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doe - 24 Nov 2004 07:26 GMT
By impounding iron, FHC foils cell suicide, fuels inflammation
12 Nov 2004

A research team based at the University of Chicago may have found a way to
manipulate cell suicide, also known as programmed cell death, a normal process
that regulates cell number but that goes awry in chronic inflammatory
disorders, cancer and other diseases.

In the 12 Nov. 2004 issue of the journal Cell, the scientists show that a key
step in the process of preventing cell suicide is the induction of ferritin
heavy chain (FHC), a protein that collects and hoards iron. By sequestering
iron -- which cells with suicidal tendencies need to make the harmful
substances that induce death -- FHC prevents cellular suicide.

http://tinyurl.com/4fj4c

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Mike-UK - 24 Nov 2004 16:39 GMT
> [SNIPPED]

Sumtn'...

You can run Tommy, but you can't hide. ;)

3.. 2.. 1..

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doe - 25 Nov 2004 10:54 GMT
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Joan Carter - 25 Nov 2004 20:25 GMT
>>Subject: I .. AM .. a PUSSSY / mikeswebstuff@blueyonder.co.uk.
>
>I .. AM .. a PUSSSY / mikeswebstuff@blueyonder.co.uk.

Bored, Tom Turd? Oh, yes, ever since you found out too much Vitamin E is bad.
Another of your "theories" shot down. How about playing tiddlywinks?

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Mike-UK - 25 Nov 2004 22:24 GMT
> >>Subject: I .. AM .. a PUSSSY / mikeswebstuff@blueyonder.co.uk.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> ---
> Joan

Hi Joan! Hows things?  I think Tommy has developed a little
crush on me lately. Based on how excited he seems to get
when I question his obsession with "PUSSSY", and that he has
never become THAT excited when women challenge him, I
figured that as he knows I'm Bi, he might just be getting a
little frustrated being so far away from lil' ol' moi.

D'you think I've pulled here? ;)

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Joan Carter - 25 Nov 2004 22:53 GMT
>Hi Joan! Hows things?  I think Tommy has developed a little
>crush on me lately. Based on how excited he seems to get
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>D'you think I've pulled here? ;)

Oh definitely! Jim and I are having a good laugh at your answer. :-)

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Mike-UK - 26 Nov 2004 12:58 GMT
> >Hi Joan! Hows things?  I think Tommy has developed a little
> >crush on me lately. Based on how excited he seems to get
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Oh definitely! Jim and I are having a good laugh at your answer. :-)

Makes me wonder if we shouldn't get some kind of Tommy
fan-club together. We could adopt him as the most
predictable troll on Usenet and have competitions to see who
can get him to splutter the longest of a single thread etc.
Or maybe I'll get that old can of paint out and that bit of
wood I've been saving, paint a coat on it, and sit and watch
it dry. Could be more rewarding... ;\

Hmmm... Thats a thought... Does Tommy need and undercoat to
prevent all that rust he's so bothered about? ;)

Hmmm... And another thought... Maybe he's really got
arthritis but he hasn't figured out that all those creaks
don't really mean he's a robot? 80

    :)

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Harvey R. Stone - 26 Nov 2004 13:46 GMT
> Hmmm... Thats a thought... Does Tommy need and undercoat to
> prevent all that rust he's so bothered about? ;)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> :)

His problem is not arthritis.   If yours is lets talk about that.   Trading
slaps with a sick mind is not sport in my world and that may be signs of a
mind that cries out for its own need for help.    Whatever..... please let
Tommy go in this newsgroup.   We have learned to tolerate and ignore and
even Block his posts.   Do you want to join him?

Harv
Mike-UK - 29 Nov 2004 23:37 GMT
> > Hmmm... Thats a thought... Does Tommy need and undercoat to
> > prevent all that rust he's so bothered about? ;)
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Harv

Hmmm... I get the idea behind your comments here, but would
suggest you read them back to yourself and see how they come
across, particularly the last bit.

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Jo Firey - 30 Nov 2004 01:45 GMT
> Hmmm... I get the idea behind your comments here, but would
> suggest you read them back to yourself and see how they come
> across, particularly the last bit.

Mike, I realize that some consider sparing with trolls a sport.  However
this is a support group and many of us find it upsetting to watch and have
said so.  Our easiest defense is to block the source.  When an otherwise
valued member of the group wants to play anyway, it is of course not
something we can prevent.  We have to either put up with it or block them
both.  I'm quite sure you understand.

Jo
Mike-UK - 01 Dec 2004 11:45 GMT
> > Hmmm... I get the idea behind your comments here, but would
> > suggest you read them back to yourself and see how they come
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Jo

Ok, I get what you're saying. As I'm not too sure how others
block stuff, I'm a tad confused about how a post from
I-Ron.bot gets filtered but a follow-up doesn't.

Mind you, its been a long time since I used Windows and I
have no idea how any M$-based filtering methods might
actually work/not work. ;\

As you have highlighted something I am not familiar with,
and I appear to have leaked into other people's choice
mechanisms with regard to this particular "entertainment",
I'll default to taking your advice here.

If anyone has any hints on how to slide behind other
people's filters, say including a keywork in a subject line
etc. to make SURE one's posts/FUs are filtered out, then I'd
welcome the info. Always worth knowing how to avoid being
where ya shouldn't huh? ;)

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firechief - 01 Dec 2004 19:15 GMT
> If anyone has any hints on how to slide behind other
> people's filters, say including a keywork in a subject line
> etc. to make SURE one's posts/FUs are filtered out, then I'd
> welcome the info. Always worth knowing how to avoid being
> where ya shouldn't huh? ;)

For Outlook Express, select:

TOOLS
 > Message Rules
   > News
      > From line (or)
      > Subject line (or)
      > From specific account
            > Delete it (or)
            > Mark it as read

You can filter a name using the "From line",
or filter a thread using a word or two in the
"Subject line", or filter an IP account.
Mike-UK - 02 Dec 2004 00:00 GMT
> > If anyone has any hints on how to slide behind other
> > people's filters, say including a keywork in a subject line
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>  or filter a thread using a word or two in the
>  "Subject line", or filter an IP account.

Cheers.

Does this mean that as long as a subject line is not
changed, the whole (potential) thread gets filtered?

Seems to be. So the next question is, is there a keyword
that can be included in a subject line on this NG that would
ensure that a post was filtered by those who wish to
filter?

A suggestion might be, considering Tommy's habits, to
include the "I .. am .. a" sequence as this appears to have
served him well for years.

As you may have guessed, I don't use OE or even Windows. :)

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firechief - 02 Dec 2004 02:47 GMT
> A suggestion might be, considering Tommy's habits, to
> include the "I .. am .. a" sequence as this appears to have
> served him well for years.

"Jesus was a vegetarian" would filter Tommy.  But if you
wanted to filter a user rather than a thread, in Outlook
Express select:

   MESSAGE
       >  Block Sender

> As you may have guessed, I don't use OE or even Windows. :)

That's why I was surprised when you asked a MicroShaft question.
Mike-UK - 03 Dec 2004 00:10 GMT
> > A suggestion might be, considering Tommy's habits, to
> > include the "I .. am .. a" sequence as this appears to have
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>  That's why I was surprised when you asked a MicroShaft question.

I have no problem filtering if/when I need/want to. What
I was looking for was a method of ensuring that IF (and
given the advice I've been offerd its not that likely) I
needed to follow up a post that may be something others may
have blocked, I have a clue how to avoid my followup
leaking past people's filters. THIS is what I needed the
advice on. :\

Actually, accepting that Tom's "vegetarian" stuff is likely
to be a filter key, I'll simply not snip it. the added
benefit of this would be to re-enforce any idea I may have
to offer regarding Tom's sanity. ;)

I'll try to avoid this of course. 8\

Thanks anyway. :)

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Harvey R. Stone - 03 Dec 2004 05:08 GMT
I want you to count how many times you used the word  "I"  in your post.
Thats what its all about isn't Mike.
    Lets be honest here.  Nobody in this newsgroup gives a dam about Tom or
what he says and he has earned it.
Harv

>> > A suggestion might be, considering Tommy's habits, to
>> > include the "I .. am .. a" sequence as this appears to have
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Thanks anyway. :)
Mike-UK - 04 Dec 2004 12:35 GMT
> I want you to count how many times you used the word  "I"  in your post.
> Thats what its all about isn't Mike.

Well MeeOW! Get BACK girlfriend! ;\

>      Lets be honest here.  Nobody in this newsgroup gives a dam about Tom or
> what he says and he has earned it.
> Harv

Well, du-UH! :)

Climb down Harv, you're on the wrong case. I'm  not your
enemy, not am I responsible for your troubles. ASA has an
established alternative way of dealing with Tom and others
like him, that much has been communicated to me already.
While respecting that on this NG, there is a limit to just
how much what I have to say can be "guided" by others
wishes. Sometimes one just has to accept that there might
just be another viewpoint, as I have done, and maybe you
should reconsider that here.

Respect Harv. And peace? :)

P.S. I KNOW how damn irritating I can be without even
trying, but then again, thats not my problem, as MY
irritation at the deluge of posts I could get wound up
about IS. Offence is like drink, only effective when taken.

> >> > A suggestion might be, considering Tommy's habits, to
> >> > include the "I .. am .. a" sequence as this appears to have
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Nann Bell - 26 Nov 2004 16:07 GMT
> Hi Joan! Hows things?  I think Tommy has developed a little
> crush on me lately. Based on how excited he seems to get
> when I question his obsession with "PUSSSY", and that he has
> never become THAT excited when women challenge him, I
> figured that as he knows I'm Bi, he might just be getting a
> little frustrated being so far away from lil' ol' moi.

LOL!  If you're going to be having so much >fun< with him, I may just have to
un-killfilter the bozo!

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Mike-UK - 29 Nov 2004 23:44 GMT
> > Hi Joan! Hows things?  I think Tommy has developed a little
> > crush on me lately. Based on how excited he seems to get
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> LOL!  If you're going to be having so much >fun< with him, I may just have to
> un-killfilter the bozo!

www.mikeswebsite.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/WebStuff/amfFAQ.html#trolls

...should provide a few giggles.

    "Look lady .. if you don't know what you are
     talking about 'medically' .. then stay out
     of it .. The man has had three
     miscarriages/spontaneous abortions."

...is one of my I-Ron.bot favz.

I wouldn't bother unfiltering him though, nothing new or
original to read, apart from his attempts to avoid admitting
his apparent facination with li'l 'ol moi that is. ;)

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firechief - 26 Nov 2004 18:55 GMT
> Bored, Tom Turd?   How about playing tiddlywinks?

He doesn't have any friends to play with.

He can only play with himself (if you know what I mean).
doe - 25 Nov 2004 10:54 GMT
By impounding iron, FHC foils cell suicide, fuels inflammation
12 Nov 2004

A research team based at the University of Chicago may have found a way to
manipulate cell suicide, also known as programmed cell death, a normal process
that regulates cell number but that goes awry in chronic inflammatory
disorders, cancer and other diseases.

In the 12 Nov. 2004 issue of the journal Cell, the scientists show that a key
step in the process of preventing cell suicide is the induction of ferritin
heavy chain (FHC), a protein that collects and hoards iron. By sequestering
iron -- which cells with suicidal tendencies need to make the harmful
substances that induce death -- FHC prevents cellular suicide.

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doe - 25 Nov 2004 10:55 GMT
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I .. AM .. a PUSSSY / mikeswebstuff@blueyonder.co.uk

I .. AM .. a PUSSSY / mikeswebstuff@blueyonder.co.uk

I .. AM .. a PUSSSY / mikeswebstuff@blueyonder.co.uk

I .. AM .. a PUSSSY / mikeswebstuff@blueyonder.co.uk

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Mike-UK - 25 Nov 2004 22:20 GMT
>  I .. AM .. a PUSSSY / mikeswebstuff@blueyonder.co.uk
>
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Steady on Tom! You'll make yourself sore!

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>Subject: I .. AM .. a PUSSSY / mikeswebstuff@blueyonder.co.uk.

I .. AM .. a PUSSSY / mikeswebstuff@blueyonder.co.uk.

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