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Navy - 08 May 2008 21:50 GMT
I was wondering if I could get some feedback on those new "drop on top and
it opens the can" can and jar openers.  My Mom has trouble with the electric
one we have (it does require a bit of finesse to open a can).  Of course,
with all the cans coming out with the pull ring type, the other type of
opener may become obsolete.  Anyhow, my hands are starting to go and we were
looking at those new types of openers.

Thanks, folks

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sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 08 May 2008 23:20 GMT
I have one and it had worked fine until this week when I tried to use it; it
wouldn't work even though I put in new batteries.  Had given my DIL one and
she had not used it so I got it back.  It also wouldn't work to start with.
Finally got both of them to work!
Gwen

I was wondering if I could get some feedback on those new "drop on top and
it opens the can" can and jar openers.  My Mom has trouble with the electric
one we have (it does require a bit of finesse to open a can).  Of course,
with all the cans coming out with the pull ring type, the other type of
opener may become obsolete.  Anyhow, my hands are starting to go and we were
looking at those new types of openers.

Thanks, folks

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Donna G. - 09 May 2008 01:44 GMT
I have one as well and LOVE it!  Makes my life so much easier, plus I
like being able to set it on the can and start it, and then continue on
with what ever I am doing.  

Gwen, sometimes when they sit for a while unused the don't work and then
you have to press the little reset button on them and they will start to
work again.

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High Miles - 09 May 2008 02:31 GMT
> I have one as well and LOVE it!  Makes my life so much easier, plus I
> like being able to set it on the can and start it, and then continue on
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> Donna

I think maybe the OP was looking for brand names or models.
That's what I'd like to know.
Who has one they love and what kind is it.

Dorothy
Donna G. - 09 May 2008 05:50 GMT
Mine is simply called the One Touch can opener and can be found at
places like bed/bath/and beyone, Meijer, Target, Kohls, etc.  for
$19.99.  It is battery operated and you just set it on any size can,
touch the button, and wham...it opens the can while you continue on with
whatever you are doing.   Wonderful and works even when the power is
out!  Couldn't get much easier and I have talked about 4-5 of my friends
into getting one and each of them really likes it as well.

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High Miles - 09 May 2008 15:03 GMT
> Mine is simply called the One Touch can opener and can be found at
> places like bed/bath/and beyone, Meijer, Target, Kohls, etc.  for
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> out!  Couldn't get much easier and I have talked about 4-5 of my friends
> into getting one and each of them really likes it as well.

Thanks Donna  -  that's what we needed to hear.

Dorothy
d'huit - 10 May 2008 01:12 GMT
Mine is simply called the One Touch can opener and can be found at
places like bed/bath/and beyone, Meijer, Target, Kohls, etc.  for
$19.99.  It is battery operated and you just set it on any size can,
touch the button, and wham...it opens the can while you continue on with
whatever you are doing.   Wonderful and works even when the power is
out!  Couldn't get much easier and I have talked about 4-5 of my friends
into getting one and each of them really likes it as well.

ok!  i'll sure look for that one!  thank you!

kate

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Donna G. - 10 May 2008 05:57 GMT
Kate,

Thanks for sharing with us.  I am glad to hear that the one touch jar
opener is as wonderful as the one touch can opener is. I'll have to take
a look at them the next time I am at the store!

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Nann Bell - 09 May 2008 14:06 GMT
hmmm, I didn't get the original for some reason.......  I have the can opener
- a gift from a couple of Christmases ago.  I like it, but you have to change
the batteries when it starts noticeably slowing down!  A couple of times I
though I could open "just one more can" only to have it lose all juice and
get stuck on the can partway through!  THAT s a royal pain to deal with!  Oh,
and you do still have to be careful about sharp edges, they are just on the
top of the can sides rather than inside the rim.  (and I worry about those
edges until I get the cans up to the recycling trailer!)

I've been wondering about the new jar opener - it's certainly less bulky than
the B&D one!  I'm doing well enough with my current tools and my husband's
help to wait until someone in my family decides I need it as a gift.

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> I have one and it had worked fine until this week when I tried to use it; it
> wouldn't work even though I put in new batteries.  Had given my DIL one and
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> Thanks, folks
d'huit - 10 May 2008 01:11 GMT
hmmm, I didn't get the original for some reason.......  I have the can
opener
- a gift from a couple of Christmases ago.  I like it, but you have to
change
the batteries when it starts noticeably slowing down!  A couple of times I
though I could open "just one more can" only to have it lose all juice and
get stuck on the can partway through!  THAT s a royal pain to deal with!
Oh,
and you do still have to be careful about sharp edges, they are just on the
top of the can sides rather than inside the rim.  (and I worry about those
edges until I get the cans up to the recycling trailer!)

I've been wondering about the new jar opener - it's certainly less bulky
than
the B&D one!  I'm doing well enough with my current tools and my husband's
help to wait until someone in my family decides I need it as a gift.

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i have a one touch jar opener and i totally love it!  soooo easy to use.  i
need a can opener that is that easy.  i have a black and decker ergo can
opener (which recharges itself on its base), but i  have to struggle with
getting it to bite into the can lid.  need a better one.

kate

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On Thu, 8 May 2008 18:20:26 -0400, sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net wrote
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> I have one and it had worked fine until this week when I tried to use it;
> it
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> Thanks, folks
Navy - 09 May 2008 19:59 GMT
Thanks so much for all the responses.  I will pick one up next time we are
by one of those places.  My OT for my hands also wanted to know, as she was
thinking of getting one for her mother.  I also appreciate the added hints
of the reset button and "don't try to squeeze one more if the battery is
low!"

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>I was wondering if I could get some feedback on those new "drop on top and
>it opens the can" can and jar openers.  My Mom has trouble with the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
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> Thanks, folks
Navy - 13 May 2008 20:34 GMT
I am so appreciative of all the feedback as my hands, now, too, must be used
very gently.  I have been going to an occupational therapist and she gave me
a sheet of things to avoid with painful hands.  Huh!  It's a miracle my
hands made it to 70 (well, almost) before hollerin' help!  I plan to go by
there tomorrow after I close on my refinancing of my home - lowered my
monthly mortgage payment by almost $300 and got $23,000 cash to pay off some
other things, including a credit card and some dental work, and.....replace
the circuit breaker panel in my house.  I just discovered that the brand
used (some fifty or so years ago when the house was built) was not safe!
Anyhow thanks for the feedback and suggested brands to get.

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>I was wondering if I could get some feedback on those new "drop on top and
>it opens the can" can and jar openers.  My Mom has trouble with the
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> Thanks, folks
Harvey R. Stone - 14 May 2008 03:31 GMT
>I am so appreciative of all the feedback as my hands, now, too, must be
>used very gently.  I have been going to an occupational therapist and she
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>that the brand used (some fifty or so years ago when the house was built)
>was not safe! Anyhow thanks for the feedback and suggested brands to get.

Good job,,, Navy.   Even a lightning strike right on my house did not trip
my breakers but the wire that was blown apart did start a fire.  It cost my
insurance $28,000 to replace all electronics in my house.   People in older
houses should replace their breaker box at the very least.
Harv
Duckie - 14 May 2008 07:29 GMT
Harv -- when we bought this house in CA, the first thing we discovered
was that it had Knob and Tube wiring which the insurance companies are
now refusing to insure. In fact the CA State Leg. passed a law that says
it is not to be used anymore after some date -- might have been 2008 but
can't remember.
We did manage to find someone to insure it but before we moved in, I
paid to have the whole house rewired and up the box to double. So
everything is new now. Figured by the time we go to sell it [or our
heirs] they might have to replace it before it was sold. Wanted to use
today's dollars instead of 20 years down the road.
Reminds me, the house my daughter and family are renting still has
fuses. I am surprised they are still sold. ;)
Duckie

> Good job,,, Navy.   Even a lightning strike right on my house did not trip
> my breakers but the wire that was blown apart did start a fire.  It cost my
> insurance $28,000 to replace all electronics in my house.   People in older
> houses should replace their breaker box at the very least.
> Harv
Harvey R. Stone - 14 May 2008 14:26 GMT
> Harv -- when we bought this house in CA, the first thing we discovered was
> that it had Knob and Tube wiring which the insurance companies are now
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> I am surprised they are still sold. ;)
> Duckie

:-)  I know that cost you a lot but you sleep better and so will the next
owner.
Harv
Duckie - 15 May 2008 07:39 GMT
That is the truth.
Duckie

> :-)  I know that cost you a lot but you sleep better and so will the next
> owner.
> Harv
d'huit - 14 May 2008 22:08 GMT
Harv -- when we bought this house in CA, the first thing we discovered
was that it had Knob and Tube wiring which the insurance companies are
now refusing to insure. In fact the CA State Leg. passed a law that says
it is not to be used anymore after some date -- might have been 2008 but
can't remember.
We did manage to find someone to insure it but before we moved in, I
paid to have the whole house rewired and up the box to double. So
everything is new now. Figured by the time we go to sell it [or our
heirs] they might have to replace it before it was sold. Wanted to use
today's dollars instead of 20 years down the road.
Reminds me, the house my daughter and family are renting still has
fuses. I am surprised they are still sold. ;)
Duckie

knob and tube, as in ceramic knobs and tubes, with separate red and white or
black wires?  we were told by 3 different electricians that that was the
safest kind of wiring, because the wires can't short each other out and the
insulator knobs and tubes protect the wood studs from arcing burns, unlike
wire staples (geesh, that was back in 1975.  i can't believe i still
remember that!LOL).  but the fuse box was not safe (especially dangerous
when cheapskates tried to save a few cents by using a copper penny in the
fuse socket, instead of buying a new 15-cent fuse--many houses burned down
because of that.).  of course, we went ahead an upgraded to code, too.

kate

Harvey R. Stone wrote:

> Good job,,, Navy.   Even a lightning strike right on my house did not trip
> my breakers but the wire that was blown apart did start a fire.  It cost
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> houses should replace their breaker box at the very least.
> Harv
Duckie - 15 May 2008 07:49 GMT
Yep you got the right stuff. Electricians tend to tell you that and that
WAS true back when things didn't need three prongs for grounding which
none of this had [pulled off the wall plate and find that the plates had
been switched out to three prong but the wiring was only for two prong
with nothing grounded.
Also, I was told that it was long before we had tv's, dvds, air
conditioners, microwaves, hair dryers .... you get the idea. The problem
was over loading of all the circuits causing issues.
Also apparently, most electricians stopped using it in 1940. Our house
was built in 1940 so we got the question from the insurance companies.
Had the house been built in 1941 the question would not have been asked.
Actually glad it was though.
Now the wiring will let the dryer, dishwasher, hair dryers et al. run at
the same time without having to go out to the back and flick the circuit
breakers which often happened in the house we were renting down the street.
Duckie

> knob and tube, as in ceramic knobs and tubes, with separate red and white or
> black wires?  we were told by 3 different electricians that that was the
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>houses should replace their breaker box at the very least.
>>Harv
d'huit - 24 May 2008 20:50 GMT
Yep you got the right stuff. Electricians tend to tell you that and that
WAS true back when things didn't need three prongs for grounding which
none of this had [pulled off the wall plate and find that the plates had
been switched out to three prong but the wiring was only for two prong
with nothing grounded.
Also, I was told that it was long before we had tv's, dvds, air
conditioners, microwaves, hair dryers .... you get the idea. The problem
was over loading of all the circuits causing issues.
Also apparently, most electricians stopped using it in 1940. Our house
was built in 1940 so we got the question from the insurance companies.
Had the house been built in 1941 the question would not have been asked.
Actually glad it was though.
Now the wiring will let the dryer, dishwasher, hair dryers et al. run at
the same time without having to go out to the back and flick the circuit
breakers which often happened in the house we were renting down the street.
Duckie

yeppers.  i hear you.  our house was originally built by a boeing engineer
and his wife back in '48.  the engineer was farsighted enough, when he
designed the utilities, to include a huge amp service (for that era and this
small a house) with an industrial scissor levered power cut-off switch that
instantly cuts off all power to the house.  that switch saved our butts and
our home during a fire--and i cannot help blessing that engineer for his
foresight.

the fire's cause was a faulty professional installation of a ceiling
heatlamp/fan combo, which cooked the wire insulation utimately causing a
short-circuit that didn't trip the new circuit breaker to that bathroom (as
is supposed to happen).  that fire involved both upstairs and downstairs
bathrooms and one of the attics, but could have been much worse.

had butch done the installation himself, the fire wouldn't have occurred.
but we relied upon the competence of our general contractor to hire
competent sub-contractors for the bathroom remodel.  both his subs, the
electrician and plumber were terrible and butch had to correct their work in
progress.  but butch didn't spot the missing protective cover plate for the
wires of the ceiling heatlamp/fan, because that installation was buttoned up
by the time butch got home from work.  a few months later, both new
bathrooms were toast (the upstairs bathroom is directly above the downstairs
bathroom).  damn incompetent sub-contractor electrician nearly killed us.

still, the engineer had only designed one grounded outlet, for the entire
house.  that outlet was in the old master bedroom for one 220-line
recepticle -- neither butch nor i could figure out what the engineer's
intended purpose for that was.  there's adventure, as well as mystery, in
discovering weird things when you buy old houses, eh?LOL

kate

d'huit wrote:

> knob and tube, as in ceramic knobs and tubes, with separate red and white
> or
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>>houses should replace their breaker box at the very least.
>>Harv
Navy - 17 May 2008 20:59 GMT
Thanks to all the information on can openers, jar openers, and circuit
breakers.  The quote of the one I think I'll use will "ground all existing
outlet devices in sun room, attic, middle bathroom, added bedroom closet,
and kitchen area.  Install GFCI devices in [old] bathroom, and above
counters in kitchen."  That will cover what I need to have done.  The other
outlets are grounded to a solid ground, or through the power line.  The new
circuit breaker panel is almost double the old one.

We got the can opener one and Mom can't wait to use it!  What does everybody
think of the new soup cans with the pull tab.  I don't like them, sore hands
aside, the dumb things can't be completely emptied without a lot of digging
around the edge.  Yuck!

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>I was wondering if I could get some feedback on those new "drop on top and
>it opens the can" can and jar openers.  My Mom has trouble with the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks, folks
Jo Firey - 17 May 2008 21:08 GMT
> Thanks to all the information on can openers, jar openers, and circuit
> breakers.  The quote of the one I think I'll use will "ground all
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> them, sore hands aside, the dumb things can't be completely emptied
> without a lot of digging around the edge.  Yuck!

I hate the pull tab cans.  Mostly because I'm getting old and cranky.

Besides they are rough on my fake nails.

Jo
High Miles - 17 May 2008 23:24 GMT
> Thanks to all the information on can openers, jar openers, and circuit
> breakers.  The quote of the one I think I'll use will "ground all existing
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> aside, the dumb things can't be completely emptied without a lot of digging
> around the edge.  Yuck!

I use one of those "J hook" devices to lift the tab and usually just
swish a bit
of bottled water around to liberate the last of the barley, or whatever.
I'm completely sold on pull tab cans.........................for now at
least.
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 18 May 2008 03:12 GMT
Navy, I can't open them just with my hand.  I stick a knife handle through
the tab and prize up from the edge of the can.  I also hate the ripples in
the sides of the cans; you can't ever get all of the stuff out!
Gwe

Thanks to all the information on can openers, jar openers, and circuit
breakers.  The quote of the one I think I'll use will "ground all existing
outlet devices in sun room, attic, middle bathroom, added bedroom closet,
and kitchen area.  Install GFCI devices in [old] bathroom, and above
counters in kitchen."  That will cover what I need to have done.  The other
outlets are grounded to a solid ground, or through the power line.  The new
circuit breaker panel is almost double the old one.

We got the can opener one and Mom can't wait to use it!  What does everybody
think of the new soup cans with the pull tab.  I don't like them, sore hands
aside, the dumb things can't be completely emptied without a lot of digging
around the edge.  Yuck!

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>I was wondering if I could get some feedback on those new "drop on top and
>it opens the can" can and jar openers.  My Mom has trouble with the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
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> Thanks, folks
Navy - 20 May 2008 21:09 GMT
I can't open them with my hand either.  Thank goodness for those  j-hook
thingies.  It's just that stuff gets under the edge and you can't get it out
with a reasonable amount of rinsing.  Too much and you end up with watery
stuff.  I wonder who came up with those things?

Can opener works fine - thanks for the feedback on it.  I don't know whether
we need the jar opener yet.

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> Navy, I can't open them just with my hand.  I stick a knife handle through
> the tab and prize up from the edge of the can.  I also hate the ripples in
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>> Thanks, folks
d'huit - 24 May 2008 20:56 GMT
I can't open them with my hand either.  Thank goodness for those  j-hook
thingies.  It's just that stuff gets under the edge and you can't get it out
with a reasonable amount of rinsing.  Too much and you end up with watery
stuff.  I wonder who came up with those things?

Can opener works fine - thanks for the feedback on it.  I don't know whether
we need the jar opener yet.

y'know . . . it's funny i never thought of opening jars as being difficult
for most of my life.  but that new one touch is heaven sent.  no more church
keys under the lid's edge to pop the lid seal or running hot water on it or
tapping edges or turning the jar upsidedown and rapping the lid on a flat
surface or any of a half-dozen other things i used to do.  have i mentioned
i love my jar opener?<g>

kate
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> Navy, I can't open them just with my hand.  I stick a knife handle through
> the tab and prize up from the edge of the can.  I also hate the ripples in
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>> Thanks, folks

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