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firechief - 19 Oct 2004 06:47 GMT Free Firefox beats tired Explorer in browser war
By Phillip Robinson October 18, 2004
Firefox is a better Web browser program than Internet Explorer.
It's a better way to use the Net. It's safer, immune to many of the viruses and hacks that target the flawed IE. Just last week, Microsoft released more patches for IE after new vulnerabilities were discovered. Firefox is faster, putting Web pages up in less time. It's easier, with inventions like "tabbed" browsing that use your on-screen windows more efficiently. It's more flexible, with lots of special "extensions" being created by programmers all over the world. This is possible because Firefox is an "open source" program anyone can open up and tinker with. IE is only open to programmers at Microsoft. And it's getting better all the time ? again, because it's open-source, so lots of people are busy trying to improve it. Since Microsoft crushed Netscape, the first leading browser company, several years ago, there's been very little innovation or even bug-fixing for IE. Plus Firefox, with all of its innovations and improvements, is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X. There are even "unofficial" versions for OS/2, BeOS and other lesser-known computer systems. IE is only for Windows, and any improved future versions will only be for the latest version of Windows. Oh, and Firefox is free ? entirely, completely free, with no strings attached. Are there any drawbacks to Firefox? Sure ? one. There are some Web sites that don't work with Firefox. Not many, but a few. And for that, you should keep your copy of Internet Explorer. Besides, it's nearly impossible to erase IE from your hard drive. Microsoft doesn't like to be told "No." But for all the rest of your Web work, you should use Firefox, if only for the added security. Here's how to get it for Windows. The Mac operation is similar. Connect to the Internet and use your current browser, IE or whatever, to go to http://www.mozilla.org. Firefox is made by the Mozilla organization, which also makes the more complicated Mozilla browser. Got the Mozilla site on your screen? What's there changes from time to time, but currently it's showing "Firefox Preview Release." Don't worry about that "preview" word. This is ready to use. You should see a "Free Download" area in green just below, with an arrow pointing down. Click on the underlined words "Free Download." The page will change to "Now Downloading" version. Wait 10 to 20 seconds and you should see a dialogue box pop up asking where you want to save the Firefox software. (If you wait a minute and don't see the dialogue box for saving, click on the blue, underlined words "Try This Link" for jump-starting the download.) Choose any directory for saving your Firefox, though something in My Documents is probably best, and remember what you choose. Then click on Save. (If you see a dialogue box that warns "Some files can harm your computer," it just means your Windows is pretty up-to-date. Ignore it this time because Firefox doesn't have any spyware, viruses or other dangers.) Now you have to wait for the Firefox program to copy onto your hard drive. With my dial-up connection, this took about 40 minutes. A slow dial-up might take more than an hour. A broadband connection can do it in a few seconds or minutes. Broadband, such as cable or DSL, doesn't make e-mail or many Web-surfing tasks much faster than dial-up, but it is sure a lot faster for downloading programs, songs or videos. Now close your browser. Use your Windows Explorer program, or double-click on My Computer, and find the directory where you saved Firefox. It will have an icon that looks like a little box with a CD standing in front of it and be called something like "Firefox Setup 1.0PR." Double-click on this icon. A "Welcome to Mozilla Firefox" dialogue box should appear. Click on Next. The License Agreement will appear. Generally it's a good idea to actually read through these because it's where some spyware programs hide their "we're going to be stealing your information and you agree to it" legalese. Just click the "I accept" radio button and then click Next. Leave the "Standard" button click in Setup Type and click on Next. Click on "Next" again in the Summary dialogue box. Now you'll see the program installing ? moving bits from the one big file you downloaded to all the places they need to be on your hard drive. This will take only a few minutes. The "Install Complete" dialogue box will tell you that you're ready. Leave the little "Launch Mozilla Firefox now" check box with a check. Just click on Finish. Firefox will appear, showing your regular home page. And anytime you want to use the Web, just make sure your Internet connection is on and choose Firefox from the Start button or from the icon that's installed on your Windows screen. But Firefox has other advantages that make it both easier to use than IE and more powerful. Extensions are a key reason Firefox is more powerful than IE. These are little programs that can add to Firefox's abilities. There are lots and lots of them, most entirely free for you to download and use, because Firefox is an open-source program. To see what Extensions can do for you, go to Firefox's Tools menu and choose "Extensions." A little Extensions window will appear. This will list any extensions that are already installed on your copy of Firefox. As you'll see at the bottom of the little window, there are buttons to Uninstall, Update or change the Options for any extension. (Just click on the Extension you want to fiddle with, and then click on any one of these buttons.) There's also a "Get More Extensions" link at the bottom of the window. Click on this and a full-size browser window will appear for the Web site "update.mozilla.org/extensions." And here you'll see extensions collected by categories ? such as Blogging, Bookmarks, Chat, Games, and so on. There are also Top-5 lists for the extensions most popular, highest-rated (by users like you) and most recent. 'Adblock' With more and more advertising online, maybe it won't surprise you that an extension called "Adblock" is the most popular, and by a landslide vote. Click on Adblock in the Top-5 list and you'll see a page that describes the extension, including: what it does, how long it takes to download, where to go for help with it and comments by people who have already tried it. In just 12 seconds or so, you could download this little gem and then be equipped to simply right-click on any Web page ad you want to block in the future. That could clean up your computer screen, calm your Internet experience and speed your Web browsing (ads are sometimes the most complex and slowest-downloading parts of a Web page). Don't do it. Not that I'm against ad-blocking. But before you use any new software ? from unknown extensions to the latest "update" from Microsoft ? you should first back up all of your disk information and read about other people's experiences with the software. Does it conflict with something you already have? Is it tough to uninstall if you run into problems? With Extensions, you'll get plenty of blunt advice right there in the comments. Other extensions If and when you decide that an extension is for you, just click on the "Install Now" line and then on the "Install Now" button of the warning box that pops up. This warning is part of Firefox security, making sure you know you're installing new software, so that Web pages can't sneak new and potentially malicious stuff onto your computer. Soon you should be back to that Extensions window you opened from the Tools menu. And Adblock ? or whatever other extension you just installed ? has joined the list. Click on the little "X" box at the top right of this window to close it, then quit and restart Firefox to make Adblock active. Back in Firefox? You can see how to use Adblock, and change its settings, by opening Tools, Extensions again, or by using the new Adblock line added to the Tools menu. Open a Web page with ads, then position the mouse over an ad and click the right mouse button. At the bottom of the menu that appears will be "Adblock Image." If you choose this, a line will appear asking if you want to "OK" blocking this one image, or if you want to put an ** anywhere into that blocking filter. The asterisk is a "wild card" in many computing tasks, which means "do this for any letter or character that appears here." In other words, if the ad image you're about to block is named "4.jpg" and you substitute an * for the 4, you'll be blocking all images numbered 0 through 9 from this site.
Angus MacBagpipes. - 19 Oct 2004 06:55 GMT There's a biased report if I ever saw one.
I've been using both IE6 & Firefox for a while now & don't really have a preference between the two. There are things I like about IE & things I like about Firefox. I probably use IE more but only because I like the way the google toolbar sits with it. There are no more things 'flawed' with IE than Firefox in my opinion. ......I don't find firefox any faster either or I'd definitely be using it. .......I'm a dial up retard. :o(
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> Free Firefox beats tired Explorer in browser war > > By Phillip Robinson > October 18, 2004 Mike-UK - 19 Oct 2004 11:02 GMT > There's a biased report if I ever saw one. And you'd know this, and why, of course, perchance?
> I've been using both IE6 & Firefox for a while now & > don't really have a preference between the two. There are > things I like about IE & things I like about Firefox. I > probably use IE more but only because I like the way the > google toolbar sits with it. There are no more things > 'flawed' with IE than Firefox in my opinion. And there goes the last of your credibility.
Try running it on Linux and see those virii vanish.
Click here. Nothing will happen, but it will keep you amused for a while. :D
P.S. This post should be considered a well humoured invitation to indulge in pointless bickering about prefered browsers/OSs etc. Treating it as serious enough to warrant irritation could indicate you need more medication. I know I do this morning. :\
Arthur Rytis IS GUILTY!
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Angus MacBagpipes. - 19 Oct 2004 17:39 GMT Hi Mike, It's too early to get into debate about them , I've had no coffee yet so for the moment I'll tell you an old Scottish proverb ...... away & boil yer heed!
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>> There's a biased report if I ever saw one. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Arthur Rytis IS GUILTY! Mike-UK - 20 Oct 2004 01:35 GMT > Hi Mike, > > It's too early to get into debate about them , > I've had no coffee yet so for the moment I'll > tell you an old Scottish proverb ...... away & > boil yer heed! Ah, coffee. Understand completely old chap. Over...
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Angus MacBagpipes. - 21 Oct 2004 01:24 GMT Okay I'm back!
It's a biased report because it's slanted against IE. Firefox too, has had security updates but never is it called 'the flawed' browser. If it were as popular as IE there would be more bad guys out there writing viruses for it. Now don't get me wrong, I don't mind Firefox it's so similar to IE that I often have to look twice to see which I'm looking at. The google toolbar doesn't work with it though. .......oh, & it's only a beta unless they released a newer version within the last day or two. .....oh & it doesn't open websites any quicker than IE, I should know, I'm a dial up retard. ........oh, & it takes longer to start up than IE.
You know, I'm really starting to hate that flawed firefox ....
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>> There's a biased report if I ever saw one. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> don't really have a preference between the two. There are >> things I like about IE & things I like about Firefox. I Nell - 21 Oct 2004 20:02 GMT > Okay I'm back! > > It's a biased report because it's slanted against IE. Firefox too, has had security updates but never is it called 'the flawed' browser. If it were as popular as IE there would be more bad guys out there writing viruses for it. > Now don't get me wrong, I don't mind Firefox it's so similar to IE that I often have to look twice to see which I'm looking at. The google toolbar doesn't work with it though. .......oh, & it's only a beta unless they released a newer version within the last day or two. .....oh & it doesn't open websites any quicker than IE, I should know, I'm a dial up retard. ........oh, & it takes longer to start up than IE. > > You know, I'm really starting to hate that flawed firefox .... I have Firefox in addition to IE but also have, and use, Opera. The free version has a small had in the upper right hand corner (similar to the free version of Incredimail) but is my perferred browser. It doesn't look like IE or Firefox (well, resembles Firefox in that it opens in tabs). You can download skins to lessen even the more the resemblance. :)
Mike-UK - 21 Oct 2004 22:25 GMT CAUTION! Mike's reply contains humourous jibes.
Continue at your own risk! :)
> Okay I'm back! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > would be more bad guys out there writing > viruses for it. To coin an old adage. BOLLOCKS! This is old dross FUD. "If ABC were as popular it would get the same attention". The reason M$ gets blasted so often is because it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to secure a system where everything can be accessed by everyone and everything. Windows itself is fundamentally flawed and only got as far as it has by means of bloated patching and a bank of spin-doctors spreading the "If XYZ was as popular..." etc. rubbish.
There's a REASON M$/IBM etc. use BSD/Linux sytems online y'know, apart from them being free that is. ;\
The reason Winblows is "popular" is because it comes already installed (due to some pretty shady marketing methods, try asking to buy a laptop with Linux or FreeBSD installed instead!) and most people are too scared of their hardware to ever consider doing anything with it, like trying a different OS etc. Hell! Most folks will still be running with the original install from the 1st time they got it plugged in at home! (Plus all the "fixes", patches, HUGE temp file folder, and so on ... ;)
The ONLY way you will EVER stand a chance of securing your PC is to WIPE Windblows off your HDD and install something, ANYTHING, that has FILE PERMISSIONS as part of it's file system. (Either that, or rip out your modem. ;)
...And that ain't Windows, ok?
> Now don't get me wrong, I don't > mind Firefox it's so similar to IE NO IT ISN'T! It may LOOK similar...
> that I often > have to look twice to see which I'm looking at. > The google toolbar doesn't work with it though. Thats because it ISN'T IE.
> .......oh, & it's only a beta unless they > released a newer version within the last day or > two. ALL GNU/OSF/ETC. software is in PERMANENT BETA condition as it is under constant development, unlike the "Oops! We' can't ignore the holes any longer, better get a patch out or something..." money machine that pretends to produce a serious OS... (Bitchy? Moi? ;)
When developers port something over to work on the Windblows OS, because M$ is a CLOSED SYSTEM and NOBODY KNOWS what goes on inside it (alledgedly ;), getting a program to work all the time just right when you DON'T KNOW what it is installed on, means you'd better call it BETA rather than "Version XYZ!"
In short, the BETA means that if it folds, its because someone nice decided to mangle it so it would work on your Windups OS, and didn't guess every secret twist and patch M$ have injected into the HUGE amount of redundant and plain old disfunctional code that takes up SO MUCH HDD space.
> .....oh & it doesn't open websites any > quicker than IE, I should know, I'm a dial up > retard. ........oh, & it takes longer to start > up than IE. Now WHY do you suppose THAT is? A few dots could be joined up to point out that a Windups browser that made IE look crap might NOT be a good thing for M$ maybe? Ever wondered why the Lotus office suite used to crash out so often?
Come on, you can join THESE dots? ;)
Try Opera. It doesn't rely on the OS as much, and as a result, works better and faster.
> You know, I'm really starting to hate that flawed firefox .... Gotta admit, I've never been a fan...
Tried Lynx yet? :)
P.S. What IS it you do to your posts? They're all OVER the place!
Oh yeah, I checked your headers, OE huh? (Chortle)
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Angus MacBagpipes. - 21 Oct 2004 23:50 GMT There's a biased report if I ever saw one.
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> CAUTION! Mike's reply contains humourous jibes. > > Continue at your own risk! :) > >> Mike-UK - 22 Oct 2004 22:02 GMT > There's a biased report if I ever saw one. Peoinggggg! Pwheeeeeeeeeeee! Clonk!
Too much guff huh? ;)
Be well.
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