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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 08 Jul 2004 23:17 GMT

Alex - How is Sarah doing? Is she feeling a little less crappy now that
she's home and has you as chief cook and bottle washer? Hope so. Give her
our love.

DeeTee
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Alex Barna - 09 Jul 2004 00:07 GMT

> Alex - How is Sarah doing?

Crappy & having an unofficial FMS flair from the stress of waiting for the
surgery to be scheduled. All the test results are back except for the CT scan &
they were all negative.

> Is she feeling a little less crappy now that
> she's home and has you as chief cook and bottle washer?

I've been chief cook and bottle washer since 1990 so that hasn't changed. ;)

> Hope so. Give her our love.

Thanks, Will do.

GramPaHugs,
Alex,

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Caroline Marold - 09 Jul 2004 06:16 GMT

Hugs to you both Alex. I hate stress. Wish the doctors had some idea of
how the wait can stress the body. Sometimes they just don't seem to have
a clue.
Good news about all the rest being negative. Prayers will continue.
Duckie

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Nann Bell - 09 Jul 2004 13:30 GMT

> Crappy & having an unofficial FMS flair from the stress of waiting for the
> surgery to be scheduled. All the test results are back except for the CT
> scan &
> they were all negative.

negative results are good. I hope the surgery gets scheduled soon and the
stress eases off. Continuing prayers for more negative results.

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donnah - 09 Jul 2004 17:02 GMT

(((Alex and Sarah)))
you are both in my heart...
donnah

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Ted Rosenberg - 09 Jul 2004 16:03 GMT

I go to a clinic for blood thinner patients, where we see, not a doctor,
but a pharachologist. I asked her an off-topic question, which she was
kind enough to answer.

As I posted a while ago, my wife started taking Volteron, and it was
like a story of a visit to Lourdes. Within 9 hours she was walking
normaly, without a cane, and with no pain.

The pharmachologist said that, as far as anyone can tell, there does not
seem to be much difference between NSAIDs - however, for no reason that
they can pin down, results vary wildly from person to person. She said
that hospitals have to restrict choices under normal conditions,
otherwise the pharmacy would be carrying thousands of drugs that are
almost never used.

That mitigates against the "middle level" srugs. Everyone has the
basics - Asprin, Ibuprofen, etc. and the super expensive heavily
advertised (but often worthless) ones, Viox, Celebrex, etc. But the less
expensive, not promoted drugs, like Volteron, are rarely used. AND she
felt that they are often better than those which spend millions in hype

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RoseB - 09 Jul 2004 18:08 GMT

. But the less

>expensive, not promoted drugs, like Volteron, are rarely used. AND she
>felt that they are often better than those which spend millions in hype

I don't think that is true. I think that many people do or have tried
voltarin but need to go off because of gastric difficulties. I think
that that is why voltarin is now offered in some countries as a
topical analgesic along with certain other chemicals that allow it to
be delivered transdermally. In this country (Canada) you have to have
tried and failed a huge range of other NSAIDs before you qualify to
receive insurance coverage for celebrex or vioxx, unless you have
pre-existing conditions.

In Canadsa (and now I believe in the US) voltarin is available as
arthrotec, which is a comination of voltarin and misoprostil which has
properties that protect the stomach.

NSAIDs, in general, are very hard on the stomach and intestinal tract.
The newer NSAIDs eliminate a great deal of the associated risk and
that is why there is more "hype" about them. It is unfortunate that
they need to be so expensive, but that is the reality that we can do
little to change.

I think that it is great that your wife has experienced such a good
success with voltarin and i wish her continued success.

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Newsgroup Spambuster - 10 Jul 2004 00:56 GMT

{{{{{{{{{{{{Alex & Sarah}}}}}}}}}}}

Alex, prayers ongoing for you, Sarah, and your family!!! Glad that
most of the tests have been negative thus far and praying surgery will
get scheduled soon so that you all can put this behind you as soon as
possible!!! Hang in there Alex!

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Ted Rosenberg - 09 Jul 2004 16:05 GMT

I go to a clinic for blood thinner patients, where we see, not a doctor,
but a pharmacologist. I asked her an off-topic question, which she was
kind enough to answer.

As I posted a while ago, my wife started taking Volteron, and it was
like a story of a visit to Lourdes. Within 9 hours she was walking
normally, without a cane, and with no pain.

The pharmacologist said that, as far as anyone can tell, there does not
seem to be much difference between NSAID - however, for no reason that
they can pin down, results vary wildly from person to person. She said
that hospitals have to restrict choices under normal conditions,
otherwise the pharmacy would be carrying thousands of drugs that are
almost never used.

That mitigates against the "middle level" drugs. Everyone has the
basics - Aspirin, Ibuprofen, etc. and the super expensive heavily
advertised (but often worthless) ones, Vi ox, Celebrex, etc. But the
less expensive, not promoted drugs, like Volteron, are rarely used. AND
she felt that they are often better than those which spend millions in hype

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Kelly Cobb - 10 Jul 2004 02:50 GMT

> I go to a clinic for blood thinner patients, where we see, not a doctor,
> but a pharmacologist. I asked her an off-topic question, which she was
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> less expensive, not promoted drugs, like Volteron, are rarely used. AND
> she felt that they are often better than those which spend millions in hype

That's an interesting viewpoint, Ted and not one that I've heard before.
I've taken Voltaren XR successfully for several years and have never been on
Vioxx. Celebrex made me nauseaus (okay, why can't I spell that word?) and
Ibuprofen did nothing but hurt my stomach. I'm glad your wife has found
something that works for her, as well.

Kelly C.;o)

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