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Linda Tribout - 16 Jan 2004 10:56 GMT
Hi everyone.  I have been having problems with neuropathy (woke up from
burning pain in leg tonight).  Neuropathy can cause pain, tingling and
numbness.  I swing between numbness and burning pain. I am trying to
figure out what caused it.  Has anyone had this problem while on anti-TNF
inhibitors?  It can also be caused by Vitamin B-12 deficiency or simply as
another autoimmune disease (my doctor's diagnosis}.

Since I've had RA for 35 years and this hasn't happened before, I can't
help but think it might be related to Enbrel/Humira.  I'm also  leaning
toward B-12 deficiency since I haven't been getting my B-12 shots as
regularly since my most recent compression fracture.

I would appreciate hearing from others who have experienced this problem.

Thanks,

Linda
Char - 16 Jan 2004 14:58 GMT
> I have been having problems with neuropathy

Linda-In my family, we have something called familial neuropathy.  I dont have
it, but my brother does.

So there are more causes than the ones you listed.  And they may never be able
to pinpoint it.

Good luck.
Char

"Remember, I'm pulling for ya'. We're all in this together." Red Green
Linda Tribout - 16 Jan 2004 15:55 GMT
> > I have been having problems with neuropathy
>
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>
> "Remember, I'm pulling for ya'. We're all in this together." Red Green

Thanks Char,

I only came up with those three in my 3 AM research, but I was googling
"Neuropathy + possibilities I could think of".  I don't know anyone in my
family who has had this problem, don't know of anyone having RA either,
but it could be a generation or two away.  Don't you think I should
probably see a neurologist to find the cause instead of taking my RD's
diagnosis for granted?

I hope you're doing okay thee days.

Linda
Char - 16 Jan 2004 23:59 GMT
> Don't you think I should
>probably see a neurologist to find the cause instead of taking my RD's
>diagnosis for granted?

If that is what it is going to take, to make you feel OK about this, then by
all means see a Neurologist.

It is all about you being satified with your medical care.
Char

"Remember, I'm pulling for ya'. We're all in this together." Red Green
Linda Tribout - 17 Jan 2004 00:28 GMT
> > Don't you think I should
> >probably see a neurologist to find the cause instead of taking my RD's
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> It is all about you being satified with your medical care.
> Char

Well, at 3:00 a.m. things seem a lot scarier than in the morning after
sleeping, but he did once diagnose me with a fungus when it turned out I
was having an allergic reaction to Arava.  Antifungal medication did not
help so I asked a doctor friend, and he said it was an allergic reaction
and prescribed large, but decreasing, doses of prednisone which cleared it
up.  I spent a week of unbearable itching all over my stomach because of
the misdiagnosis.  He is supposed to be a good RD, so I guess he should be
better able to diagnose an autoimmune disease than a skin rash.  I think I
need a neurologist anyway because ever since my fourth compression
fracture 4 months ago, I have sciatica so bad I can't walk more than 50
feet.  I hope a neurologist can do something.  Prednisone for RA caused my
osteoporosis.  Thank heavens I am now taking Forteo (parathyroid hormone),
which builds bone back to the normal level for most people (per my
doctor).

I'm sorry to be venting but I've had a bad the couple of years, and I've
been feeling discouraged.On Monday morning, I woke up in so much pain I
felt like shooting myself, but called my doctor and asked for Humira, and
I'm feeling better after the first shot two days ago.

Thanks for listening .

Linda
Specialsearcher - 17 Jan 2004 03:30 GMT
"Prednisone for RA caused my
osteoporosis. "

Its funny you say that. Me and my brother have arthritis; I have sought
treatment, my brother has not. Although my arthritis is better, I now have so
much more medical problems than before. My brother does not have any other
additional health problems. I can't help but wonder if my additional health
problems were a result of my arthritis treatment.

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/05/hosp_infections

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Primetime/Living/schaap031023-1.html

http://www.msnbc.com/news/992470.asp?0si=-&cp1=1

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/23/60minutes/main579657.shtml
Linda Tribout - 17 Jan 2004 04:41 GMT
> "Prednisone for RA caused my
> osteoporosis. "
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> additional health problems. I can't help but wonder if my additional health
> problems were a result of my arthritis treatment.

It's well-known that prednisone can cause bone loss.  You might want to
research your medications or ask your pharmacist for complete information
on them to see if you are having side effects.  What are you taking for
arthritis?  Immunosuppressants, of course, can cause more infections,
among other things.  If you think your medications are causing other
problems, you should talk to your doctor about it.

Linda
Donnah - 17 Jan 2004 13:47 GMT
wOw...you go girl!!
donnah

> > "Prednisone for RA caused my
> > osteoporosis. "
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>
> Linda
Specialsearcher - 18 Jan 2004 00:50 GMT
>What are you taking for
>arthritis?  

Nothing right now; but over the years, I've used various steroids and epidurals
of sorts...

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/05/hosp_infections

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Primetime/Living/schaap031023-1.html

http://www.msnbc.com/news/992470.asp?0si=-&cp1=1

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/23/60minutes/main579657.shtml
Char - 17 Jan 2004 06:37 GMT
> I can't help but wonder if my additional health
>problems were a result of my arthritis treatment.

You and your brother have arthritis, doesnt begin to cover it.  Do you have the
same form of arthritis?  There are over 170 different diseases and conditions
that fall under that general heading.

Treatments that are available to treat inflammatory arthritis CAN cause
additional health problems, but that is why we are monitored so closely.  To
stop them before they really get started.

But very often people with one autoimmune disease have others as well.

I dont think your additional health problems can be blamed on being treated for
arthritis, but that is only my opinion.  But an educated opinion.
Char

"Remember, I'm pulling for ya'. We're all in this together." Red Green
Specialsearcher - 18 Jan 2004 00:56 GMT
>Do you have the
>same form of arthritis?

Well, our symptoms were very much the same... I don't know for sure though, he
does not go to doctors...

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/05/hosp_infections

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Primetime/Living/schaap031023-1.html

http://www.msnbc.com/news/992470.asp?0si=-&cp1=1

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/23/60minutes/main579657.shtml
Tina Underwood - 18 Jan 2004 04:55 GMT
>Well, our symptoms were very much the same... I don't know for sure though,
>he
>does not go to doctors...

What type of arthritis do you have?

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Specialsearcher - 18 Jan 2004 11:52 GMT
"What type of arthritis do you have?"

The doctor believes its a form Ankylosing Spondylitis.

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/05/hosp_infections

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Primetime/Living/schaap031023-1.html

http://www.msnbc.com/news/992470.asp?0si=-&cp1=1

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/23/60minutes/main579657.shtml
Sooky Grumper - 18 Jan 2004 12:30 GMT
>>Do you have the
>>same form of arthritis?

If you're not identical twins, then your assumptions are probably unfounded.

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Donnah - 17 Jan 2004 13:46 GMT
because you are related does not mean you will have the same reactions,
problems, or outcomes...
unless you share the same body and brain...
donnah

> "Prednisone for RA caused my
> osteoporosis. "
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>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/23/60minutes/main579657.shtml
Donnah - 17 Jan 2004 13:45 GMT
(((Linda)))
oh...try and hang tough! we are here for you...
donnah

> > > Don't you think I should
> > >probably see a neurologist to find the cause instead of taking my RD's
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>
> Linda
Harvey R. Stone - 16 Jan 2004 15:25 GMT
How have your blood sugar readings been?

Harv

> Hi everyone.  I have been having problems with neuropathy (woke up from
> burning pain in leg tonight).  Neuropathy can cause pain, tingling and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Linda
Linda Tribout - 16 Jan 2004 16:04 GMT
> How have your blood sugar readings been?
>
> Harv

Hi Harv,

I had a diabetes test done a few weeks ago and was told I don't have that.
I did read last night that diabetes could cause neuropathy, but discarded
that possibility because of recent tests.  I'm not really sure the doctor
was right, of course.  I don't know why I can't take what they say as
positively right.  I guess because I don't think doctors are infallible.
and my RD came up with autoimmune neuropathy without any type of testing.

Thanks for answering my post.  I hope you are doing well thes days.

Linda
Harvey R. Stone - 17 Jan 2004 00:15 GMT
> Thanks for answering my post.  I hope you are doing well thes days.
>
> Linda

Hi Linda,    I am doing pretty well for a guy that is 65 and has had RA
since he was 38.  :-)  Your problem really needs answers.   Pinched
nerves,,,swelling pressure,,,,MS and others.  Neuropathy can cause muscles
to waste.   None of this can go on and on without a price.   Please see your
doctor and get good answers to stop the worry.

Harv
Linda Tribout - 17 Jan 2004 00:45 GMT
> > Thanks for answering my post.  I hope you are doing well thes days.
> >
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>
> Harv

Thanks for your support Harv.  I'm glad you are doing pretty well.  I too
will be 65 in June with many years of RA behind me  I'm hoping to be doing
pretty good on Humira by then.

Linda
Donnah - 17 Jan 2004 13:48 GMT
(((Harv)))
Dad's RA started in his late thirties, also...a long and hard battle isn't
it?
donnah

> > Thanks for answering my post.  I hope you are doing well thes days.
> >
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>
> Harv
North - 22 Jan 2004 04:26 GMT
Harvey,
What do you recommend that I should do ?  I just turned 30 this month.
I have RA, Neuropathy, Chronic Daily Migraines, Cysts 1 on each ovary
every month that about kill me, Fibromyalgia, and Myofascial pain. I
have had the RA,  since I was 12 yrs. old, only it never got found out
about till, the end of last year.   My Neurologist has me seeing a PT
person, him, he is setting an app. up to see a  RA doctor, and I'm
seeing a  Gyn.  They are having trouble trying to treat me. I'm very
sensitive to medications. I'm on 1800 mgs of Neurontin a day, which
the only thing thats doing is helping my mood. I'm on Bextra, 20 mgs.
a daay  {which we cant afford} Medicade doesn't want to approve it.  I
take Phenerghan for my nausea. Clonazapam  0.5 mgs. at night for
depression {is not helping}. Am being  given  Lortab for pain {ha } is
not helping my pain, my pain is so intense so like up in the hundreds.
Am afraid to ask for anything stronger.  It's just  I'm tired of
hurting so bad. I have 3 children the oldest will turn 13 this August,
the middle chils is 9 will turn 10 in July, and my youngest  just
turned 8 a couple of days b4 Christmas. I cant do things with them
bcause I'm hurting  too bad. Sorry so long.
Take care,
migraine momma

>> Thanks for answering my post.  I hope you are doing well thes days.
>>
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>
>Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 22 Jan 2004 12:34 GMT
> Harvey,
> What do you recommend that I should do ?

Hi Linda,    Please continue to read and post here where you will find
several people that that dealt with everything you have listed.    Continue
to see you doctors making sure that they all know what the other is doing
and what you are taking.   With a working husband and children just keeping
going and doing to keep their lives together is a big job and they may not
understand what you are dealing with.   Please try to stay positive and
doing what you can do for yourself and talking about it here.

Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 22 Jan 2004 12:37 GMT
> Harvey,
> What do you recommend that I should do ?

Ps,,,, Sorry I listed your name as Linda,,,MM but there was two or three
people in your post.
North - 22 Jan 2004 22:33 GMT
Thats okay Harvey, I have gotten mixed up on this thing too b4. Thanks
for your advice.  Am having a hard time staying positive, I hurt all
the time.  :(
Take care,
migraine momma

>> Harvey,
>> What do you recommend that I should do ?
>
>Ps,,,, Sorry I listed your name as Linda,,,MM but there was two or three
>people in your post.
Janice Bolick - 16 Jan 2004 20:38 GMT
Linda
I have neuropathy very bad in my feet but have been diagnoised as diabetic
and they have decided that is the cause of mine. I am taking neurontin for
this but it doesnt make it go away completly
hope you start feeling better soon!~!
janice

> Hi everyone.  I have been having problems with neuropathy (woke up from
> burning pain in leg tonight).  Neuropathy can cause pain, tingling and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Linda
Linda Tribout - 16 Jan 2004 23:51 GMT
> Linda
> I have neuropathy very bad in my feet but have been diagnoised as diabetic
> and they have decided that is the cause of mine. I am taking neurontin for
> this but it doesnt make it go away completly
> hope you start feeling better soon!~!
> janice

Thanks for your good wishes, Janice.  I'm glad to hear you are taking
something that helps, but sorry you have this problem as well as diabetes
and arthritis.  Thanks for telling me about Neurontin.

Linda
North - 22 Jan 2004 04:31 GMT
Janice,
I have it throughout my body. It is the worst in my
arms,legs,hands,and feet. Wish you the best.
migraine momma  

>Linda
>I have neuropathy very bad in my feet but have been diagnoised as diabetic
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>>
>> Linda
North - 22 Jan 2004 04:09 GMT
Hi Linda, I have been diagnosed with having Neuropathy as well. I am
only 30 , and have RA {since the age of 12] only it did not get found
out about, untill  the very end o last year. I don't really do good
with a vitamin intake. Could have a little to do with it.  What is
anti-TFN ?  I'm not on any Embrel. I had the problems/  symptoms b4
even being put   on anything for the RA. But I was already put on the
Neurontin b4 I had the Neuropathy issue arise.
I wish you the best.
migraine momma

>Hi everyone.  I have been having problems with neuropathy (woke up from
>burning pain in leg tonight).  Neuropathy can cause pain, tingling and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Linda
Linda Tribout - 23 Jan 2004 00:33 GMT
Hi MM,

I was wondering if Enbrel (Anti-tumor-necrosis factor) could have played a
part in my Neuropathy since I had read it could cause demyelination of
nerves as a side effect.  I didn't have Neuropathy before taking it.  I
guess it was just a coincidence, though, since so many people have the
Autoimmune Neuropathy along with the RA.  Enbrel is one of the newer
Disease Modifying Drugs.

I'm sorry to hear you are having so many problems.  I'm glad you will be
seeing an RD to get some help.  It is hard to raise a family when you have
RA.  My children were 3 and 1 when I was diagnosed.  Hopefully, a
rheumatologist will be able to get your symptoms under control.  There are
many good treatments for RA now.  Good Luck!

Linda

> Hi Linda, I have been diagnosed with having Neuropathy as well. I am
> only 30 , and have RA {since the age of 12] only it did not get found
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> >Since I've had RA for 35 years and this hasn't happened before, I can't
> >help but think it might be related to Enbrel/Humira.  I'm also  leaning

> >toward B-12 deficiency since I haven't been getting my B-12 shots as
> >regularly since my most recent compression fracture.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> >
> >Linda
North - 23 Jan 2004 18:35 GMT
Hi Linda,
I dont know  if it could have played a part in that or not. I do know
that my M-in-Law has Neuropathy, and she uses Embrel. If she did not
use the Embrel she  would not be able to even get out of bed. She has
many medical problems , far more than I.  I cant remember if she had
the N. before taking the Embrel. Damn Migraine trying to kick me hard.
Will have to go lay down or something.  
Thank you. Im glad Im gonna see a RD doc too.   Yes very hard to raise
a family like this.  I hope they will too. My gosh,  how did you do
it?  I mean with your childred that little.
Thanks again Linda, Take care,
MM

>Hi MM,
>
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>> >
>> >Linda
Julieg0826 - 27 Nov 2006 05:09 GMT
Hi Linda,

I can't believe that I found you... I have had neuopathy symptoms (tingling
and numbness plus cold hand and feet for the past 3 months.  I have had RA
for 15 yrs and have been on Embrel then Remacade (stopped do to cost and
insurance) then back to Embrel which worked for 3 more yrs then 4 months ago
it stopped working and I was switched to Humira 2 months ago (no relief).  

I also had a 3 amalgam fillings replaced right before my symptoms appeared.
I asked my Dr. and dentist about the possibility of toxic metal poisoning,
from the mercury in the fillings, causing these symptoms too and he basically
poo-poo'd me.  

I hate to hear that you too are having these symptoms but at least I am not
crazy for thinking that it may be the meds too.  

I am going back to my doctor Tues and will insist on a test for heavy metal
toxins.  Heavy metals can cause neurologial symptoms too. I've gone off the
TNF meds and am on Prednizone for now to control swelling.  

If I find out someting I will be sure to let you know. In the mean time, I
feel your pain.

Julie

>Hi everyone.  I have been having problems with neuropathy (woke up from
>burning pain in leg tonight).  Neuropathy can cause pain, tingling and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Linda
 
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