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Ga?tan Michiels - 30 Jul 2004 12:15 GMT
Hello to my ASA friends,
I am now on 15 mg MTX  weekly injectable plus 4 mg Medrol
(Methylprednisolonum) daily. And I am doing fine with that combi. On my last
appointment with my RD he said that 4 mg Medrol is safer than one of the new
biologicals (Enbrel, Remicade, Humira ...) I am not sure that is true! ! !
I have read so many horror cortisone stories in  ASA.  Next  Monday I have a
new appointment with my RD.  Shall I ask for a biological and cut back the
Medrol ? What do you think ASA specialists ??? I am not sure ! ! !

A good health and pain free days to all of you ! ! !

Wil
Who is waving from over the ocean.
Belgum
Harvey R. Stone - 30 Jul 2004 14:49 GMT
Hi Wil,,   Glad you are doing well and that you are getting up to the
amounts of Methx where it can actually help you.
       IMO your doctor is full of beans.   A steroid is not in the same
class of medicine as the anti-tnf medicines and should not compared.   One
might help the other to get the job done of controlling what is taking place
with inflammatory arthritis.
Harv
> Hello to my ASA friends,
> I am now on 15 mg MTX  weekly injectable plus 4 mg Medrol
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Who is waving from over the ocean.
> Belgum
ShenMei9 - 30 Jul 2004 16:30 GMT
Well,
I have never taken much more than 4 mgs of medrol (often 2mgs with a day off
according to microdose protocol).  Still gained tons of weight, had my skin
thin out , got broken capillaries and the beginning of osteoporosis.  The stuff
worked though, for keeping me mobile.  It did not however, lower my sed rate or
my CRP.It also didn't last a full 24 hours so that my early morning dose got me
mobility during the day and many a sleepless night after about 2:00 am. Humira
was without side effects for me and in fact, I seemed healthier (no
tacchycardia while on humira-can't say the same about enbrel, great sleep, lots
of energy, hardly ever had those capillary breaks like I did with medrol) than
without it.

Biologics haven't been around long enough to make definitive statements about
long term side effects.  I think it all boils down to quality of life for all
of us.  I have had to develop strategies for dealing with humira and now enbrel
re: viral or bacterial infections since I work with sick people all the time.
Did that with a neti pot, sublinqual thymus and chinese herbs.

However, Mtx as well as pred has clear and definite side effects.  I would be
wanting to cut back the medrol and the methotrexate and try humira. I do know
docs who are suspicious of the biologics, Wil.  After all what happens 15 20
years down the line?  new drug classifications always bring up those issues.
At the age of 52, I am sure i would rather have 20 years with a biologic rather
than 20 years with corticosteroids, even at a microdose level.

Try the humira

melinda
ShenMei9 - 30 Jul 2004 17:08 GMT
Wil, you got spell checked <g>

Just not going to take that one l in Wil and decided to change you to well-

I do hate spell check

One last thing-humira does seem to have fewer side effects possibly because it
doesn't use mouse aniticlonal antibodies.  Lots of info avaiable to support
that-let me know if you want me to pull info for you-

Melinda
Margaret M. - 31 Jul 2004 22:01 GMT
Melinda,
Excuse me for piggybacking Wil's thread, but could you please check
your email to see if you have me blocked for some reason.  I know that
my AOL account had a problem receiving mail from my roadrunner
account, and I sent you an email about the postcard rally.

I know it's too late to get on the list to receive postcards, but I'd
like to send them out.  So, if you could please email me the list to
my roadrunner address below, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Mag
maggiemod [at] houston [dot] rr [dot] com
ShenMei9 - 31 Jul 2004 22:13 GMT
Actually, I put you on the list and sent you a list.  Since you are already on
the list, it is easy to still do the postcard project.  I just need to send you
the list again.  No worry as the important part was getting you added-

Melinda (who will try to send yu the list again)
Margaret M. - 01 Aug 2004 00:41 GMT
> Actually, I put you on the list and sent you a list.  Since you
> are already on the list, it is easy to still do the postcard
> project.  I just need to send you the list again.  No worry as
> the important part was getting you added-
>
> Melinda (who will try to send yu the list again)

I got it this time.  Thank you very much for sending it again.
I'm hoping to get them out this next week when I send my thank you
cards for all the gifts and meals friends brought after Duane's
accident.  Thanks again, Melinda.
Mag
 
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