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OTP: Menopause Questions
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debbie m. - 01 Jul 2004 23:21 GMT OK ladies, need some info. I had a hysterectomy about two years ago. I kept my ovaries. I was already in menopause. Have not had to take anything though.
However, lately the symptoms are getting to the point that I need to do something.
Doctor suggested .3 mg of premarin. I am leaning toward something natural. I've read evening primrose is good.
Who has had premarin and who uses natural and what doses etc. Any help would be appreciated. Quick! LOL
Top symptoms: Tender breast vaginal changes hair thinning moodiness (this could be from anything LOL)
Thanks, debbie m. http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/
Sonatabv - 02 Jul 2004 03:40 GMT Debbie,
I can't thoroughly answer your questions but I can tell you that I took premarin for fertility. It can restart your period after menopause. I won't take it. My own GYN suggested that I try birth control pills but I asked him why should I start now? I never took them and don't need birth control now. He never answered that one.
Good luck!
Vickie B.
jb - 02 Jul 2004 04:50 GMT > OK ladies, need some info. I had a hysterectomy about two years ago. I > kept my ovaries. I was already in menopause. Have not had to take anything [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > debbie m. > http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/ Debbie I thought this was so cute and fitting, to your question. I dont have any answers but hope you can enjoy a little humor janice
The Seven Dwarfs of Menopause
> The Seven Dwarfs of Menopause arrived at my door > without warning: Itchy, Bitchy, Sweaty, Sleepy, [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > > debbie m. - 02 Jul 2004 13:12 GMT Janice,
Thank you! It brought a smile to my face.
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> > OK ladies, need some info. I had a hysterectomy about two years ago. I > > kept my ovaries. I was already in menopause. Have not had to take anything [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > > > > Boca Jan - 02 Jul 2004 16:07 GMT I had been on Premarin for a couple of years to handle the hot flashes, but my doctor took me off of it because of other health issues it exacertabes. I have high blood pressure and he couldn't get it under control. The only thing that happened was I started hot flashes again. I kept a little fan at work and turned it on when I got sweaty. After about 6 months they went away and I am premarin free now for 1 year and am glad for it! I don't suffer from vaginal dryness or lack of "motivation" however my doctor said that had a lot to do with how I was before menopause. LOL
I guess I am one of those people who believe that we were made to go through menopause and it won't kill us. It might kill our husbands though!
Good luck
> > OK ladies, need some info. I had a hysterectomy about two years ago. I > > kept my ovaries. I was already in menopause. Have not had to take anything [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > > > > debbie m. - 02 Jul 2004 20:54 GMT Well, yes I've done well for several years now of being in menapause and dealing with the symptoms, even keeping my ovaires because I wanted to go natural. However, there comes a time when enough is enough. I swear I thought by boobs were going to explode the past week, plus all the other symptoms.
Anyway, I bit the bullet and took one this morning. Believe it or not I am headache free the first time in a week. Just feel better. Could be coincidence or placebo effect, but I'll take that right now. If no side effects I might stay on them a few months until I can find some natural things to take. Thanks for all the replies.
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> I had been on Premarin for a couple of years to handle the hot flashes, but > my doctor took me off of it because of other health issues it exacertabes. I [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > > > > > > Jo Firey - 02 Jul 2004 22:27 GMT Just remember that the difference between those who breeze through menopause and those who hit it like a brick wall is not a matter of will alone. Just because some women sail thru with few and manageable symptoms doesn't make them better or stronger people. The ones who are miserable, and make those around them miserable as well, but tough it out without medical help aren't somehow superior beings either. We have to each navigate our own course through, with such help as we need and can find.
Even hot flashes are hardly created equal. Some women will say "Oh my!" and fan themselves a bit and be OK. One friend I saw on many occasions turn beet red, sweat profusely, and nearly pass out. She was even afraid to get in a car alone and go anywhere.
So research what works for others, search for what works for you, and best wishes on the journey.
Jo
> Well, yes I've done well for several years now of being in menapause and > dealing with the symptoms, even keeping my ovaires because I wanted to go [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] > > > > > > > > > debbie m. - 02 Jul 2004 22:39 GMT Thanks Jo, I needed those words of encouragement.
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> Just remember that the difference between those who breeze through menopause > and those who hit it like a brick wall is not a matter of will alone. Just [quoted text clipped - 127 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > Char - 03 Jul 2004 09:42 GMT >Just remember that the difference between those who breeze through menopause >and those who hit it like a brick wall is not a matter of will alone. I have been so incredibly lucky. I have had a few "warm" flashes, but nothing like a "hot" flash. But other than that, I think I have sailed through menopause, without any problems at all.
I had a hysterectomy over 25 yrs ago, but kept my ovaries. Couldnt tell when I hit menopause, by missing periods, because my uterus is gone, but assume at age 56, that I have hit it and went on thru, without any problems.
Like I said. I have been incredibly lucky. Char
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Caroline Marold - 03 Jul 2004 22:40 GMT I had the beet red, sweat profusely type. Passing out never was a problem thank heavens. I never said 'oh my' when they hit. I will let you fill in the blank for what I did say. lol Most of my friends never had those night sweats either. They were awful - the sweats not my friends. Trial and error - you will find something that works for you. Duckie
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> Even hot flashes are hardly created equal. Some women will say "Oh my!" and > fan themselves a bit and be OK. One friend I saw on many occasions turn [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jo Nanny - 02 Jul 2004 12:56 GMT My GYN switched me from Premarin (which I was on for years) to Cenestin, .3 mg. I also take Prometrium (progestin) at bedtime for night sweats. I know the risks, advantages and disadvantages of HRT and have decided to go with this treatment. Nanny
> OK ladies, need some info. I had a hysterectomy about two years ago. I > kept my ovaries. I was already in menopause. Have not had to take anything [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > debbie m. > http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/ Nann Bell - 02 Jul 2004 13:36 GMT My ovaries are gone and I've been on Premarin ever since. With no ovaries, I'm on .625 mg. Once we rebuild some of this osteopenic bone though, we plan to taper me off of it. I had been planning on using natural help for normal menopause symptoms though. Black Cohosh is also supposed to be really good. It seems to me there is yet another supplement as well, but I can't dredge the name out of my sluggish brain right now. Also soy products are supposed to help a lot. If you can, start eating tofu and drinking soy milk. There are also supplements with soy, but I don't think they are as effective as dietary soy. I think that is what studies have shown though I can't swear to it.
If you want more information on natural options, you might check with Melinda. She is usually a great source of information on natural options for just about everything.
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> OK ladies, need some info. I had a hysterectomy about two years ago. I > kept my ovaries. I was already in menopause. Have not had to take anything [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > debbie m. > http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/ Patty - 02 Jul 2004 15:58 GMT Hi Debbie, I take Evening Primrose on the advice of my gyn. He's seen a lot of success with it in his patients. It's been working great for me for a long time. It's helped my PMS issues tremendously and is now helping my peri-menopause stuff. Helps my moods and has cut the nightsweats way back. A great side-effect is that it's helped lower my cholesterol too. Hope this helps : ) ------------- Hoping your hills are never too steep! Be well, Patty
debbie m. - 02 Jul 2004 20:55 GMT Patty what brand do you take and what dosage? E-mail me if you want.
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> Hi Debbie, > I take Evening Primrose on the advice of my gyn. He's seen a lot of success [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hoping your hills are never too steep! > Be well, Patty Patty - 04 Jul 2004 01:11 GMT >Patty what brand do you take and what dosage? Hi Debbie, I take 500 mgs/2 x day. Don't have a usual brand. I buy whatever's on sale at GNC or vitaminshoppe.com. I haven't noticed any variation in how I feel between brands. Hope it works for you if you try it. Let me know! ------------- Hoping your hills are never too steep! Be well, Patty
Caroline Marold - 02 Jul 2004 23:04 GMT I took Vitamin E for years to manage my hot flashes. Started with 100 mg and when it stopped working I increased it. Spent a couple of years at 800 mg with only two or three hot flashes a week. Without the vit E, I was getting 2 or 3 an hour with a dozen or so a day and getting up out of a soaking bed in the middle of the night to walk around and let me and it dry out enough to climb back in. The E stopped that. It is one of those that needs to be stopped for surgery and I discovered at my last surgery that when I cut back, nothing happened. Guess I had passed along into the no longer need category. Duckie
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Squirrely - 02 Jul 2004 19:45 GMT Debbie,
I am keeping an eye on this post with you. I don't have any suggestions but go thru alot of the same things. But I do have bad hot flashes also.
Wishing you the best of luck with finding something that works.
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Squirrely Jo
> OK ladies, need some info. I had a hysterectomy about two years ago. I > kept my ovaries. I was already in menopause. Have not had to take anything [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > debbie m. > http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/ debbie m. - 02 Jul 2004 20:56 GMT Thanks Squirrely. Did you see my earlier post about starting on premarin today.
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> Debbie, > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > debbie m. > > http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/ Squirrely - 03 Jul 2004 18:08 GMT Debbie,
Yes, I read the other message and wish you lots of luck. I hope the premarin works for you.
I am thinking of taking Duckies suggestion and see if Vit e will be good for me too.
jb, thanks for the menopause joke. That was so great. I am sending it to a friend of mine who is also going thru it. She will get a kick out of it. That was good. Thanks for the laugh.
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Squirrely Jo
> Thanks Squirrely. Did you see my earlier post about starting on premarin > today. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > > debbie m. > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/ DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 03 Jul 2004 21:41 GMT Didn't see the original post, but I take .625 mg of Premarin daily. They'll have a real fight on their hands if they ever try to take it away from me! That little itty bitty pill stopped the hot flashes, mood swings, night sweats, etc. It made a major difference in my life.
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> Debbie, > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > > > debbie m. > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/ Nanny - 04 Jul 2004 02:03 GMT DeeTee, I'm one of those, too, who benefit with even a low dosage of estrogen. When I was off Premarin, the night sweats were profuse and very frequent. My GYN now has me on Cenestin (.3 mg) and Prometrium. It literally stopped the night sweats, so for that reason only I'm opting to stay on HRT. Nanny
> Didn't see the original post, but I take .625 mg of Premarin daily. They'll > have a real fight on their hands if they ever try to take it away from me! [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > > > > debbie m. > > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/ Corey Bell - 12 Jul 2004 06:51 GMT > OK ladies, need some info. I had a hysterectomy about two years ago. I > kept my ovaries. I was already in menopause. Have not had to take anything [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > hair thinning > moodiness (this could be from anything LOL) Hello,
The ingredients you all have been mentioning are in our female support formula called "Feminene." My mother had a hysterectomy and swares by this product. My wife also uses this for PMS control and loves it as well. I have included information from my website about this product. At the very least I hope I can provide some information on what the various ingredients listed earlier in the thread do. Please e-mail me and I will be glad to send you a broucher on this product. corey@coreybell.net
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Here is a listing of the ingredients found in Feminene:
Black Cohosh Black Cohosh is a shrub-like plant native to the eastern deciduous forests of North America. It has been used for centuries to help counteract the symptoms of PMS and menopause.
Vitamin E Vitamin E, or d-alpha tocerpherol, is considered to be a highly effective anitioxidant. Vitamin E has also been shown to play a part in the reduction of hot flashes associated with PMS and menopause, can reduce breast tenderness, and helps support normal heart health maintenance.
Soy Isoflavones Soy is one the richest dietary sources of isoflavones available. Isoflavones are compounds which function as phytoestrogens (plant-based estrogens) in the body, providing health maintenance benefits from their subtle estrogen-like effects.
Dong Quai Dong Quai has been referred to as the female ginseng. Used in traditional Chinese culture, it is prescribed to help maintain proper female health related to menstruation.
Evening Primrose Oil Evening Primrose Oil, also referred to as EPO, contains gamma linolenic acid, or GLA. GLA is a fatty acid that the body converts to prostaglandin, a hormone-like substance. It has been shown in studies to dramatically reduce the symptoms associated with PMS.
Wild Yam Wild Yam has many beneficial effects. It was discovered to play a role in the controlling of blood sugar levels. It also contains anitioxidant properties and possesses strong antispasmodic and anti-inflammatory qualities.
Vitex (Chaste Berry) The use of Vitex dates back to the days of Hippocrates. It has been shown to offer relief from breast tenderness, cramping, headaches and acne, and promotes the proper level of prolactin, which can reduce the severity of PMS.
Horsetail Also known as Shave Grass or Bottlebrush, Horsetail is rich in silicic acid and silicates. It also contains potassium, and over a dozen bioflavonoids.
Red Clover Similar to Soy, Red Clover also contains high levels of isoflavones, well known for their subtle estrogen-like properties. Red Clover has been considered as a possible alternative to estrogen in some menopausal women.
Passiflora Also known as Passion Flower, Passiflora has shown to contain flavonoids that have relaxing properties believed to help reduce the anxiety associated with PMS and /or menopause.
Valerian Root Valerian Root contains many essential oils that can have a calming effect. It has also been shown to have a positive effect on sleep quality without increasing total time spent asleep.
Sage Sage has one of the longest histories of use as a dietary supplement. It is a leafy herb used for a variety of purposes, including helping control hot flashes. Some essential oils found in Sage are also considered to have powerful antioxidant qualities.
St. Johns Wort St. Johns Wort is herbal-based mood regulator that has gained a great deal of popularity in the last few years. It works by inhibiting the reuptake of the nuerotransmitters dopamine, seratonin, and norepinephrine, allowing more of these nuerotransmitters to be available in the brain.
Vitamin B Blend Featuring seven different B vitamins, Feminene packs a potent blend of these beneficial ingredients into each serving. Vitamin B deficiencies have been associated with a wide range of health challenges, ranging from moodiness to cardiovascular complications. Vitamin B6 and B12 also help reduce homocysteine levels, which has been shown to be a key risk factor in maintaining a healthy heart.
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