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Rose B. --- re: your sister

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Donna G. - 14 May 2008 05:04 GMT
Rose,

I'm so sorry to hear that Sylvia is still doing so poorly.  I can only
imagine how difficult this is for all of your family!!!

Prayers continuing for all of you!!!

Blessings,

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Donna
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1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......

2.)    J.K.M.A.
RoseB - 14 May 2008 05:20 GMT
>Rose,

>I'm so sorry to hear that Sylvia is still doing so poorly.  I can only
>imagine how difficult this is for all of your family!!!
>
>Prayers continuing for all of you!!!

>Blessings,

>Donna
>1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
>call them FRIENDS......
>
>2.)    J.K.M.A.

Thanks Donna G. I appreciate your thoughts and prayers. This is very
difficult.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Diane - 15 May 2008 03:53 GMT
rose, I'm sorry to hear Sylvia's not doing well. What a difficult time
for you and your family. My prayers are with you.

diane
RoseB - 15 May 2008 04:14 GMT
>rose, I'm sorry to hear Sylvia's not doing well. What a difficult time
>for you and your family. My prayers are with you.
>
>diane

Thank-you, Diane.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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ANN M - 15 May 2008 02:14 GMT
Sylvia is in my daily prayers since I first read of what happened.  Will
add the rest of the family to those prayers also.
Ann
RoseB - 15 May 2008 02:45 GMT
>Sylvia is in my daily prayers since I first read of what happened.  Will
>add the rest of the family to those prayers also.
>Ann

Thank you so much. I appreciate this beyond words. I just feel that if
we pray enough and remain positive that there is hope. Harold went
back to Vancouver today, but I have not been  able to talk to him to
determine what his feelings are. There is still no change, and the
nurse indicated to my cousin that her kidneys will start shutting
down.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Donna G. - 15 May 2008 03:37 GMT
Rose,

Is this the sister and brother-in-law that lost a child several years
ago?   Your poor family has been through so very much, don't know how
you all hang on through all of this!!!

Prayers ongoing and keep us posted!

Make sure to take good care of you too!!!

Hugs,

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Donna
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1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......

2.)    J.K.M.A.
RoseB - 15 May 2008 04:19 GMT
Hi Donna,
Yes this is the same sister that lost her son, then had breast cancer
8 months later. She went through chemo and radiation but because her
cancer was advanced, her lungs were damaged and so she is susceptible
to pneumonia. She has one son left, and this is very difficult for
him. Her husband lost a brother earlier this year as well.

Somehow oow she developed an opportunistic infection. My thinkig
though continues to be that she was under-treated for her pneumonia.
She was in hospital for two weeks, then was discharged. During her
whole hospital stay she ony had oral antibiotics. That does not make
sense to me. Even she questioned her doc when she was released if the
doseage was adequate.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Nell - 15 May 2008 05:36 GMT
RoseB wrote :
> Hi Donna,
> Yes this is the same sister that lost her son, then had breast cancer
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> Please remove "Ima" to reply.

I think I'd have to agree with you.

Your sister and family are in my prayers.

Nell
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 16 May 2008 18:01 GMT
The medical field has much for which to answer. It was the medical 'experts'
who caused my second round of hernias for which I am still waiting to see
the surgeon. Know that you and your family are in our prayers.

DeeTee

> Hi Donna,
> Yes this is the same sister that lost her son, then had breast cancer
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RoseB - 19 May 2008 19:23 GMT
>The medical field has much for which to answer. It was the medical 'experts'
>who caused my second round of hernias for which I am still waiting to see
>the surgeon. Know that you and your family are in our prayers.
>
>DeeTee

Thank-you DeeTee,
I am sad to hear that your hernias were a result of medical error.
Things like that should not happen.

As I was watching Sylvia's nurses I thought about how easy it would be
for mistakes to occur. Even with one-to-one nursing care there is a
potential for human error.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Donna G. - 20 May 2008 02:56 GMT
Rose,

Any change in how Sylvia is doing?  Any improvements at all?

Prayers ongoing!

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Donna
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1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......

2.)    J.K.M.A.
RoseB - 21 May 2008 00:51 GMT
>Rose,
>
>Any change in how Sylvia is doing?  Any improvements at all?
>
>Prayers ongoing!

>Donna
>
>1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
>call them FRIENDS......
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>2.)    J.K.M.A.

Thanks for your prayers, Donna. The doctor was very negative when we
talked to him on Sunday, and what he said was very hard to hear. I
hope that he is presenting the worst case scenario, and not a
confirmed reality. She has pneumonia once again. I guess because she
is immobile. Darren her son is being an absolute rock. He will not
allow anyone to think negatively about this. He believes she will come
through this. It is denial, but then his positive thinking is
sustaining him through this.

The nurses at St. Paul's are wonderful. They care about the family
members not just the patient. After listening to the doc it was pretty
hard to be optimistic, but the nurse  took Darren and Harold aside and
spoke with them.

Sylvia has now been on the ventilator for two weeks.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Squirrely - 21 May 2008 06:37 GMT
Prayers still coming that way Rose and my heart is there with you sweetie. I
sure hope you have a good outcome for your sister.

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Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one
I am nuts about you.

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> Thanks for your prayers, Donna. The doctor was very negative when we
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> Sylvia has now been on the ventilator for two weeks.
>      Rose @}->--
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 15 May 2008 20:25 GMT
Rose, it is so hard to watch someone you love suffer from anything and you
know you can't do anything to make it work differently.  Praying for all of
you.
Gwen

Rose,

I'm so sorry to hear that Sylvia is still doing so poorly.  I can only
imagine how difficult this is for all of your family!!!

Prayers continuing for all of you!!!

Blessings,

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Donna
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1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......

2.)    J.K.M.A.
RoseB - 22 May 2008 01:16 GMT
Sylvia was taken off the respirator today. My cousin Margaret
indicated that yesterday, she started to stabilize, and so they
planned to try today, and were successful. She still has the breathing
tube in but it is connected to oxygen as opposed to the ventilator. We
were told to be cautious, she still has a long way to go and is not
out of the woods yet. But this is a step in the right direction.

We are so excited and so thankful for even this step. The doctor had
said on Sunday that there was a good chance she would never have the
tube removed and never leave ICU.

DId i mention yesterday that i had won a weekend for two getaway at
the Pan Pacific in Vancouver plus a $100 gift certificate? I thought
we could use it when we go see Sylvia as hotels in downtown Vancouver
are so expensive. But maybe i will hold onto this for a bit and the
sisters can have  a getaway once Sylvia is better.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

Please remove "Ima" to reply.
Harvey R. Stone - 22 May 2008 02:41 GMT
> Sylvia was taken off the respirator today. My cousin Margaret
> indicated that yesterday, she started to stabilize, and so they
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> Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
> one seeks to understand it.

Hi Rose,,,,May God give you a time of peace,,,,give you strength to deal
with whatever tomorrow brings.   I think you should use your prize at a time
that seems right for you and yours.   Some people I have known would feel
guilty for enjoying themselves with all that is going on.  I do not agree
with that at all.  You would probably be the strongest one there from it if
there was a need with Sylvia and others in your family.
      You know that stress is not our friend.  :-)  40mg of steroid every
day is not my friend either.... The truth is that I may not have any left by
the time I cut back on it.   I am trying to say that I worry about Rose too.
Rest,,, sleep,,, and peace of mind or mind at rest helps us deal with what
life brings us.   So much in life is out of our hands and stress and worry
does not help much and we do it anyway.  So it goes.
Harv
Donna G. - 22 May 2008 03:50 GMT
{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Rose & Family }}}}}}}}}}}}}

Continuing the prayers and giving thanks for even the small steps!!!
Wonderful to hear Sylvia was able to come off the vent. that is quite an
amazing step!!!  May she continue to improve and surprise everyone!!!

In the mean time, Harv is right, take care of yourself and make sure you
are getting some good rest.  All this stress has to be taking its toll
on all of you!!!

Keep us posted!!!

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Donna
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1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......

2.)    J.K.M.A.
RoseB - 22 May 2008 04:12 GMT
>{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Rose & Family }}}}}}}}}}}}}

>Continuing the prayers and giving thanks for even the small steps!!!
>Wonderful to hear Sylvia was able to come off the vent. that is quite an
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>Keep us posted!!!

>Donna
>1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
>call them FRIENDS......
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>2.)    J.K.M.A.

Thanks Donna.
This group has been a real life line for me.
Thank-you for your good wishes.
We are thrilled t hat she is off the vent.

The stress level has been huge for all of us, and I think today we can
finally exhale.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Donna G. - 22 May 2008 03:51 GMT
Harv,

You will ALWAYS have friends, especially here at ASA as we all
understand and care!!!

God Bless my friend!!!

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Donna
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1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......

2.)    J.K.M.A.
Harvey R. Stone - 22 May 2008 04:21 GMT
Thank you for saying that but steroids have a way of stretching the
connection between people and I worry about adding to that with quick
answers without enough thought behind it.
good night my friend.

Harv

> Harv,
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RoseB - 22 May 2008 04:11 GMT
Harv,
You are right. It is not good to maintain a high level of stress.
Today was a particularly difficult time for me, and I found it hard to
work and not 'lose it'. Once I heard the good news though, I felt much
better, and I think I will actually be able to sleep tonight.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 22 May 2008 03:45 GMT
Rose, I pray that Sylvia's recovery will be so fast that everybody will be
surprised.  And the sisters will have a wonderful time being together on
that getaway!
Gwen

Sylvia was taken off the respirator today. My cousin Margaret
indicated that yesterday, she started to stabilize, and so they
planned to try today, and were successful. She still has the breathing
tube in but it is connected to oxygen as opposed to the ventilator. We
were told to be cautious, she still has a long way to go and is not
out of the woods yet. But this is a step in the right direction.

We are so excited and so thankful for even this step. The doctor had
said on Sunday that there was a good chance she would never have the
tube removed and never leave ICU.

DId i mention yesterday that i had won a weekend for two getaway at
the Pan Pacific in Vancouver plus a $100 gift certificate? I thought
we could use it when we go see Sylvia as hotels in downtown Vancouver
are so expensive. But maybe i will hold onto this for a bit and the
sisters can have  a getaway once Sylvia is better.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

Please remove "Ima" to reply.
RoseB - 22 May 2008 04:09 GMT
>Rose, I pray that Sylvia's recovery will be so fast that everybody will be
>surprised.  And the sisters will have a wonderful time being together on
>that getaway!
>Gwen

Thanks Gwen!
     Rose @}->--
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one seeks to understand it.

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Carole - 22 May 2008 04:26 GMT
I will continue to keep her and your family in my prayers, Rose.

HUGS,
Carole

> Sylvia was taken off the respirator today. My cousin Margaret
> indicated that yesterday, she started to stabilize, and so they
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RoseB - 22 May 2008 05:31 GMT
>I will continue to keep her and your family in my prayers, Rose.

Thank-you Carole. I appreciate this.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Kelly - 22 May 2008 04:49 GMT
It is a great hotel Rose - congratulations.  On Saturday nights they have an
Italian Buffet with the most incredible antipasto collection and the dessert
selection is to die for.  Would make a great sister get away once Sylvia is
better.

Good news on the respirator.  Will continue to think very positive thoughts.

Kelly

> Sylvia was taken off the respirator today. My cousin Margaret
> indicated that yesterday, she started to stabilize, and so they
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RoseB - 22 May 2008 05:32 GMT
>It is a great hotel Rose - congratulations.  On Saturday nights they have an
>Italian Buffet with the most incredible antipasto collection and the dessert
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>Kelly

Thanks Kelly,
I will email  you tomorrow. I am busy with course work tonight and I
also need to get working on my application for the scholarship.

Tonight I feel better.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Kelly - 22 May 2008 17:02 GMT
I am so glad you are feeling a little better!  Things might just look up now
Rose.  And just think - May is close to being over so that means
that.....June is almost here and report cards will be finished soon.  End of
the year picnics and end of a difficult year.  I always think it is strange
that some people think the New Year begins in January.  After working in the
schools I always think of the year ending in June and starting in September.

Hang in there.

Kelly

>>It is a great hotel Rose - congratulations.  On Saturday nights they have
>>an
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DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 22 May 2008 15:23 GMT
That's great news, Rose, but it doesn't mean we'll stop praying for her
recovery. Hang in there, Hon.

DeeTee

> Sylvia was taken off the respirator today. My cousin Margaret
> indicated that yesterday, she started to stabilize, and so they
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> Please remove "Ima" to reply.
RoseB - 23 May 2008 04:32 GMT
Thanks for your good wishes everyone. They had to put Sylvia back on
the ventilator last night as she was not able to handle it and her
heart was getting too stressed. We were so disappointed at this
setback.

I now have my sinus infection back too:(
Started back on the clavulen and amoxicillin.

     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 23 May 2008 04:48 GMT
So sorry for the bad news from Sylvia and you.  Will keep praying for
improvement for both.
Gwen

Thanks for your good wishes everyone. They had to put Sylvia back on
the ventilator last night as she was not able to handle it and her
heart was getting too stressed. We were so disappointed at this
setback.

I now have my sinus infection back too:(
Started back on the clavulen and amoxicillin.

     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Adelle - 23 May 2008 14:20 GMT
> Thanks for your good wishes everyone. They had to put Sylvia back on
> the ventilator last night as she was not able to handle it and her
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> I now have my sinus infection back too:(
> Started back on the clavulen and amoxicillin.

Dear Rose;

Am so sorry to hear of this setback. Sylvia - and you - have been in my
thoughts and prayers. Wishing you both strength.

Adelle
RoseB - 23 May 2008 15:02 GMT
On Fri, 23 May 2008 09:20:09 -0400, "Adelle"

>Dear Rose;
>
>Am so sorry to hear of this setback. Sylvia - and you - have been in my
>thoughts and prayers. Wishing you both strength.
>
>Adelle

Thank-you, Adelle,
I appreciate it.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Plantmistress - 23 May 2008 14:35 GMT
> Thanks for your good wishes everyone. They had to put Sylvia back on
> the ventilator last night as she was not able to handle it and her
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> Please remove "Ima" to reply.

I am sorry to hear about this setback - still praying for both of you
& everyone else who needs prayers on the group.

Shannon
RoseB - 23 May 2008 15:03 GMT
>I am sorry to hear about this setback - still praying for both of you
>& everyone else who needs prayers on the group.
>
>Shannon
Thanks Shannon,
It seems like this year is especially tough for many people. I
appreciate your prayers.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Carole - 23 May 2008 15:31 GMT
Sorry to hear about this, Rose. But often the body does what it needs to
heal. I will continue to pray for her recovery.

HUGS,
Carole

> Thanks for your good wishes everyone. They had to put Sylvia back on
> the ventilator last night as she was not able to handle it and her
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Kelly - 23 May 2008 16:57 GMT
They could take blood transfusions and pump them into people needing special
meds from some of us.  Let me see - need mtx and antibiotics - bag B.

Rose you need a break!  What a pain - literally.  Sending you healing rays
from down here!  Obviously it wasn't Sylvia's time to get off for good but
how wonderful that she made it a short time.  Longer time next time -
prayers going out.

Kelly
> Thanks for your good wishes everyone. They had to put Sylvia back on
> the ventilator last night as she was not able to handle it and her
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RoseB - 24 May 2008 03:53 GMT
Thanks Kelly,
They have scheduled a  tracheotomy for tomorrow. I guess the feeling
is that if they keep the ventilator tube in any longer it will damage
her vocal cords.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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d'huit - 24 May 2008 19:41 GMT
Thanks Kelly,
They have scheduled a  tracheotomy for tomorrow. I guess the feeling
is that if they keep the ventilator tube in any longer it will damage
her vocal cords.
     Rose @}->--

(((((((((((((((((((((sylvia, rose and family)))))))))))))  i've been
following what's been occurring, praying and had hoped sylvia's improvement
would be sustainable and built upon.  i've hung back a little, because i
know how these kinds of situations unevenly and uncertainly unfold.

the emotional roller coaster ride these kinds of situations cause must be
so exhausting for you and your family.  i cannot overemphasize  how
important any opportunities for respite are at this time, for you and your
family, to relieve the unquestionable stress.  i worry about you, hon.  take
the short time involved to do something special for yourself, rose, like
treat yourself to a pedicure or a facial, if it is not something you already
do for yourself with regularity (i'd suggest a barbershop shave or
barbershop facial for the men in the family).  even something that small can
be of enormous stress relief benefit.

my heart goes out to all of you and my prayers continue.
kate
RoseB - 24 May 2008 21:58 GMT
Thanks Kate,
You are right it is an emotional roller coaster. Sometimes it is two
steps forward and one step back, and sometimes it is just the step
back. But that is life. They have moved her to another section of ICU.
I hope that does not mean she will not have the nurses she had last
week. Both nurses, who happened to be male, were absolutely top notch.
Not that gender makes a difference, but it was so easy for them to
shift her when she was off kilter just because they had the added
strength.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Squirrely - 25 May 2008 18:35 GMT
congrats on the win Rose, I sure hope you get to use it when Sylvia is doing
better.

I read all your emails about Sylvia and she is still in my prayers and so is
your family.
I can imagine the disappointment of her having to go back on the vent but if
it helps her it is better that way.

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Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one
I am nuts about you.

> Sylvia was taken off the respirator today. My cousin Margaret
> indicated that yesterday, she started to stabilize, and so they
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> sisters can have  a getaway once Sylvia is better.
>      Rose @}->--
RoseB - 25 May 2008 21:35 GMT
>congrats on the win Rose, I sure hope you get to use it when Sylvia is doing
>better.
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>I can imagine the disappointment of her having to go back on the vent but if
>it helps her it is better that way.

They have now given her a tracheotomy. I hope that this achieves the
intended results. She has been through so much.
     Rose @}->--
Being educated means that rather than fearing the unknown,
one seeks to understand it.

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Squirrely - 28 May 2008 06:38 GMT
Prayers still coming that way Rose. I hope it achieves the intended results
for her too.

You all have been thru so much lately. My heart goes out to all of you.

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Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one
I am nuts about you.

>
> They have now given her a tracheotomy. I hope that this achieves the
> intended results. She has been through so much.
>      Rose @}->--

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