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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Arthritis / July 2004Asking for Prayers Again!
my ASA family... please say prayers, chants, wave a magic wand, dance, whatever... I need prayers...you know I was sick most of June from the infection. That delayed my really starting PT as I needed too...although running to the bathroom actually helped the knee. Now I am having trouble getting the flexion I need...the ortho has "threatened" me with doing manual manipulation under anesthesia unless I have 90 degrees by next Friday. By beating the head of my PT, she can get near 90 or a degree or two more...I just can't do it myself yet. I am doing my pt religiously, too. My PT has told me that because of being so sick that it has set me back and she feels that in time I will get more flexion--well, I want her to tell the ortho that and for him to quit being so over-bearing :) I know I need more flexion and I am willing to work for it, but I can not stand the thought of being anywhere near a hospital, needle, etc.--it makes me want to throw up. sigh...am I making sense?? I'm still having brain fog but seem to have latched on to his words as a dire threat and I know that's stupid! oh help, please---I need to quit being a CS and relax, I know, but could you keep me in your thoughts? Thanks for listening, donnah OK you have got them!! Rose @}>-->>> Please remove "Ima" to reply privately! thanks, Rose! donnah > OK you have got them!! > Rose > @}>-->>> > Please remove "Ima" to reply privately! {{{{{donnah}}}}} Sarah L "Friends are those people who know the words to the song in your heart and sing them back to you when you have forgotten the words." (unattributed) You always have our prayers, Sweetie!! You'll get through this, I know you will. DeeTee ________________________________ DeeTee and Bob Taggart http://www.marykay.com/dtaggart3 http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8fwov/ ________________________________ > my ASA family... > please say prayers, chants, wave a magic wand, dance, whatever... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Thanks for listening, > donnah thank you, DeeTee... I know this sounds stupid, but did you ever get tired of getting through things? LOL...sometimes it seems like it never ends (whoa! gotta get off the pity pot :) donnah > You always have our prayers, Sweetie!! You'll get through this, I know you > will. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Thanks for listening, > > donnah Prayers continuing for ya Donna - we could always have KJ thwap your ortho a good one - that usually keeps 'em quiet for a day or two ;) Kimmy > Prayers continuing for ya Donna - we could always have KJ thwap your ortho a > good one - that usually keeps 'em quiet for a day or two ;) > > Kimmy Or you could channel KJ and thwap him yourself. (Note: Are all ortho's male?) This might be one of those times it would be easier to state your case by sending the doctor a fax. Surgeons never listen to patients, hardly ever listen to anyone else, and only occasionally listen to PT's and other Doctors, particularly if the other doctors are not surgeons. Jo It seems to me I heard somewhere that Jo Firey wrote in article <2l5ee4F5lk8oU1@uni-berlin.de>: >> Prayers continuing for ya Donna - we could always have KJ thwap your ortho >a >> good one - that usually keeps 'em quiet for a day or two ;) >Or you could channel KJ and thwap him yourself. (Note: Are all ortho's >male?) Fortunately not; my wife and I share an excellent female ortho. She's only done X-rays for me so far, but she did an outstanding job replacing my wife's shoulder several years ago. >This might be one of those times it would be easier to state your case by >sending the doctor a fax. Surgeons never listen to patients, hardly ever >listen to anyone else, and only occasionally listen to PT's and other >Doctors, particularly if the other doctors are not surgeons.  SignatureDon Old age is when you start saying "I wish I knew now what I knew then." thanks, Jo... in one way, I am lucky as my pcp is friends with the ortho and can attest to how sick I have been. and now that you have mentioned it, I see the gastro doc on Monday and will ask him to "verify"... thanks! donnah > > Prayers continuing for ya Donna - we could always have KJ thwap your ortho > a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Jo Oh Donna, of course you have the extra paryers and support- m thank you, M... I am so doing my best to get caught up, but it's going to take time and I don't think the ortho is looking at the whole picture... Yesterday the PT said she is going to fax him progress notes before the appt...she feels I have done well considering how sick I've been and that another week or so would be beneficial...so maybe he'll see beyond his ego and listen? donnah > Oh Donna, of course you have the extra paryers and support- > > m Donnah, sweetie, you always have my prayers and love!!! I have the utmost confidence that you will do just fine and the ortho guy will back off a bit. Hang in there dear one, it WILL get better!!! Donna G ok!! thanks, Kimmy--when can she be here?? my appt is next Friday at 2! donnah > Prayers continuing for ya Donna - we could always have KJ thwap your ortho a > good one - that usually keeps 'em quiet for a day or two ;) > > Kimmy Hi Donnah, Just relax & don't force it. Sending Good Thoughts, {{{{Donnah}}}} GramPaHugs, Alex, > my ASA family... > please say prayers, chants, wave a magic wand, dance, whatever... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Thanks for listening, > donnah -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. No endorsement is implied or intended. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * <a href="http://home.mn.rr.com/apbiii">AOL Click</a> * <a href="http://grampahugs.is-a-geek.org/">AOL Click</a> * Don't worry about life, * you're not going to survive it anyway **************************************************** LOL...thanks, Alex! I needed the reminder to relax! I honestly think my absolute fear of going near the hospital is blinding me to what I can get done before next week--I feel like no matter what I do, it ain't going to be enough...what a stupid feeling! (((Alex))) donnah > Hi Donnah, > Just relax & don't force it. [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > * you're not going to survive it anyway > **************************************************** Donnah, I'll keep you in my prayers. Try to keep thinking positively. MaryB > my ASA family... > please say prayers, chants, wave a magic wand, dance, whatever... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Thanks for listening, > donnah oh, thank you, Mary... and you are right about thinking positively... donnah > Donnah, I'll keep you in my prayers. Try to keep thinking positively. > MaryB [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Thanks for listening, > > donnah > my ASA family... > please say prayers, chants, wave a magic wand, dance, whatever... Hi DonnaH,,,, Ya know,,, my niece is an RN that does the same thing that the nurse that talked to you does. I am going to be blunt. You have to get the range they want you to have or you are going to ruin the operation objectives and future success. If you can not do it,,,, then take what ever procedure they have offered to get it done. You know you are in my prayers and believe me when I say the God knows who DonnaH is AND needs. You can do it.... Try a little harder. Endure a little more.. Sure, sure easy for me to say. Harv no, Harv, I know it wasn't easy for you to say <smile>...sometimes I need to hear about reality! I thought about the end outcome--he spent 5 hours correcting the problems and I have to accept that if it has to be done, then so be it...I'm just scared out of my right mind :) donnah > > my ASA family... > > please say prayers, chants, wave a magic wand, dance, whatever... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Harv Does it/would it help to apply heat while you are working the knee at home? I know I can always stretch better in the shower ot tub. Sending prayers and hugs and hopes for the best outcome! SignatureAdelle D. Stavis, Esq. > no, Harv, I know it wasn't easy for you to say <smile>...sometimes I > need to hear about reality! I thought about the end outcome--he spent [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > Harv thanks, Adelle! for some reason, the ortho doesn't want heat, he wants ice :( and I can't tolerate ice so I'm just going to have to tough it out. donnah > Does it/would it help to apply heat while you are working the knee at home? > I know I can always stretch better in the shower ot tub. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > > > Harv Hi Donnah, > thanks, Adelle! > for some reason, the ortho doesn't want heat, he wants ice :( and I > can't tolerate ice so I'm just going to have to tough it out. > donnah You are supposed to be retraining muscles that have been traumatized. Those muscles are probably already inflamed & don't need heat. They need to be cooled down to reduce inflammation. If you can't tolerate ice try using a cool damp towel or a cool not frozen gel pack. GramPaHugs, Alex, -- Any information is included for informational or entertainment purposes only, is based on my personal experiences & is an expression of my opinion. **************************************************** * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w M/SP Mn * <a href="http://home.mn.rr.com/apbiii">AOL Click</a> * <a href="http://grampahugs.is-a-geek.org/">AOL Click</a> **************************************************** Really good advice. Harv > Hi Donnah, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > * <a href="http://grampahugs.is-a-geek.org/">AOL Click</a> > **************************************************** thanks, Alex...that I can handle :) and I am sure it will help during my pt, especially the third time around because my knee is so swollen by then I need a pain pill afterwards. thank you! donnah > Hi Donnah, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > * <a href="http://grampahugs.is-a-geek.org/">AOL Click</a> > **************************************************** SignatureAdelle D. Stavis, Esq. > Hi Donnah, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > down to reduce inflammation. If you can't tolerate ice try using a cool damp > towel or a cool not frozen gel pack. Sorry for the bad advice. I forgot about post surgical inflammation. Adelle Adelle, I didn't think it was bad advice! I truly appreciate you taking the time to try and help--thank you! donnah > > Hi Donnah, > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Adelle Hi Donnah, I can't tolerate ice either, but last year when I had my knee injury, I got this cold compress thingee at the drugstore. I got it at CVS but I'm sure they have it at other stores. It was called Instant Cold, and it said it gave the relief of ice without the pain. It really worked for me, so you might want to give it a try. You just have to remember to put a wee bit of water in the plastic bag when you put it back, and it doesn't have to be refrigerated. There is a chemical in it that makes it cold. It really helped me a lot :) Carole :) > thanks, Adelle! > for some reason, the ortho doesn't want heat, he wants ice :( and I [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >>>> >>>>Harv thanks, Carole! donnah > Hi Donnah, > [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > >>>> > >>>>Harv Heat always works for me but I think the ice is to keep the inflammation down. Maybe you can heat first, exercise and ice it down later. Duckie > thanks, Adelle! > for some reason, the ortho doesn't want heat, he wants ice :( and I [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >>>> >>>>Harv Signature_('> (_<_) _ _('< -quack (_<_) _ __('< *QUACK!* <_{__) _('< "|,,|_" (_<_) _('< "AFLAC!" (_<_) Sending BIG prayers, Donnah. And get one doctor to talk to the other one, pronto!! BIG HUGS, TOO, Carole :) > my ASA family... > please say prayers, chants, wave a magic wand, dance, whatever... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Thanks for listening, > donnah thank you, Carole! they do talk...and so has the PT gone to bat for me. Harv's post made me realize that the ortho is concerned about the success of his hard work, but for me not for him. oh yuck! I hate being a wimp... donnah > Sending BIG prayers, Donnah. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Thanks for listening, > > donnah Heck, I'd be a CS and there ain't much I'm a CS about but surgery is one of 'em. The fact you came thru having the knee done is non-CSness. :-) Sending ya the bestest of good vibes and a ton and a half of healing wishes! Donnah Hugs from Rosie Signature"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself" -- Meat Loaf, Bat Outta Hell II > my ASA family... > please say prayers, chants, wave a magic wand, dance, whatever... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Thanks for listening, > donnah LOL...love ya lady! not everyone knows what a CS is <g> donnah > Heck, > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Thanks for listening, > > donnah You've got my prayers........ for better flexion coming rapidly, for better communication with your doctor about the whole situation and, most importantly, for some peace of mind and relaxation overall for you :) SignatureNann remove the Gator cheer to email me Simply the thing I am shall make me live --- William Shakespeare oh, God, thank you, Nann! I'll take everyone one of them (selfish aren't I?) donnah > You've got my prayers........ for better flexion coming rapidly, for better > communication with your doctor about the whole situation and, most > importantly, for some peace of mind and relaxation overall for you :) I'm all over it, Donnah...hugs and big prayers for you! Kelly C.;o) thank you so much, Kelly... how are you??? donnah > I'm all over it, Donnah...hugs and big prayers for you! > > Kelly C.;o) > thank you so much, Kelly... > how are you??? > donnah I'm doing pretty well and have an update on the thread titled Ping: Kelly C. Hugs, Kelly C.;o) ok :) I'll look for it...thanks! donnah > > thank you so much, Kelly... > > how are you??? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Hugs, > Kelly C.;o) Don't do prayers but will do lots of good thoughts Lorrie F >my ASA family... >please say prayers, chants, wave a magic wand, dance, whatever... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >Thanks for listening, >donnah Lorrie, I'll take good thoughts!! My daughter doesn't do prayers, either, but healing vibes, etc.--it's the love that helps... and I thank you! donnah > Don't do prayers but will do lots of good thoughts > Lorrie F [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Thanks for listening, > >donnah You have them donnah. I would tell him that you would like a bit more time. If the PT can get it there then it is not a question of it not being possible. Sit in your rocking chair as much as possible and keep rocking. Duckie > my ASA family... > please say prayers, chants, wave a magic wand, dance, whatever... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Thanks for listening, > donnah Signature_('> (_<_) _ _('< -quack (_<_) _ __('< *QUACK!* <_{__) _('< "|,,|_" (_<_) _('< "AFLAC!" (_<_) thanks, Duckie... and I feel the same way about the time...actually, the PT does too! I think even another week would be great help... oh, yeah, that rocker is getting a workout...so far, the dogs and cats have learned to ignore my moaning...LOL...wonder if the neighbors have <bg> donnah > You have them donnah. I would tell him that you would like a bit more > time. If the PT can get it there then it is not a question of it not [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Thanks for listening, > > donnah >the ortho has >"threatened" me with doing manual manipulation under anesthesia unless >I have 90 degrees by next Friday. ROCKING CHAIR Sit in a rocking chair, and rock, rock, rock, rock. You will be amazed how quickly you get the bend back in that knee. Char "Remember, I'm pulling for ya'. We're all in this together." Red Green I've been rocking, Char, even when I was so sick... but my daughter is bringing me her rocker since it's a different style than Nick's big chair so that may help, too. His is an over stuffed recliner, glider,etc. and was killing my lower back...so that may also help account for the lack of progress. thanks! donnah > >the ortho has > >"threatened" me with doing manual manipulation under anesthesia unless [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > "Remember, I'm pulling for ya'. We're all in this together." Red Green |
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