Harv and know we are all here for you.
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> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you? DCHAM - 01 Dec 2004 05:14 GMT harv, sorry for the icky news. you can be as crabby as you like. hope the breath test goes ok.
diane
Harvey R. Stone - 01 Dec 2004 22:45 GMT > harv, sorry for the icky news. you can be as crabby as you like. hope the > breath test goes ok. > > diane Hahahaha OOoooh, I know better but thanks anyway. That was quite some deal and it took longer than I thought it would. It was the first time I ever had a blood test from an artery but the Tech was really good at what she does and you would think that it would be easy for me to Blow Hard,,,, and soft and with little in, outs. We have a base line now and I am sure I will be back every year to do it all over. Good Lord willen and the creek don't rise. The only thing that bothers me other than the medicine is that I am doing nothing for the RA lung,,,,, that I know of. Harv
Jo Firey - 01 Dec 2004 23:37 GMT >> harv, sorry for the icky news. you can be as crabby as you like. hope the >> breath test goes ok. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ever had a blood test from an artery but the Tech was really good at what > she does Sending prayers that its the only blood gas (artery) you ever need, or that you always get good techs. They can be pure unadulterated hell. Right Donna?
Jo
Adelle D. Stavis, Esq. - 01 Dec 2004 05:26 GMT Sorry all this is happening. Hope the breathing test goes OK.
As for the ABX - stock up on acidophilus; the kind with million or more active "units" (brain fog. Can't think of the right term). ABX can make you even more cranky. That's OK by us.
Hang in - we're all behind you, raising our glasses in tribute and drinking our share plus yours. ;-)
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Joan Carter - 01 Dec 2004 17:29 GMT >Sorry all this is happening. Hope the breathing test goes OK. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Hang in - we're all behind you, raising our glasses in tribute and drinking >our share plus yours. ;-) What she said, Harvey. Only I can't raise a glass, well, ginger ale maybe. MTX says no booze. I told my RD I *might* have a glass of wine at Christmas, but on the other hand, why bother? Even before meds I would go months without a glass of wine. Maybe I'll have one for New Year's or Valentine's Day instead. :-) --- Joan
firechief - 01 Dec 2004 18:59 GMT > What she said, Harvey. Only I can't raise a glass, well, ginger ale maybe. > MTX says no booze. I told my RD I *might* have a glass of wine at > Christmas, but on the other hand, why bother? Even before meds I > would go months without a glass of wine. Maybe I'll have one for New > Year's or Valentine's Day instead. :-) When I received a prescription with a "NO ALCOHOL" label, I asked the pharmacist if that was an outright ban.
He replied with a question, "How much do you drink?"
I told him 3 or 4 glasses of wine a month, if that much, when dining out.
He came back with, "Don't worry! That's no problem. We're trying to stop the 6-pak-a-night drinkers." (Who remembers New Jersey?)
So it pays to ask. Remember, most fruit begins fermenting even before it's picked, and we may be consuming more that way than with a a can of beer or a glass of wine. Non-pasturized juices are loaded with alcohol. Mr. Welch is credited with being the first to use the pasturizing process to remove it from his grape juice in the mid-1800's. (He didn't invent/discover pasturizing, he was the first to use it with juices.)
Jo Firey - 01 Dec 2004 19:22 GMT >> What she said, Harvey. Only I can't raise a glass, well, ginger ale >> maybe. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > the mid-1800's. (He didn't invent/discover pasturizing, he was > the first to use it with juices.) Now you have me craving a glass of "fizzy" cider. My parents didn't drink, but mom preferred the fresh apple cider after it had aged a little bit.
And all this lovely talk when I'm drinking only water and would have my fingers crossed if it were possible that the liver numbers come way down on the test tomorrow. Or its water thru New Years.
Jo
firechief - 02 Dec 2004 02:34 GMT > And all this lovely talk when I'm drinking only water and > would have my fingers crossed if it were possible that > the liver numbers come way down on the test tomorrow. We'll cross our fingers, too, and throw in a prayer for you.
> Or its water thru New Years. Well, as Olympia Beer (and Olympia Fire Department) say -- IT'S THE WATER. <g>
Joan Carter - 01 Dec 2004 22:35 GMT >I told him 3 or 4 glasses of wine a month, if that much, when dining out. > > He came back with, "Don't worry! That's no problem. We're trying to > stop the 6-pak-a-night drinkers." Ah, firechief, you are a fount of information. I guess I should raise a glass to you and Harvey. :-)
--- Joan
Jo Firey - 01 Dec 2004 23:39 GMT > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:59:59 -0800, "firechief" <firechief@jjfpd.gov> wrote > in > I guess I should raise a glass to > you and Harvey. :-) > > --- Joan
Whimper. I want my Christmas morning mimosa. It's the only way I can survive till noon.
I drink very little and very seldom but there is nothing like telling me no to make me want something.
Jo
Harvey R. Stone - 02 Dec 2004 09:17 GMT > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:59:59 -0800, "firechief" <firechief@jjfpd.gov> wrote > in [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > --- > Joan Yes,,, he is butttt for honesty's sake. What is important is what a persons bloodtests show, and the RD being fully informed with what is taking place.... it really is team work. I might of been able to go above 20 mg of Methx if I had completely stopped alcohol. Everything has trade offssss and effects something else and if a person has multi-diseases,,,, it gets even more complicated. A person really has to accept responsibility for their own actions, wants, like and dislikes and an RD can only do the best he/she can with some people who are very busy digging their own grave,,,, so to speak. Harv
Joan Carter - 02 Dec 2004 15:58 GMT >What is important is what a >persons bloodtests show, and the RD being fully informed with what is taking >place.... it really is team work. Harvey, I was kidding. --- Joan
Harvey R. Stone - 01 Dec 2004 22:50 GMT >>Sorry all this is happening. Hope the breathing test goes OK. >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > --- > Joan Please get interested in exactly what your enzyme level reading is compared against normal. If you are borderline high,,,, leave that stuff alone and take milk thistle too. It helped me when mine got high after a bout of flu and taking Arava. Harv
Joan Carter - 02 Dec 2004 01:42 GMT >Please get interested in exactly what your enzyme level reading is compared >against normal. If you are borderline high,,,, leave that stuff alone and >take milk thistle too. It helped me when mine got high after a bout of flu >and taking Arava. Everything is back to normal since I stopped the Arava. I asked the RD if that meant *I* was normal too. He just laughed.
--- Joan
firechief - 02 Dec 2004 02:30 GMT > What she said, Harvey. Only I can't raise a glass, well, > ginger ale maybe. Where do you find ginger ale?
The only thing remotely resembling it around here is "ginger flavored drink - artificially flavored."
Vernor's Ginger Ale, my one-time favorite, is no longer.
Janet R - 02 Dec 2004 03:28 GMT We still have that here in Houston....come on down and pick ya up a few 2 liters! hehehehe
Janet R
"firechief" <firechief@jjfpd.gov> wrote in message <snipped>
| Vernor's Ginger Ale, my one-time favorite, is no longer. firechief - 02 Dec 2004 07:48 GMT Joe wrote:
> Vernor's Ginger Ale, my one-time favorite, is no longer. And Janet R replied:
> We still have that here in Houston....come on down and > pick ya up a few 2 liters! hehehehe Are you sure?
Positive?
What does the label say? Ginger Ale? Or Ginger Drink?
Joan Carter - 02 Dec 2004 15:57 GMT >Are you sure? > > Positive? > > What does the label say? Ginger Ale? Or Ginger Drink? Oh, ye of little faith. :-)
--- Joan
Janet R - 02 Dec 2004 18:15 GMT I will check for you! I have even seen it in cans!
Janet R
| Joe wrote: | [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | | What does the label say? Ginger Ale? Or Ginger Drink? Joan Carter - 02 Dec 2004 03:47 GMT > Where do you find ginger ale? Just about anywhere. I like Canada Dry myself. Come to Canada and you can get many different brands.
--- Joan
firechief - 02 Dec 2004 07:54 GMT Joe wrote and asked:
>> Where do you find ginger ale? And Joan Carter answered his question with:
> Just about anywhere. I like Canada Dry myself. Around here the new labels are "flavored" or "flavor". Not at all like they were in the 50's, 60's and 70's.
> Come to Canada and you can get many different > brands. If nowhere else, I want to visit my mother's home in Heatherton, Antigonish, N.S. I still have so many pleasant memories of visits to my grandmother, but it has been 61 years (I was in the 2nd grade) since my last trip there, when we left the Boston area.
d'huit - 02 Dec 2004 16:40 GMT > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:30:55 -0800, "firechief" <firechief@jjfpd.gov> wrote > in [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > --- > Joan some of my favorite memories are of bringing in the new year, in the '50s and '60s, with canada dry extra dry ginger ale. that was my favorite. haven't seen it in decades. though i've tried regular canada dry and other ginger ales, nothing else is as good. do they even still make the extra dry, i wonder?
kate
Adelle D. Stavis, Esq. - 02 Dec 2004 14:04 GMT > > What she said, Harvey. Only I can't raise a glass, well, > > ginger ale maybe. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The only thing remotely resembling it around here is > "ginger flavored drink - artificially flavored." Chelmsford (my adopted hometown) is famous for the Chelmsford Ginger Ale factory that was in the center of town until about 30 years ago. A
A local soda maker bought the recipe and still makes real ginger ale made with real ginger. Thin flavor, very peppery and not over sweetened. Don't know if it's as good as the original stuff as I only moved here 14 years ago. Only available in 2 ltr bottles though.
What's it worth to you for me to ship from Massachusetts?
Adelle
firechief - 02 Dec 2004 18:36 GMT Adelle wrote:
> Chelmsford (my adopted hometown) is famous for the Chelmsford > Ginger Ale factory that was in the center of town until about 30 > years ago.
> What's it worth to you for me to ship from Massachusetts? I doubt if I'll ever return to my old stompping grounds in North Quincy and Boston. Probably rode through Chelmsford on U.S. 1 dozens of times enroute to Nova Scotia.
So maybe an exchange for some California wine? <g>
Adelle D. Stavis, Esq. - 02 Dec 2004 18:50 GMT > Adelle wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > So maybe an exchange for some California wine? <g> Couldn't possibly travel up through Chelmsford along Route 1. We aren't along the coast; We are inland. It's Northwest of Boston- bordered by Billerica, Lowell (think Jack Kerouac), Westford, Carlisle, maybe Tewksbury and Tyngsboro, too.
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firechief - 02 Dec 2004 23:03 GMT Adelle wrote:
> Couldn't possibly travel up through Chelmsford along Route 1. I looked at the digit cross-eyed. It's highway 3. <g>
> :-( Can't send wine through the mail. (sniff). I receive it through the mail all the time.
I know that because of wording of Amendment XXI, states are pretty free to adopt any/all regulations about alcohol (California bans alcohol in strip joints and the men in black robes ruled that is California's prerogative), but I bet a gift would be acceptable.
Janet R - 04 Dec 2004 15:38 GMT In Texas, you can only have a distributor mail wine to another distributor. So a private person would have to have it delivered to a liquor store.
One of my old bosses went to France and I tried in vain to find a way to have wine delivered to the office...it was a no go. Because Texas wouldn't accept and France has stiff rules on mailing it.
Now how is anyone supposed to become a wino on anything but Boonesfarm???
hehehe Janet R
| Adelle wrote: | [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] | and the men in black robes ruled that is California's | prerogative), but I bet a gift would be acceptable. Nann Bell - 03 Dec 2004 04:48 GMT , Lowell (think Jack Kerouac)
no, I think Lowell Folk Festival. Had great fun there the 2 summers we were in MA.
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> Adelle wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > So maybe an exchange for some California wine? <g>
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Nann Bell - 02 Dec 2004 16:18 GMT > Vernor's Ginger Ale, my one-time favorite, is no longer. just not in your area. We have it all over the place here. Vernoors diet ginger soda is a fav in this house. I've got bottles waiting for return, a bottle in the frig and more bottles waiting down in the basement......
Next time I drive to California I'll bring you a few cases. :)
(might be faster to ask a local store if they can get it. It's part of the 7-Up company now.)
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Nann Bell - 01 Dec 2004 05:57 GMT (((((((((Harv)))))))))) I guess it's best to take no chances witht he TB, especially with the meds you're on. I wonder if you've had the RA lung there for some time, since the days before your RA was as controlled as now. Is that possible? That would be good news and could mean that things won't progress. I'm crossing my fingers for that. Keep us posted, ya hear?
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Harvey R. Stone - 01 Dec 2004 23:25 GMT > (((((((((Harv)))))))))) I guess it's best to take no chances witht he TB, > especially with the meds you're on. I wonder if you've had the RA lung > there > for some time, since the days before your RA was as controlled as now. Is > that possible? That would be good news and could mean that things won't > progress. I'm crossing my fingers for that. Keep us posted, ya hear? I have none of the nodule scaring of TB in my lungs like RA it can get in other places too and my reaction to the test was too big to ignore. That is why my RD sent me to this Pulmo guy. I could of been exposed when I was a teenager-14 and setting pins in the bowling alley with hobos and the like.. My oh my,,, I was in a half dozen fights and watched 3 times that many. You would not believe it but they would fight and each man would be keeping two lanes going and they would not even know it up front. Fists only,,, no pins, no knives and no throwing those 16 lb bowling balls. If you did, you might win your fight but 3-4 would hold you while they beat the whooooly crap out of you. I never will forget the night after they put in the automatic machines,,,,one guy back there and myself and two other guys took care of the whole week. I would do my home work and do what needed to be done to keep things going. Welll, it was a hot night and the air came from up front. Sometimes I would open the back door to the tracks(6 of them) and get some air and catch a cig. This night when I opened that door,,, there was a man standing there not moving about 6'4 220. His eyes were cold black and skin was like the leather on a saddle that had been in the rain too much and a two week beard. I got that door closed and locked just as he hit the door. Not a half second to spare and I leaned on the door as he hit it again with a body that had not seen fat in a long, long time. I do not know how many dreams I have had that had the sound of wood breaking. To my good fortune, up walks Mr. Carnes who owned the place and I do not know where that gun came from but it was in my working area back there. He put a bullet through the door down in the lower corner and the devils helper went away. He turned to me and asked,,, you been having this door open??? Meee,,, no sir,,, I guess he was going to steal something. It had a lock from then on. :-) Harv
Cooly - 02 Dec 2004 05:21 GMT Thanks for that story Harv. Cooly
> I have none of the nodule scaring of TB in my lungs like RA it can get in > other places too and my reaction to the test was too big to ignore. That [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > from then on. :-) > Harv Harvey R. Stone - 02 Dec 2004 09:27 GMT > Thanks for that story Harv. > Cooly I just realized that I have told it before. I guess because it scared me soo bad and stayed with me, I guess. You people need to fuss at me if I get up to 3 times with the same story because they come from my life and were lived. Harv
Nann Bell - 02 Dec 2004 16:22 GMT >> Thanks for that story Harv. >> Cooly [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > were lived. > Harv it's not a problem Harv! I think all of us have done that at least once, probably more. And as we always have new folks, there's always someone who hasn't heard it. And so many of us have foggy brains, anyway, and forget things :) That story is part of who you are and we like reading it for that reason, if nothing else.
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Caroline Marold - 03 Dec 2004 23:11 GMT Hey Harv -- with the brain I am carrying around with me these days, you could tell the same story once a month and I might remember or I might not. A good story is worth repeating and then there are all those newbies.... Duckie
>>Thanks for that story Harv. >>Cooly [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > were lived. > Harv
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Sunny52 - 01 Dec 2004 12:47 GMT {{{{{{Harv}}}}}}
Living with this darn disease can make anyone crabby, but I have not noticed that you were crabby. You have always been supportive of anyone needing it. Just wanted you to know I am thinking of you and hoping this too will pass.
Bonnie
> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the > scaring in both lungs.... I go in the morning to have a real breath test to > form a base line for the future. The little one I took today in the > doctors office showed that I was normal. > He got very serious about the positive TB test. Tomorrow I start on > ISONIAZID for 8 months which can be very hard on a persons liver. Sooo, > its back to once a month on blood tests and I have to watch my type 2 blood > testing very closely and Noooo alcohol,, at all. > Doesn't that just make a person shake their head???? Not doing > anything about the RA lung but a big deal about the TB which can not be seen > on CT scan. So it goes and that starts tomorrow..... Today's for now,,,,, > its a little bourbon an distilled water going down smooth. > I just bought some too.. Aaah well,, it gets better with age,,, 8 months of > age and this hi-powered antibiotic. So it goes. Sorry if I have been > kind of crabby lately. Getting this done had me going for a few days. > Boy, I did not like all those white lines,,,scars and it really is a good > thing I stopped smoking 25 or so years ago. > Harv > > Ps How about you? > >
Harvey R. Stone - 01 Dec 2004 23:27 GMT Just wanted you to know I am thinking of you and hoping this
> too will pass. > > Bonnie Thank you very much... Yes, it will be 8 months of one pill a day and my oh my, I hope that is all. Harv
Kelly Cobb - 01 Dec 2004 15:30 GMT I'm really glad you stopped smoking 25 years ago...it could be so much worse. You can do this just like you've done all the other treatments over the years, I have no doubt.
Hang in there, Harv.
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> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you? DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 01 Dec 2004 16:04 GMT {{{{{{{{{Harv}}}}}}}}
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> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you? Caroline Marold - 01 Dec 2004 16:14 GMT Wow Harv. That is scary. Get yourself some Milk Thistle if you are not already using it. Want that liver to still be able to enjoy the bourbon when you reach the other side of the 8 months. Hope the new med doesn't mess with your diabetes too much. Duckie
> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you?
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Harvey R. Stone - 01 Dec 2004 23:33 GMT > Wow Harv. That is scary. Get yourself some Milk Thistle if you are not > already using it. Want that liver to still be able to enjoy the bourbon > when you reach the other side of the 8 months. > Hope the new med doesn't mess with your diabetes too much. > Duckie I have been thinking about getting some,,, I have taken it before and yes, it does mess with diabetes,,,,I can not skip any days of no testing and I can not let that get out of hand,,, talken nerve damage and what not from that. I heard a plane flying low heading for Hobby airport and thought,,,,, maybe thats the one that is going to squash me flat. LOL Harv
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Alex Barna - 01 Dec 2004 20:07 GMT Hi Harv,
> Sorry if I have been > kind of crabby lately. Getting this done had me going for a few days. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ps How about you? Those white lines & scars could be from before you stopped smoking cigarettes & may not mean anything. They could also be from industrial dust you inhaled over the decades. At our age what difference does it make?
I stopped drinking 28 years ago & my favorite brewery went broke so you can stop for a few months. <G>
Like Ducky said take some milk thistle & relax. Plain yogurt with active enzymes will help keep your gut functioning with all the anti B's. GramPaHugs, Alex,
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Harvey R. Stone - 01 Dec 2004 23:43 GMT > Hi Harv, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > GramPaHugs, > Alex, Ya know Alex, I worked in two breweries and I have seen guys that drank what is called Wert and that is probably mis-spelled,,, right out of the vats before the final filtering. I never did but those guys could not get 10 feet away from a toilet buttt they say,,,, the taste, the taste. Myself, I like to sneak behind the keg line when it was running and get a big cup of beer from the test squiggle the lab uses to test the beer. 34 degrees and the best beer there is. Really, I do not drink much beer and now none at all for awhile but I drink low carb Mich. which is a quality beer with not much alcohol. By the way all lite beer is 3.2% or less and regular beer is about 5.0.... Harv
Squirrely - 01 Dec 2004 20:08 GMT Harv,
I am glad you are going to get treatment. I hope it helps you out alot. I feel for you and my heart goes out to you. I know this has been heck what you have been going thru. I hope things start going better for you and your wife. I hope you both get a great outcome of all you are going thru.
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> Well, I got a chance to see my CT scan and what RA lung looks like... I > did not like it a bit but,,,, that makes no difference. I could see the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ps How about you? Harvey R. Stone - 01 Dec 2004 23:47 GMT > Harv, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Squirrely Jo Thank you JO,,,,, I got my priorities set right today when I help my new grandson and he knew who I was and wanted to play. When you get down on a babies level all the rest does not mean much. Harv
Squirrely - 02 Dec 2004 20:00 GMT Your welcome Harv,
Yes children teach us alot don't they. They slow us down too. ;-)
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> Thank you JO,,,,, I got my priorities set right today when I help my new > grandson and he knew who I was and wanted to play. When you get down on a > babies level all the rest does not mean much. > Harv Harvey R. Stone - 02 Dec 2004 21:42 GMT > Your welcome Harv, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Squirrely Jo and that can be a good thing. Look at the thread about the pressure of Christmas. Harv
cynthia - 05 Dec 2004 21:41 GMT Tomorrow I start on
> ISONIAZID for 8 months which can be very hard on a persons liver. Sooo, > its back to once a month on blood tests and I have to watch my type 2 blood > testing very closely and Noooo alcohol,, at all. Harv, I remember that vitamin B6 was part of the protocol for isoniazid treatment back a few years ago to counteract the liver effects. You might check that one out with your doctor +/- the Type 2.
Regards, Cynthia
Harvey R. Stone - 05 Dec 2004 22:16 GMT > Harv, I remember that vitamin B6 was part of the protocol for > isoniazid treatment back a few years ago to counteract the liver [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Regards, > Cynthia Thank you Cynthia. I have thrown my B6 away because it was too old and I intend to get some the next time I go to the store. I hope Becky saw this too. Harv
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