diane, I should get one of the devices that makes this process easy
cause what I do is a bit disgusting but works once you get used to it. I
take warm salt water to the back of my throat and quickly bend over,
dropping my head, making sure to keep the neck relaxed. The water finds
its own way into the sinus cavity and then back in an upright position I
just gently blow it thru and out my nose. I generally repeat that about
three times. Has always done wonders for me. I have been told that using
one of the devices designed for this procedure is more effective. Sinus
problems are a curse. Mine are genetic and often make me crazy.
johnie
> can someone explain how to do this? i'm fed up with my sinuses!
>
> diane
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 26 Nov 2004 15:56 GMT
Johnie and Diane<
I use a nasal spray of saline (it's available in our grocery stores
around here, just can't think of what it's called). Just tip my head
back and squeeze the bottle (so it "floods" rather than sprays). Seems
to work for me, and I've got "bad" sinuses. Still pretty gross though
(ewwww). Which is why I do this in the shower, since the "wash out" is
way more liquid than any tissue seems able to hold.
It snowed here, not much but enough that I am not a happy camper. Too
cold and the RA is saying more "storm" to follow. Oh joys...
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> can someone explain how to do this? i'm fed up with my sinuses!
>
> diane
here are various sites about doing it - it's hard to find ones that don't
push a particular product! People use ear syringes, 60cc syringes or
products specially designed for this purpose.
http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/allergiesasthma/a/SinusIrrigation.htm
http://allergies.about.com/cs/treatment/a/aa040802a.htm
http://www.bytheplanet.com/Products/Yoga/Neti/RhinoHorn/userguide.htm
This page has links to other pages (on the same site) that give more
information on the whole concept
http://www.jalanetipot.com/index.html
this is the product I use, and like, for sinus irrigation. My brother used
the ear syringe for some time and was happy with it, until I introduced him
to the rhino horn <beg>.
http://www.bytheplanet.com/Products/Yoga/Neti/Catalog/netipotcatalog.htm

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RoseB - 27 Nov 2004 02:03 GMT
The business of tilting the head was not explained to me, not was the
need for using any special salt or water. So what I have done is use
regular of each, and an ear irrigation thingy which is a rubber device
with a bulb that you squeeze. I must look and see of i can find a
netti pot. That looks like a good system.
I was told to do it twice a day. So far I am breathing more easily but
still have the headaches. My voice is still really hoarse- it has been
off and on since school restarted. Don't know if that is part of this
sinus syndrome.
Rose @}>->--
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> can someone explain how to do this? i'm fed up with my sinuses!
>
> diane
there are expensive sinus irrigation units you can purchase. however, it is
cheaper and just as effective to get a netti pot from your local health food
store. there are many different styles of netti pot. make sure to take it
out of the box before you buy it, so that you know it is one that will be
comfortable to use in your hand. sometimes, they come with instructions
inside the box; and sometimes, the instructions are on the shelf itself.
do not use warm water directly from your tap, as it is not pure enough. buy
a 50 cent jug of distilled water. do not use sea salt, contrary to some
reccommendations, as it is not as pure as it used to be. i use non-iodized
salt or sometimes, kosher salt. depending upon the size of your netti pot,
you will need roughly 1/2 to one whole teaspoon.
depending upon which netti pot you've purchased, you will need roughly a cup
of distilled water, lukewarm. i nuke it for about 30 seconds, but that also
will depend upon how powerful your microwave is. do let the molecules
settle out before using it and do test the temperature for your own
comfort's sake. too cold and it hurts a little; too hot, and of course it
will burn. add the salt to the warmed water and dissolve it. then you are
ready to use it.
this takes a little practice, but you will get the hang of it with
experimentation, by tipping your head and leaning until you get the right
position. keep lots of kleenex handy.
basically, you will lean over a basin or sink (or do this in the shower,
though i don't like to). you turn your head sideways (i can't do that very
well, so i turn my body). the spout end of the netti pot is to fit snugly
against your highest nostril and the salted water will pour into it. it
will then circulate into your sinus cavities and freely flow out of your
lower nostril, if you are doing it correctly. alternate sides, by then
leaning and tipping your head the other way. half a pot is poured into each
nostril.
when done, i like to lean forward (as though bending to pick something off
the floor), away from the sink or shower walls so you don't bump your head,
with kleenex against my nose (more water will run out), then stand up and
gently blow.
it won't clean your sinuses totally out on the first try, but after doing it
several times the first day, you will be amazed at the amount of gunk that
is disspelled. once your sinuses are cleaned out, saline squeeze bottles
will mostly keep them that way (i don't like to swallow the saline solution,
from squeeze bottles, or the gunk). or just use the netti pot whenever you
need to.
hope that helps.
kate
ShenMei9 - 26 Nov 2004 16:26 GMT
Geat directions from Kate-I agree with everything she wrote. I would add that
when I am starting to get a little sniffle, I add a tiny pinch of baking soda
and two drops (NOT DROPPERS) of hydrogen peroxide. If yo can't find a nettie
pot, let me know. I keep them at the office and can order you one and have it
drop shipped to your house.
I also got turned onto a product called Xlear this summer when I got an enbrel
cold and couldn't quite kick the sinus part. I usually don't like sprays as
they are too harsh and drying but this stuff works and doesn't dry at all. I
have a bottle on my desk and at the office and in my car.
Hint on sprays: Got to keep that little tip that goes into your nose clean. I
wipe mine down with an alcohol wipe after every use.
Diane, not only will you find that a neti pot will work, but your breathing
will get better and you just won't get the colds other people get. My kids
both use neti pots and megan has had two colds in her life and Alan has had
one. Any patient I have who is on it with sinus irrigation, even those HIV
patients who are immune compromised, just don't get colds and sinus infections.
m
thanks for all this info! it sounds unpleasant, but you've convinced me to try
it.
diane
Janet R - 27 Nov 2004 01:09 GMT
My sister is the biggest wimp I know...and she uses a Neti (sp) pot
and swears by it. If she can do it...I know you can!!!
Janet R
| thanks for all this info! it sounds unpleasant, but you've convinced me to try
| it.
|
| diane
d'huit - 27 Nov 2004 01:36 GMT
> thanks for all this info! it sounds unpleasant, but you've convinced me to
> try
> it.
>
> diane
it is not really unpleasant, diane. it's just different, something you're
not accustomed to yet, because it doesn't have its origins in our culture.
it just takes a little practice, like most things do. it is actually
something you can be very comfortable doing and knowing how to do,
especially once you know the relief it will give you. you don't really have
to psyche yourself up for it. i'd put it on the same level of difficulty
and unpleasantness with many personal grooming tasks. it just sounds gross
when being explained, like being explained how to change a newborn's diaper
sounds.<smile> no biggiewow, really.
kate
> can someone explain how to do this? i'm fed up with my sinuses!
>
> diane
I highly recommend using a waterpik with the Dr. Grossan attachment,
read about it here:
http://www.ent-consult.com/faq.html#irrigation
order the tips here, and use with a regular waterpik:
http://www.ent-consult.com/sinusrelief/orderform.html
DCHAM - 01 Dec 2004 22:27 GMT
Nann Bell - 02 Dec 2004 02:49 GMT
>> can someone explain how to do this? i'm fed up with my sinuses!
>>
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> order the tips here, and use with a regular waterpik:
> http://www.ent-consult.com/sinusrelief/orderform.html
aside from the price, many people find the pulsing action of Dr. Grossan's
attachment to be quite uncomfortable. I wouldn't recommend shelling out the
bucks without trying one first.

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Val in Boise - 02 Dec 2004 22:42 GMT
I had sinus problems for years. I found a nasal irrigator in a health book
and bought it. I used it for about three days and I have not had sinus
problems since. It wasn't that bad. A Waterpik could surely be used. I
highly recommend them.
Val in Boise
| > can someone explain how to do this? i'm fed up with my sinuses!
| >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
| order the tips here, and use with a regular waterpik:
| http://www.ent-consult.com/sinusrelief/orderform.html