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Please--Prayers for My Niece
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donnah - 27 Apr 2004 01:38 GMT Folks, I just found out that last night my niece and her friend were attacked as they were walking to Ashley's car after dinner. They are for the most part physically all right...battered, bruised, scratched, etc.. Emotionally they are both in shock. Ashley's own focus is the fact that their screams for help went unheeded...only when she was able to set off the alarm on a nearby car did someone come out to see what was going on and then called the police. The two men got away... Both girls are small (5'3") but strong from years of gymnastics and aerobics...the police feel that is what saved them. They were not in a "bad" part of town, had not flirted with anyone, and these men were not in the restaurant...they jumped out of the bushes already erect and beat the hell out of them while trying to rape them...
Please--would you keep them in your prayers, thoughts, anything that will help them begin to heal?
donnah
RoseB - 27 Apr 2004 02:00 GMT >Please--would you keep them in your prayers, thoughts, anything that >will help them begin to heal? > >donnah You bet! That is ssooo scary. I can not imagine. Rose @}>-->>> Please remove "Ima" to reply privately!
Tina Underwood - 27 Apr 2004 02:11 GMT >>Please--would you keep them in your prayers, thoughts, anything that >>will help them begin to heal? How frightening!!! Sending good thoughts their way!
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JDShine - 27 Apr 2004 02:11 GMT On or about 4/26/2004 8:38 PM, donnah posted the following:
> Folks, I just found out that last night my niece and her friend were > attacked as they were walking to Ashley's car after dinner. > They are for the most part physically all right...battered, bruised, > scratched, etc.. Emotionally they are both in shock. [snip]
> Please--would you keep them in your prayers, thoughts, anything that > will help them begin to heal? > > donnah They will both be in my prayers.
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Alex Barna - 27 Apr 2004 02:27 GMT Sending Good Thoughts, {{{{Ashley & Friend}}}} GramPaHugs, Alex,
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Norman Lampert - 27 Apr 2004 02:32 GMT > Folks, I just found out that last night my niece and her friend were > attacked as they were walking to Ashley's car after dinner. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > donnah Prayers and concern for both of them! Reaction will set in later; and then set in again. May their recoveries be well.
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Gwen Love - 27 Apr 2004 03:07 GMT Norman, thanks for reposting. I had not seen this. Donnah, how terrible for the girls--the attack and then that no one paid attention to their screams. I'm glad they were hurt no worse, but the emotional side of it is going to be so hard on them. Will certainly pry for them. Gwen
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| > Folks, I just found out that last night my niece and her friend were | > attacked as they were walking to Ashley's car after dinner. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] | Reaction will set in later; and then set in again. | May their recoveries be well. Joan Carter - 27 Apr 2004 02:37 GMT >Please--would you keep them in your prayers, thoughts, anything that >will help them begin to heal? Donnah, how horrible. One reads about these things or sees it on TV but it has so much more impact when it happens to someone you know. Although I do not know you, I see you on this list and feel somehow that I do. The girls will need help to get through this, hopefully they will have a knowledgeable person to do this. --- Joan
donnah - 27 Apr 2004 15:28 GMT thank you and they were met by a rape counselor at the hospital... one thing I can't figure out is that they scraped the skin, etc. from under their fingernails...they both did their own share of scratching so had blood and skin debris under their nails. My sister said this morning that they were up most of the night with Ashley until she agreed to take the sedative given to her at the ER....
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> >Please--would you keep them in your prayers, thoughts, anything that > >will help them begin to heal? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > --- > Joan Walt Hanks - 27 Apr 2004 15:49 GMT > thank you and they were met by a rape counselor at the hospital... > one thing I can't figure out is that they scraped the skin, etc. from > under their fingernails...they both did their own share of scratching > so had blood and skin debris under their nails. See my previous reply, but I'll add that blood type, race, and other characteristics that can narrow the search can also be attained from these samples.
> My sister said this morning that they were up most of the night with > Ashley until she agreed to take the sedative given to her at the > ER.... > > donnah I hope she will continue to see the counselor. It is essential.
They will continue to be in my prayers.
Walt
Tina Underwood - 27 Apr 2004 17:16 GMT >> thank you and they were met by a rape counselor at the hospital... Make sure they keep going as needed. A friend of mine was raped and left for dead by a man that had raped and killed several area girls, including another friend. The guy turned out to be someone we all knew and I wouldn't have hesitated at the time to get in a car with him. Anyways, he was convicted and is on death row beacuse of her testimony. She managed to put it all behind her is now a mommy and orthopedic surgeon. So your neice can recover and move on with the right help.
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donnah - 27 Apr 2004 21:33 GMT KJ, thank you for sharing that with me. Ashley seems to be more focused right now on why their screams were ignored but a car alarm brought help...but that may be her way of channeling her anger and the tons of things she is feeling right now. and the rest of the family is wondering the same thing. donnah
> >> thank you and they were met by a rape counselor at the hospital... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Tina's Togs Quality Plus Size and Vintage Fashions > http://www.stores.ebay.com/tinastogs donnah - 27 Apr 2004 21:28 GMT thanks, Walt... I've been through this trauma myself and know the importance of counseling so I will encourage her to continue. donnah
> > thank you and they were met by a rape counselor at the hospital... > > one thing I can't figure out is that they scraped the skin, etc. from [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Walt Caroline Marold - 27 Apr 2004 19:39 GMT Police will be looking for scratch individuals and the tissue scrapings from under the nails will yield DNA. I watch way to much CSI. Duckie
> thank you and they were met by a rape counselor at the hospital... > one thing I can't figure out is that they scraped the skin, etc. from [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > donnah DCHAM - 27 Apr 2004 02:55 GMT donnah, how horrible and what brave young women. prayers on their way.
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ShenMei9 - 27 Apr 2004 03:55 GMT Blessing for all the girls.
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Dana - 27 Apr 2004 09:50 GMT > Blessing for all the girls. > > m donnah, Sorry to hear about this horrible incident. May the girls both have a speedy recovery. Sending my prayers. Dana
Cindy - 27 Apr 2004 12:41 GMT How terrible for these young girls...It is such a horrible feeling for all of you. My daughter was a taxi driver. She was robbed a few times, but about two months ago, she was beat pretty badly and knocked out. The thieves then took alot of parts from her car and all the money she had. So I know what a sick feeling you have in the pit of your stomach... My prayers to you all. Hugs Cindy
Gwen Love - 28 Apr 2004 03:07 GMT Oh Cindy, I'm so sorry about your daughter's very serious attack. How is she doing now? Gwen
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| How terrible for these young girls...It is such a horrible feeling for all | of you. My daughter was a taxi driver. She was robbed a few times, but about [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | My prayers to you all. | Hugs Cindy Nann Bell - 27 Apr 2004 12:45 GMT > Please--would you keep them in your prayers, thoughts, anything that > will help them begin to heal? Absolutely will do so. Thank goodness they were so strong and were able to set off the car alarm. It may take a while to work through such a frightening incident. They will be in my prayers.
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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 27 Apr 2004 14:59 GMT How awful. Prayers on the way....and will be for some time to come.
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> Folks, I just found out that last night my niece and her friend were > attacked as they were walking to Ashley's car after dinner. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > donnah Carole - 27 Apr 2004 21:00 GMT Hi Donnah,
I missed the original post, but just saw this one.
I am so sorry to hear this! And no, they didn't do anything wrong, and I hope people tell them that. So often, people think that the victims must have done something to provoke the attack, and that is totally unfounded. Those guys were obviously waiting for someone to walk by. I am sorry that they got away, but perhaps the police will be able to find them.
I will pray for your niece and her friend and I do hope they will consider speaking to a counselor. I will also pray that the police find those men before they attack again.
Hugs, Carole
> How awful. Prayers on the way....and will be for some time to come. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> >>donnah donnah - 28 Apr 2004 01:02 GMT thanks, Carole... and what is happening with you? I am not getting a lot of posts--well, some days I get almost 50, others maybe 23...sigh, the joys of computers! donnah
> Hi Donnah, > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >> > >>donnah Caroline Marold - 28 Apr 2004 06:30 GMT There were nearly 190 this morning when I logged on which is the most there have been in a long long time. And one porn site got by the German group. First time I have seen that. Duckie
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> thanks, Carole... > and what is happening with you? I am not getting a lot of posts--well, > some days I get almost 50, others maybe 23...sigh, the joys of > computers! > donnah Carole - 28 Apr 2004 16:08 GMT Hi Donnah,
Yea, something strange has been going on with posts the past few days. I'm experiencing the same thing you are.
I had another interview yesterday. In the middle of it, we had this horrendous storm with lightning, thunder, insane winds, and heavy rain! It was rather distracting, but the interview went well. I was there for a little over an hour and a half. They will make a decision by May 15th. So now it's the sit and wait thing again :) I still haven't heard from the other job. I do hope they send out a letter even if it's a nay because at least then you know where you stand. I have so many people praying that I'm sure by now God must be getting tired of it all and will tell one of these schools to give me a job just to shut everyone up
:) (I firmly believe that God has a wonderful sense of humor :) On another note, I found a wonderful church out here. I started going there a couple of weeks ago, and it's alive and they have a contemporary choir that's amazing. I'm thinking about joining :)
I'll keep you all posted, don't worry :)
Carole
> thanks, Carole... > and what is happening with you? I am not getting a lot of posts--well, > some days I get almost 50, others maybe 23...sigh, the joys of > computers! > donnah donnah - 28 Apr 2004 18:39 GMT thanks for the update, Carole... and prayers are continuing--and, we always make the same joke about God getting tired of so many praying for the same thing that He "gives in" <grin!> donnah
> Hi Donnah, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > computers! > > donnah Squirrely - 29 Apr 2004 00:58 GMT Carole,
Wishing you the best of luck with your interview and that you get the job.
I know God does have a wonderful sense of humor. I was saying I needed a vacation. I did not specify, I found out you have to specify if you say you want something. I ended up with my vacation, flat on my back for a month. My back went out so bad. I had to have my one son crawl in bed and hold my back, (this is with a back brace on) just so I could get out of bed to go potty. I could not even get out of bed without someone supporting my back. So I learned quick, if I ever want a vacation, I will specify what kind of vacation I want and where. ;-)
I am glad you found a wonderful church. That is great.
Hugs and getting job hugs coming to you.
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> Hi Donnah, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > computers! > > donnah Carole - 29 Apr 2004 07:52 GMT Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear about your back! I pulled something in my back once and I never want to do that again. I couldn't move for almost a week. I do hope you are doing better now. And next time you want a vacation, specify: Hi God, I want a week on a tropical island, with Chippendales to pour suntan oil on my back and bring me pina coladas in coconut shells with a straw :) Now THAT'S a vacation :))))))
I'll keep you posted on the job search. My friend in NY swears that I'm going to get both jobs and then have to make a decision :-)) I should be so lucky!
Carole :)
> Carole, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Hugs and getting job hugs coming to you. Squirrely - 29 Apr 2004 08:56 GMT Carole,
I hope that does happen that you get both jobs. It would be nice to be able to chose the one you want then.
Good luck.
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> Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear about your back! I pulled something in my > back once and I never want to do that again. I couldn't move for almost [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Carole :) donnah - 27 Apr 2004 21:35 GMT thanks, DeeTee...I think she is going to need every one of them. donnah
> How awful. Prayers on the way....and will be for some time to come. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > donnah Adelle D. Stavis, Esq. - 27 Apr 2004 15:11 GMT How absolutely awful! Prayers for both.
And even though they defended themselves and were ultimately 'rescued', they should get in contact with the rape crisis people. A lot of attempted rape victims don't, feeling that since they weren't actually raped, they either don't need it or aren't entitled to it. But the post traumatic effects can last for a long time, and the people at the rape crisis number have the training that is most relevant here.
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> Folks, I just found out that last night my niece and her friend were > attacked as they were walking to Ashley's car after dinner. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > donnah Squirrely - 27 Apr 2004 18:18 GMT Oh This is terrible Donnah, I will be holding them up in prayers. This is so scary and something now that has scarred them and they will live with fear for along time now. I feel for them so much.
Tell them my heart goes out to them. I know the feeling. I have been molested and then later in teens years came close to a rape myself. It would be good if they got counseling for it to help them thru the rough spots.
Sending love and hugs.
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> Folks, I just found out that last night my niece and her friend were > attacked as they were walking to Ashley's car after dinner. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > donnah Patty - 27 Apr 2004 19:03 GMT How awful, Donna! Sending lots of healing prayers to Ashley and her friend. ------------- Hoping your hills are never too steep! Be well, Patty
Caroline Marold - 27 Apr 2004 19:36 GMT Prayers on the way. How very scary. Hope the police were able to get a decent description of these two -- they should not be left on the street. Duckie
> Folks, I just found out that last night my niece and her friend were > attacked as they were walking to Ashley's car after dinner. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > donnah
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donnah - 27 Apr 2004 21:40 GMT Duckie, they did give a good description to the police...and found out that these two ROs fit the description in FOUR other attacks--two of which were successful. and there has been nothing on the news about any of these attacks! not that it would have prevented it, but who knows? don't we have the right to know so we can be better prepared/learn how to protect ourselves... sorry, but the more I find out, the madder I am! donnah
> Prayers on the way. How very scary. Hope the police were able to get a > decent description of these two -- they should not be left on the street. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > > donnah Lady K - 27 Apr 2004 22:10 GMT >Duckie, they did give a good description to the police...and found out >that these two ROs fit the description in FOUR other attacks--two of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >sorry, but the more I find out, the madder I am! >donnah What a dreadful experience! My thoughts and prayers are winging their way, with hopes that the b*stards will be caught and punished!
Kitt
Caroline Marold - 28 Apr 2004 06:28 GMT Makes you want to call the tv and newspapers... Wish the police had bothered to tell BIL why they had not shared this. Reminds me of my college years when we were attacked after the movie by a gang and were told to tell no one. In Locus Parentus [phonic spelling of latin] was still in vogue but still... Duckie
> Duckie, they did give a good description to the police...and found out > that these two ROs fit the description in FOUR other attacks--two of [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >>> >>>donnah
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debbie m. - 27 Apr 2004 22:44 GMT Donna,
Just glad to hear they are safe and it didn't go any furthur.
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> Folks, I just found out that last night my niece and her friend were > attacked as they were walking to Ashley's car after dinner. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > donnah
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