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ANN M - 08 May 2008 14:39 GMT
My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one that
is Chair Height.  My knees have never been so happy!!!!   It's a larger
unit, takes up more space, costs more money than a standard one, but is
soooo worth it.  I highly recommend it to any one with arthritis.
It's been here for less than a week and already my girlfriend and my
cousin have both told their husbands that this is a "must have" item for
their homes too.

Ann
High Miles - 08 May 2008 21:49 GMT
> My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one that
> is Chair Height.  My knees have never been so happy!!!!   It's a larger
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>
> Ann  

When my Mom turned 85, her knees had really become a problem, so
we installed a 'high boy' toilet for her.
Have to admit, it's a treat for me to use as well, and I've considered
replacing one of the toilets here with one I could get up from without
"leaning" on something for a push.

Dorothy
Alice Faber - 09 May 2008 01:06 GMT
> > My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one that
> > is Chair Height.  My knees have never been so happy!!!!   It's a larger
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> replacing one of the toilets here with one I could get up from without
> "leaning" on something for a push.

I'm redoing my bathrooms. (Well, I'm doing one this year and I'll do the
other one next year.) I really want one of the higher toilets; my
parents have them in their retirement cottage, and it makes such a
difference. Since I'm getting a new toilet anyway, it only adds about
$100 to the price. My only worry is that a family with kids wouldn't
want to buy a house with a raised toilet in the main bathroom.

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High Miles - 09 May 2008 02:35 GMT
>>> My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one that
>>> is Chair Height.  My knees have never been so happy!!!!   It's a larger
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> $100 to the price. My only worry is that a family with kids wouldn't
> want to buy a house with a raised toilet in the main bathroom.

Screw 'em.

It's your home now, and your time to live a comfortable life in it.

They can give the short leggers a little step stool, the way we did
when our kids were little.
It's unlikely to keep folks from buying a house they like.

Dorothy
Nann Bell - 09 May 2008 14:05 GMT
t's an easy enough change that I, too, doubt it would keep folks from buying.
Alternatively, you could just put the raised seat in the bathroom you use
most often - or at least use most often during the most painful part of the
day.

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>> I'm redoing my bathrooms. (Well, I'm doing one this year and I'll do the
>> other one next year.) I really want one of the higher toilets; my
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> Dorothy

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d'huit - 10 May 2008 07:57 GMT
t's an easy enough change that I, too, doubt it would keep folks from
buying.
Alternatively, you could just put the raised seat in the bathroom you use
most often - or at least use most often during the most painful part of the
day.

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i, too, agree.  it wouldn't stop anyone with half a brain from buying a
house.  toilets are not that big a deal to change at all.  i even did it
once, all by myself.  it was just a matter of turning off the water main and
the supply line water, flushing the water out of the tank, uncoupling the
old supply line (letting the residual water drain into a bucket or dishpan)
and removing base nuts, scraping out the old wax donut, popping in a new wax
donut, positioning the new toilet, tightening up the new nuts on the bolts
with an alternating and equal number of turns/equal pressure (so you don't
crack the base), putting the caps on the nuts, reconnecting a new supply
line (with some teflon tape on the threads, so it doesn't leak) and turning
on the water main and the supply line water again.  that's all there is to
it.  definitely does not take genius to do.

and heck, didn't most of us who grew up in the '40s and '50s have little
step stools anyway, when we were children, so we could use the comode?  i
know we did.

kate
(who is now thinking about a new and higher toilet for here.  sounds like a
great idea and a back saver to me!  i often jar my back sitting down, when
i'm stoved up.  but i'll let my son install the new one, this time.<smile>)

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On Thu, 8 May 2008 21:35:00 -0400, High Miles wrote
(in message <p8KdnXmZjPMyN77VnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast.com>):

> Alice Faber wrote:
>> I'm redoing my bathrooms. (Well, I'm doing one this year and I'll do the
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>
> Dorothy

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ANN M - 10 May 2008 15:50 GMT
The new toilet is only about 2 inches higher than a standard one.  The
seat extenders that you can add to the present toilet are more like 4
inches higher if I remember correctly.  I wouldn't think that anyone
looking to buy a house would pay much  attention to it unless they were
gimps too.
Ann
Alice Faber - 10 May 2008 16:18 GMT
> The new toilet is only about 2 inches higher than a standard one.  The
> seat extenders that you can add to the present toilet are more like 4
> inches higher if I remember correctly.  I wouldn't think that anyone
> looking to buy a house would pay much  attention to it unless they were
> gimps too.
> Ann

OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model today.

Now, does anybody have any thoughts on white vs cream/beige?

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d'huit - 10 May 2008 18:37 GMT
In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:

> The new toilet is only about 2 inches higher than a standard one.  The
> seat extenders that you can add to the present toilet are more like 4
> inches higher if I remember correctly.  I wouldn't think that anyone
> looking to buy a house would pay much  attention to it unless they were
> gimps too.
> Ann

OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model today.

Now, does anybody have any thoughts on white vs cream/beige?

uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower?  i'd first try to
match those as closely in color as possible.

only if that's not possible, would i try to pull the complementary color of
either the white or beige from the permanent surrounds, from like the
formica/tile/corian/acrylic vanity top or the visible tub surround (that is
not hidden by a shower curtain or glass door). try to tie/anchor the new
permanent to the old permanent with color choice.  just my opinion, for the
almost 2 cents it's worth.

kate

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Alice Faber - 10 May 2008 19:05 GMT
> In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
>  ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:
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> permanent to the old permanent with color choice.  just my opinion, for the
> almost 2 cents it's worth.

Tub is white, with tiling around it that is off-white with speckles. The
new floor is a light beige tile, and the vanity top is a multi-colored
with white, beige, and specks of brown and orange. Right now, towels and
mats are burgundy and rose, but that can change; I've held off on new
towels until I did the rest. And I haven't chosen paint for the walls
yet. Right now it's pink, but I'm not going to stick with that. It will
probably be beige or a light melon.

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d'huit - 10 May 2008 20:20 GMT
In article <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:

> In article <1993-4825B619-1735@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com>,
>  ann1026@webtv.net (ANN M) wrote:
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> the
> almost 2 cents it's worth.

Tub is white, with tiling around it that is off-white with speckles. The
new floor is a light beige tile, and the vanity top is a multi-colored
with white, beige, and specks of brown and orange. Right now, towels and
mats are burgundy and rose, but that can change; I've held off on new
towels until I did the rest. And I haven't chosen paint for the walls
yet. Right now it's pink, but I'm not going to stick with that. It will
probably be beige or a light melon.

***as you've already likely surmised, you want to match permanent to
permanent.  non-permanent colors are considered to be things like
paint/wallpaper, accents, accessories and flooring (i know.  i thought that
flooring should be considered permanent, too.<smile>).  tile falls into the
either/or catagory, depending upon application.

if your sink itself, not just the top, is white like your tub, then i'd
stick with white for the commode.  if it's a one-piece top and sink, i think
you might get away with a beige toilet, if beige is the dominant color of
the one-piece sink/top, also depending on the tub tiles' dominant color.

 however, its easier to mismatch permanent fixtures and still tie it all
together, if the toilet is on the opposite wall to the sink and tub and if
the bathroom is large enough.  one of my bathrooms is roughly 8'x17' and my
commode and bidet are on the opposing wall.  so i could get away with white
for those, even though the shower stall, one-piece double sink and jacuzzi
tub are dominantly beige.  i was also careful to match all the metal
fixtures and accents (including toilet flushing handle), visible toilet
supply line, and the style line of the bases (the shape that touches the
floor) of both the bidet and toilet, to help tie it all together.

hope that helps and that i haven't confused you.  i'm not very good at
"telling", better at "showing".<smile>

kate

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Alice Faber - 10 May 2008 20:50 GMT
> In article <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>,
>  "d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:
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> hope that helps and that i haven't confused you.  i'm not very good at
> "telling", better at "showing".<smile>

No, this is good. Unfortunately, my bathroom is tiny. There's barely
room to turn around. I hated everything about it when I moved into the
house (7 years ago!), but just *had* to do the tile around the tub,
which entailed removing the glass shower door on top of it. There's a
ghastly linoleum on the floor (beige with blue flowers), and the
built-ins (vanity, medicine chest, and light bar) are cheap wood; the
shelves are particle board. So all of that is going, and I'm working out
a way to add some additional storage space. The only thing that I'd
consider keeping is the sink-top.

Part of the reason that it took so long for me to get around to this is
the difficulty of finding a contractor/remodeler who will take small
jobs. I finally have one, and it's great!

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d'huit - 10 May 2008 22:26 GMT
> > "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
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> hope that helps and that i haven't confused you.  i'm not very good at
> "telling", better at "showing".<smile>

No, this is good. Unfortunately, my bathroom is tiny. There's barely
room to turn around. I hated everything about it when I moved into the
house (7 years ago!), but just *had* to do the tile around the tub,
which entailed removing the glass shower door on top of it. There's a
ghastly linoleum on the floor (beige with blue flowers), and the
built-ins (vanity, medicine chest, and light bar) are cheap wood; the
shelves are particle board. So all of that is going, and I'm working out
a way to add some additional storage space. The only thing that I'd
consider keeping is the sink-top.

Part of the reason that it took so long for me to get around to this is
the difficulty of finding a contractor/remodeler who will take small
jobs. I finally have one, and it's great!

***you're virtually doing a whole redo.  so, you're keeping sink-top and the
tub with tiling, if i'm reading you right?  sounds like a fun project.

for storage spaces, consider taking advantage of the spaces between your
studs that don't have wiring or plumbing in them for either the bathroom or
the abutting room (less expensive that way).  check out both sides of the
wall, you are considering for storage.  (we did a built-in, flush with wall,
pass-through linen cupboard and laundry hamper that you can load and unload
in the bathroom and in the laundry room, utilizing the stud space in this
house.  i did a similar thing in my cabin before i met butch, but created a
pass-through linen cabinet into the hallway from the bathroom, cuz there was
only one bathroom.  that way i didn't have to wait until someone was done in
the bathroom to put towels away.  i always consider hallways wasted space
anyway.<g>)

you are sooo right about finding contractors/remodelers.  tough to do.
wintertime is their slow time of the year and best time to find and hire
them.  the good ones are generally booked solid during the better weather
seasons.

good luck with your project and make sure you have fun with it, alice.  i
bet it will turn out lovely!  i hope you'll share pix with us, when it's
finished.

kate

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Alice Faber - 10 May 2008 23:37 GMT
> > > "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
> > > news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
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> the bathroom to put towels away.  i always consider hallways wasted space
> anyway.<g>)

I wish I could do that! The only wall that can get storage is shared
with the kitchen, and it's the side of the kitchen where the stove and
refrigerator are. I'll be putting a wall cabinet above the toilet, and
we're figuring out how to put a narrow cabinet right by the door;
there's total dead space there now, that's 17.5" wide and 15" deep. The
only thing in that space is a loop rack for a hand towel. When the total
bathroom is 82"x54" (not counting the tub), you *have* to make better
use of the space.

> you are sooo right about finding contractors/remodelers.  tough to do.
> wintertime is their slow time of the year and best time to find and hire
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> bet it will turn out lovely!  i hope you'll share pix with us, when it's
> finished.

I will!

I was going to go toilet shopping this afternoon, but I got busy in the
yard, and my toe doesn't want me to go walking through Home Depot right
now.

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Jo Firey - 11 May 2008 00:51 GMT
>> > > "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
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>> > > > OK..you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to pick out a model
>> > > > today.

>> good luck with your project and make sure you have fun with it, alice.
>> i
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> yard, and my toe doesn't want me to go walking through Home Depot right
> now.

That is what the electric carts are for!

Jo
Kelly - 11 May 2008 01:03 GMT
I have a Toto low flush handicap toilet and I love it!  Wouldn't do without
it.  The handicap toilets now are a little lower than the old ones and for
people like me 5'3" they are perfect.  One thing I would try to do in my
bathroom and one day probably will is put a small cabinet between my tub and
my toilet to put toilet paper, tissue, stuff that I need while there (a gimp
friendly cupboard) and somewhere to put my book.  It would also act as a
grab area to stand with.  Just my change.  I do have a tile floor in my
bathroom with the heat underneath and I love it.  It saves having to put a
baseboard heater in there (a problem for small bathrooms), keeps the
bathroom toasty warm and the floor warm in the middle of the night (as I
always seem to be there at some part of the night.  I hate pedestal sinks as
there is no storage and am partial to white or beige fixtures as they never
go out of style (remember the avocado ones - out of style definitely.)

Sounds exciting.  Don't forget - you can research these online now - easier
than traipsing through home depot in person! What did we do without research
online! And purchasing!  Gimp friendly!!

I envy you your yard.  My soil in my raised beds went in this morning so
next week I get to plant again.  Can reach some by scooter, some by sitting
on the walls and some I will have to get Pat or someone to plant for me.  I
will be able to weed from my scooter with tools.  The paths are 4' wide
(which my husband keeps harping that it looks too wide - less to weed and
nothing to mow and will allow my scooter and one person to walk side by
side.  what not to like.  when I eventually get thyme etc planted between -
well it will look great!

Take care Alice - sounds like an exciting and doeable job.

Kelly

>> > > "Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:afaber-CFCBC5.11182410052008@reader2.panix.com...
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> yard, and my toe doesn't want me to go walking through Home Depot right
> now.
Duckie - 12 May 2008 02:24 GMT
Get white. If things have to be changed in the future -- you KNOW you
will be able to match the white and that the white will be available.
Can't tell you of the number of bubblegum pink or harvest gold toilets I
have seen come out of remodeling houses. White is good for another thing
as well -- my mother had about 28 kidney stones before they figured out
where they were coming from and fixed things. A white toilet lets you
see blood in the urine easily.
Duckie

> In article <35OdnSJGh6TSQLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com>,
>  "d'huit" <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:
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>
> kate
Nann Bell - 11 May 2008 03:38 GMT
> uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower?  i'd first try to
> match those as closely in color as possible.
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> permanent to the old permanent with color choice.  just my opinion, for the
> almost 2 cents it's worth.

yuppers - I agree with kate.  Thank you kate for saying it as I am way too
tired to type it out.  It's been a very busy week of getting stuff done
before vacation (leave for Paris on tuesday!) (yes, France, not Paris
Tennessee, where we happen to haev friends.)

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sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 11 May 2008 03:43 GMT
Nann, don't be too tired when you leave for Paris even if you don't get
everything done.  It will be there when you get back.  Hope you two will
have  a wonderful time and you will not be bothered with pain while gone.
Just think of all of us while there and how much we would like to be with
you!
Gwen

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> uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower?  i'd first try to
> match those as closely in color as possible.
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> the
> almost 2 cents it's worth.

yuppers - I agree with kate.  Thank you kate for saying it as I am way too
tired to type it out.  It's been a very busy week of getting stuff done
before vacation (leave for Paris on tuesday!) (yes, France, not Paris
Tennessee, where we happen to haev friends.)

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Harvey R. Stone - 11 May 2008 14:46 GMT
and those are my thoughts too.
Harv

> Nann, don't be too tired when you leave for Paris even if you don't get
> everything done.  It will be there when you get back.  Hope you two will
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> before vacation (leave for Paris on tuesday!) (yes, France, not Paris
> Tennessee, where we happen to haev friends.)
Nann Bell - 12 May 2008 04:30 GMT
> Nann, don't be too tired when you leave for Paris even if you don't get
> everything done.  It will be there when you get back.  Hope you two will
> have  a wonderful time and you will not be bothered with pain while gone.
> Just think of all of us while there and how much we would like to be with
> you!
> Gwen

well, Gwen, I'm trying not to be too tired, but some stuff just couldn't
wait!  A lot of work went into ammeliorating the after-effects of our sump
pump failure 9 days ago.  Mike swept & mopped most of the water, but I've
been dealing with the mold & mildew, getting rid of boxes and airing out some
fabric - and we've both been moving the fabric completely up  off the floor
as this last flood affected areas none of the previous floods have hit.  We
both had major sinus problems for a while from the mold drifting up, but Mike
is so sensitive to the mold and to the chemicals that kill it that dealing
with it had to be my job.  

then my trees & bushes arrived from the Arbor Day Foundation Thursday.  Mike
dug the holes for me and I got them in the ground that afternoon.  But first
there was our regular food pantry duty - and our county has the second
highest unemployment of this rather economically depressed state so the food
pantry has been really busy of late.

And Saturday we attended an important conference downstate.  we had two
others riding with us, so I couldn't just settle back and listen to our
current book on tape (David McCullough's 1776) during the drive.  And the
pews at the church hosting the conference were uncomfortable to the point of
being evil.  Many of us spent the afternoon session hovering in the foyer.  
Standing was better than any more time in those pews.  

In and around other stuff, I've been touching up my thrift store lambskin
jacket so it's truly black rather than worn looking for this trip.  In the
past 3.5 years, I've put about $6 of shoe polish and leather dye on my $3
jacket!  I don't anticipate ever again finding a lambskin jacket I can
afford, so I want to care for this one!  lol

But....... the trees we planted in grassy areas will have to wait for their
grass-clearing & mulching process until our return. And I'm not worrying
about completing any of the pending sewing projects.  I have some emails I
need to get out, but otherwise, i think I'll just do preparing to depart
activities now!

While i still have definite joint pain in a variety of places, the GOOD news
is that getting me back on Arava has really helped my energy level.  As we
all know, it's easier to deal with the pain if you aren't totally exhausted
as well!  Fortunately, we travel really well together and work out doing
things in ways my body can handle.  i thought about asking for some dose
packs, but decided as long as it's just Mike & I on this trip, I'd rather not
deal with the turmoil of medrol.  We will absolutely manage to have a blast!  
Heck, we just enjoy sitting in parks, watching folks and picking up bits
about te culture that way.

oh, but I still need to check out the trial photos I took with my new
camera.... sigh.... and I always leave one shot of Puddin' on the SD cards
because that silly cat has us so captivated we miss him when we travel.

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Kelly - 11 May 2008 05:16 GMT
Can I go too?  I will be with you in spirit Nann - have a great time!

Kelly
Nann Bell - 12 May 2008 04:30 GMT
> Can I go too?  I will be with you in spirit Nann - have a great time!
>
> Kelly

there's an unused bedroom in our apartment!

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Kelly - 12 May 2008 05:10 GMT
I wish so much but the small trips I am doing this year will have to do.
Pat and i are renting a hotel room for a week on the beach of Parksville (2
hours away on the island) and my brother, his wife and son will be in the
same complex.  That is the end of August.  Will be relaxing unlike last year
where I had the low potassium and barely made it hour by hour.  The middle
of august is the pacific northwest quilting exposition in downtown Seattle
and 8 of us are taking the Clipper from Victoria and staying in a hotel
across from the conference centre.  The 8 of course are my quilting buddies.
Before then is 4 days at the Quilting Retreat at the world college at
Pearson College.  This is an annual event that I missed last year due to the
RA and my infusion.  I really missed it - 9 of us always go to this one.
Next weekend mom and my sister are coming over for a ladies weekend. This
again is an annual event and my husband and boys go to our cabin mid
province.  I cheerfully decline (10 - 12 hour drive and the old cabin we are
still in is full of mice.  Can you spell cleaning??  Not my place.  Early
morning freezing cold fishing.  Nope.  No newspapers, no radio.  Not me.)

So no Paris this year.  Our big trips are weekends away but that is okay.
Next year.  We have just spent so much on the rituxan but nice that it is
working.  I have no swollen joints and I have gone from 10 mg of prednisone
in November to 6 mg of prednisone now.  Still tired sometimes, still
definitely sore but doing more so that is to be expected.  Feels good to be
getting there though.

Have a great time Nann and dry out that fabric - nothing worse than mildewy
fabric.  yuck.  Some of mine smells after being in the garage during the
move.  Still trying to rewash some but it is hard.  So much and some pieces
aren't big.  The problems with quilters.

Take care,
Kelly

>> Can I go too?  I will be with you in spirit Nann - have a great time!
>>
>> Kelly
>
> there's an unused bedroom in our apartment!
Nann Bell - 12 May 2008 14:42 GMT
> I wish so much but the small trips I am doing this year will have to do.
> Pat and i are renting a hotel room for a week on the beach of Parksville (2
> hours away on the island) .................  The middle
> of august is the pacific northwest quilting exposition in downtown Seattle
> and 8 of us are taking the Clipper from Victoria and staying in a hotel
> across from the conference centre.  The 8 of course are my quilting buddies.

do you suppose it is ever possible to get through to family & friends just
how deeply we appreciate the ways in which they make it possible for us to do
things we couldn't manage on our own?

I suspect next summer's vacation wil be camping somewhere again.  I certainly
couldn't do that w/o Mike these days - and he knows when pounding in the
stakes becomes to difficult for him, we'll HAVE to move to a trailer.  I
thank him and tell him I love him often, but how can words let womeone know
they open or keep open worlds you couldn't access otherwise?

> So no Paris this year.  Our big trips are weekends away but that is okay.

weekends away can be rough on my body, unless we go somewhere with a
whirlpool or just stay within an hour or two of here.  At least Mike's
reached the age where he doesn't mind frequent stops while driving.  ;-)

> Have a great time Nann and dry out that fabric - nothing worse than mildewy
> fabric.  yuck.  

All done - fortunately we have a ~35 foot multi-line clothesline and we had
breezy, sunny days when I needed them.  Much of the fabric is temp. stored in
plastic bags though.  Don't have time to get it into something more
breathable until we get back.  At least the fabric's new home in the basement
is more accessible for me so I might geet more of this stash used - if life
will just let me!
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Kelly - 12 May 2008 22:16 GMT
Is there ever enough life to use up a stash??? Even if I stopped buying (as
if!) there would not be time in the years and i am young!

And no we can never thank family enough.  I do have trouble with the small
holidays but right now they are the easiest for everyone else concerned.  i
can go 3 - 4 days and then I have to collapse for a couple of days.  The
worse is long drives without lots and lots of breaks.

take care Nann,
Kelly

>> I wish so much but the small trips I am doing this year will have to do.
>> Pat and i are renting a hotel room for a week on the beach of Parksville
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> life
> will just let me!
Nann Bell - 13 May 2008 02:24 GMT
> Is there ever enough life to use up a stash??? Even if I stopped buying (as
> if!) there would not be time in the years and i am young!

use up? NO!  But I can make a dent in it!  This is the separate
upholstery/drapery fabric remnants & old samples that I used to sell
shoulders bags made from.  We still have oodles.  I want to try making other
purses & handbags from it and try selling them  over the internet, if my body
will stay co-operative long enough.  Our favorite domestic travel carry-on
was made from naugehyde with a drapery fabric lining, all from this stash.

> And no we can never thank family enough.  

Mike's been getting extra hugs today since I had that thought.  When i tried
to tell him why though, I got quite choked up.  So many things seem minor,
small and quite natural to him, but are the very things that help me go on.

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Kelly - 13 May 2008 02:42 GMT
In our last quilt sale a couple of weekends ago the best sellers were the
tote bags for groceries that would fold into a small bag.  They were
inexpensive (about $10. - 20) but sold well.  Not a lot of work to them.

We had a competition and I made an elegant tote.  Didn't win a thing but it
was so much fun.  There were 39 entries and some were so incredible -
evening bags, totes, shoulder bags etc.

It is hard to tell someone what little things make a difference.  It is not
always the big things.

Take care Nann,
Kelly

>> Is there ever enough life to use up a stash??? Even if I stopped buying
>> (as
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> small and quite natural to him, but are the very things that help me go
> on.
Carole - 13 May 2008 18:07 GMT
> Mike's been getting extra hugs today since I had that thought.  When i tried
> to tell him why though, I got quite choked up.  So many things seem minor,
> small and quite natural to him, but are the very things that help me go on.

That used to happen to me when I tried to tell my Mom things. But I got
to the point where I had to tell her things, so I just let the emotion
go with it. It made us SO much closer and she opened up and told me
things that I'd always wanted to hear :)  So tell him!

Carole
Nann Bell - 29 May 2008 15:40 GMT
>> Mike's been getting extra hugs today since I had that thought.  When i
>> tried
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> Carole

believe me, i do tell him!  In many ways and many times.  I usually don't
have to finish the though as he catches on quickly.  when I worked in the
hospital, i saw lots of folks who suddenly realized they needed to say
something or repair a relationship when someone as fatally ill or at midnight
before major heart surgery or, saddest of all, when it was too late.  I vowed
then to do all I could to avoid such situations.

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ANN M - 11 May 2008 17:17 GMT
Have a great vacation, enjoy Paris.
Ann
Aina Nilsen - 11 May 2008 19:21 GMT
>> uhhh . . . what color are the existing sink/tub/shower?  i'd first try to
>> match those as closely in color as possible.
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> before vacation (leave for Paris on tuesday!) (yes, France, not Paris
> Tennessee, where we happen to haev friends.)

Bonne voyage!!! :-)
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Squirrely - 11 May 2008 23:08 GMT
Have fun Nann also have safe travel there and back.

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> yuppers - I agree with kate.  Thank you kate for saying it as I am way too
> tired to type it out.  It's been a very busy week of getting stuff done
> before vacation (leave for Paris on tuesday!) (yes, France, not Paris
> Tennessee, where we happen to haev friends.)
Navy - 09 May 2008 20:06 GMT
When I did the remodeling of the whole house (ugh never again, living in one
half while they work on the other half), I had everything that was replaced
done with handicapped people in mind.  I've not hear any complaints from
visitors about the height of the toilets.  My mom still had to put a riser
on hers, but at least it's not so far for her to get up.  I did want to get
all remote controlled ceiling fans, but got rather complicated in getting
the switch for them, etc, so now we have to pull chains.  One thing we do do
is, where the chain would be awkward to reach, is to just turn off the light
at the wall switch, if available.  The only problem with that is, we can't
leave the fan on.

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>> > My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one
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> $100 to the price. My only worry is that a family with kids wouldn't
> want to buy a house with a raised toilet in the main bathroom.
vickie b. - 09 May 2008 23:09 GMT
A year ago, my son replaced one of mine and we used a "comfort
height".  It is convenient for me and I don't remember it being more
than a few dollars more!

Vickie B.
Donna G. - 10 May 2008 06:01 GMT
I remember when Duckie got her bathroom remodled when they still lived
in MA and she did lots of investigating before chosing one that was
raised, but not so much that most people would even really notice.  She
didn't want one that was too high.  There are so many options out there
now adays!

And, as far as children go, my parents have two raised toilets and both
are raised considerable, and the grandkids as they were getting potty
trained, just used a little step stool.  No big deal for them and then
they would slide the step stool over to the sink so they could wash up
afterwards.  Worked well for all concerned.

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A - 10 May 2008 21:34 GMT
I have been very happy with my chair height one that also has bars on it.
The bars take weight off hips and knees. It can be installed on a regular
toilet.

Abby

> My 35 year old toilet needed replacing so the plumber installed one that
> is Chair Height.  My knees have never been so happy!!!!   It's a larger
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> Ann
Navy - 13 May 2008 20:42 GMT
Isn't it marvelous how many new things are coming out for those who are
maneuverability challenged?  Do enjoy the trip to Paris.  I hope your
luggage isn't too heavy with the hearts of all of us who love to stow away!

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>I have been very happy with my chair height one that also has bars on it.
>The bars take weight off hips and knees. It can be installed on a regular
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