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Evil Stiletto Heels

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Clarence Crow - 19 Oct 2004 20:14 GMT
Hello again

First up I'm a straight guy! (m.69.au).
I always have liked seeing elegant Ladies in Stiletto Heels and I
guess they like the attention they get too.

In the late '50s-early '60s, my wife (f.67.au) used to run in 4"
Stilettos daily from the Train Station to her work in the CBD in
Melbourne. She even had some pairs with 5" heels for clubbing, etc.
etc.

As times and fashion changed, she went with the styles, but about 10
yrs ago, she had to have 2 separate ops on each of her big toes and
have a plastic joint inserted. Now she wears nothing higher than 2"
heels and they are fairly wide.

I'd like to hear stories from the women in the group who have suffered
from  Evil Stiletto Heels.

 
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Jo Firey - 19 Oct 2004 21:16 GMT
> Hello again
>
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> I'd like to hear stories from the women in the group who have suffered
> from  Evil Stiletto Heels.

I was given some advice by a physician back in the 1960.  He told be to stop
wearing a girdle and to stop wearing spike heels.  That one would ruin your
abdominal muscles and the other would ruin your back and feet.

Still think both "inventions" were as silly as corsets.  (And neck ties)

Jo
Clarence Crow - 19 Oct 2004 23:35 GMT
><snip>
>I was given some advice by a physician back in the 1960.  He told be to stop
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Jo

Yeah neck ties suck! I gave them up after my Yuppie years, and now
people have to accept me as I am, still neat, but open collar, and
still getting paid LOL.

PS: the Stilettos are BACK!!

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Uv - 20 Oct 2004 01:30 GMT
>><snip>
>>I was given some advice by a physician back in the 1960.  He told be to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> PS: the Stilettos are BACK!!

I wore DAILY, 'heels' that were probably between 3-4 inches. I walked to my
school every day, and never once put on regular flat shoes. I now have
bunions named Paul and Paulette. I was lucky, I have no permanent damage and
require no surgery.

Stiletto's are EVILE!!
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 20 Oct 2004 01:55 GMT
Linda's Mike has it written into his employment contract that he does not
ever have to wear a tie.  Now THAT's determination!  ROFL!!

DeeTee
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>>I was given some advice by a physician back in the 1960.  He told be to
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>
> -- Clarence Crow
Caroline Marold - 20 Oct 2004 04:55 GMT
And some of them are backless and worse are so pointy
you would need to have several toes amputated to wear
them. big old stupid duh
I am resigned to my Birkinstocks. :) But I like them.
Still am able to wear my dance heels. but they are 2"
and wide toe box.
Duckie

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Don Kirkman - 20 Oct 2004 19:34 GMT
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Jo Firey wrote in article
<2tlbcaF21rs10U1@uni-berlin.de>:

>> Hello again

>> First up I'm a straight guy! (m.69.au).
>> I always have liked seeing elegant Ladies in Stiletto Heels and I
>> guess they like the attention they get too.

>> In the late '50s-early '60s, my wife (f.67.au) used to run in 4"
>> Stilettos daily from the Train Station to her work in the CBD in
>> Melbourne. She even had some pairs with 5" heels for clubbing, etc.
>> etc.

>> As times and fashion changed, she went with the styles, but about 10
>> yrs ago, she had to have 2 separate ops on each of her big toes and
>> have a plastic joint inserted. Now she wears nothing higher than 2"
>> heels and they are fairly wide.

>> I'd like to hear stories from the women in the group who have suffered
>> from  Evil Stiletto Heels.

>I was given some advice by a physician back in the 1960.  He told be to stop
>wearing a girdle and to stop wearing spike heels.  That one would ruin your
>abdominal muscles and the other would ruin your back and feet.

>Still think both "inventions" were as silly as corsets.  (And neck ties)

I understand stilettos were invented by a woman who was tired of being
kissed on the forehead.  True?
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Joan Carter - 21 Oct 2004 04:23 GMT
>I understand stilettos were invented by a woman who was tired of being
>kissed on the forehead.  True?

Of course, dear. <kiss, kiss> :-)

---
Joan
Clarence Crow - 22 Oct 2004 22:37 GMT
>>I understand stilettos were invented by a woman who was tired of being
>>kissed on the forehead.  True?
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>---
>Joan
1533
Short-statured Italian bride Catherine d'Medici, married at 14 to the
Duke of Orleans, wears shoes with two-inch heels to exaggerate her
height. The high heel may have been invented by Leonardo da Vinci
(1452-1519).
Before this the Male Courtiers, Fops and Poppinje's wore them LOL.

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Kitty Kelly - 20 Oct 2004 00:25 GMT
No evil stoies for you.  I used to dance and run in them without a
problem.  I have tiny feet, (5 1/2), and tiny short toes the guys at
work called Jimmy Dean sausages LOL!!!

I sustained no damage from them.

-g-

Kitty
Clarence Crow - 20 Oct 2004 02:48 GMT
>No evil stoies for you.  I used to dance and run in them without a
>problem.  I have tiny feet, (5 1/2), and tiny short toes the guys at
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Kitty

Were you a saucy little cheerleader too...the one they threw in the
air?

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Kitty Kelly - 20 Oct 2004 11:42 GMT
Clarence wrote -

~~~Were you a saucy little cheerleader too...the one they threw in the
air?~~~~

Nope.  I was the quarterback!

-vbg-

Kitty
   
Harvey R. Stone - 20 Oct 2004 13:32 GMT
> Clarence wrote -
>
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>
> Kitty

LOLOLOLOLOL uuupppsss made the wife stick her head in to see what was going
on. LOL
Harv
Clarence Crow - 20 Oct 2004 19:33 GMT
> Clarence wrote -
>
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>Kitty
>    
Eeeuuuwww, was it the Hormones?

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Kitty Kelly - 20 Oct 2004 20:48 GMT
~~~~Eeeuuuwww, was it the Hormones?
~~~~Clarence Crow

Nah, I was just giving you a chuckle.  I was on the drill team.  Our
skirts were shorter than the cheerleaders and we wore fluffy gold
panties under them.

-bg-

Kitty  
Uv - 21 Oct 2004 01:45 GMT
> ~~~~Eeeuuuwww, was it the Hormones?
> ~~~~Clarence Crow
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>
> Kitty

drill what?
Kitty Kelly - 21 Oct 2004 02:09 GMT
~~~~drill what?
~~~~~Uv

...hehehehe...


Caroline Marold - 21 Oct 2004 04:38 GMT
Try this Uv. It can be the dance squad or a group that
marches with banners to the football team. And football
does not mean soccer in this case. The cheerleaders
only cheer and don't dance. is this perfectly clear
yet. lol
http://www.danceadts.com/
Duckie

>>~~~~Eeeuuuwww, was it the Hormones?
>>~~~~Clarence Crow
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> drill what?

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Harvey R. Stone - 20 Oct 2004 13:30 GMT
> No evil stoies for you.  I used to dance and run in them without a
> problem.  I have tiny feet, (5 1/2), and tiny short toes the guys at
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>
> Kitty

OKkkk,  but why did you have your shoes off at work that made your toes  the
topic of discussion around the water cooler.   LOLOL
Harv
Kitty Kelly - 20 Oct 2004 14:45 GMT
~~~~OKkkk, but why did you have your shoes off at work that made your
toes the topic of discussion around the water cooler.   LOLOL
~~~~~Harv

i'm one of those people that kicks their shoes off as soon as they hit
the office and runs around in pantyhose until time to go home.  I've
never owned a pair of bedroom slippers because I was always barefoot at
home, too.

-g-

Kitty
Clarence Crow - 20 Oct 2004 19:43 GMT
><snip>
>i'm one of those people that kicks their shoes off as soon as they hit
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Kitty

Seeing I'm from outer Monrovia (d/under), I had to visit the Jimmy
Dean website to get a handle on them, and I have a question for you.

Exactly what are the dimensions of one of those (length x diameter)
and which flavour were you and were you 98% fat-free?

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Kitty Kelly - 20 Oct 2004 21:09 GMT
Clarence wrote -

~~~~Seeing I'm from outer Monrovia (d/under), I had to visit the Jimmy
Dean website to get a handle on them, and I have a question for you.

Exactly what are the dimensions of one of those (length x diameter) and
which flavour were you and were you 98% fat-free?~~~~

Very short and round.  Maple.  90% - gotta have a little to grab hold
of!

ROFL!!!  Dang it you guys - if I wind up having to post a picture of my
feet, my husband is going to think I finally lost it!  BTW, he thinks I
have cute feet.

Just imagine the feet of an 8 year old.  With really cute feet.

-g-

Kitty


Tina Underwood - 21 Oct 2004 00:32 GMT
Could we PLEASE stop talking about feet??? Ewwwwwww!!!!

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Clarence Crow - 21 Oct 2004 02:23 GMT
>Could we PLEASE stop talking about feet??? Ewwwwwww!!!!
>
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Tina

I'll move you to the top of my Dance-Card right after I get out the
other side of my current Prostate situ in abt 6 mths time and who
knows, we may even Cha Cha with my TKR lol.


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Kitty Kelly - 21 Oct 2004 02:36 GMT
KJ wrote -

~~~~Could we PLEASE stop talking about feet??? Ewwwwwww!!!!~~~~

Hey, we were talking about cute feet, not smelly ones!

-bg-

Kitty
Caroline Marold - 21 Oct 2004 04:40 GMT
But Kitty she has this phobia thing...  we can actually
make her puke if we show her arthritis feet.  bwwhhhhaaaaaa
Duckie

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Kitty Kelly - 21 Oct 2004 06:19 GMT
~~~~~But Kitty she has this phobia thing... we can actually make her
puke if we show her arthritis feet. bwwhhhhaaaaaa
~~~~~Duckie

Mine wouldn't bother her.  RA is eating the bones, tendons and ligaments
so fast they don't have time to deform LOL!!!

4 months ago I was transferring from the car into my wheelchair and I
ripped tendons off in my right ankle and foot.  I use a transfer board
because my feet can't touch the ground without the passing out type of
pain.

But that day, in the middle of the transfer, I felt like I was sliding
forward so I put the big toe of my right foot out to balance myself.  I
didn't put any weight on it at all, and only my big toe touched the
ground.

All of a sudden it felt like a giant rubber band snapped and flew from
the dead center back of my ankle and ended up wrapped around the outside
ankle bone.  In 2 hours I had ten bruises down the calf and ankle, the
entire surface of the bottom of my heel was dark purple, and a large
crescent shaped bruise was over the ball joints.

I think it was the domino effect - One let go and several others were
too damaged to hang on and decided to go with it.

-g-

Kitty
d'huit - 21 Oct 2004 06:39 GMT
> ~~~~~But Kitty she has this phobia thing... we can actually make her
> puke if we show her arthritis feet. bwwhhhhaaaaaa
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> I think it was the domino effect - One let go and several others were
> too damaged to hang on and decided to go with it.

major OWIES!  and i thought my tiny achilles tendon tear and bursa
inflamation was an owie.  geesh.  now i feel like a wuss.

kate

> -g-
>
> Kitty
Caroline Marold - 22 Oct 2004 03:53 GMT
I've had a friend with dissolving tendons.  Spent 8
years in various kinds of casts and now has two fused
ankles. But after 10 years is back dancing. Just ask
DonnaG. She got to meet Dolly while at the Boston
Gimpfest.
Danced myself tonight at the preview party wearing my
knee brace to keep from falling on the ground.
People say I look so graceful when the music comes on.
I guess if God decides to take my feet too, I will
live. He started with my hands and is branching out.
But I so love to dance I am hoping he leaves me those
even if everything else is bionic.
Duckie

> Mine wouldn't bother her.  RA is eating the bones, tendons and ligaments
> so fast they don't have time to deform LOL!!!
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> Kitty

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Harvey R. Stone - 22 Oct 2004 11:33 GMT
> I've had a friend with dissolving tendons.  Spent 8 years in various kinds
> of casts and now has two fused ankles. But after 10 years is back dancing.
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> else is bionic.
> Duckie

Please do not blame God for what we have.  I no more could do that than if I
lived in Florida with this years hurricanes.    It will be man that finds
the cures or not for the problems  we face
and we should feel good about all the upbeat things we have read about in
the changes in medicine this year also.   It is your will and heart that
keeps you dancing and if just a small part of that rubs off on people like
me,,,,, I will try to get something done today and enjoy it.
Quack...
Harv
Alex Barna - 22 Oct 2004 19:45 GMT
Hi Harv,

<SNIPPED>  :)

> Please do not blame God for what we have.  I no more could do that than if I
> lived in Florida with this years hurricanes.    It will be man that finds
> the cures or not for the problems  we face

Speaking about finding the why & how of 'what we have', where are you on the
Folding list?

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=7

My computer is folding 24/7/365 to find a new biologic to cure the diseases that
plague all of the human race.

> and we should feel good about all the upbeat things we have read about in
> the changes in medicine this year also.   It is your will and heart that
> keeps you dancing and if just a small part of that rubs off on people like
> me,,,,, I will try to get something done today and enjoy it.

Dito, ^_^

> Quack...
> Harv

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Clarence Crow - 21 Oct 2004 02:29 GMT
><snip>
>Very short and round.  Maple.  90% - gotta have a little to grab hold
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>Kitty
Not allowed to think that stuff.
but I've also been called ARCH villain *wink*

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Kitty Kelly - 21 Oct 2004 03:02 GMT
~~~~Just imagine the feet of an 8 year old. With really cute feet.
~~~~~Kitty
  
~~~~Not allowed to think that stuff.
but I've also been called ARCH villain *wink*
~~~~ Clarence Crow

You're supposed to imagine the feet on ME, Clarence, not an 8 year old
LOL!!!

Just watch my lips - I'll keep you straight!

-vbg-

Kitty  
Clarence Crow - 21 Oct 2004 04:36 GMT
>~~~~Just imagine the feet of an 8 year old. With really cute feet.
>~~~~~Kitty
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>
>Kitty  
I'm ALL over YOU Kit!...Just Lip Synch where you want this to go *S*.

PS: Hubby could be a tad worrisome :-(
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Nann Bell - 20 Oct 2004 06:21 GMT
> I'd like to hear stories from the women in the group who have suffered
> from  Evil Stiletto Heels.

Not me!  never stillettos and never more than 3 inch heels, and those were
jsut for fancy occasions.

i used to work with someone who always wore heels.  I mean ALWAYS.  She had
heels to match every outfit, but usually no more than 2-2.5 inch heels.  Then
she blew out her knee.  Had to have surgery.  Started PT and was in absolute
torture!  Not because of the knee, but because the ligaments were so
shortened up from wearing heels that her calves and ankles were in agony
without them - and she couldn't wear heels yet because of the knee.  Finally
they let her go back into low heels early to ease that pain.

Ran into her a few years later.  She was then looking at a TKR and was in
athletic shoes.  had to give up the heels altogther.

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JLee - 20 Oct 2004 08:27 GMT
> > I'd like to hear stories from the women in the group who have suffered
> > from  Evil Stiletto Heels.

Sigh... I miss my stilettos.  The higher the better.  I could run in them,
dance, jump... no problem.  I actually preferred them to flats.  When I wore
flats I was clumsy and awkward.  Not so with the heels.

I like to think that they played no role at all in my back problems.  um...
yeah... that's it.  none at all.

Janet N.
Clarence Crow - 20 Oct 2004 09:31 GMT
>> > I'd like to hear stories from the women in the group who have suffered
>> > from  Evil Stiletto Heels.
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>
>Janet N.

No pleasure without PAIN! (in another dimension who knows?)

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Sonatabv - 20 Oct 2004 13:55 GMT
I wore 2 inch heels most of my life.  But for about 6 monthes, I wore 3.25 inch
heels to work.  They were gorgeous and I loved them!  My feet hurt and wound up
at the podiatrist.  Since then I've only worn 1-2 inch heels. There's been no
bunion surgery but I have had two others on my right foot.  (and 3.25 is not
really stillettos!)

Vickie B.
d'huit - 20 Oct 2004 19:36 GMT
> Hello again
>
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>
> -- Clarence Crow

i once got turned down in an interview for a grocery clerk job, because i
was too short, by two inches.  you guessed it---borrowed stilettos got me
the job on the second go round.LOL  and i never wore them on the job--what
checker does?!

kate
Clarence Crow - 20 Oct 2004 20:55 GMT
><snip>
>i once got turned down in an interview for a grocery clerk job, because i
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>kate

Was it really your height or the Boss?
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d'huit - 20 Oct 2004 22:41 GMT
>><snip>
>>i once got turned down in an interview for a grocery clerk job, because i
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Was it really your height or the Boss?

actually, the grocery chain had a 5'4" height requirement and i was 5'2",
but i didn't know it before my first interview.  when i finished first in my
checker school class (whoopie ding), they never said a word about my
diminutive 5'4".  musta thought the class shrunk me or something.LOL

kate

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> -- Clarence Crow
Kitty Kelly - 20 Oct 2004 20:59 GMT
~~~~i once got turned down in an interview for a grocery clerk job,
because i was too short, by two inches. you guessed it---borrowed
stilettos got me the job on the second go round.LOL and i never wore
them on the job--what checker does?!
~~~~kate

LOL!!!  I applied at the police academy and was told I was too short by
5 inches and I only weighed 107.  They actually had a weight
requirement, too!. I thought my size was an asset.  What bad guy would
look at me as a threat before I whooped his a.s?

A friend tried to be a stewardess and was told she was too short.  Why
you have to be tall on an airplane makes no sense to me.

-g-

Kitty
d'huit - 20 Oct 2004 22:49 GMT
> ~~~~i once got turned down in an interview for a grocery clerk job,
> because i was too short, by two inches. you guessed it---borrowed
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> requirement, too!. I thought my size was an asset.  What bad guy would
> look at me as a threat before I whooped his a.s?

***ROTFLMAO!  shudda told them that you ARE taller, when you are standing on
top of the bad guy you've just cut down to size; and that you weight a lot
more, when you're carrying your concealed arsenal.<g>

kate

> A friend tried to be a stewardess and was told she was too short.  Why
> you have to be tall on an airplane makes no sense to me.

***i agree.  that's goofy, because being short is an advantage on an
airplane, in many ways.  did you know that jet fighter pilots and
astronauts, at one time, had a height limitation of 5'5"?

> -g-
>
> Kitty
 
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