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Scotty, a story of a great man and prayer request

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ShenMei9 - 23 Oct 2004 01:24 GMT
Several hours ago someone knocked at my door quite insistently-loud enough to
get me off the treadmill.  I wasn't planning on answering-I was covered in
sweat and wearing sweatpants and a spandex top.  I had ten minutes left to
walk.  The knocking was urgent-I responded.

A man named Tommy who is one of the homeless vets I knew from HAMP days was
standing at my door.  He came to tell me that our friend Scotty was dead.
Scotty was this wonderful mid fifties guy who took it upon himself to be my
guardian angel when we first opened HAMP years ago.  In that first year before
we had enough volunteers and an actual clinic, I would be working at the tiny
little office by myself, treating people who were often just a little scary.
Mental illness, addiction  and alcoholism run rampant through the homeless
community.  I met Scotty sometime in the first week we opened HAMP.  He was a
Nam vet, smart, homeless and an alcoholic and just plain good.

Scotty was a big guy who was missing a few front teeth and looked formidable.
He appointed himself as my guardian angel.  He would sit outside while I was
working to make sure no one gave me a hard time.  I would walk me to my car
when I worked evenings.  That winter I moved him inside so he could sleep in
the little office space.  Scotty became a fixture at HAMP.  Eventually he got
into a program, stopped drinking, bought a little boat and got those teeth
fixed.  He did pickup work at a local lumber yard but in the winter, he was
always there to walk me safely to my car.

Scotty became so invested in the clinic that he would often be reminding people
to take their meds.  He was a street ambassador for HAMP. Even when we had to
shut the clinic doors last year as funding just wasn't covering the clinic and
my personal financial situation meant I was not funding it either, Scotty still
called me to insist that I see someone he thought needed care.  he had an
endearing slightly manipulative phrase, "Doc, you know I'd never ask for myself
but my buddy...."  He never did ask for himself

I have known this guy for years.  As the years rolled by he became a friend.
He had two fears: one was dying alone and the other was having nothing mark his
life spent on this earth.

I had not seen Scotty since I got back from Florida.  Evidently he was bitten
by a spider shortly after I left and developed a staph infection that became
systemic.  He was taking antibiotics but just the penicillin that you get at
the county health clinic.  I guess he was going to go to the VA hospital in
Palo Alto on Tuesday.  He didn't show up for the bus.  Wednesday night a friend
of his was going to crash on the boat with him and found him dead.  He had
indeed died alone.  The prelim autopsy findings are concluding he died of acute
septicemia.

I feel sad that I got so wrapped up in my life after coming back from Florida,
that I didn't check on him.  I feel sad that he didn't let me know he needed
help. He will leave a huge hole in the homeless community and also in my heart.

Here's what I would like from you, my ASA family: can you say a prayer or light
a candle for Scotty?  I am putting this message out to my huge at large
community.  I think the best memorial to him and his gentle spirit is just the
acknowledgment that he lived.  He served his country, he served the homeless
community and he served all of us at the clinic in ways he will never even
know.  He made the small office in a slightly scary part of town feel safe for
all of us who worked there.  

Melinda
Kimmy - 23 Oct 2004 01:34 GMT
>Here's what I would like from you, my ASA family: can you say a prayer or
>light
>a candle for Scotty?

>Melinda

Candle's lit - prayers being said. Wish I could have known him too.

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RoseB - 23 Oct 2004 02:02 GMT
So sad that he has now passed. He may have been physically alone when
he died, but he certainly made his mark by the way he lived his life.
Prayers and condolences to those that knew him.
Rose
Ann - 23 Oct 2004 02:16 GMT
What a lovely story about a wonderful man.  I'd like to think that he
did not really die alone, but rather he was led into the afterlife by
those he helped who had gone on before.

Ann
Alix M. Hall - 23 Oct 2004 13:42 GMT
the real sort of hero---candle lit, prayers winging  Love Alix
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johnie - 23 Oct 2004 01:49 GMT
{{{melinda}}}, so sorry to hear of Scottys death but humbled to hear of
his life. Thanks for sharing that. Am lighting a candle now.
As is often the case when something truly trivial is swirling around
trying to suck all the energy right out of us something else happens to
remind us what is real and important in our lives. Hang in there kiddo.

johnie

> Several hours ago someone knocked at my door quite insistently-loud enough to
> get me off the treadmill.  I wasn't planning on answering-I was covered in
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> Melinda
Melissa - 23 Oct 2004 02:14 GMT
Of course I will pray for Scotty...I hope that some day the things I do will
affect as many people as his life did.

((((Melinda))))

melissa

>{{{melinda}}}, so sorry to hear of Scottys death but humbled to hear of
>his life. Thanks for sharing that. Am lighting a candle now.
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>> Melinda
Newsgroup Spambuster - 23 Oct 2004 01:58 GMT
Melinda,

What a lovely story of a mans life!  So very sorry to hear of his death.
My deepest sympathies to you and all that knew and loved Scotty!

A candle has just been lit and prayers are being said!!!

Blessings to you all!

Donna G
Walt Hanks - 23 Oct 2004 02:06 GMT
I wonder what Scotty would say about you trying to blame yourself for his
death.

Celebrate the life my friend.  Scotty is in a much better place now among
those who appreciate all his sacrifices.  He is loved.  He needs no prayers
tonight.  I'll say one for you.

{{{{{Melinda}}}}}

Walt

> I feel sad that I got so wrapped up in my life after coming back from Florida,
> that I didn't check on him.  I feel sad that he didn't let me know he needed
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> Melinda
Kelly Cobb - 23 Oct 2004 02:09 GMT
((((Scotty)))) & ((((Melinda))))

I will light the candle as soon as I sign off on this. Thanks for letting me
get know about another wonderful person that made a difference in the world.

Hugs,
Kelly C.
Janet R - 23 Oct 2004 02:11 GMT
Its done....{{{{Melinda}}}}}

Janet R

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kenneth pounders - 23 Oct 2004 02:14 GMT
>Several hours ago someone knocked at my door quite insistently-loud enough to
>get me off the treadmill.  I wasn't planning on answering-I was covered in
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>Melinda

What a sad story Melinda. I knew several homeless people around rail
yards when I worked on the railroad. They would never bother us but at
times they would ask us if any of us had a sandwich or something they
could have to eat. I always carried a varity of goodies in my grip and
would share that with them any time. I always remembered what an old
head engineer told me one day when I was in training as we pulled out
of the yard in North Little Rock at a snales pace. We pulled by a
couple of homeless guys along the Arkansas river and he threw them a
few dollars wraped in a water cup. Then he looked at me and said "but
for the grace of God, there goes you and I." I never forgot that.
Scotty won't be forgotten here either.

~Kenny
ShenMei9 - 26 Oct 2004 05:01 GMT
Kenny,
I am not sure there is anything more true than "but for the grace of God, go
you and I"

It is certainly something I would see and feel every day when working with the
homeless.

I had a friend back in the glory days of the late 70's who was a total coke
fiend.  She was so much like me.  We were both aquarians, our kids were the
same age, we were both musicians and surfers and on and on....

It was literally the grace of God that kept me from the drug world so prevalent
in the 70's and 80's.  

I stuck by her for years, even taking her kids to raise for several years and
daily I got that blessed reminder that I could have been there, too, with just
a few different steps.

She has been clean and sober for 15 years now.  When you walk in her kitchen
there is a little embroidered hanging that say, "there but for the grace of
God, go I"

She considers herself quite lucky that she didn't go the way of so many of the
people she knew, who are dead or in prison.

Perspective....

m
Walt Hanks - 26 Oct 2004 10:52 GMT
> Kenny,
> I am not sure there is anything more true than "but for the grace of God, go
> you and I"

I often think of the many friends I grew up with who are not with us today.
My High School class started out with well over 600 people, but by the time
we graduated in June of '78, we were down to a little over 400.  We had 24
kids killed our senior year alone, almost all from drug and alcohol induced
mva's.

A year after graduation, Skip, one of my closer friends, got drunk one night
at the airport lounge, when out and got in an airplane, and crashed on
takeoff.  His funeral was one of the saddest days of my life.

Drugs were such a huge part of our lives in the 70's, I marvel today that I
survived it.  I hope that no other generation goes through what we went
through.

Walt
JLee - 26 Oct 2004 14:23 GMT
> Drugs were such a huge part of our lives in the 70's, I marvel today that I
> survived it.  I hope that no other generation goes through what we went
> through.
>
> Walt

I also graduated in '78.  We only lost a few in high school, but in the two
years following we lost many more.  A sign of the times, I guess.  More to
alcohol than drugs in our case, but so sad.  Our 10th reunion was sure an
eye-opener.

Every time I look at my kids I thank God they made it through their teen
years without succumbing to drugs or alcohol.  Sometimes when I look at my
granddaughter I am terrified for her future... and pray she manages to grow
up without those influences as well.

Janet N.
Nann Bell - 26 Oct 2004 14:29 GMT
For Mike, it was the double whammy of drugs and Vietnam.  One of his best
friends growing up is now on the wall in DC.  He lost others in VN and lost
other friends to drugs or alcohol.  All in a graduating class of 80.  Mike
was lucky to survive his service in Vietnam and  what experimenting he did
with drugs (he remembers standing up to some folks on the bus in Chicago at 5
am - violent sorts - and knew afterwards that he wasn't touching anymore of
that stuff!  He was more interested in living.)

Ironically my class had very few major problems with drugs, including
alcohol.  Not sure why, they were present but I only know of one person who
died as a result of using, and that was several years after graduation.  
Being that we had a major university less than 7 miles from my school, we
could get anything we wanted quite easily.  We were also the class that got
ALL of the experimental anti-drug programs.  I mean, we were slammed with it
every time we turned around, often from university students who were telling
us what they'd been through and to stay away!  They didn't pretend at all
that there weren't attractions to doing drugs, but they also didn't sugarcoat
the downside.  Maybe it really worked. I know they guaranteed I'd never, ever
sniff glue!

It was such a time of upheaval on so many fronts in this country.  A
difficult time for all.

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>> Kenny,
>> I am not sure there is anything more true than "but for the grace of God,
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>
> Walt
d'huit - 28 Oct 2004 21:52 GMT
strange, now that i think about it.  our large san jose class of '66 didn't
lose any seniors (high school of 2400 students) to drugs, alcohol, accidents
or illnesses.  i remember 3 pregnant girls (one a cheerleader, one nat'l
honor society member and one average student) were allowed to graduate with
the rest of our class.   i still think credit and high praise should be
given to our school board for their foresight, in not damaging the longterm
self-esteem of those girls, for their naivet?.  the board took a tremendous
amount of flack, from a few very vocal parents, for that decision, but i
still think it was the right call to make.  our class had no problem with
the girls graduating with us, but those few parents were judgmental and felt
shame should be inflicted on the girls, though they had no qualms about the
boys graduating with us.  those parents' attitudes were representative of
the typical double standard of the era.  i'm glad the school board members
had so much courage.

we have a lot of classmates on the d.c. wall, don't know exactly how many.
i personally knew 11 of them, dated 4 in high school and later.  too many of
my friends and classmates came home from nam shattered emotionally and
physically.  didn't lose any classmates after graduation to drugs or alcohol
(that i know of), though one was shot in his home, protecting his wife from
an intruder/burgler a few years after returning from nam; and many are gone
now, because of diseases and accidents (non-drug related) and deliberate
suicides (mostly vets)--almost 40 years now, since we were kids.

i remember our junior year, when glue sniffing was the rage, though not in
my school, and acid experimentation began for a couple of my classmates.
pot smoking was the more common thing to experiment with (especially after
high school graduation), though alcohol was more readily available.

i only know of one classmate who became a member of the homeless and
disenfranchised in the very late '70s, a vet who had been one of our class'
jocks, though not the most popular nor the most touted in the local papers.
several of our classmates contacted more of us about brad.  in a short time,
enough money was collected for mental health care and to give him a start.
an old car was donated for him and one classmate had a growing printing
business and gave him a job.

he passed away from a heart attack a few years ago, but brad did good things
with his life after the nudge we gave him, even coached the boys' club
baseball team (which still makes me smile, cuz he was a wrestler for our
school squad).  he married about a year after our nudge.  left a wife, two
daughters and a son well provided for when he died, and a lot of good
memories.

whew!   this thread stirred up a lot of memories.

kate

> For Mike, it was the double whammy of drugs and Vietnam.  One of his best
> friends growing up is now on the wall in DC.  He lost others in VN and
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>> Walt
Jo Firey - 29 Oct 2004 00:45 GMT
> strange, now that i think about it.  our large san jose class of '66
> didn't lose any seniors (high school of 2400 students) to drugs, alcohol,
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> parents' attitudes were representative of the typical double standard of
> the era.  i'm glad the school board members had so much courage.

I graduated from high school in 1964.  And after graduation, there were a
lot of kids telling their parents they were married and pregnant and
therefore not draftable.  Hard to find fault when so many of that class went
to Vietnam and didn't come home.

Jo
Caroline Marold - 26 Oct 2004 15:15 GMT
My cousin Robin has never left the 70's. He is on his
way to hitting rock bottom. Might have done it years
ago if his parents [read mother] had quit babying him.
He still calls home and lies and pleads for money. He
is homeless now and still does not 'get' it. Thinks the
world owes him something. We pray he hits bottom and
then comes out the other side. He has been on methadone
for 15 years plus whatever else he was able to add to
his system. Got a friend who had been that route and
says the stuff is a crime in itself. Makes the person
feel good so why would they want to get off it. Says
you have to hit bottom first to do that and the stuff
keeps you off the floor so to speak.
The 70's were hard on us all but harder yet on others.
I wish, as you do, that no new generation has to go
through that.
Duckie

>>Kenny,
>>I am not sure there is anything more true than "but for the grace of God,
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> Walt

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Jo Firey - 23 Oct 2004 03:41 GMT
> Here's what I would like from you, my ASA family: can you say a prayer or
> light
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>
> Melinda

Sounds like Scotty was living proof that anyone, anywhere, no matter what
their circumstances can make a difference.  There will be many candles lit
tonight for Scotty.

Jo
Gwen Love - 23 Oct 2004 03:52 GMT
Melinda, I think Scotty's life really meant something.  What he did for you
and HAMP was such a good thing.  My sympathy to you.
Gwen

> Several hours ago someone knocked at my door quite insistently-loud enough to
> get me off the treadmill.  I wasn't planning on answering-I was covered in
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> Melinda
Alex Barna - 23 Oct 2004 04:16 GMT
Hi Melinda,
Take it from someone that's been there, Scotty doesn't need prayers.

Sending Good Thoughts for those left behind,
{{{{All those that have been touched by Scotty}}}}

GramPaHugs,
Alex,

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> Melinda

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Harvey R. Stone - 23 Oct 2004 04:25 GMT
Well done and well said.   I will say a prayer for everyone that is effected
by his death or knew him.
Harv

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> Melinda
AChrist787 - 23 Oct 2004 04:48 GMT
Melinda,  Thank you for sharing a story of such an incredible man.  He may have
died without another human with him, but he didn't die alone.

Anne

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JLee - 23 Oct 2004 04:53 GMT
What a beautiful tribute.  I shed a tear for someone I've never met, but
feel that I now know in some small way.  I will remember Scotty in my
prayers, and also those whose lives he touched.

Janet N.
ShenMei9 - 26 Oct 2004 05:06 GMT
Thanks to all of you who lit a candle for scotty.  We will do a memorial
service this Friday and I want to print out all your messages burn them a
scatter the ashes on the beach.

The kids decided to name the blanket giveaway after scotty this year as there
way of making sure he would be remembered.  I love those kids-their deep caring
neverr ceases to amaze me

m

m
Jo Firey - 26 Oct 2004 08:58 GMT
> Thanks to all of you who lit a candle for scotty.  We will do a memorial
> service this Friday and I want to print out all your messages burn them a
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> m

Is there any way you could get a rubber stamp or something that you could
mark on the blankets that they are in Scotty's honor?  Or fold a little note
about him into each one.

Jo
Patty - 26 Oct 2004 13:16 GMT
Sending prayers and have a candle lit for Scotty. His legacy will live on,
Melinda. I bet he knows that now : )
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Be well, Patty
d'huit - 28 Oct 2004 09:52 GMT
>> Thanks to all of you who lit a candle for scotty.  We will do a memorial
>> service this Friday and I want to print out all your messages burn them a
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> Jo

what a sweet thought!  i love that, jo.

kate
ShenMei9 - 28 Oct 2004 16:37 GMT
Jo, sorry about not reponding to that suggestion.  That wa a good idea.  Passed
it on to the blanket group and they loved it.  They will make a simple little
card to be pinned inside each blanket that says "this blanket brought to you by
Scotty"

Thanks

m
Kelly - 23 Oct 2004 05:04 GMT
Melinda,
That candle is being lit tomorrow for Scotty.  Sounds like a special person.
As are you.

Kelly
d'huit - 23 Oct 2004 05:05 GMT
what a lovely and loving man he was.  i'm glad he touched your life in such
meaningful ways.  i just lit a large pink candle to honor and commemorate
scotty's life.  ((((((((((melinda))))))))))  i know you'll miss him in the
time ahead, but i thank goodness you didn't miss him in the past you shared.
how lucky and blest you both were.

kate

> Several hours ago someone knocked at my door quite insistently-loud enough
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> Melinda
Luyenne - 23 Oct 2004 05:09 GMT
Melinda, Scotty must have been a wonderful person. Prayers are being said for
this kind man as well as for you.
You have my sympathy.
Donna
KRopos - 23 Oct 2004 15:02 GMT
Sounds like a sweetie, I'm lighting a candle for him
Kate    Send in the clowns
I will not drag you along; I will not leave you alone; I will stand
by you and have my hand there for you to hold when you need it.
Adelle D. Stavis, Esq. - 23 Oct 2004 15:34 GMT
In Judaism, when someone does we say "Blessed is the judge of truth."

Scotty was a true friend . And the Almighty saw truth and saw its goodness;
its completeness. Being complete, there was no more to be done.

May Scotty's spirit be an inspiration to us all.

Blessed be.

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> Melinda
Harvey R. Stone - 23 Oct 2004 18:59 GMT
> In Judaism, when someone does we say "Blessed is the judge of truth."
>
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>
> Blessed be.

Well said,,,,   Scotty is a good example of thousands of young men that
being in war crushed their self esteem.  Coming home and being spit on was
worse than the war itself.   Many a Sunday afternoon at the vet. hospital
here in Houston,  I watched football and let someone pour their heart out
with what life has dealt them.   Alcohol,,, drugs,,,, loss of what it takes
to be a normal type person in society.   War has a big price and it is more
than the national debt.   One thing we must not forget,,,, it is better to
fight it on their soil if it must be done.
Harv
delcorso - 23 Oct 2004 16:14 GMT
What a touching story.  Reminds me of that quote that goes something
like this....people don't remember the details of what you did, but
will never forget how you made them feel.
Everyone needs to feel valued.  There's no doubt that you helped
Scotty feel valued and the opposite...he helped you feel the same way,
but for different reasons.   I'm sure he knows how much you cared and
appreciated him.

Just lighted a candle for Scotty.  Thinking of you, Melinda.
Carol
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 23 Oct 2004 16:48 GMT
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Caroline Marold - 23 Oct 2004 20:32 GMT
For you - Scotty

On Being a Champion

A Champion is a winner,
 A hero...
 Someone who never gives up
 Even when the going gets rough.
 A champion is a member of
 A winning team...
 Someone who overcomes challenges
 Even when it requires creative solutions.
 A champion is an optimist,
 A hopeful spirit...
 Someone who plays the game,
 Even when the game is called life.
 There can be a champion in each of us,
 If we live as a winner,
 If we live as a member of the team,
 If we live with a hopeful spirit,
 For Life.
by Mattie Stepanek
http://myhero.com/myhero/hero.asp?hero=mattieStepanek

Prayers for all and most especially for those that will
miss Scotty and hold his memory in their hearts.
Duckie

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ShenMei9 - 23 Oct 2004 20:27 GMT
Caroline,
thank you so much for that-I loved Matty like he was my own kid and I will use
that poem for Scotty's memorial, if you don't mind.

m
Caroline Marold - 23 Oct 2004 22:00 GMT
I don't mind. That child was too wise for his age. And
he would be proud that you feel it fits so well.
Duckie

> Caroline,
> thank you so much for that-I loved Matty like he was my own kid and I will use
> that poem for Scotty's memorial, if you don't mind.
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Nann Bell - 25 Oct 2004 00:39 GMT
Melinda, I myself have been quite busy this wekend and didn't see this until
just now.  I have just lit a candle for Scotty.  He sounds like a specail
sort of person who will be missed by all who knew him.

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Squirrely - 25 Oct 2004 21:52 GMT
Melinda,

I am so sorry for your loss. Scotty sounds like someone the world will be
sorry to have lost. I wish there were more good people like him around. My
heart goes out to all thos that have been affected by his loss.

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Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

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