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shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 14 Jul 2008 22:35 GMT I hate to bring something this mundane to this group but i am just two weeks away from being homeless and i need prayers that I find a house. I live in an area where even rental prices are going up. A studio here is going for 1500.00 and a 2 bedroom apartment for 2000.00. I am finding just horrifying crap for this much money. I am also competing with the students who are all looking for housing. You would think that my housing karma would be good as I have opened my house always to people who have needed it, but alas, I think this karma thing is not quite that linear.
I think after my little five month stint of being homeless in 2006, this is by biggest fear. This time it is worse because of the air quality from the fires makes even camping in my van impossible and I really feel like I have to be centered to be able to continue doing support work for our first responders.
So I would love prayers for finding an affordable home. Barring that, any of you who live someplace affordable that isn't burning, talk me into moving <g>! And since I am in an asking mode, a few prayers that these fires get under control and for our wonderful fire fighters would also be appreciated.
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Jofirey - 14 Jul 2008 22:45 GMT >I hate to bring something this mundane to this group but i am just >two [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > m Well, I don't need to be asked regarding prayers for fire control and for firefighters.
Our biggest smoke producer may be contained by August 31. Note, that doesn't mean out. Just that it is confined to a specific area.
Housing around here isn't as high as the rest of the state. But I don't think you'd be interested. We will be in smoke until it rains.
Lots of prayers on the way for the housing situation. I can only imagine that the usual nightmare rental market in your area is a thousand times worse than usual right now.
Jo
ANN M - 15 Jul 2008 00:40 GMT I've been praying for you right along M. and will continue. There is an affordable place for you I'm sure. It just hasn't made itself clear to you yet. Ann
Di - 15 Jul 2008 01:00 GMT > I've been praying for you right along M. and will continue. There is an > affordable place for you I'm sure. It just hasn't made itself clear to > you yet. > Ann If you need to travel across country for a place to stay, you've always got one at my house. It's a tiny apartment that I share with two cats, but for you, girl, my door is open.
I'm pulling for you, M. You don't deserve this. That apartment karma is just trying to catch up with you, I'm sure.
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shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 08:18 GMT > In article <11065-487BE3D0-2...@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>, ann1...@webtv.net > says...> I've been praying for you right along M. and will continue. There is an [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Di > zinkadoodle at gmail dot comwww.dustydogdigital.com Well Di, that would be very very fun! Can we just compromise and head off to arizona?
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Di - 16 Jul 2008 01:33 GMT > > In article <11065-487BE3D0-2...@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>, ann1...@webtv.net > > says...> I've been praying for you right along M. and will continue. There is an [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > m In search of the Great, and greatly missed Johnie. Oh wait.... he lives in NM. Boy, do I wish........
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lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com - 16 Jul 2008 03:19 GMT > In article <f71858c7-55d2-45da-9fea-e48c1c862...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, > shenmei9w...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Di > zinkadoodle at gmail dot comwww.dustydogdigital.com Well Johnie is an asset (definitely Arizona though-he lives in Oracle right outside of Tuscon) but it is more than that....I love open spaces and spectacular beauty. I love living in a place where I own the night sky-oh I forgot-the coyotes and i own the night sky! I love walking out my door in the morning and knowing that the land I will soon be seeing is not subtle. It just insists in a way know only to toddlers and red rock mountains that I look at IT. I love the fact that the desert smells of sage and rain and that every single cycle is in my face-sunset, sunrise, lunar waxing and waining, solstices and equinoxes. I never for one minute forget the Mother and Father-the earth and the sky. I love paying tribute to the earth-there is such a mutual respect that comes when your land can take your life during the summer months if you do not pay attention and I always pay attention....I love watching the lightening come streaking across the sky for miles and miles and then watching the clouds open up and just pour...I love that in two hours it will be sunny again....mostly I love night, something central coast Californians know nothing about. It is cold for us at night-the rare night when it is warm is just stunning....I love counting shooting stars....I love the drama that can only come in the desert. I love that I not only write poetry in the desert but I almost speak poetry. I love that the spirits of the old ones still live there. It is a photographer's dream, a writer's muse and a dreamer's song....
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DianeChamberlain100@gmail.com - 16 Jul 2008 05:03 GMT that was beautiful, M! now i can't picture you living anywhere else. definitely not in NC. i love being closed in by tall trees and lots of green--just the opposite of what you love. we should all be lucky enough to live someplace we love.
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Di - 16 Jul 2008 11:59 GMT > > In search of the Great, and greatly missed Johnie. Oh wait.... he lives in NM. > > Boy, do I wish........ [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > m I sure can see you going nuts in a city. And, I know exactly what you mean. For me, it's the ocean. I love the sound of the waves, the smell of the sea, the shorebirds feeding their young and fighting for juxtaposition as the waves come in. I love the white sand with the purple garnet patches that feel like talc between your toes. I love the beach peas, beach grass, beach heather, the hollies and pines. I love the singing song birds, and the chattering woodpeckers.
I've never spent any time in a desert, be it high or low, but I have visited some desert environments for short times. Albuquerque has an almost foreign feel to my eastern blood. It's rocky, dry and subltly beautiful. I spent a few hours in Petroglyphs National Monument, climbed to the top of the steep trail, and looked around at a gorgeous view. The top was a sacred place for the Native Americans, and I could see why. I took images, but found it impossible to capture that beauty. It was boldy graphic and stunning there, but also very subtle and small. Some don't know if the rocks are truly sacred works, or instead merely ancient grafitti. Either way, they depict a culture long gone, and thet saddened me somewhat. Where did they go? Why? Did Europeans drive them off?
Same for the Grand Canyon and its surroundings. There was a great culture there, and now it's totally gone, having left mere traces and cryptic messages of its presence. The west is an acient place. The east is more green, more ocean, more ephemeral. The ocean has only stories, some wrecked ships that poke out of the sand at times, but nothing of a native culture. I think the native Americans knew to keep their main dwellings off a barrier island.
Barrier islands come and go. It's only since the arrogant white settlers with lots of money and the desire to kill every whale that passed by decided to settle and make this place "permanent". Now, we fight a political battle trying to maintain a naturally shifting shoreline while houses and their inhabitants fight to stabilize, and in my opinion, ruin what was once so beautiful about his place. Sure, the communities are fun. But, it's a very selfish, very self serving, very arrogant, and very uneducated fun. But, with big money burning holes in your pockets, you can afford to be arrogant and selfish. I cannot. I'm just a government hump, a working stiff, trying to maintain some kind of balance between these competing interestes, Man and Nature. I've been doing it my entire career, the last 18 years iwth the park service, and it's wearing me down to a nub.
Geez, Melinda, you really got me started. Just know that if you're ever out this way, and if you ever need a place to stay, my door is always open to you. Always. As for Johnie, now that you mention Tuscon, I remember that he'd said that. For some reason, I was thinking Taos. I sure wish he'd pop into ASA for a visit. Wouldn't that be something?
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Nann Bell - 16 Jul 2008 14:20 GMT > Barrier islands come and go. It's only since the arrogant white settlers > with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > inhabitants fight to stabilize, and in my opinion, ruin what was once so > beautiful about his place. Oh, boy, don't get me started! I grew up in Florida back in the days when the only thing youbuilt on the barrier islands were what I call "Florida Funky" style places. You KNEW they'd be blown away by a hurricane one day, so you didn't invest too much. You just wanted a place to sleep without the bugs getting in - and maybe the ability to close it off on cool nights. Now I hear people whining about not being able to insure multi-million dollar places that they never should have been allowed to build in that location. And all those trailer parks full of retirees on the coast who didn't think about hurricanes when they bought - and now can't get insurance because of that. At the least FULL disclosure of the risks should hvae been required. But I'd best step off the soap box before I wear out my already aching fingers! lol
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Di - 22 Jul 2008 03:14 GMT > > Barrier islands come and go. It's only since the arrogant white settlers > > with [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > But I'd best step off the soap box before I wear out my already aching > fingers! lol Full disclosure is a concept that is heartily fought off by real estate agents and sellers. There's money to be made in duping people. But, the taxpayer ends up with the tab. Sucks........
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Nann Bell - 25 Jul 2008 14:38 GMT > Full disclosure is a concept that is heartily fought off by real estate > agents > and sellers. There's money to be made in duping people. But, the taxpayer > ends up with the tab. Sucks........ Ain't it the truth? Let the real estate folks make their buck, then take it away from everyone to pay for the inevitable damages. And now folks with modest homes inland are paying incredible insurance rates because of the high risk places right on the coast.
In my perversity, I was really irked at Hurricane Andrew for hitting the lower income, more modestly housed Homestead, FL instead of whallopping the foolishly built Miami Beach. And the Gulf Coast suffering from Katrina is a subject I'd best leave alone.
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Nann Bell - 16 Jul 2008 14:20 GMT ah, you have an appreciation for the desert I've never learned. I'm a mountain & forest girl myself. Fortunately, I married a mountain & forest guy. I understand the peace you find in the dessert as that is what we find in the out in the mountains, especially mildly isolated camping in our tent. (I still like flush toilets & access to showers, but not RVs all over the place!) Even photos bring some of that peace home to me - that's probably why I've belonged to the Southern Appalachian Highlands Conservancy for over 20 years, since I lived in Asheville. We're thinking now that retirement will probably be in the Boone, NC area..........
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> Well Johnie is an asset (definitely Arizona though-he lives in Oracle > right outside of Tuscon) but it is more than that....I love open [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > m shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 08:21 GMT > <shenmei9w...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Jo Jo, which fire is the closest to you? I had people come down from Chico last weekend to stay just to get away from the smoke. Remnd me again why we live in California?
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Jofirey - 15 Jul 2008 16:03 GMT >> <shenmei9w...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > m Me? Because my uncle was once posted as the pastor of a church in Paradise. Back in the fifties when I was an impressionable child.
He wrote a letter to my grandmother in which he said it truly was the 'land of milk and honey', a biblical reference to the promised land.
Over the years many family members joined him, usually settling either in Loma Linda or St Helena. He ended up in St Helena. With a home right by a large vineyard that ran up to the foothills of the mountains. When the Air Force gave us a choice of last assignment here or Florida, I based it on his letter.
The Butte County lightening complex is about thirty miles north as the smoke flies. The Yuba River complex roughly the same distance north east, and the American River complex just a valley south of that.
We watched the Yuba River Complex start, though we didn't know it at the time. The thunder clouds were amazing. We happened to be up there on our way home from Reno with it started.
I've warned the family, one of these Smokey days I'm throwing the dog in the back of the car and heading for the coast. Anyone who happens to be home at the time is welcome to come with me.
Today doesn't look too bad, you can't stare directly at the sun.
Jo
lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 16:25 GMT > <shenmei9w...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > > Jo Jo, until the 30th, I still have a bed and breakfast unit and I quit taking reservations so it will be completely vacant from the 18th until then.
So head on over and you have a place to stay. This is not an air kiss offer.
m
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 15 Jul 2008 01:28 GMT Not mundane at all, M. This is very important and certainly needs to be a big part of our prayers from now until you find just the right place that you can afford. Have been praying about the fires and for all the firefighters. Another group left from Alabama yesterday. Gwen
I hate to bring something this mundane to this group but i am just two weeks away from being homeless and i need prayers that I find a house. I live in an area where even rental prices are going up. A studio here is going for 1500.00 and a 2 bedroom apartment for 2000.00. I am finding just horrifying crap for this much money. I am also competing with the students who are all looking for housing. You would think that my housing karma would be good as I have opened my house always to people who have needed it, but alas, I think this karma thing is not quite that linear.
I think after my little five month stint of being homeless in 2006, this is by biggest fear. This time it is worse because of the air quality from the fires makes even camping in my van impossible and I really feel like I have to be centered to be able to continue doing support work for our first responders.
So I would love prayers for finding an affordable home. Barring that, any of you who live someplace affordable that isn't burning, talk me into moving <g>! And since I am in an asking mode, a few prayers that these fires get under control and for our wonderful fire fighters would also be appreciated.
m
loujeanb - 15 Jul 2008 02:24 GMT Here are some more prayers coming for you. God bless.
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> Not mundane at all, M. This is very important and certainly needs to be a > big part of our prayers from now until you find just the right place that [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > m shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 08:15 GMT > Here are some more prayers coming for you. God bless. > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > m thanks!
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shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 08:17 GMT On Jul 14, 5:28 pm, <sweetpickl...@SPAMknology.net> wrote:
> Not mundane at all, M. This is very important and certainly needs to be a > big part of our prayers from now until you find just the right place that [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > m Gwen, dp upi know where they are headed? I have met firefighters from as far away as New Zealand. IIt is psycologically very important for those crews from out of state to be here-makes us all feel a little less lost. m
Nann Bell - 16 Jul 2008 14:20 GMT > Gwen, > dp upi know where they are headed? I have met firefighters from as > far away as New Zealand. IIt is psycologically very important for > those crews from out of state to be here-makes us all feel a little > less lost. > m from NZ? that is an awesome example of helpfulness.
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sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 17 Jul 2008 03:04 GMT M, the article probably said, but I'm sorry I don't remember if it did. Gwen
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On Jul 14, 5:28 pm, <sweetpickl...@SPAMknology.net> wrote:
> Not mundane at all, M. This is very important and certainly needs to be a > big part of our prayers from now until you find just the right place that [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > m Gwen, dp upi know where they are headed? I have met firefighters from as far away as New Zealand. IIt is psycologically very important for those crews from out of state to be here-makes us all feel a little less lost. m
Squirrely - 15 Jul 2008 03:42 GMT not mundane at all M, and i will be praying.
I just wish you could get over in this area. Yeah we have the smoke but not like you do right now and it is much cheaper to live, you would just have to put up with the heat though.
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>I hate to bring something this mundane to this group but i am just two > weeks away from being homeless and i need prayers that I find a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > m shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 08:14 GMT > not mundane at all M, and i will be praying. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > m Jo, I'm surprised you are bit getting smoke from the big basin fire. I actually love the heat-I may wind up there yet!
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Squirrely - 15 Jul 2008 14:46 GMT we were socked in from the north stuff and then got some of yours but right now the delta breeze has taken alot of it out of here. it will be back though from what I hear it is just a matter of when.
I pray you get a place before your time is up. I feel for you. We are close to it too if something doesn't change soon. so I can kind of understand how you feel.
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> Jo, > I'm surprised you are bit getting smoke from the big basin fire. I > actually love the heat-I may wind up there yet! > > m Alex B., - 15 Jul 2008 03:44 GMT > I hate to bring something this mundane to this group but i am just two > weeks away from being homeless and i need prayers that I find a > house. Sending Good Thoughts, {{{{Melinda}}}}
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Kelly C. - 15 Jul 2008 03:55 GMT Beautiful and green here in our valley. Skies are clear, and housing is a lot cheaper than down there.
Would sure love to have you close by. We could make jam with my Mom, and pickle some green beans, fresh from her garden.:)
Love and good wishes for you and yours, always.
Kelly C.
>I hate to bring something this mundane to this group but i am just two > weeks away from being homeless and i need prayers that I find a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > m shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 08:12 GMT > Bea al Kelly, os your mom in Oregon now? I am so ready to move to Oregon! ALso I need a new pic of rachel (but now until I find a place to live).
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Kelly C. - 15 Jul 2008 15:54 GMT >> Bea al > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > m My Mom has always been in Oregon. It's my Dad that lives down in Stockton.
Just holler, and I'll send as many pics as you'd like, whenever you want them.:)
Kelly C.
Nann Bell - 15 Jul 2008 13:17 GMT > Beautiful and green here in our valley. Skies are clear, and housing is a > lot cheaper than down there. > > Would sure love to have you close by. We could make jam with my Mom, and > pickle some green beans, fresh from her garden.:) er - can I come visit? That talk of green beans fresh fromthe garden &/or pickled did me in. I have a rep in my family for liking my veggies raw and relatively fresh. That's rough in rural Michigan!
We were going to pick raspberries this morning, but the predicted lovely weather gave way to drizzles instead and folks who know told us your berries get moldy very fast if you pick in the rain. Maybe Wednesday or Thursday.
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Kelly C. - 15 Jul 2008 15:56 GMT >> Beautiful and green here in our valley. Skies are clear, and housing is a >> lot cheaper than down there. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > berries > get moldy very fast if you pick in the rain. Maybe Wednesday or Thursday. I'd love for you to visit!
Mom has a big garden every year, but grows mainly tomatoes, beans, peas, and squash.
Yesterday Rach and I made a box cheesecake, but I made a compote out of fresh blueberries from my neighbor's yard.:)
Kelly C.
Nann Bell - 16 Jul 2008 14:21 GMT > Mom has a big garden every year, but grows mainly tomatoes, beans, peas, and > squash. I had to admit defeat this year - keeping up with a larger vegetable garden has been too difficult the past two years. I'm back to just peppers & tomatoes - and the perennial asparagus bed. I can load up on summer squash from other locals - if the weather will co-operate! I never did get peas to take off sadly. Uless there's a big change before next summer, I'll just do a container garden on the deck then as weeding even the smaller garden as become a lick & a promise type thing. It's time to let the grass take over again.
> Yesterday Rach and I made a box cheesecake, but I made a compote out of > fresh blueberries from my neighbor's yard.:) Yum! We're still waiting for decent raspberry picking weather. Had big storms last night, which probably ruined the Mosquito Barrier i sprayed yesterday morning. The 60% chance day, we had no rain. The 30% chance, we had severe storms. Murphy strikes again!
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Kelly C. - 16 Jul 2008 17:29 GMT We had such a late spring this year, that we're all hoping we also have a longer than usual summer. Otherwise, all these plants will die before they're ready to harvest.
It has been an interesting weather year, to be sure. And not always in a good way.
Kelly C.
>> Mom has a big garden every year, but grows mainly tomatoes, beans, peas, >> and [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > we > had severe storms. Murphy strikes again! Squirrely - 16 Jul 2008 20:04 GMT bite your tongue Kelly, we have already had too many days above 100 and I am so ready for fall months. so don't curse us here. ;0)
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> We had such a late spring this year, that we're all hoping we also have a > longer than usual summer. Otherwise, all these plants will die before [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Kelly C. Nann Bell - 15 Jul 2008 04:12 GMT I heard on the news this morning that real progress was made on containing the fires this past weekend. Is that true, or were they stating things in an overly optimistic way?
Housing is very affordable here and we have a spare room until you find your own place. ;-) But if you don't keep your door tightly closed, you may find a curious cat checking you out. And you don't shovel snow until late November - usually - or after early April - usually. heehee
But your good karma will pay off and a place for you to live WILL appear. It's just that karma doesn't tell time in the same way we humans do. It WILL work out - and you hae our prayers to make sure it is so!
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shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 08:10 GMT Hi Nann, I think thing are a little better as the marine layer has come back. just tonight though, we have a new fire just a few miles from me- probably human set. It is just so strange to see such dry air and fires so intense. I worked the oakland hills fire years ago and that was almost incomprehensible but this is just so much worse.
And hey Nann, thanks for the offer but I don't do winter <g>
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Nann Bell - 16 Jul 2008 13:26 GMT > Hi Nann, > I think thing are a little better as the marine layer has come back. > just tonight though, we have a new fire just a few miles from me- > probably human set. It is just so strange to see such dry air and > fires so intense. I worked the oakland hills fire years ago and that > was almost incomprehensible but this is just so much worse. Mike was showing me a job listing in Daly City - part-time, low pay, no housing. I told him i don't need even more insults to my sinuses these days - I'm struggling enough here with double the allergy meds I had last year. He tried to claim there weren't any fires around the bay area, but backed down when I started quoting some of what you've told us to him!
> And hey Nann, > thanks for the offer but I don't do winter <g> man, i keep trying! Winter was too dul last year, I was hoping to add some interest for next year, heehee.
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Carole - 15 Jul 2008 04:35 GMT Come up to Washington. The sun is shining, the air is clean and the rents are affordable. You can get a two bedroom apartment up here for under $800 (cable TV included :) And you get the best scenery you've ever seen!
Carole :)
> I hate to bring something this mundane to this group but i am just two > weeks away from being homeless and i need prayers that I find a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > m shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 08:07 GMT > Come up to Washington. The sun is shining, the air is clean and the > rents are affordable. You can get a two bedroom apartment up here for [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > m Carole, I am so considering it!
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Carole - 15 Jul 2008 16:30 GMT >>Come up to Washington. The sun is shining, the air is clean and the >>rents are affordable. You can get a two bedroom apartment up here for >>under $800 (cable TV included :) And you get the best scenery you've >>ever seen!
> Carole, > I am so considering it! > > m You should. This is a great place to live, and no state income tax :))) Not to mention that we have nice people here too! And we don't get a lot of snow (if any). It does rain in the winter, but as my friend David says "You don't have to shovel rain!" :-)))) I wouldn't live anywhere else. The temperatures are great all year round. Right now it's nice and warm during the day and at night, you can still pull the blanket on if you want to :)
Carole :)
Carole - 16 Jul 2008 16:23 GMT > Carole, > I am so considering it! > > m How is this for convincing? :-))))
http://www.carolemay.com/images/MtBaker.jpg
Carole :)
Kelly C. - 16 Jul 2008 17:30 GMT >> Carole, >> I am so considering it! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Carole :) Quit trying to lure her into Washington!lol
M, Oregon has no sales tax, and somebody else always pumps your gas for you.
There, that oughta do it.LOL
Kelly C.
lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com - 16 Jul 2008 19:15 GMT > > shenmei9w...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Kelly C. here's the thing-do you guys get winter? I mean the "snow can't go out too rainy" sort of winter? I am so cold weather phobic. I am dead in cold-however if it is 110 I am very very happy. I have had the best time in the micro climate of the Santa Cruz Mountains which is above the fog line and often hits 90 and at least 15 times a summer is 100+. Back in the days when I could not imagine not having money (you know, three years ago before Megan's medical bills and my 22,000 a year insurance-those days) I always thought I would live in Arkansas in the spring, summer and fall and head on over to Arizona in the winter. Yes Carole, bellingham is gorgeous but that is snow on that mountain!
DeeTee, I know that Ohio is cold in the winter
However, I do know that I can handle Vancouver in the winter and Seattle for that matter.
Well the beat goes on...
DeeTee - 16 Jul 2008 19:30 GMT Well, it was worth a shot. I also remembered after posting that we have a cot. I have absolutely no idea why we have so many sleeping possibilities. When we make our next move (in a few years from now), I think we'll do away with so many variations.
DeeTee
>> > shenmei9w...@gmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Well the beat goes on... Squirrely - 16 Jul 2008 20:07 GMT you would love it here then M, so come on over and get a place. We could be neighbors. LOL
we have had so many above 100 days already I am not doing good with it this year at all for some reason. we had two days of 111, and 112 right up your alley.
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> > here's the thing-do you guys get winter? I mean the "snow can't go [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Well the beat goes on... Carole - 16 Jul 2008 21:21 GMT > winter. Yes Carole, bellingham is gorgeous but that is snow on that > mountain! Yes, there is snow on the mountain, but you're not going up there, believe me! In fact, you can only go so far and then no farther (unless you are into mountain climbing with snow shoes, LOL :) I drove up there last March and could only drive a certain distance and then the roads were closed. It was nice here, and freezing up there. So the snow on the mountain is nice to look at but we don't get it here. We get rain :)
Carole
lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com - 16 Jul 2008 19:18 GMT Diane,
How do you feel about the Pacific ocean? I have never been an Atlantic sort of person with the exception of the Floriday Keys, but you made me almost want to at least visit!
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Jofirey - 16 Jul 2008 19:36 GMT > Diane, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > m Di, she would so love Cape Hatteras. You tell her about it!
Of course I love the Atlantic. And real beaches.
Jo
Carole - 16 Jul 2008 21:22 GMT > Diane, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > m The Atlantic is nice. I used to LOVE to go out to Montauk Point when I lived on Long Island. It's not like the Pacific though...they don't have orcas :)
Carole
Carole - 16 Jul 2008 22:01 GMT > The Atlantic is nice. But the Pacific has these: http://www.carolemay.com/images/L41_maleorca_small.jpg
Me :) who LOVES them!
Kelly - 17 Jul 2008 00:25 GMT Cowichan Bay in BC Canada has this http://www.cowichanbay.com/gallery.php?pageTitle=Photo%20Gallery and it is on the Pacific side. Those whales of Carole's go right by us! Of course we also have very little cold in the winter (not that you could tell this year), vineyards near by, lots of B & B's, kayacking etc. Near perfect!
Kelly
>> The Atlantic is nice. But the Pacific has these: > > http://www.carolemay.com/images/L41_maleorca_small.jpg > > Me :) > who LOVES them! Carole - 17 Jul 2008 00:27 GMT > Cowichan Bay in BC Canada has this > http://www.cowichanbay.com/gallery.php?pageTitle=Photo%20Gallery and it is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Kelly Oooo, I have to come up there and do some photography! How far is that from B'ham?
Carole
lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com - 17 Jul 2008 00:25 GMT > > The Atlantic is nice. But the Pacific has these: > > http://www.carolemay.com/images/L41_maleorca_small.jpg > > Me :) > who LOVES them! I'm with you on the whales! It's grey whales for us and O lknow their migration patterns as well as i know my own! I do love the ocean but our ocean is so cold. I learned to surf in florida; I got good at it in Hawaii. When I first moved here, I was stunned that I would have to surf in a wet suit and have really not loved the process of wet suits at all. So I have a question: does the atlantic have a marine layer like we do? Is there relentless fog in the summer?
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Carole - 17 Jul 2008 01:48 GMT > I'm with you on the whales! It's grey whales for us and O lknow their > migration patterns as well as i know my own! I do love the ocean but [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > m Not sure what a marine layer is. But you can surf in the summer on Long Island without a wet suit. There are certain beaches where it is allowed, so if that's important, find a place in the Township of Babylon as those beaches belong to that township. We used to go and watch, but we always had to pay to get in. Not sure how much it is now, but it was like $7 when I moved in 2003. There is no fog in the summer on Long Island :)
Carole
Donna G. - 17 Jul 2008 00:38 GMT M.
I would hardly say that having a roof over your head is mundane! Wow, that is a scary situation to be in and to have to worry about being homeless. You know you have a whole huge extended family with members in just about every state who would all gladly open their homes and their hearts to you anytime!!!
Prayers definitely being lifted for your situation as well as for all those fighting and dealing with the multiple fires in your area!
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Donna . . . . 1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we call them FRIENDS......
2.) J.K.M.A.
shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 17 Jul 2008 01:41 GMT Kelly, I am actually seriously thinking about a move to Canada. I did the test to see if Canada would take me and I got a very high score. Your area is just beautiful. I am going to google it tonight and just spend some cyber time there.
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Carole - 17 Jul 2008 01:50 GMT > Kelly, > I am actually seriously thinking about a move to Canada. I did the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > m Aren't rents higher in Canada? I looked at a few towns just across the border and it was MUCH cheaper to live here in B'ham, not to mention that everyone comes down here to shop as our prices and I think sales tax are less. I know when I go shopping around here, there are a LOT of BC license plates in the parking lot!
Carole
shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 17 Jul 2008 04:01 GMT > shenmei9w...@gmail.com wrote: > > Kelly, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Carole Carole, I think no rents are higher anywhere than in san frnacisco and santa cruz (well and Manhatten). just for the fun of it, go on craigslist and select bay area and look at the santa cruz rents-keep in mind that those houses going for 3 and 5 thousand dollars a month are not special-they just are houses.
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Carole - 18 Jul 2008 06:04 GMT > Carole, > I think no rents are higher anywhere than in san frnacisco and santa [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > m Sounds like NYC . . . one of the reasons I got out of there. My best friend had one hell of a time finding a place to live. The rents in NYC are affordable only if you are a doctor or a lawyer!
Carole
Jofirey - 17 Jul 2008 04:21 GMT >> Kelly, >> I am actually seriously thinking about a move to Canada. I did the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Carole A lot of it is to avoid the Value Added Tax. It pushes up the cost of consumer goods for them. Also to avoid very high liquor taxes.
Trust me it is interesting, but no fun to travel in Canada with a cheep scate alcoholic.
Those are both exaggerations about Charlie, but he does like his beer, and blanched at the price in Canada.
Jo
Carole - 18 Jul 2008 06:05 GMT > A lot of it is to avoid the Value Added Tax. It pushes up the cost of > consumer goods for them. Also to avoid very high liquor taxes. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jo Yea, they have VAT in England as well. I only used to shop in places where I could get the VAT back at the airport when I was coming home :) Or in the duty free shops at Heathrow where there was no VAT :))))
Carole
DeeTee - 15 Jul 2008 17:44 GMT Sweetheart, we have a couch that opens into a queen sized bed, a guest room, blow-up twin mattress, blow-up queen mattress, four recliners, and two sleeping bags. Come over to Ohio for awhile. Not kidding!
DeeTee
>I hate to bring something this mundane to this group but i am just two > weeks away from being homeless and i need prayers that I find a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > m DianeChamberlain100@gmail.com - 15 Jul 2008 19:26 GMT i can think of few things less mundane than shelter. I hope you can find something soon, M, but i love carole's idea of moving to bellingham. having just visited there, i was ready to pack my things and go. it's got to be one of the prettiest areas on earth.
that said, if you don't mind trading fire for drought, north carolina is beautiful!
diane
Jofirey - 15 Jul 2008 21:48 GMT >i can think of few things less mundane than shelter. I hope you can > find something soon, M, but i love carole's idea of moving to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > diane No disrespect to North Carolina, but if you are having a drought, the fires won't be far behind. It is a beautiful state.
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Carole - 16 Jul 2008 07:17 GMT > i can think of few things less mundane than shelter. I hope you can > find something soon, M, but i love carole's idea of moving to > bellingham. having just visited there, i was ready to pack my things > and go. it's got to be one of the prettiest areas on earth. A lot of people are finding that out and we are now on the list of the top ten places to live in the US. I wouldn't move from here (unless I absolutely had to for some reason - like if I met a cute, rich guy :)) But then, I'd probably talk him into moving here :)))
Carole
Nann Bell - 16 Jul 2008 14:21 GMT > A lot of people are finding that out and we are now on the list of the > top ten places to live in the US. A, it's awful when a good place gets "discovered"! I remember the years Gainesville was high on Money magazines top cities there was serious conflict for all of us. We were proud to have it recognized, but we really didn't want everyone and his brother moving in. Growth is already big enough with folks coming for school and never quite leaving because they like it so much.
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RhondaM - 16 Jul 2008 03:52 GMT Prayers have been said for you dear!
>I hate to bring something this mundane to this group but i am just two > weeks away from being homeless and i need prayers that I find a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > m
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