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debbie m. - 01 Jul 2004 23:21 GMT
OK ladies, need some info.  I had a hysterectomy about two years ago.  I
kept my ovaries.  I was already in menopause.  Have not had to take anything
though.

However, lately the symptoms are getting to the point that I need to do
something.

Doctor suggested .3 mg of premarin.  I am leaning toward something natural.
I've read evening primrose is good.

Who has had premarin and who uses natural and what doses etc.  Any help
would be appreciated. Quick!   LOL

Top symptoms:
Tender breast
vaginal changes
hair thinning
moodiness (this could be from anything  LOL)

Thanks,
debbie m.
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/
Sonatabv - 02 Jul 2004 03:40 GMT
Debbie,

I can't thoroughly answer your questions but I can tell you that I took
premarin for fertility.  It can restart your period after menopause.  I won't
take it.  My own GYN suggested that I try birth control pills but I asked him
why should I start now?  I never took them and don't need birth control now.
He never answered that one.

Good luck!

Vickie B.
jb - 02 Jul 2004 04:50 GMT
> OK ladies, need some info.  I had a hysterectomy about two years ago.  I
> kept my ovaries.  I was already in menopause.  Have not had to take anything
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> debbie m.
> http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/

Debbie I thought this was so cute and fitting, to your question.
I dont have any answers but hope you can enjoy a little humor
janice

The Seven Dwarfs of Menopause

> The Seven Dwarfs of Menopause arrived at my door
> without warning: Itchy, Bitchy, Sweaty, Sleepy,
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debbie m. - 02 Jul 2004 13:12 GMT
Janice,

Thank you!  It brought a smile to my face.

debbie m.
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/

> > OK ladies, need some info.  I had a hysterectomy about two years ago.  I
> > kept my ovaries.  I was already in menopause.  Have not had to take anything
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Boca Jan - 02 Jul 2004 16:07 GMT
I had been on Premarin for a couple of years to handle the hot flashes, but
my doctor took me off of it because of other health issues it exacertabes. I
have high blood pressure and he couldn't get it under control. The only
thing that happened was I started hot flashes again. I kept a little fan at
work and turned it on when I got sweaty. After about 6 months they went away
and I am premarin free now for 1 year and am glad for it! I don't suffer
from vaginal dryness or lack of "motivation" however my doctor said that had
a lot to do with how I was before menopause. LOL

I guess I am one of those people who believe that we were made to go through
menopause and it won't kill us. It might kill our husbands though!

Good luck

> > OK ladies, need some info.  I had a hysterectomy about two years ago.  I
> > kept my ovaries.  I was already in menopause.  Have not had to take anything
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debbie m. - 02 Jul 2004 20:54 GMT
Well, yes I've done well for several years now of being in menapause and
dealing with the symptoms, even keeping my ovaires because I wanted to go
natural.
However, there comes a time when enough is enough.  I swear I thought by
boobs were going to explode the past week, plus all the other symptoms.

Anyway, I bit the bullet and took one this morning.  Believe it or not I am
headache free the first time in a week.  Just feel better.   Could be
coincidence or placebo effect, but I'll take that right now.  If no side
effects I might stay on them a few months until I can find some natural
things to take.  Thanks for all the replies.

debbie m.
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/

> I had been on Premarin for a couple of years to handle the hot flashes, but
> my doctor took me off of it because of other health issues it exacertabes. I
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Jo Firey - 02 Jul 2004 22:27 GMT
Just remember that the difference between those who breeze through menopause
and those who hit it like a brick wall is not a matter of will alone.  Just
because some women sail thru with few and manageable symptoms doesn't make
them better or stronger people.  The ones who are miserable, and make those
around them miserable as well, but tough it out without medical help aren't
somehow superior beings either.  We have to each navigate our own course
through, with such help as we need and can find.

Even hot flashes are hardly created equal.  Some women will say "Oh my!" and
fan themselves a bit and be OK.   One friend I saw on many occasions turn
beet red, sweat profusely, and nearly pass out.  She was even afraid to get
in a car alone and go anywhere.

So research what works for others, search for what works for you, and best
wishes on the journey.

Jo
> Well, yes I've done well for several years now of being in menapause and
> dealing with the symptoms, even keeping my ovaires because I wanted to go
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debbie m. - 02 Jul 2004 22:39 GMT
Thanks Jo, I needed those words of encouragement.

debbie m.
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/

> Just remember that the difference between those who breeze through menopause
> and those who hit it like a brick wall is not a matter of will alone.  Just
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Char - 03 Jul 2004 09:42 GMT
>Just remember that the difference between those who breeze through menopause
>and those who hit it like a brick wall is not a matter of will alone.

I have been so incredibly lucky.  I have had a few "warm" flashes, but nothing
like a "hot" flash.  But other than that, I think I have sailed through
menopause, without any problems at all.

I had a hysterectomy over 25 yrs ago, but kept my ovaries.  Couldnt tell when I
hit menopause, by missing periods, because my uterus is gone, but assume at age
56, that I have hit it and went on thru, without any problems.

Like I said.  I have been incredibly lucky.
Char

"Remember, I'm pulling for ya'. We're all in this together." Red Green
Caroline Marold - 03 Jul 2004 22:40 GMT
I had the beet red, sweat profusely type. Passing out never was a
problem thank heavens. I never said 'oh my' when they hit. I will let
you fill in the blank for what I did say. lol
Most of my friends never had those night sweats either. They were awful
- the sweats not my friends. Trial and error - you will find something
that works for you.
Duckie

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> Even hot flashes are hardly created equal.  Some women will say "Oh my!" and
> fan themselves a bit and be OK.   One friend I saw on many occasions turn
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> Jo
Nanny - 02 Jul 2004 12:56 GMT
My GYN switched me from Premarin (which I was on for years) to Cenestin, .3
mg.  I also take Prometrium (progestin) at bedtime for night sweats.  I know
the risks, advantages and disadvantages of HRT and have decided to go with
this treatment.  Nanny
> OK ladies, need some info.  I had a hysterectomy about two years ago.  I
> kept my ovaries.  I was already in menopause.  Have not had to take anything
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> debbie m.
> http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/
Nann Bell - 02 Jul 2004 13:36 GMT
My ovaries are gone and I've been on Premarin ever since.  With no ovaries,
I'm on .625 mg.  Once we rebuild some of this osteopenic bone though, we plan
to taper me off of it.  I had been planning on using natural help for normal
menopause symptoms though.  Black Cohosh is also supposed to be really good.  
It seems to me there is yet another supplement as well, but I can't dredge
the name out of my sluggish brain right now.  Also soy products are supposed
to help a lot.  If you can, start eating tofu and drinking soy milk.  There
are also supplements with soy, but I don't think they are as effective as
dietary soy.  I think that is what studies have shown though I can't swear to
it.

If you want more information on natural options, you might check with
Melinda.  She is usually a great source of information on natural options for
just about everything.

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> OK ladies, need some info.  I had a hysterectomy about two years ago.  I
> kept my ovaries.  I was already in menopause.  Have not had to take anything
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> debbie m.
> http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/
Patty - 02 Jul 2004 15:58 GMT
Hi Debbie,
  I take Evening Primrose on the advice of my gyn. He's seen a lot of success
with it in his patients. It's been working great for me for a long time. It's
helped my PMS issues tremendously and is now helping my peri-menopause stuff.
Helps my moods and has cut the nightsweats way back. A great side-effect is
that it's helped lower my cholesterol too.
  Hope this helps : )
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Hoping your hills are never too steep!
Be well, Patty
debbie m. - 02 Jul 2004 20:55 GMT
Patty what brand do you take and what dosage?  E-mail me if you want.

debbie m.
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/

> Hi Debbie,
>    I take Evening Primrose on the advice of my gyn. He's seen a lot of success
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> Hoping your hills are never too steep!
> Be well, Patty
Patty - 04 Jul 2004 01:11 GMT
>Patty what brand do you take and what dosage?

Hi Debbie,
 I take 500 mgs/2 x day. Don't have a usual brand. I buy whatever's on sale at
GNC or vitaminshoppe.com. I haven't noticed any variation in how I feel between
brands. Hope it works for you if you try it. Let me know!
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Hoping your hills are never too steep!
Be well, Patty
Caroline Marold - 02 Jul 2004 23:04 GMT
I took Vitamin E for years to manage my hot flashes. Started with 100 mg
and when it stopped working I increased it. Spent a couple of years at
800 mg with only two or three hot flashes a week. Without the vit E, I
was getting 2 or 3 an hour with a dozen or so a day and getting up out
of a soaking bed in the middle of the night to walk around and let me
and it dry out enough to climb back in. The E stopped that. It is one of
those that needs to be stopped for surgery and I discovered at my last
surgery that when I cut back, nothing happened. Guess I had passed along
into the no longer need category.
Duckie

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Squirrely - 02 Jul 2004 19:45 GMT
Debbie,

I am keeping an eye on this post with you. I don't have any suggestions but
go thru alot of the same things. But I do have bad hot flashes also.

Wishing you the best of luck with finding something that works.

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Love and hugs to all
Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> OK ladies, need some info.  I had a hysterectomy about two years ago.  I
> kept my ovaries.  I was already in menopause.  Have not had to take anything
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> debbie m.
> http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/
debbie m. - 02 Jul 2004 20:56 GMT
Thanks Squirrely.  Did you see my earlier post about starting on premarin
today.

debbie m.
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/angels1/

> Debbie,
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Squirrely - 03 Jul 2004 18:08 GMT
Debbie,

Yes, I read the other message and wish you lots of luck. I hope the premarin
works for you.

I am thinking of taking Duckies suggestion and see if Vit e will be good for
me too.

jb, thanks for the menopause joke. That was so great. I am sending it to a
friend of mine who is also going thru it. She will get a kick out of it.
That was good. Thanks for the laugh.

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Good thoughts coming your way too.

Squirrely Jo

> Thanks Squirrely.  Did you see my earlier post about starting on premarin
> today.
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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 03 Jul 2004 21:41 GMT
Didn't see the original post, but I take .625 mg of Premarin daily.  They'll
have a real fight on their hands if they ever try to take it away from me!
That little itty bitty pill stopped the hot flashes, mood swings, night
sweats, etc.  It made a major difference in my life.

DeeTee
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Nanny - 04 Jul 2004 02:03 GMT
DeeTee, I'm one of those, too, who benefit with even a low dosage of
estrogen.  When I was off Premarin, the night sweats were profuse and very
frequent.  My GYN now has me on Cenestin (.3 mg) and Prometrium.  It
literally stopped the night sweats, so for that reason only I'm opting to
stay on HRT.  Nanny
> Didn't see the original post, but I take .625 mg of Premarin daily.  They'll
> have a real fight on their hands if they ever try to take it away from me!
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Corey Bell - 12 Jul 2004 06:51 GMT
> OK ladies, need some info.  I had a hysterectomy about two years ago.  I
> kept my ovaries.  I was already in menopause.  Have not had to take anything
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> hair thinning
> moodiness (this could be from anything  LOL)

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