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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / October 2004Query from Bob Taggart
Hey guys and gals, Bob asked me to ask you if anyone knows of an OTC to take care of pain that will not raise the liver enzymes. His biopsy went extremely well Monday and we still have another week before we can call for the results, but his bulging disk is still giving him a lot of trouble. I told him everything passes through the liver, but he wants to know if there is one brand better than the others. I promised I would ask you folks. He asked me to "ask the experts" for him. DeeTee ________________________________ DeeTee and Bob Taggart http://www.marykay.com/dtaggart3 http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ ________________________________ DeeTee, Can he take aspirin? It's not as hard on the liver as most of the OTC's. For me, it's a most amazing painkiller. But, it tears my stomach up after only 1 dose. Also, the old standby nsaids won't affect the liver in the same way that acetaminophen does. (They're actually harder on the kidneys.) My brother has cirrhosis and his gastro doc allows him to take ibuprofen when his PA is acting up. Ice helps my bad disks a lot. It's not very soothing, but, it reduces the swelling a lot, thus, lessening the pain. Twenty minutes with an ice pack, then 10 minutes with my heating pad often gives me some decent relief. A little bit of light stretching, Sore No More and Mineral Ice help some, too. Maybe he could see an accupuncturist? Hope his biopsy results are perfect and that his back starts feeling better soon! Let us know : ) ---- Hoping your hills are never too steep. Be well, Patty enteric aspirin is easier on the stomach. kate > DeeTee, > Can he take aspirin? It's not as hard on the liver as most of the OTC's. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Hoping your hills are never too steep. > Be well, Patty DeeTee, The best painkiller who is gentle for the liver is " DAFALGAN 500 mg" The active ingredient is Paracetamol. In the whole Europe and Belgium the first choice is dafalgan, even in the hospitals. You can take 1000 mg (1gram) at once tree times a day. There is a stronger version Dafalgan + codeine, but only your doc can prescribe it. An expert from Belgium Wil Waving from belgium > Hey guys and gals, Bob asked me to ask you if anyone knows of an OTC to take > care of pain that will not raise the liver enzymes. His biopsy went [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ > ________________________________ Never heard of that -- maybe a name change when it hits the states? Just found it Paracetamol has been in use as an analgesic for home medication for over 30 years and is accepted as a very effective treatment for the relief of pain and fever in adults and children. The following information on paracetamol is provided by the Paracetamol Information Centre. Paracetamol is also known as acetaminophen. Tylenol. Not sure where it is metabolized though DeeTee. Duckie Gaëtan Michiels wrote: > DeeTee, > The best painkiller who is gentle for the liver is " DAFALGAN 500 mg" The [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >>http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ >>________________________________  Signature_('> (_<_) _ _('< -quack (_<_) _ __('< *QUACK!* <_{__) _('< "|,,|_" (_<_) _('< "AFLAC!" (_<_) >Paracetamol has been in use as an analgesic for home >medication for over 30 years Paracetamol is acetaminophen, aka Tylenol. It is very hard on the liver, unfortunately. ---- Hoping your hills are never too steep. Be well, Patty Not if you take Milk Thistle, Patty. Gwen > >Paracetamol has been in use as an analgesic for home > >medication for over 30 years [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Hoping your hills are never too steep. > Be well, Patty >Not if you take Milk Thistle, Patty Hi Gwen, Milk thistle helps. But, acetaminophen is still very hard on the liver. People with liver problems, particularly, shouldn't take acetaminophen at all, even with milk thistle. (At least, that's what my brother's gastro doc says. He takes milk thistle, but, was told never to take acetaminophen again in his lifetime. He can take ibuprofen sometimes, if he needs it.) ---- Hoping your hills are never too steep. Be well, Patty Thanks, everyone. Yes, it was tylenol raising the liver enzymes, I'm sure. We'll know more when we get the results. We'll just have to keep looking. DeeTee ________________________________ DeeTee and Bob Taggart http://www.marykay.com/dtaggart3 http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ ________________________________ > Never heard of that -- maybe a name change when it hits the states? > Just found it [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >>>http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ >>>________________________________ Hi Diana & Bob, The only thing I have experanced that helped a bulging disk (& I've had a lot of them) has been traction & tri-buffered aspirin with milk thistle for liver protection. GramPaHugs, Alex, > Hey guys and gals, Bob asked me to ask you if anyone knows of an OTC to take > care of pain that will not raise the liver enzymes. His biopsy went [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ > ________________________________ -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. No endorsement is implied or intended. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * <a href="http://home.mn.rr.com/apbiii">AOL Click</a> * <a href="http://grampahugs.is-a-geek.org/">AOL Click</a> **************************************************** Alex, what is tri-buffered aspirin? Tried to look for it on drugstore.com and didn't find it. My mom takes every other day aspirin and it just kills her stomach so I'm looking for a substitute melinda Hi Melinda, > Alex, > what is tri-buffered aspirin? Tried to look for it on drugstore.com and didn't > find it. My mom takes every other day aspirin and it just kills her stomach so > I'm looking for a substitute > > melinda It is regular 325 mg aspirin coated with a triple layer of magnesium carbonate, calcium carbonate & magnesium oxide. By the time the buffer layers devolve the aspirin os in the intestines so there is no stomach upset. I took so many regular aspirins in the past that I poop blood if I take a regular aspirin. We get them at Walgreens & a google search on "tri-buffered+aspirin" turned up lots of other places that sell them. HTH, GramPaHugs, Alex, -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. No endorsement is implied or intended. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * <a href="http://home.mn.rr.com/apbiii">AOL Click</a> * <a href="http://grampahugs.is-a-geek.org/">AOL Click</a> **************************************************** The every-other-day aspirin therapy is to thin the blood and make it so there are no clots to kill someone. Aspirin is aspirin (buffering doesn't help me because my pain is in my bowels. My dad is on a different blood thinner that the doc could consider in your mom's case. Best regards to you and your mom. Val in Boise | Alex, | what is tri-buffered aspirin? Tried to look for it on drugstore.com and didn't | find it. My mom takes every other day aspirin and it just kills her stomach so | I'm looking for a substitute | | melinda Bob says thank you all. He's thinking about going to our doc and seeing what prescription pain med they give him. DeeTee ________________________________ DeeTee and Bob Taggart http://www.marykay.com/dtaggart3 http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ ________________________________ > Hey guys and gals, Bob asked me to ask you if anyone knows of an OTC to > take care of pain that will not raise the liver enzymes. His biopsy went [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ > ________________________________ >Bob says thank you all. He's thinking about going to our doc and seeing >what prescription pain med they give him. > >DeeTee Well now, there's an option. Tell him not to mess around and just go. Hope he feels better soon. Sarah L "Friends are those people who know the words to the song in your heart and sing them back to you when you have forgotten the words." (unattributed) |
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