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Laura@Shawn - 19 Sep 2004 03:56 GMT Anyone with this disease out there? I would be interested in hearing from you, condition,medication etc.. I am 30 and I have had a hip replacement 2 years ago. I still have pain in the replaced hip. Is there hope out there for pain free days??
I would love to get some feedback.
Thanks to all.
S.
Char - 19 Sep 2004 11:52 GMT Hello S-We have several people with AS and several people with other spondylarthrapies, myself included (psoriatic arthritis). But I dont have any answers for you. But there will be folks along who CAN answer questions for you. Char
"Remember, I'm pulling for ya'. We're all in this together." Red Green
Aim - 20 Sep 2004 03:25 GMT >Anyone with this disease out there? I would be interested in hearing from >you, condition,medication etc.. I am 30 and I have had a hip replacement 2 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >S. Hi there, I'm here, sortof. I'm bad about checking in, and even worse at keeping in touch. But I am 31, female, have fairly severe AS, live in Seattle. I'm on:
enbrel synthroid cytomel wellbutrin topamax spironolactone percocet sometimes xanax occasional medical MJ when needed.
I think that's all of it. Seems like more as I sit down each week and fill up that stupid pill box...
Oh, and lately, because I am groggy in the morning after taking the perc and sometimes xanax at night, I've been drinking Diet Rockstar* on the way to work. Upper and downers to keep functioning. I feel like Elvis.
I do pretty well pain-wise since the Enbrel. It's definitely helped a LOT. If there is anything specific I can answer, let me know. If I space and don't come around for a few days or don't see the post, just drop me an email at dnayma at hotmail dot com.
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*Diet Rockstar isn't a true "upper" in the Elvis sense. It is one of those energy drinks. Its main ingredients are: guarana, milk thistle, inositol (a glucose isomer that according to a google search is proven as an antidepressant), eleutherococcus senticosus (siberian ginseng), B Complex, Ginkgo, Carnitine, Taurine, Splenda.
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Norman Lampert - 20 Sep 2004 05:58 GMT Hi, ho, Kermit the groaner here...
I was diagnosed with AS about 12 (?) years ago. One thing a good Rheumatologist will tell you is that no two people are the same, or will respond to the same treatment the same way. What works well for one person will have no effect on another, and will have bad side effects on a third.
That being said, I am currently on Bextra and sulfadine for inflammation and Ultram for pain. Unfortunately, I get acclimated to whatever med I'm on after a while and my RD has to switch me to another. I think it's about time to get switched again as the meds are losing effectiveness and I've been having a lot of pain for a few weeks now.
Some things which do help me are stretching for "range-of-motion" (when I remember) and keeping WARM. Whenever I have a flare-up, I bundle up when I go to bed, even to the point of being too warm and sweating. I find that keeping warm in bed helps keep me from locking up overnight. I may be a bit damp when I get up, but I can usually get up without groaning too much.
Another thing to remember is that your emotional state WILL effect your health. Most of us can tell you about having a flare after being under a lot of stress. I advocate listening to music (preferably with good friends) and spending a lot of time with a cat or dog. Petting a "fur person" can help relax the body (unless you have allergies.
Also, make sure that you have a rheumatologist who listens to you and makes you "part of the team". A doctor who actually listens to what you are saying has a much better chance of getting you some help.
I hope that this helps, and I wish you good luck and better health...
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firechief - 20 Sep 2004 20:08 GMT > Anyone with this disease out there? I would be interested in > hearing from you, condition,medication etc.. I am 30 and I > have had a hip replacement 2 years ago. I still have pain in > the replaced hip. Is there hope out there for pain free days?? I was diagnosed in 1977 by an ortho surgeion who Rx'd Indocine, told me to start using a cane (later crutches) and never once advised about exercise. I did some reading and learned some exercises myself. Began square dancing again in 1983 after a 23-year break (my ex- didn't dance and I stopped in 1960).
Didn't even hear the word "rheumatologist" until sent to one by a GP in 1991, and she only continued me on Indocine another 8 years before I switched doctors.
I had to stop driving in 1996 because the neck was fused by AS - I couldn't turn my head to watch out for other cars.
The new RD immediately arranged a THR (July 2000) which now allows me to sleep through the night 6-9 hrs instead of 90 minute periods. He also discontinued Indocine and tried all the new medicines, none of which really did any good. I have been on Remicade about 18 months and it appears to be holding things in check better than anything else, but I take Tyelnol #3 for some tenderness and some soreness.
Occassionally I sense some "tenderness" in the area around the new hip, but it's not "soreness." The RD is concentrating on the right hip and knee and the ribs, which do seem to be deteriorating.
I exercise - square dance 2, 3, 4 nights a week - and occassionly swim in our condo's pool.
The best therapy I've found is HUMOR. Friendships are right up there - probably tied with humor. The 3 furry felines in the household also act as therapy - either letting me laugh at their antics, or jumping up onto my lap and purring their hearts out.
Now I need to answer your question with a question. Have you followed through on the exercises given you before and after your THR? While I was in the transitional care unit of the hospital, I drove the staff nuts, strolling up and down the halls with a walker 110-12 hours a day. They wanted me out of bed ONLY when the PT or OT was instructing me, and that was less than 30 minutes a day. But I was determined to avoid the boob tube and strenghten my hip and legs as much as possible before returning home.
I was finally "kicked out" of rehab and was home12 days after surgery, instead of the 6+ weeks my doc had forecast.
Laura@Shawn - 21 Sep 2004 15:46 GMT Thank You to all who have replied.
After my surgery, I was back to work in 4 weeks on crutches. A year later I was jogging and working out. I felt great. Lately however, my feet hurt, hip, my neck is the same extremely painful some days, I have a hard time looking up and down, left to right. I have been getting headaches in my head, which feels like where my spine goes into my head, very painful. I am on indomethacin, an antinflammatory and percocet's. I have been on this same medication for many years now. I am just hoping there is some other med out there that has made someone feel great. ( without that narcotic side effect ) Working out does help, however my feet get so sore some days I can hardly put my shoes on. Mornings are bad for me, very sore and if I sit too long, forget moving.
Well, I will keep reading this reply and hope it grows with more replies or assistance.
Thanks Everyone : )
S.
> > Anyone with this disease out there? I would be interested in > > hearing from you, condition,medication etc.. I am 30 and I [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > I was finally "kicked out" of rehab and was home12 days after > surgery, instead of the 6+ weeks my doc had forecast. Allan in Norcal - 22 Sep 2004 01:31 GMT "firechief" <firechief@jjfpd.gov> wrote in message
> I had to stop driving in 1996 because the neck was fused by AS > - I couldn't turn my head to watch out for other cars. I've been totally fused (neck and back) for about 5 years now due to AS.
I'm 53 and was originally dx'ed in 1998. I still drive, changed cars from a Chevy Cavalier to a full sized ford van. I can see better with the van and can better swing my body left and right enoug to see fairly well. I also use a small mirror, 4" X 5" when I come up to intersections and need to see left before pulling out and making a right turn. I don't make any left turns unless there is a directional light. I don't drive as much but I refused to let AS take me out of the driver seat. Of course I am careful as to the time and where I drive and limit my driving to only when necessary.
donnah - 22 Sep 2004 15:59 GMT that's a good plan, Allan...sometimes we do have to make these types of adjustments for quality of life issues and it seems you have done a good job! donnah
> "firechief" <firechief@jjfpd.gov> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Of course I am careful as to the time and where I drive and limit my driving > to only when necessary. Allan in Norcal - 22 Sep 2004 17:07 GMT "donnah" <inferna9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> that's a good plan, Allan...sometimes we do have to make these types > of adjustments for quality of life issues and it seems you have done a > good job! > donnah Thanks Donnah,
I don't have the choice to give up driving, being single and basically living alone does not afford me the luxury to ask someone else to take me to the doctor, the store or anywhere else for that matter. There are many things that AS has taken away from me but driving is not one of them. I know that if the day ever comes that I am involved in a accident no matter how trival, I may lose my license forever. I know that my doctor must report to the Department of Motor Vehicles (in Kalifornia anyway) if he or she feels that my ability to operate a motor vehicle safely is impaired. In this state (California) failure to report a patient who's ability to operate a vehicle in a safe matter can result in revocation of the doctor's license to practice. Everytime I visit the doc I have to " play up " my condition. It really sucks that I cannot be totally honest with my doctor but without a vehicle I might as well be dead. I can barely walk and there are no buses or even affordable taxi service in the town I live in.
Anyway, that's the way it is with me but I don't live in pity. I look forward to each day and get out and do stuff even if it does hurt.
Remember, Adapt, improvise and overcome!
Allan 53 AS Enbrel Ultram (tramadol) Vicodin Amyrl (Diabetes T2) Neurontin Elanapril Hydrochlorathiazide ( I gotta go pee!)
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donnah - 23 Sep 2004 00:17 GMT Allan, I admire your attitude...and I know the effort it takes in keeping a good one. There are days when I have to take things a minute at a time... And my neurologist has already told me that he will not hesitate to have my license pulled if things get worse so I am also very careful <g> But in all honesty, I would stop driving first! I do not want to take the chance of hurting an innocent person. So I am enjoying my freedom now and am very grateful for it. donnah too lazy to list her meds...lol
> "donnah" <inferna9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > "There's no place like 127.0.0.1 d'huit - 23 Sep 2004 05:20 GMT > Allan, I admire your attitude...and I know the effort it takes in > keeping a good one. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > donnah > too lazy to list her meds...lol geesh, talk about good attitudes! i sure appreciate yours! ('course i'd lubs ya anyway, even if you had a rotten one.<g>)
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>> "donnah" <inferna9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >> >> "There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Caroline Marold - 28 Sep 2004 18:16 GMT Hey Allan. My father had AS and drove well into his 70's by adapting his cars himself. He had two car side mirrors installed on the left front - top - fender so that he could pull into any intersection at a 90 degree T and see cars coming in both directions - they were like \/. He also had another mirror on the top right front fender so he could see cars on the right side. Yes the car had one on the right side but nearer the door. That was useless to him because his neck had been completely fused since his early 20's hence the need for one further up. He ordered those mirrors from Europe long before any outside mirrors were on cars; drilled holes in the fenders and installed them himself. He also ordered seatbelts from the same place and pulled the car seats from the car and bolted those into place. I have worn a car seatbelt since I was 3 and that is well over 50 years. It was many years later that the USA finally required cars to have them. I have looked and looked for pictures of any of my father's cars so I can show this group what they looked like but have not found any. Not even one caught in the background of some other shot. Pretty sure I am not making all this up. lol I have some handicapped adaptations to my car because of my hands but I paid to have mine done unlike my resourceful father. :) You go Allan Duckie
> I'm 53 and was originally dx'ed in 1998. > I still drive, changed cars from a Chevy Cavalier to a full sized ford van. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Of course I am careful as to the time and where I drive and limit my driving > to only when necessary.
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Allan in Norcal - 30 Sep 2004 02:32 GMT "Caroline Marold" > wrote in message
> Hey Allan. My father had AS and drove well into his > 70's by adapting his cars himself. He had two car side [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > like \/. He also had another mirror on the top right > front fender so he could see cars on the right side. My Dad also had a " stiff neck " but was never diganosed with AS. He died in 1972 at 78 years of age. Drove right up to the day of his death. His 1963 Buick LeSabre had two mirrors installed on both the fenders half way between the windshield and the front. My mother said he complained about having a stiff neck but he thought it was from being kicked off a horse earlier in his life. I now believe it was AS but he still had some movement in his neck right up to his final day. I became completely fused at 50 and my brother who is a few years younger then I, is also complaining of a stiff neck and back.
I remember the old Buick's side mirrors very well to this day but never fully understood why he installed them until I became a full member of the Ankylosying Spondylitis Club.
I am planning on putting a additional mirror on the right front fender of the Ford van. I have a large parabolic stick-on mirror stuck to the right side mirror at the moment but I need one that sticks further out on the fender that can be seen easily thru the windshield as well. It will end up looking more like a small school bus or USPS mail truck when I am done!
Caroline Marold - 30 Sep 2004 05:40 GMT Hey as long as you can safely see and can be comfortable driving. My father drove hour to and then from each day to work with those mirrors and had two accidents that I knew about. I caused the first one when I got out of the car and ran back into the house to get something and since he couldn't see that I left the door open, backed up and stuck said open door through the wall of the garage. opps The second one was his fault. He was using the car to flatten the snow in the driveway [don't ask] and it fell off the bank of snow into the garage wall. I wouldn't recommend the mirror thing to someone who had been fused for a long while but once you get used to using yours mirrors to drive, it is really safer in the long run that being without. You check so much more carefully since you have the handicap than you might without the handicap. My dad finally quit driving because of the Parkinson's. The AS didn't stop him. What is that rule about the three disease limit... Duckie
> My Dad also had a " stiff neck " but was never diganosed with AS. He died in > 1972 at 78 years of age. Drove right up to the day of his death. His 1963 [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > fender that can be seen easily thru the windshield as well. It will end up > looking more like a small school bus or USPS mail truck when I am done!
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