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OTP  I need a huge favor from you quilters

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shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 26 Apr 2008 03:52 GMT
Hi guys, I know there are quilters among us and I need some quick
quilt info.  I have some quilts that were passed down from my
grandmother and I think some of them were passed down from her
grandmother.  Anyone know enough about quilts that i could send you
pics and you could tell me what they are called and how old they might
be?  Kid's school project and I can't find the info on-line

thanks
m
Kelly - 26 Apr 2008 03:57 GMT
Go for it.  If I don't know the pattern it would be unusual and I probably
know someone who does.  I am not sure about dating them as I don't have a
fabric dating book but might be lucky enough to recognize from the colours a
bit.  No labels?  Of course not but might be lucky enough.

So send them onto me - I will be waiting.  I have quite a few books on
historical quilts and it is one of my loves.  How very lucky you are
Melinda!  Make sure that when you are displaying them or storing them that
you don't keep them in plastic, refold them in different ways so you don't
stress any one area.

Kelly in BC
> Hi guys, I know there are quilters among us and I need some quick
> quilt info.  I have some quilts that were passed down from my
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> thanks
> m
lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com - 26 Apr 2008 05:07 GMT
> Go for it.  If I don't know the pattern it would be unusual and I probably
> know someone who does.  I am not sure about dating them as I don't have a
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> > thanks
> > m

well that is good to know, kelly.  I store them in a cedar chest but
they are always folded the same way.  I'll change that.  I am going to
send pics as soon as I send this

m
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. - 26 Apr 2008 11:10 GMT
Unless the quilts are protected from the cedar wood it may cause
discoloration and staining to the quilts.  You need something between the
raw wood and the fabric.  Several layers of non-acidic, archival type tissue
paper will work or a layer or three of old sheets or towels or even plastic
coated freezer paper.  Refolding them periodically is a very good idea, too.
It prevents continual stress on the stitches and the threads in the fabric
at the folds.  There is a lot of info online about preserving antique
quilts..... I'm not into that, so my knowledge is sketchy.  But many people
layer them one on top of another on a spare bed with windows covered to
prevent sun damage, or roll them and store under a bed, or loosely accordion
fold them using a skirt type hanger on each section and hang them in a
closet.  You are very fortunate to have these old treasures!

Leslie

>> Go for it.  If I don't know the pattern it would be unusual and I
>> probably
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> m
Harvey R. Stone - 26 Apr 2008 15:48 GMT
> Unless the quilts are protected from the cedar wood it may cause
> discoloration and staining to the quilts.  You need something between the
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>
> Leslie

Hi All,,,,,   Did I tell about the time I ruined a family quilt that went
back into the 1800s?   It was made of patches from the uniforms of the men
in my fathers family back to the civil war (blue and gray).  My great, great
grandmother started  it and my mother finished it with my brothers from
Korea.
    It was in a box and I stored it in a wash house behind a home the wife
and I rented when we had 2 or 4 of our children.   Soooo dumb, stupid and
ignorant,,,,,,, it completely rotted and fell all to pieces when I was going
to show it to someone a couple of years later.   I have beat myself up for
that for years and my heart still hurts to think about it.   I watched
history crumble to my feet.   Did you know that history has a smell?  I can
not remember that musty, moldy with a touch of blood any more thank
goodness.
Harv

Ps   I probably have told you but I wanted to share my pain.
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. - 26 Apr 2008 15:57 GMT
Oh Harv, I am so sorry you lost that wonderful old quilt.  But you wouldn't
be expected to know how to properly preserve it, so no sense in beating
yourself up.  It's a miracle it survived long enough for you to see it.
Museums go to all kinds of heroic efforts to preserve quilts of that age.
You could not have possibly replicated the controlled environment of a quilt
museum.... and their quilts are still deteriorating even with the amazing
care those quilts receive.  I once read a quote that comforts me at various
times- it goes something like 'we cannot be held accountable for what we did
not know'.  Of course, that only applies to innocent mistakes, I think???

Leslie

>> Unless the quilts are protected from the cedar wood it may cause
>> discoloration and staining to the quilts.  You need something between the
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>
> Ps   I probably have told you but I wanted to share my pain.
shenmei9wise@gmail.com - 26 Apr 2008 17:20 GMT
On Apr 26, 7:57 am, "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO."
<quilteac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Oh Harv, I am so sorry you lost that wonderful old quilt.  But you wouldn't
> be expected to know how to properly preserve it, so no sense in beating
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>
> > Ps   I probably have told you but I wanted to share my pain.

thanks Leslie, for that info.  Harv, that story brought tears to my
eyes.
Nann Bell - 27 Apr 2008 01:26 GMT
Leslie, you speak wisely. Even beond what Leslie said, the fabric that made
up the quilt had already undergone much stress as military uniforms and was
therefore even more prone to decay.    

Harv, your story is touching even for one who didn't know any of he men who
wore those uniforms.  t must have been a truly painful shock to have the
quilt fall apart in your hands like that. It reminds me of a family we know
who was burned out last year.  The mother of the family said what affected
her the most was the loss of family quilts that had been made by her
great-grandmother and that she'd had as long as she could remember.  It's
really something how fabric can so connect with the fabric of our lives.

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> Oh Harv, I am so sorry you lost that wonderful old quilt.  But you wouldn't
> be expected to know how to properly preserve it, so no sense in beating
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>>
>> Ps   I probably have told you but I wanted to share my pain.
Jo Firey - 27 Apr 2008 02:17 GMT
> Leslie, you speak wisely. Even beond what Leslie said, the fabric that
> made
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> great-grandmother and that she'd had as long as she could remember.  It's
> really something how fabric can so connect with the fabric of our lives.

There is just something special about something that is made by hand,
especially if it was made for someone who was loved.  My sister is a
compulsive crochet addict, so we have a nice collection of afghans around
the house she has made.  On Easter, I looked around the house and it seems
like nearly everyone was curled up somewhere with one of those over their
shoulders or feet.  They feel like you are wrapped in a hug.

Of course the ones that are irreplaceable are even more precious.

Jo
Jo Firey - 26 Apr 2008 05:54 GMT
> Go for it.  If I don't know the pattern it would be unusual and I
> probably know someone who does.  I am not sure about dating them as I
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> that you don't keep them in plastic, refold them in different ways so you
> don't stress any one area.

Thanks for the reminder.  Better get my mothers/grandmothers quilt out and
refold it.  I also need to start looking for a small amount of fabric to
repair it.  Its a crazy quilt my mom  patched in the early 1930's literally
from old clothes that had been made from flour sacks.  So finding something
to mend a few weak spots and someone that knows how to do it is a priority.
Then my grandmother ran embroidery stitches in various colors between the
patches.  I hope Emily loves it someday as much as I do.

A few more weeks and she will be able to wear the dress that my mother
crocheted for me in 1946 and that Vicki wore in 1970.  I can hardly wait to
get pictures of that.

Bet we can get at least one or two more generations out of that too.

Jo
RhondaM - 26 Apr 2008 20:23 GMT
I have heard to store them in a acid free type tissue and to make them air
tight. I guess like a very large zip lock bag. They do make those and they
work great from storing all kinds of stuff. I would also think that those
space bags might be the trick.
> Hi guys, I know there are quilters among us and I need some quick
> quilt info.  I have some quilts that were passed down from my
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> thanks
> m
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. - 26 Apr 2008 20:57 GMT
Nope- nothing closed like plastic.  You cannot get all moisture out and the
fabric can get black spots (mold... mildew???) from lack of air circulation
and also develop a nasty odor.  NO fabric- clothing, linens, etc.- should be
stored when there is no air circulation.  And the items should be clean
before they are stored- bugs, ya know!

Leslie- working with textiles and quilts for nearly 50 years! (I started
sewing *long* before I was born!   LOL)

>I have heard to store them in a acid free type tissue and to make them air
>tight. I guess like a very large zip lock bag. They do make those and they
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>> thanks
>> m
lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com - 26 Apr 2008 21:58 GMT
On Apr 26, 12:57 pm, "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO."
<quilteac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Nope- nothing closed like plastic.  You cannot get all moisture out and the
> fabric can get black spots (mold... mildew???) from lack of air circulation
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> >> thanks
> >> m

Ok, Leslie, that does it!  Find me a house-I'm moving to Missouri!

m
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. - 26 Apr 2008 22:57 GMT
Well, of course, I would welcome you and it's a WONDERFUL place to live,
but..... you're moving to Missouri because I said you were not allowed to
store fabric inside a plastic bag or tub???   LOL

Leslie

> On Apr 26, 12:57 pm, "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO."
> <quilteac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> m
lavenderhouse3812@gmail.com - 26 Apr 2008 23:04 GMT
On Apr 26, 2:57 pm, "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO."
<quilteac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, of course, I would welcome you and it's a WONDERFUL place to live,
> but..... you're moving to Missouri because I said you were not allowed to
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>
> > m

That is exactly it!  Nope i't because my family is all either in
Minnesota or Springfield.  Its more the "sewing long before I was
born" part.   I figure we can hve some fun!

m
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. - 26 Apr 2008 23:09 GMT
You can only imagine what a wild and crazy person I am!   LOL  It comes from
being cooped up in a very small house with a TON of fabric and three BIG
happy dogs- The HairyButt Gang!

Leslie- a semi-youthful but gimpy 57 y.o.

> On Apr 26, 2:57 pm, "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO."
> <quilteac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> m
Nann Bell - 27 Apr 2008 01:34 GMT
> You can only imagine what a wild and crazy person I am!   LOL  It comes from
> being cooped up in a very small house with a TON of fabric and three BIG
> happy dogs- The HairyButt Gang!
>
> Leslie- a semi-youthful but gimpy 57 y.o.

oh, Leslie, you know the mantra .... those stacks of fabric are good wall
insultaion!  (hmmm, I need to move my stash to an exterior wall to make that
claim work!  How can I justify the stuff hanging in that interior closet,
trying to decide what it wants to be?)

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Nann Bell - 27 Apr 2008 01:26 GMT
> Nope- nothing closed like plastic.  You cannot get all moisture out and the
> fabric can get black spots (mold... mildew???) from lack of air circulation
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> Leslie- working with textiles and quilts for nearly 50 years! (I started
> sewing *long* before I was born!   LOL)

heehee - you and me too!  Though I've only been sewing for 39 years  ;-)  my
mom liked sewing too much to let us take over until she started working
full-time outside the house!

And Leslie is absolutly right about no airtight storage!  As a Florida
native, where humidity is a given, I learned about that early and vividly and
repeatedly!

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