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> > So my question is: Has anyone here who was using Embrel successfully made the
> > switch to Remicade? Was it a positive or negative experience overall? More
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> rightly.
> Nann
Yes, and I am still adjusting. Took Enbrel for almost three great
years. Others have made the change here also and some of them were because
Enbrel just seemed to slowly stop working for them and some because it never
really worked well for them anyway. I have my eye on Humira now if
Remicade does not seem to be working or I have a reaction to Remicade.
I can not tell you how thankful I am that we have choices now. I am
from the end of the mega dose of aspirin or steroids or gold shot era with
inflam.arth. Life is good and tomorrow is going to be better.
Harv
Hi Nan,
I have read your posts and was wondering about Enbrel-Remicade-Humira.
Does medicare pay for the remicade and not the enbrel?
Also did your pain go away after using enbrel?
I thought that enbrel was injected into the pain area 4 times a month and
as I read more posts I see it differs in all cases. I am trying to figure
out what is the best solution for my mother who has been in pain for 25
years. This is the first I have heard about enbrel. As a matter of fact I
read it in People magazine. Paula Abdul took enbrel because of chronic
pain. Can anyone else out there tell me about these meds? My mother does
not have any insurance. Will medicare pay for any of this?
Thank you Marilyn
Harvey R. Stone - 18 Aug 2005 14:10 GMT
Hi Marilyn, Welcome to ASA. With an RD's prescription, Yes, Medicare
pays for some of the cost of Remicade and in the future some of Enbrel/
Humira. Your insurance will need to pick up some of the cost of Remicade and
while I receiving the infusions, there was always some expense that my
insurance did not cover but I have a friend that his insurance covers all of
what Medicare does not cover. Soooo, its up to your insurance and
mediocre.
> Hi Nan,
> I have read your posts and was wondering about Enbrel-Remicade-Humira.
> Does medicare pay for the remicade and not the enbrel?
> Also did your pain go away after using enbrel?
For me,,, yes,,,, except for the joints that have already gone too far with
damage. It works very fast for me but for most folks it is a little slower
to work. Its the next day for me but some people show improvement at about
3 months of steady once or twice a week shots.
> I thought that enbrel was injected into the pain area 4 times a month and
> as I read more posts I see it differs in all cases.
No not correct. It is not injected in the pain areas.
I am trying to figure out what is the best solution for my mother who has
been in pain for 25
> years. This is the first I have heard about enbrel. As a matter of fact I
> read it in People magazine. Paula Abdul took enbrel because of chronic
> pain. Can anyone else out there tell me about these meds? My mother does
> not have any insurance. Will medicare pay for any of this?
Enbrel/Humira are about $1400 dollars a month before insurance and Remicade
is about a third more expensive than those.
> Thank you Marilyn
Has a Rheumatologist confirmed that your mother has inflam.arth.???
Harv
Mekkak - 19 Aug 2005 01:08 GMT
Thank you to all that have responded to the question about enbrel,
remicade, and humira. I appreciate it as I as so new to this. I am seeking
advice for my mom who has tried just about everything---including surgery.
I was at the doctors with her yesterday and he called it arthritis. She
has it in her spine. There are some good days for her but mostly bad ones.
I am seeking advice, help from anyone who can tellme whast worked best.
Thank you if you can help
Angela Hooper - 22 Aug 2005 05:00 GMT
in ky where i have my remiced my medcade pays i am fully disabled no
income but ssi and my card.
so the card has been paying my...
i dont know in step i may have to pay co pay of 2.00 but hey thats not
much for me when the card pays the rest
RoseB - 19 Aug 2005 04:08 GMT
>Hi Nan,
>I have read your posts and was wondering about Enbrel-Remicade-Humira.
>Does medicare pay for the remicade and not the enbrel?
I don't know how that works but I believe one has to check with their
own insurance carrier.
>Also did your pain go away after using enbrel?
I was on remicade for five years and had very good results, but then
had reactions so had to stop. I tried arava which made my RA worse,
and then switched to enbrel. The enbrel has been great.
>I thought that enbrel was injected into the pain area 4 times a month and
>as I read more posts I see it differs in all cases.
I don't know of anyone who has injected the enbrel into the painful
areas. Instead you give the injection, as any other, into the hip,
thigh, or tummy area. Typically people inject 25 mgs twice each week,
however there is also now a 50 mg dose that is given once a week.
The efficacy of the two methods is pretty comparable. Some people may
be able to get away with less; but standard dosing is as I have
mentioned.
I am trying to figure
>out what is the best solution for my mother who has been in pain for 25
>years.
What does her Rheumatologist say? He would be the one that would best
be able to determine the course of treatment for her. Has she been on
remicade? Has it stopped working?
This is the first I have heard about enbrel. As a matter of fact I
>read it in People magazine. Paula Abdul took enbrel because of chronic
>pain.
I am curious about that. I had not heard that Paula Abdul had RA.
Because enbrel works at the celular level to supress the TNF, it would
typically not be given unless it were for an immune system disorder
like RA.
Can anyone else out there tell me about these meds? My mother does
>not have any insurance. Will medicare pay for any of this?
Please check for information from the manufacturer.
http://www.enbrel.com/index2.jsp
And here is some additional information from a favorite
rheumatologist:
http://www.arthritis.co.za/enbrel.html
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Mary Z - 20 Aug 2005 00:22 GMT
> Hi Nan,
> I have read your posts and was wondering about Enbrel-Remicade-Humira.
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> out what is the best solution for my mother who has been in pain for 25
> years.
First question and this is critical. Does your mother have osteo
arthritis or Rheumatoid Arthritis or on of the other autoimmune (immune
system caused arthritis) such as Ankylosis Spondylitis (which attacks
the spine)? This is an important question because Enbrel (correct
spelling) is only good for arthritis caused by the immune system.
Remicade is similar to Enbrel but it is a little stronger, for some
people, and medicare will pay for it but only if the person has
autoimmune arthritis. Ask your Doctor if you are unclear about her
diagnosis. It is very important that you are clear on which arthritis
she has since there are about 170 different types, and not all drugs
work for each type. Immune system arthritis is caused by your immune
system which is confused and attacking the joints instead of a germ, be
sure to ask your Dr so you understand the difference. -- MZ
Mary Z - 20 Aug 2005 00:29 GMT
> Paula Abdul took enbrel because of chronic
>pain. Can anyone else out there tell me about these meds? My mother does
>not have any insurance. Will medicare pay for any of this?
Paula Abdul takes Enbrel for RSD, which is immune system related.
Read this article:
http://arthritis.about.com/od/rsd/a/rsd.htm
You need to pinpoint the type of arthritis because ther term
"arthritis" is extremely confusing and covers many different
conditions. The FDA has not approved Enbrel for RSD, so medicare will
not pay for it, and it is extremely expensive about $1,000 per month.
-- MZ
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Mary Z - 20 Aug 2005 00:51 GMT
>Paula Abdul takes Enbrel for RSD, which is immune system related.
Whoops that is incorrect see this website for the correct condition it
is inflammatory arthritis. News media messed up the information.
http://www.rsds.org/5/news/2005/rsdsa%20response.htm
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Angela Hooper - 22 Aug 2005 04:57 GMT
i take remiced every 8 weeks in IV For 3 hours.
its hard dew to the cemo pills to.
i take every sunday night 8 pills drains u.
but stops the pain and i can walk more and move more then i did 6 months
ago.
angela