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Di - 23 Oct 2004 23:06 GMT
Last week, our office building was condemned because of black mold.  
It's a small building, a retrofitted garage actually, right next to our
Administrative Offices building, otherwise known as Headquarters.  So,
we affectionately call our little building "Hindquarters."  <g>

Anyway, as I said, Hindquarters was condemned.  They moved us all out
immediately, and my new office is crammed into a part of the maintenance
facility building down the street.  It's kind of OK, though.  But, as
much as another employee complained about the mold, which resulted in
inspections and the subsequent condemnation, I never perceived anything.  
I just didn't get it.  I mentioned that to her, and she said that maybe
my illnesses are a result of the black mold.  I would think that she may
be right, except for the fact that both my sisters exhibit arthritis
symptoms, my twin more than our younger sister.  But, would black mold
make it worse?  Just wondering, as it is an interesting premise.  I
guess I need to do a google search.
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Jo Firey - 24 Oct 2004 00:00 GMT
Think of it this way.  It certainly wouldn't have made it better.  Hope
being away from that nasty stuff make you feel better overall.  I'd guess it
could cause headache, balance problems and could aggravate immune response.

Jo
> Last week, our office building was condemned because of black mold.
> It's a small building, a retrofitted garage actually, right next to our
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> make it worse?  Just wondering, as it is an interesting premise.  I
> guess I need to do a google search.
Alice Faber - 24 Oct 2004 00:14 GMT
> Last week, our office building was condemned because of black mold.  
> It's a small building, a retrofitted garage actually, right next to our
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> make it worse?  Just wondering, as it is an interesting premise.  I
> guess I need to do a google search.

I wouldn't discount that, and neither would my RD.

My symptoms got better, but didn't disappear, when I moved out of an
apartment into my house. There were two possible sources of mold in the
apartment: water leaks (the tenant in the apartment above mine would
occasionally forget that she had started running a bath, and the
management didn't do an adequate ceiling repair) and heating/AC ductwork.

If I'd put this all together before I moved, I would have moved a lot
sooner.

I have other autoimmune problems that developed after I moved into that
apartment, at least chronologically. Even if the cause of this is at
least partially environmental (on top of whatever genetics I inherited),
all of the autoimmune problems remain.

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DiWitt - 24 Oct 2004 01:08 GMT
One of the TV magazine shows had a show on it last year.  Black mold has
another name like "Spochy..something" Very very dangerous apparently.

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It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential
is invisible to the eye. --Antoine de Saint Exup?ry

> Last week, our office building was condemned because of black mold.
> It's a small building, a retrofitted garage actually, right next to our
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> make it worse?  Just wondering, as it is an interesting premise.  I
> guess I need to do a google search.
DiWitt - 24 Oct 2004 01:09 GMT
Ok - I was way off on the name - it's  Strachybotrys chartarum and more
often know as
Strachybotrys atra.

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Cyberhugs,
DianeW

It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential
is invisible to the eye. --Antoine de Saint Exup?ry

> Last week, our office building was condemned because of black mold.
> It's a small building, a retrofitted garage actually, right next to our
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> make it worse?  Just wondering, as it is an interesting premise.  I
> guess I need to do a google search.
Patty - 24 Oct 2004 02:14 GMT
>Strachybotrys atra

Stachybotrys atra. This is the really, really bad one. Businesses have been
trying to ignore it for a long time. Due to Jeff's work, I've been hearing
about it for years. It produces irritating airborne mycotoxins which cause
serious breathing difficulties, memory and hearing loss, dizziness, flulike
symptoms, lung fibrosis and bleeding in the lungs.
  Jeff does a lot of mold work; testing, remediation and expert witnessing.
Currently, he's providing expert testimony against a small airport with a HUGE
'mold' problem. Employees had been suffering various respiratory and allergic
type ailments for a long, long time and the company refused to pay attention.
One woman finally died from lung fibrosis and bleeding in the lungs. Another
remains hospitalized for the same symptoms.
   When the dead woman's attorney got involved, OSHA forced the company into
air and wipe sampling. The results were so horrific that the building was
condemned. Several employees have chronic asthma and/or bronchitis and are
permanently disabled. Others, with less exposure, have recovered, thankfully.
Jeff was able to prove conclusively, that stachybotrus atra is the cause of the
death and other chronic illnesses in the employees. The company is going under
due to lawsuits, whose outcomes, will hopefully, provide for the disabled for
the rest of their lives and also somehow compensate the dead woman's family in
a small way.
  This is one God-awful mold. But, the illness problems that come from it are
almost always related to the respiratory system. Occasionally, hearing is
affected. Arthritic conditions don't appear to be caused by stachybotrus. (I
just ran...okay, I walked...and double-checked with Jeff...no associated
arthritic problems.) Di, I'm glad you're out of that building. Jeff says you
should get a quick checkup on your respiratory system. Since you're not having
symptoms, likely you're fine : )
----
Hoping your hills are never too steep.
Be well, Patty
spodosaurus - 24 Oct 2004 06:36 GMT
>>Strachybotrys atra

There's also been speculation that this organism is what was responsible
for the biblical 'death of the first born' in Egypt all those thousands
of years ago.

>  Stachybotrys atra. This is the really, really bad one. Businesses have been
> trying to ignore it for a long time. Due to Jeff's work, I've been hearing
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> Hoping your hills are never too steep.
> Be well, Patty

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JLee - 24 Oct 2004 05:33 GMT
> Last week, our office building was condemned because of black mold.

I'm just relieved to know you are out of there.  Have heard terrible things
about black mold.  Hope you and the others are all ok.

Janet N.
DiWitt - 25 Oct 2004 13:52 GMT
The Jane Pauley show today is going to be about toxic mold.

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Cyberhugs,
DianeW

It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential
is invisible to the eye. --Antoine de Saint Exup?ry

> Last week, our office building was condemned because of black mold.
> It's a small building, a retrofitted garage actually, right next to our
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> make it worse?  Just wondering, as it is an interesting premise.  I
> guess I need to do a google search.
 
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