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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / October 2004Re-Flu Shots
Kate, thanks for the idea, but it didn't work! They have no idea where anybody is who has the vaccine. The pharmacies have all cancelled theirs, and the Health Dept. doesn't have any scheduled yet. Good try, though. Gwen  Signature============================================================================ ===================================== Music has the capacity to bypass the mind, speak to the heart, and communicate a thought with a richness of feeling beyond the ability of words. Robert Whitlow ============================================================================ ===================================== Apparently Canada has a lot of available doses. If you live close enough! SignatureGeorge Eberhardt (732)224-8988 > Kate, thanks for the idea, but it didn't work! They have no idea where > anybody is who has the vaccine. The pharmacies have all cancelled theirs, > and the Health Dept. doesn't have any scheduled yet. > Good try, though. > Gwen ============================================================================ > ===================================== > Music has the capacity to bypass the mind, speak to the heart, and > communicate a thought with a richness of feeling beyond the ability of > words. > Robert Whitlow ============================================================================ > ===================================== > Apparently Canada has a lot of available doses. If you live close enough! At one point the US was supposed to try to buy some of the vaccine from Canada. But it would be such a political hot potato if Canada sold some of their supply and they had a nasty epidemic. (And I'm guessing we'd be willing to pay quite a premium) A real dilemma for medical ethics. Jo >> Apparently Canada has a lot of available doses. If you live close enough! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Jo While we seem to have an adequate supply it is being handled much differently this year. The doctors' offices are not getting any of the free serum for the immunocompromised and chronically ill. Those that typically get the "free" shot have to go to a clinic. We used to have a nurse come in and give shots to the teachers; that is not happening this year. Instead they have to go and book an appointment at the local pharmacy. Rose >>> Apparently Canada has a lot of available doses. If you live close >>> enough! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > local pharmacy. > Rose Now I'm not usually one to complain how bad teacher have it but for crying out loud. If there were only 1000 flu shots available in the whole country they should go to elementary school teachers! Nurses next then maybe doctors and after that it can be a free for all. I might be considered "at risk" but I at least have the option of staying home. Jo >I might be considered "at risk" but I at least have the option of staying >home. Well thank you. I thought that was a very nice thing to say. Rose It's funny you should say that my inlaws are fighting for a flu shot for my 1 year old nephew (they have custody). Seems no one wants to pay for it my inlaws even offered to pay themselves. And the other issue is the shortage. Just this week they had an apointment with the Board of Health in the area and they told my mil just keep him out of the public...uh duh...he goes to day care and both my inlaws work with people. This little one already has asthma and has lots of lung issues (mom was a heroin addict) getting the flu really could kill him and the states answer is keep him out of the public. Pretty scary if you ask me... melissa >>>> Apparently Canada has a lot of available doses. If you live close >>>> enough! [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >Jo Rose, Our local health department usually brings in flu shots for the teachers, but this year they're not doing it either. A couple of years ago when there was a shortage, the teachers who were considered high risk were able to get the shots. Our school nurse would not give me one without a note from my GP saying I was high risk, but she gave others theirs. Boy, was my GP ticked off when I told him that. The next year, she wouldn't give me one because she'd never heard of Enbrel and didn't want to take the risk of giving me the shot. I decided I would not get another flu shot at the school again. Carol > >>> Apparently Canada has a lot of available doses. If you live close > >>> enough! [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Jo >Rose, >Our local health department usually brings in flu shots for the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >decided I would not get another flu shot at the school again. >Carol My goodness gracious. Someone in public health should understand that RA means that one's immune system is not functioning normally with or without immune suppression. Insofaras flu shots in general, I am fairly sure that school districts actually save money in the long run by providing the shots. But I don't blame you for not wanting the shot at school. Rose Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown, one seeks to understand it. RB >While we seem to have an adequate supply it is being handled much >differently this year. The doctors' offices are not getting any of the >free serum for the immunocompromised and chronically ill. Those that >typically get the "free" shot have to go to a clinic. Rose, I have never paid for a flu shot. Do you pay? --- Joan >>While we seem to have an adequate supply it is being handled much >>differently this year. The doctors' offices are not getting any of the >>free serum for the immunocompromised and chronically ill. Those that >>typically get the "free" shot have to go to a clinic. > >Rose, I have never paid for a flu shot. Do you pay? I don't pay, but people without a medical condition do have to pay. Some work places cover it for their employees, but our school district does not. ienjoyed receiving mine at the doctor's office, as oposed to standing at the clinic and waiting in line. (yes enjoyed,,, it is a relative term- at the doc's office it is quick and over with- in the clinic there can be a long wait and you are in a roomful of people) Rose >>>While we seem to have an adequate supply it is being handled much >>>differently this year. The doctors' offices are not getting any of the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >there can be a long wait and you are in a roomful of people) >Rose I pay a $10 dollar co-pay if I go to the doctor's office only for the shot. If he gives me one while I am there for my regular appointment It's free. So I guess I really don't pay at all for the shot. Thumper To reply drop XYZ in address > Rose, I have never paid for a flu shot. Do you pay? > --- > Joan I have to pay some years... I am healthy enough not to need a free one, but have had them free in the past when on mtx. I heard the cost here this year is $17-$20, but if it is like last year, a few pharmacies will advertise at $15. Well worth it IMO. Janet N. (btw Joan... Gloria from asms says hello) >(btw Joan... Gloria from asms says hello) Say hello back. Where is she? --- Joan She's back in Edmonton... we just spent today playing 'grandma' together. Unfortunately, she is now on the other side of town so we don't visit as often as we used to. She's doing very well, and wanted to let you know (her computer time is limited for now). Janet N. > >(btw Joan... Gloria from asms says hello) > > Say hello back. Where is she? > --- > Joan > While we seem to have an adequate supply it is being handled much > differently this year. The doctors' offices are not getting any of the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > local pharmacy. > Rose Rose, is that nationwide, or is it a BC thing? Just curious, as I am supposed to drive a friend to the walk-in clinic on Monday for her free shot... maybe she should be calling them first... thanks, Janet >Rose, is that nationwide, or is it a BC thing? Just curious, as I am >supposed to drive a friend to the walk-in clinic on Monday for her free >shot... maybe she should be calling them first... > >thanks, >Janet I don't know. Either way it would not hurt to call ahead. Rose It isn't even a BC thing. My doctor's office got 156 or maybe more for the free shots. I get mine on Tuesday morning. Those go to Seniors, chronically ill, children and families of chronically ill. Kelly ~~~~Apparently Canada has a lot of available doses. If you live close enough! At one point the US was supposed to try to buy some of the vaccine from Canada. But it would be such a political hot potato if Canada sold some of their supply and they had a nasty epidemic. (And I'm guessing we'd be willing to pay quite a premium) A real dilemma for medical ethics. ~~~~Jo The news stories I've been following aren't talking about buying vaccines meant for Canadians. They said that Canada has a production facility that can ramp up production and produce an extra 1.6 million for the US. Our flu season is delayed this year so they think they can produce them in time. -g- Kitty > ~~~~Apparently Canada has a lot of available doses. If you live close > enough! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Kitty according to the cable news networks, the delivery date for that supply appears to be set for some time in january, which is a bit late for the onset of our "normal" flu season. kate ~~~~according to the cable news networks, the delivery date for that supply appears to be set for some time in january, which is a bit late for the onset of our "normal" flu season. ~~~~kate That's why I mentioned that we aren't having a 'normal' flu season. The CDC usually starts getting notices of flu epidemic pockets in late September, and as of yesterday, none had been reported. The report said they hadn't figured out why yet, but under the circumstances it's a good thing. The flu season is about six months long, so even if it hits the first of November, the January date will still help some. -g- Kitty > ~~~~according to the cable news networks, the delivery date for that > supply appears to be set for some time in january, which is a bit late [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Kitty hopefully, the worst of it doesn't happen before then. there have been a few, but very few, cases in our area. kate My husband has not seen a single flu case yet in his office. He usually is bogged down by now. Janet R | ~~~~according to the cable news networks, the delivery date for that | supply appears to be set for some time in january, which is a bit late [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] | | Kitty Two points One manufacturer in Canada reported that have 1.6 million units available now. Production could be ramped up immediately but the US government is playing political games. This is one time prtectionist attitudes are coming back to bite people in the butt. In Ontario, no one pays for the vaccine. If you want the convenience of an in office shot it'll cost $20 (labour) Ontario has clinics in Malls, community centers, schools as well as medical clinics. They are held over the next 1 to 2 months on about every day of the week. There is seldom much of a wait. last year was 15 min, The year before about 30 min. >> ~~~~Apparently Canada has a lot of available doses. If you live close >> enough! [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.779 / Virus Database: 526 - Release Date: 10/19/2004 > If you want the convenience >of an in office shot it'll cost $20 (labour) Not in Perth, or at least, not at my doctor's office. --- Joan Relax, Bryan. No one is attacking your medical system. You're happy with it and that's what counts. Suck down a margarita and have another for me. It's been years since I had one and it sounds great! -g- Kitty Kitty Would you stop analyzing everything I say. You have an awful lot to say about just about everything. We're talking about the availability ofd a vaccine and not our health care system. Have another beverage and relax. On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:34:55 -0700, KittyQOTU@webtv.net (Kitty Kelly) wrote: >Relax, Bryan. No one is attacking your medical system. You're happy >with it and that's what counts. > >Suck down a margarita and have another for me. It's been years since I "d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast.2net> wrote in message news:Te- >> The news stories I've been following aren't talking about buying >> vaccines meant for Canadians. They said that Canada has a production [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > kate Latest on the local news is that there are quite a number from the US crossing over into Mexico to get their shot. Along with the usual warning that they don't have the same quality controls, etc that we always get over buying drugs in Mexico. So as usual the individual has to assess the risk without adequate information. Is it better to head across the border if you can and take that chance (if in fact it even is taking a chance) or is it better to go without? And next thing you hear will be the news reports of quantities being transported illegally out of Mexico and of fake vaccine being sold that is supposedly from Mexico but really isn't. Jo ~~~~~Latest on the local news is that there are quite a number from the US crossing over into Mexico to get their shot. Along with the usual warning that they don't have the same quality controls, etc that we always get over buying drugs in Mexico. So as usual the individual has to assess the risk without adequate information. Is it better to head across the border if you can and take that chance (if in fact it even is taking a chance) or is it better to go without? And next thing you hear will be the news reports of quantities being transported illegally out of Mexico and of fake vaccine being sold that is supposedly from Mexico but really isn't. ~~~~~Jo If anyone here is thinking about Mexico, I wouldn't recommend it. The border states try to keep an eye on quality control from this side and problems are popping up more and more otten. A few years ago the small stores that cater to Mexicans were bringing a new 'miracle cream' over the border that contained high levels of mercury. There were a lot of sick women and a few kids. They're also finding Rx drugs that are phony. The bottles and labels are exact copies and they have a factory seal, but the drugs are not what they say they are. Anyone can put a factory seal on in their kitchen. -g- Kitty > ~~~~~Latest on the local news is that there are quite a number from the > US crossing over into Mexico to get their shot. Along with the usual [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Kitty Trouble is, that happens in the US as well, without any help from anyone in Mexico. There are greedy, unscrupulous doctors and pharmacists everywhere. Not many, but it doesn't take many if you are the one being hurt. I'm quite sure there are reputable drug chains and medical clinics on the other side of the US borders. Shopping in a back alley is a bad idea anywhere in the world. Jo > Apparently Canada has a lot of available doses. If you live close enough! That's because none of their drug manufactuers shut down production. That is happened in the U.S. after a certain ambulance chaser with the name John Edwards won a nearly $5million lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company for a client in North Carolina. > Kate, thanks for the idea, but it didn't work! They have no idea where > anybody is who has the vaccine. The pharmacies have all cancelled theirs, > and the Health Dept. doesn't have any scheduled yet. > Good try, though. > Gwen bummer, gwen. a best bud of mine, who's perfectly healthy and didn't try to get one, noticed one single 8x11 flyer posted on the public side of the costco hearing screening desk and called me about the costco shots. otherwise, i wouldn't have known about it. generally, lots of supermarkets and fire stations, up here, have immunization set-ups. maxim health systems is the company that does them, with flu vaccines from aventis and pneumococcal vaccines from merck. Maxim Health Systems corporate address is: 7080 Samuel Morse Dr.; Columbia, MD 21046. dunno if this might help you, but maybe there's a web site or phone number from which you can get their local schedules for your area? i sure hope that helps you, gwen. kate Kate, Maxim is the company who had set up flu clinics in my area also. They were given a cease and desist order by the local Health Department last week and cancelled all further clinics. This is what probably happened in Gwen's state also. The only reason given, that I have heard, is that the lines at the clinics were getting long and disorderly and the site owners were afraid of getting sued if someone got ill or dropped dead while waiting in line. Ann > Kate, Maxim is the company who had set up flu clinics in my area also. > They were given a cease and desist order by the local Health Department [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Ann whoa! i didn't know that. thanks, ann. i just got my shot from them, at costco, on the 15th. i'm really sorry to hear that people in other areas of the country couldn't control their emotions and behavior. our line was 1000 long, 3 hour standing wait, and the washitonians in my area saw that as an opportunity to make new friends and acquaintances. i actually had a lot of fun, trading quips and sharing stories, with 4 perfect strangers in line (women ranging in age from 86 to 56--i was the baby<grin>---none of us had ever met before). we even wound up waiting for each other, to get our shots, and wound up hugging each other as we said good-bye---honestly. it was an amazingly and genuinely sweet experience. i wish that experience for everyone else who has to wait in long lines like that. kate Wow...thats sounds like a great time! I like those kind of moments. Janet R "d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast.2net> wrote in message news:VL2dna5s74BgGeXcRVn- | i'm really sorry to hear that people in other areas of the country couldn't | control their emotions and behavior. our line was 1000 long, 3 hour [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.779 / Virus Database: 526 - Release Date: 10/19/2004 Kate, I don't think (at least I hope not) that people were beating each other up in the line. Rather that they were lined up outside the store in cold, rainy weather and were getting cranky. The manager of at least two stores called the police to keep order, not really to keep the peace. Just had a silly thought. Imagine a bunch of elderly people with canes, walkers and portable oxygen units hitting each other over the head. Will be up all night giggling about this now. Ann > Kate, I don't think (at least I hope not) that people were beating each > other up in the line. Rather that they were lined up outside the store [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Ann ROTFLMAO! what an image!LOL i think i'll be up all night giggling with you. thanks, ann.LOL kate |
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