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firechief - 30 Nov 2004 03:33 GMT
           Routers, firewalls only a start to PC protection

           By John J. Fried
           THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER
           November 29, 2004

           Please elaborate on the protections that routers and firewalls
           offer and don't.

           A router, by itself, offers virtually no protection. While most
           routers have built-in firewalls, those only keep out hackers
           actively looking for PCs online.

           Only a software-based firewall installed on the hard drive will
           protect against programs, such as Trojan horses, that can use
your
           PC to distribute spam or attack government or corporate Web
sites.
           Firewalls, however, don't protect against viruses or worms.

           Let's turn the question around a bit: What protection do I need
on
           my PC?

           Software firewall and anti-virus programs. Leading providers of
           these programs, and suites that incorporate both and more, are
           Trend Micro, McAfee, Symantec and Zone Labs.

           Update these programs frequently so they can guard against new
           threats or variations on old ones.

           An anti-spyware program. It will scan the PC for existing
           spyware/adware that invades your privacy, hijacks you to
           unscrupulous Web sites or installs dialers that make hundreds of
           calls to 1-900 telephone numbers or to overseas destinations.

           Opt for a product that keeps spyware from installing, rather
than
           one that finds it after the fact.
           Note: Some experts recommend using two anti-spyware programs.

           Use your head. The best tool against Internet evils is between
           your shoulders.

           Avoid porn sites. Avoid peer-to-peer video-and music-exchange
           networks. Don't download free programs, except from reliable
sites.

           Don't respond to spam, even to tell the spammers off.

           Ignore e-mail that purports to report a problem with one
           of youy bank or credit-card accounts. Don't even open it.

           I recently installed Windows XP. However, my Desktop icons
           have disappeared. How can I get them back?

           To get program icons back, right-click on your Desktop. In the
           pop-up menu, choose "Arrange by." Click on Show Desktop Icons
           to enable the option.

           Windows-specific icons are displayed by right-clicking on the
           Desktop, then choosing Properties, Desktop, Customize Desktop
           and General, and then choosing which icons you want displayed.

           If you don't have luck with these approaches, search, one at
           a time, for the various executable program files: winword.exe,
           for example.

           When the executable turns up, right-click on it and choose to
           create a shortcut on the Desktop for it.

           If the icons still refuse to show, reinstall XP.

           If you can, however, do so by opting for a clean reinstall,
           meaning one that reformats the hard drive and then installs XP.

           Be sure to back up your data, Favorites, updated drivers and
           address book first, and ensure that you have your program CDs.
Carole - 30 Nov 2004 07:49 GMT
>             Routers, firewalls only a start to PC protection
>
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>             Be sure to back up your data, Favorites, updated drivers and
>             address book first, and ensure that you have your program CDs.

Better yet . . .  buy a Mac :-)
daydok - 30 Nov 2004 08:02 GMT
ahhh... finally a topic i can help out with! i'm a systems engineer by
trade, with psoriatric arthritis on the side :-)

anyway, i just wanted to add my 2 cents. download either (or both) of
these 2 free spyware utilities, and run them at least once a week:

http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button

http://www.download.com/Spybot-Search-Destroy/3000-8022-10122137.html?part=dl-sp
ybot&subj=dl&tag=but


if you have any tech questions, please do not hesitate to ask, and i
will do my best to help you out!

cheers,

edgar
Nell - 30 Nov 2004 10:05 GMT
> ahhh... finally a topic i can help out with! i'm a systems engineer by
> trade, with psoriatric arthritis on the side :-)
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>
> edgar

I noticed, looking at reader reviews of AdAware, that some people have
it mixed up with an anti-virus. On the the AVG forum, I noticed people
making the same mistake when they were wondering about firewalls
(thinking that they were anti-virus programs).

Nell
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 30 Nov 2004 15:10 GMT
WooooooHooooooo!  a sys guy in the group!  Whoooopeeee!  Now, Edgar, don't
you DARE go back into the bushes.  Tell us more about yourself and do you
like chocolate?

DeeTee
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> ahhh... finally a topic i can help out with! i'm a systems engineer by
> trade, with psoriatric arthritis on the side :-)
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>
> edgar
daydok - 30 Nov 2004 17:57 GMT
hi nell,

yes you are right - good point. spyware is totally different than
firewall software. simply put, spyware tracks any malicious cookies or
bits that get left behind when you peruse websites. firewalls (whether
hardware or software), actively monitors intrusion to your internet or
LAN connection.

i personally run both, one after the other. as far as a quick and
painless firewall fix, if you have XP, make sure SP2 is on there (a
free download from microsoft). and regardless of whatever Windows OS
you have, always keep updated by using the 'tools -> windows update'
on your internet explorer menu.

hi dee,

do i like chocolate? do i like chocolate? yes, yes and yes! i do have
type2 diabetes though, (on top of my PA), so i usually do the sugar
free stuff. but once in a while, on special occassions, i go splurge
on the good stuff :-)

edgar
Nell - 30 Nov 2004 18:41 GMT
> hi nell,
>
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>
> edgar

I have AVG Antivirus( www.grisoft.com ), Omniquad Firewall, AdAware,
SpywareGuard, SpyBlaster, and Spybot Search and Destroy (S&D).

www.figis.com has some great sugar-free goodies. Truffles, fudge, fruit
slices, etc. And they have the good stuff, too. :-)

Nell
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 30 Nov 2004 21:57 GMT
Ah - I have several friends with diabetes.  It runs in my family also.  Hide
your chocolate.  This group is comprised of chocoholics who are willing to
steal it.  I prefer hard candies and your chocolate is safe around me.

DeeTee
________________________________
DeeTee and Bob Taggart
http://www.marykay.com/dtaggart3
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/
________________________________
> hi nell,
>
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>
> edgar
Mike-UK - 01 Dec 2004 12:31 GMT
> hi nell,
>
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> you have, always keep updated by using the 'tools -> windows update'
> on your internet explorer menu.

Gotta chip in here guy...

Simply installing a spyware app and constantly clicking on
the winupdate thingie is not an effective method of
protecting a computer from the nasties. AND a firewall
should do more than just monitor intrusions, it should
CONTROL all traffic to and from your computer.

An image that might help to keep in mind is to think of a
firewall as a a kind of bouncer/doorman/traffic-cop that
stands between your poota and everything else in
internet-land. The better this doorman is at figuring out
what is and what is not acceptable, the safer the inside of
your poota is.

HOWEVER! If your doorman lets the wrong sort in, then if you
are running ANY version of Windows, you are in deep **** as
there is NO intrinsic security in the M$ systems.

Its a bit like having a chicken-coop. Once the fox is in,
he's got a free run and can make his own escape as and when
he likes. There are NO "permissions" or restricted user
accounts to keep the little bugger out of the grain-store or
other places either, to expand the metaphor a little. Once
in, he's IN.

What WOULD be a BLOODY GOOD IDEA, would be to have a system
where each layer of activity is protected, where things can
only be done by explicitly pre-given permission. This would
require a system in which each and every file, data files,
system files, config files, all had a range of permissions
that could be pre-set by a seriously protected
administration procedure that was UNAVAILABLE to normal
users and processes. You'd need to significantly redesign an
M$ OS as the file system it uses to store your stuff on
(the way is lays out stuff on your HDD) does not have the
capacity to include such a secured system of storage.

So, as M$ stuff is still the same old toy "My 1st pony"
stuff that was NEVER designed (if you can call Windows
"designed" that is) to be put on a network (that came later,
when Billy did an about turn having seen how much money
could be made with this new "innurneh"), the next logical
question is surely "How do I get hold of an operating system
that DOES have intrinsic security built into it from the
ground up?"

Well, you'll be pleased to know that just about EVERY
operating system EXCEPT Windows (including the Mac OS-X,
FreeBSD based) deploys some kind of permissions-based file
system and can be "locked down" pretty easily as a result.
Another benefit of this is that a machine can be quite
effectively secured from even your
cat/wife/husband/parents/children etc. who MAY get the idae
to use a PC you decided was off-limits and so on. Ain't
gonna happen unless they have an account/password. (Please
don't confuse this with the tacked-on and laughably
bypassable Win-password screen ;)

ALL these security aspects are TAKEN FOR GRANTED by users of
other operating systems to M$ simply because with M$ you get
far less for your money than the freely available stuff you
can download and install right now, for free. ;)

"Its pointless locking the front door when the back of the
house is missing"

Now which "systems engineer" recommended you use Windows
then? ;\

www.FreeBSD.org
www.Slackware.com
www.VectorLinux.com

and many many more...

Enjoy ;)

P.S. Guess which OS Windows Updates runs on? And why? ;\

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