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RoseB - 17 Oct 2004 17:15 GMT
I thought it was raining this morning until I had a better look. Snow.
I am not impressed. Janet N. left this morning for her long trip
home- she will be travelling for at least 8 hours through potentially
ugly driving conditions.

And we were having such a beautiful fall.
This won't stick; it will be gone in a few hours. It is early for the
first snowfall for this area though. My sister still has roses
blooming, and new buds popping out. I still have my geranium pots out.
Grrr.
rose
Nann Bell - 17 Oct 2004 18:38 GMT
We were just a couple of degrees away from snow last night.  Talked to
someone this morning who fully expected to see some on the ground when she
got up to walk her dogs.

I think the high winds we've been having saved us from getting quite cold
enough for the rain to turn frozen.  Still, it's too close to that stuff for
October 17th in my mind!

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RoseB - 17 Oct 2004 19:15 GMT
>We were just a couple of degrees away from snow last night.  Talked to
>someone this morning who fully expected to see some on the ground when she
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>enough for the rain to turn frozen.  Still, it's too close to that stuff for
>October 17th in my mind!

I agree. I feel really chilled inside now from the dampness. I hope
the roads are not too bad for poor Janet and company who will be
travelling all day.

rose
JLee - 18 Oct 2004 05:24 GMT
We made it, Rose!  Took us 13 hours, but we're home.

The roads cleared up quickly... we avoided the Coquihalla and took the old
Merritt highway to Kamloops.  Clean and clear until Jasper, then all hell
broke loose.  The first blizzard went all the way to Hinton, and was at its
worst through the Obed Summitt (I believe highest highway point in the
rockies).  It started up again at Edson, and that's when the fun started.
Our driver was getting stressed and had some snow-hypnosis, and there was no
place to pull over.  Besides, we were following the tail lights of a truck
in front of use and if we lost sight of him we wouldn't know where the road
was.  When we finally got close to the city and its lights, the bad weather
just stopped.  Figures.  I was never so happy to see traffic.

I really had a wonderful time, Rose.  You're new house is lovely (I feel so
honored to be the first to view it).  The weekend was declared a success,
and everyone is making plans to be at Mountain Trials in the spring.  Not
sure yet if I will be going, but time will tell.

Oh... please apologize to your poor cat for me... I know I look awful in the
morning, but I didn't mean to scare him!  LOL.

Janet N.

> >We were just a couple of degrees away from snow last night.  Talked to
> >someone this morning who fully expected to see some on the ground when she
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> rose
RoseB - 18 Oct 2004 06:14 GMT
Thanks for all the nice compliments.

I am glad you did not have snow all the way. I know the Coq can be
miserable.

As for Milo, he  was just protecting hearth and home. LOL
Rose
Angus MacBagpipes. - 17 Oct 2004 19:30 GMT
    You're in BC Rose?  Where abouts?  .......hopefully way up north somewhere, I'm in the Kootenays.
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>I thought it was raining this morning until I had a better look. Snow.
> I am not impressed. Janet
RoseB - 17 Oct 2004 19:40 GMT
>     You're in BC Rose?  Where abouts?  .......hopefully way up north somewhere, I'm in the Kootenays.
No my dear fellow.Southern Interior. Merritt, in fact, where we had 40
degree temps for most of the summer.
And I heard via the grapevine that you were getting the snow too.
(from a friend that just moved back from Grand Forks.)
Do you mean that you are not?
I bet it is coming.
Sorry.
LOL
rose
Angus MacBagpipes. - 17 Oct 2004 19:49 GMT
    Oh dear, that aint good, I was kinda hoping you'd say Prince George or Dawson Creek!

        We don't have any snow yet but don't usually even when all around us is white. I live just outside Creston.  
    Just looked at the forecast & it's rain rain rain all the way 'til Thursday.  Not nice but we've had so little that I guess the ground needs it.
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>>     You're in BC Rose?  Where abouts?  .......hopefully way up north somewhere, I'm in the Kootenays.
> No my dear fellow.Southern Interior. Merritt, in fact, where we had 40
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> LOL
> rose
RoseB - 17 Oct 2004 21:03 GMT
>     Oh dear, that aint good, I was kinda hoping you'd say Prince George or Dawson Creek!
>
>         We don't have any snow yet but don't usually even when all around us is white. I live just outside Creston.  
>     Just looked at the forecast & it's rain rain rain all the way 'til Thursday.  Not nice but we've had so little that I guess the ground needs it.
Yes, that is the forecast for here as well. The weather channel
website had us having rain, but it was the white kind.
My uncle used to live in Creston, but I have never been that way.
rose
Angus MacBagpipes. - 18 Oct 2004 01:45 GMT
      Creston is a beautiful place but I don't want to live here anymore.   I'd much prefer to live nearer the coast, Vancouver Island would be the place for me!

        What's the scoop on having RA & moving from a dry climate to a wet one?  ....is it always bad news?
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> My uncle used to live in Creston, but I have never been that way.
> rose
Angus MacBagpipes. - 18 Oct 2004 01:47 GMT
 P.S.    I've only lived here for about 8 years, doubt if I'd know yer Uncle.
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> My uncle used to live in Creston, but I have never been that way.
> rose
RoseB - 19 Oct 2004 06:04 GMT
>  P.S.    I've only lived here for about 8 years, doubt if I'd know yer Uncle.
Probably not, unless you play pool (billiards), Even in his 80s he was
quite a poolshark.
If your driving by on theCoq, stop by and say hi; I always like to
meet new people from the group.
Rose
Angus MacBagpipes. - 19 Oct 2004 06:24 GMT
   Thanks Rose, I'll keep that in mind!
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>>  P.S.    I've only lived here for about 8 years, doubt if I'd know yer Uncle.
> Probably not, unless you play pool (billiards), Even in his 80s he was
> quite a poolshark.
> If your driving by on theCoq, stop by and say hi; I always like to
> meet new people from the group.
> Rose
RoseB - 18 Oct 2004 02:50 GMT
>       Creston is a beautiful place but I don't want to live here anymore.   I'd much prefer to live nearer the coast, Vancouver Island would be the place for me!
>
>         What's the scoop on having RA & moving from a dry climate to a wet one?  ....is it always bad news?
I do think that the body adjusts.
R
Kelly - 18 Oct 2004 22:53 GMT
Nah it is not always bad news!  Dry would be better maybe but I find the
major consideration is being happy, having the RA under control sort of and
having a good support system which includes a good RD.  I am in Victoria and
we get rain.  Am I worse when it rains - maybe when I tense up.

Kelly

      Creston is a beautiful place but I don't want to live here anymore.
I'd much prefer to live nearer the coast, Vancouver Island would be the
place for me!

        What's the scoop on having RA & moving from a dry climate to a wet
one?  ....is it always bad news?
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> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:49:17 -0700, "Angus MacBagpipes."
> <abuse@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> My uncle used to live in Creston, but I have never been that way.
> rose
Angus MacBagpipes. - 18 Oct 2004 23:07 GMT
   Hi Kelly,
      Ace place Victoria!
        Don't think I'd like to live in the city though, maybe somewhere farther north. Campbell River's nice.

         Thanks,
            George.

> Nah it is not always bad news!  Dry would be better maybe but I find the
> major consideration is being happy, having the RA under control sort of and
> having a good support system which includes a good RD.  I am in Victoria and
> we get rain.  Am I worse when it rains - maybe when I tense up.
>
> Kelly
Kelly Cobb - 19 Oct 2004 01:46 GMT
   Hi Kelly,
      Ace place Victoria!
        Don't think I'd like to live in the city though, maybe somewhere
farther north. Campbell River's nice.

         Thanks,
            George.

I *love* Victoria...we try and get up there at least once a year. My FIL
lives near Campbell River, in Merville...we were just there this summer...so
pretty!

Kelly C.;o)
Kelly - 19 Oct 2004 05:32 GMT
We are actually in North Saanich in the "country" sort of.  We have a
vinyard kitty corner to our lot, an organic farm across the street, 2 large
horse farms down the block and several sheep farms nearby.  We are 5 minutes
to the ferrry, 5 minutes to Sidney which is a small town and 30 minutes to
Victoria.  Just perfect for us.  I like Campbell River but it is becoming
large too - it is becoming a service centre for the north.  House prices are
still low though which is a bonus - Victoria is through the roof! Merville -
where Kelly is talking about is lovely.  I do like that area.

Kelly in BC

   Hi Kelly,
      Ace place Victoria!
        Don't think I'd like to live in the city though, maybe somewhere
farther north. Campbell River's nice.

         Thanks,
            George.

> Nah it is not always bad news!  Dry would be better maybe but I find the
> major consideration is being happy, having the RA under control sort of
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> Kelly
Angus MacBagpipes. - 19 Oct 2004 06:28 GMT
    Sounds nice Kelly.
      Just the kind of place I'd like to live to be honest!

         How many people from BC post here, it seems that every second one!  
            ........does BC have a high percentage of arthritis sufferers or just a high percentage of computer users?
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> We are actually in North Saanich in the "country" sort of.  We have a
> vinyard kitty corner to our lot, an organic farm across the street, 2 large
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> Kelly in BC
Kelly - 19 Oct 2004 12:33 GMT
I think just a high percentage of computer users.  Really not a lot of us in
the scheme of things.

Kelly

    Sounds nice Kelly.
      Just the kind of place I'd like to live to be honest!

         How many people from BC post here, it seems that every second one!
            ........does BC have a high percentage of arthritis sufferers
or just a high percentage of computer users?
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> We are actually in North Saanich in the "country" sort of.  We have a
> vinyard kitty corner to our lot, an organic farm across the street, 2
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> Kelly in BC
Shirlawn - 19 Oct 2004 23:58 GMT
I just want to tell all you Canada friends how much I enjoy reading your posts
to each other about where you live, trips, the weather, ect.  I have an old
highway map of Alberta and British Columba spread out on my computer table.  I
have found the towns you mention except North Saanich.  What is the Cog?  I
found it, but what is it?

And I thank Canada for Canola Harvest margarine.  It is the best tasting
margarine I have ever had and i have used it for years.  And the comic strip
For Better Or For Worse by Lynn Johnston.  How I love that, it is so true, so
true.

Stay warm,  Shirlawn
Kelly - 20 Oct 2004 01:38 GMT
North Saanich is a municipality beside Sidney.  We are bedroom communities I
suppose of Victoria.  The ferry from Vancouver comes in here.

Lynn Johnston is good.  She is the first thing I wake up to in the morning.
Her comics are very true to life.

Kelly

>I just want to tell all you Canada friends how much I enjoy reading your
>posts
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> Stay warm,  Shirlawn
RoseB - 20 Oct 2004 05:54 GMT
>.  What is the Cog?  I
>found it, but what is it?

I am thinking you mean the Coq; aka the Coquihalla highway. it
converges in Merritt where I live. There are three phases but each is
at a high altitude and may therefore be snow covered for many month of
the year. It is like the littel girl with hte curl- when it is good it
is fantastic- but in bad weather it is horrid.
Rose
Rebecca Ford - 19 Oct 2004 20:49 GMT
I lived in Washington state when the RA kicked in so I can't "Blame Canada",
although I am amazed at the number of people in my fairly small but active
town have RA.

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    Sounds nice Kelly.
      Just the kind of place I'd like to live to be honest!

         How many people from BC post here, it seems that every second one!
            ........does BC have a high percentage of arthritis sufferers
or just a high percentage of computer users?
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> We are actually in North Saanich in the "country" sort of.  We have a
> vinyard kitty corner to our lot, an organic farm across the street, 2
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> Kelly in BC
Nann Bell - 19 Oct 2004 14:33 GMT
> We are actually in North Saanich in the "country" sort of.  We have a
> vinyard kitty corner to our lot, an organic farm across the street, 2 large
> horse farms down the block and several sheep farms nearby.  We are 5 minutes
> to the ferrry, 5 minutes to Sidney which is a small town and 30 minutes to
> Victoria.  

That sounds like heaven!  I can't imagine my husband if we lived kitty ocrner
to a vinyard  <bg>

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Nann Bell - 19 Oct 2004 14:33 GMT
>          What's the scoop on having RA & moving from a dry climate to a wet
> one?  ....is it always bad news?

I was just realizing that I have never lived in a dry climate!  Well, briefly
in a drier climate when I went to school in Ft Worth, Texas.  The first signs
of arthritis that I had for years continued out there, no change. The
barometer seems to be the real problem, weather-wise, for me.

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Angus MacBagpipes. - 19 Oct 2004 17:26 GMT
    Hey that's a thought, I lived in a wet climate all my life until I moved here about 8 years ago & started to show the signs of RA.
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>>          What's the scoop on having RA & moving from a dry climate to a wet
>> one?  ....is it always bad news?
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> of arthritis that I had for years continued out there, no change. The
> barometer seems to be the real problem, weather-wise, for me.
JLee - 18 Oct 2004 05:37 GMT
Lucky guy... so far.  lol.  The worst winter storm I ever encountered was
near Creston, about 15 years ago.  Hadn't seen my family in  a couple of
years, but instead of a hug when I arrived all they got was a rather shaky
request for brandy.

Hope the snow misses you this time around,

Janet N (born in Nelson)

        We don't have any snow yet but don't usually even when all around
us is white. I live just outside Creston.
    Just looked at the forecast & it's rain rain rain all the way 'til
Thursday.  Not nice but we've had so little that I guess the ground needs
it.
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Angus MacBagpipes. - 18 Oct 2004 19:20 GMT
    Hey, we go to Nelson quite often.
        The best Resaurant in the world is in Nelson,  Leo's.
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> Lucky guy... so far.  lol.  The worst winter storm I ever encountered was
> near Creston, about 15 years ago.  Hadn't seen my family in  a couple of
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> Janet N (born in Nelson)
JLee - 18 Oct 2004 23:09 GMT
    Hey, we go to Nelson quite often.
        The best Resaurant in the world is in Nelson,  Leo's.
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I'm afraid I haven't been back for a while.  Last time I was there, we went
to a restaurant that was supposed to be really good, but don't remember the
name... it was busy and we didn't get in.  I really have to go back sometime
soon.  I love that town, and Ainsworth is my favorite hot springs (or is it
just fond childhood memories?).

Janet N.

Angus MacBagpipes. - 18 Oct 2004 23:14 GMT
     Never been to Ainsworth but I reckon it's good, that's what I hear anyhoo.

         Nelson is a great place to people watch, there are lots of weirdo's there that's for sure!   :o)
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Alix M. Hall - 18 Oct 2004 13:03 GMT
I do not believe in snow.  After 14 years in New England, I have to say that
Florida winters are more my cup of tea.  I firmly do not believe in snow.
IT is against my religion.  I can deal with hurricanes as it is the price
you pay to live in paradise, but NO SNOW please....Alix
Nann Bell - 18 Oct 2004 14:49 GMT
> I do not believe in snow.  After 14 years in New England, I have to say that
> Florida winters are more my cup of tea.  I firmly do not believe in snow.
> IT is against my religion.  I can deal with hurricanes as it is the price
> you pay to live in paradise, but NO SNOW please....Alix

LOL, but you do get those summers............  

All these Michiganders were so concerned about me going to Florida with all
these hurricanes coming through.  I kept telling them I'm a native and
hurricanes are just normal.  Not usually this many in one year, but still
normal.

I was suprised how quickly I adjusted to a Florida September without a/c,
though I have to admit to hitting the ice pretty hard.  And I am so glad I
wasn't doing that in july...........

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Alix M. Hall - 18 Oct 2004 15:25 GMT
"Nann Bell" <hanbellGOGATORS@earthlink.net> wrote in message >
> LOL, but you do get those summers............

Summer--lazy days in the pool with iced tea and a floating book
rack--beautiful flowers--gimping along the beach at sunset--ice cream tastes
really good when it is warm outside--blue skies, fluffy white
clouds--well--you get it--I love it here even in the summer--

Alix
Nann Bell - 19 Oct 2004 05:15 GMT
> Summer--lazy days in the pool with iced tea and a floating book
> rack--beautiful flowers--gimping along the beach at sunset--ice cream tastes
> really good when it is warm outside--blue skies, fluffy white
> clouds--well--you get it--I love it here even in the summer--
>
> Alix

ah, I just don't seem to do heat as well these days but the real problem is I
don't do humidity at all well.  don't know if it's the diseases or the meds,
but it does me in these days.  Maybe I've just become a heat and humidity
wimp in my 4 years up north.

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Janet R - 18 Oct 2004 15:47 GMT
amen, amen, amen.   I lived in Tenn/Kentucky with my first husband in
the military.  Worst winter they ever had...ice storms followed by
snow!  No electric for a week....that's not my cup of tea either.

I live in Texas and gonna die in Texas....humidity, heat, mosquitoes
and all!  I will take a 106 degree August over 10 degrees with snow
and ice any day.

Janet R
|I do not believe in snow.  After 14 years in New England, I have to say that
| Florida winters are more my cup of tea.  I firmly do not believe in snow.
| IT is against my religion.  I can deal with hurricanes as it is the price
| you pay to live in paradise, but NO SNOW please....Alix
JLee - 18 Oct 2004 17:16 GMT
There was a time (more than a few years ago) when I would have agreed with
you wholeheartedly.  Now, for some reason, this old body hates the extreme
heat.

I hate climbing through snowbanks to plug the car in, and I hate shovelling
the snow off it in the morning.  But as long as there is no real wind,
even -30C is bearable.  Not pleasant, but bearable.  It is the wind that
really sucks.

I guess the cold is our tradeoff for living in a relatively safe climate.
We watch the skies for funnel clouds in the summer, but rarely does anything
touch down near the city.  Even our winters can be sunny and mild at times.
I can live with it.

I'd love to spend time in warmer areas... but don't think I could live there
full time.  Funny how we all adapt, isn't it?

Janet N.

> I live in Texas and gonna die in Texas....humidity, heat, mosquitoes
> and all!  I will take a 106 degree August over 10 degrees with snow
> and ice any day.
Kelly - 18 Oct 2004 22:50 GMT
Thank goodness I went through last week.  It was wonderful then.  I didn't
stop Rose - was bad timing both coming and going and I was in major pain!
Too much of everything.  Things are finally settling down now.

I have marked everything read as of this morning.  My computer gave up the
ghost 2 weeks ago and i only just got my new one.  2 weeks with no addresses
or email is painful!

Will start fresh today.

Kelly
JLee - 18 Oct 2004 23:10 GMT
> Thank goodness I went through last week.  It was wonderful then.  I didn't
> stop Rose - was bad timing both coming and going and I was in major pain!
> Too much of everything.  Things are finally settling down now.

I'm glad you missed the bad weather, Kelly, but it would have been fun if
we'd been there at the same time.  I'd have loved to meet you.

Janet N.
Kelly - 19 Oct 2004 01:35 GMT
It would have been fun.  One of these days.  This time I drove my sister in
law home to Penticton on the monday after Thanksgiving and home on the
Wednesday.  I was in such a bad mood I wouldn't have been good company
anyhow. By the Wednesday I was sore and miserable and just wanted to get
home to bed and painkillers. Glad you made it home safe Janet.

Kelly

>> Thank goodness I went through last week.  It was wonderful then.  I
>> didn't
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> Janet N.
JLee - 19 Oct 2004 05:46 GMT
> It would have been fun.  One of these days.  This time I drove my sister in
> law home to Penticton on the monday after Thanksgiving and home on the
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>
> Kelly

I'm sorry to hear the trip was so rough on you.  Hope you are feeling
better.

Janet N.
Kelly - 19 Oct 2004 12:34 GMT
I am - it was too much familyitis combined with 2 weeks of superlady
combined with a flare. Not a good combination!

>> It would have been fun.  One of these days.  This time I drove my sister
> in
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>
> Janet N.
JLee - 19 Oct 2004 14:32 GMT
> I am - it was too much familyitis combined with 2 weeks of superlady
> combined with a flare. Not a good combination!

LOL... that familyitis can be a real tough one.  Gave up on the superlady
myself, so hats off to you.  Glad things have calmed down.

Finally quit snowing here... yesterday was our civic election, and there was
a road advisory out recommending that people stay home.  Nice timing.

Janet N.
RoseB - 19 Oct 2004 01:42 GMT
>I'm glad you missed the bad weather, Kelly, but it would have been fun if
>we'd been there at the same time.  I'd have loved to meet you.
>
>Janet N.

She is one of the nicest people you could meet. You would have enjoyed
it.
Rose
RoseB - 19 Oct 2004 01:42 GMT
>Thank goodness I went through last week.  It was wonderful then.
It was wonderful Friday morning and then progressively went downhill.
Sorry you were too rushed and in pain to stop. I had hoped you would!
Next time maybe.
Rose
firechief - 19 Oct 2004 04:48 GMT
> I thought it was raining this morning until I had a better look. Snow.

Friday, this area tied the record for the number of consecutive
days without rain.

Saturday, the record was broken.

Sunday morning, it rained.  Sunday evening it rained.
Luckily the morning downpours occurred between trips to and
from church.  The evening squalls were between trips to and
from a square dance association meeting.

Monday morning, afternoon and evening it rained.

Some back country areas damaged in last October's Cedar
Fire now have mud slides because there is no vegetation to
hold the rain and earth.
Jo Firey - 19 Oct 2004 22:11 GMT
>> I thought it was raining this morning until I had a better look. Snow.
>
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> Fire now have mud slides because there is no vegetation to
> hold the rain and earth.

The rain seems strange after so long dry doesn't it?  We just broke our
summer drought and while this would be a nice day a lot of places, I'm just
not used to the wet yet.

Supposed true story after one long rainless spell Marin County.  Mom and
children get up and start to get ready for drive to school when youngest
child comes to his mother all upset that he is going to miss school.  He
honestly didn't know the car could go out in the rain.

Jo
firechief - 30 Oct 2004 01:27 GMT
Joe wrote:

>> Saturday, the record was broken.
>> Sunday morning, it rained.  Sunday evening it rained.
>> Monday morning, afternoon and evening it rained.

And Jo Firey replied:

> The rain seems strange after so long dry doesn't it?  We just
> broke our summer drought and while this would be a nice day
> a lot of places, I'm just not used to the wet yet.

It's over!  The rain has stopped!

5 inches over normal, and nearly a year's worth in 10 days.  <g>
Val in Boise - 30 Oct 2004 02:33 GMT
It's not the rain that is uncomfortable.  It's the clothes.

Val in Boise

| Joe wrote:
|
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| 5 inches over normal, and nearly a year's worth in 10 days.  <g>
 
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