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d'huit - 08 Apr 2008 00:09 GMT
so, i had my opthamalogist appmt. today.  based upon 20 years of vision
field test, 16 and 18 pressure (13 to 21 is normal) in my eyes today and
today's oct test being an exact duplicate of the oct from 6 months ago, my
dr. said i DON'T have glaucoma afterall!  YYYAAAAAYYY!  but, he said i have
extremely dry eyes and have to use eye drops, at least 5 times a day, to
keep them moist.  he didn't believe me when i told him i hadn't noticed they
were dry.  heck, who can notice piddly stuff when other stuff hurts so much
it keeps your awareness focused on what's more painful?

so, i've tried this eyedrop thing twice since this morning, thinking
eyedrops . .  no major skills required.  wrong.  i feel like a total spazz.

i keep missing and getting the eyedrop solution everywhere except in my
eyes.  i'm thinking, maybe i can't get my head back far enough, with my neck
issues, or maybe not.  tried doing it lying down and got the sofa wet.  i'm
holding my eyelids open and looking away, but i still miss.  i've never used
eyedrops before and didn't realize that it was so hard to do, without
drenching my face and clothing.  i swear i'm going to go through gallons of
this stuff a week and won't ever have to do laundry again (oh, and how i'd
sooo miss doing that.), if i don't get some help.

does anybody have any tricks or tactics to offer me about how to do this???
put eyedrops into your own eyes, i mean.  if not, should i just go swimming
or take a shower 5 times a day?<g>  what am i saying???!!!!  i am taking a
shower, only with my clothes on!  seriously, i need help . . . er . . . with
eyedrops.

kate
Kelly C. - 08 Apr 2008 00:15 GMT
Here's what I do...
Tip head back as much as is comfortable, and close the target eye.

Put drop of liquid into inner corner of eye, and open eye, tipping head in
direction of target eye.

Drop rolls into eye, and eye is happy.lol

Kelly C.

> so, i had my opthamalogist appmt. today.  based upon 20 years of vision
> field test, 16 and 18 pressure (13 to 21 is normal) in my eyes today and
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>
> kate
Jo Firey - 08 Apr 2008 01:26 GMT
> so, i had my opthamalogist appmt. today.  based upon 20 years of vision
> field test, 16 and 18 pressure (13 to 21 is normal) in my eyes today and
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>
> kate

No help with drops.  Charlie cannot put drop in his own eyes and its
difficult for me to get drops in his eyes as well.

Maybe you do so well at telling your body what it has to do regardless that
it just has to draw the line somewhere.

Does it have to be drops?  There is an eye spray I use when I'm at the
computer too much and humidity is low.  I find it easier not to blink for
the mist.

Maybe try this.  It works for me.  Close your eyes.  Then pull the lower lid
down by pressing your fingers on the skin under one eye.  Should make a
small cup you can put one drop into.  When you release it, it will moisten
the eye.

Jo
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 08 Apr 2008 01:51 GMT
Kate, I drop more on my face than in my eyes also.  If you learn a secret,
let me in on it please.
Gwen

> so, i had my opthamalogist appmt. today.  based upon 20 years of vision
> field test, 16 and 18 pressure (13 to 21 is normal) in my eyes today and
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>
> kate
Kelly - 08 Apr 2008 03:04 GMT
The eyedrops eventually got easier to do after a bit.  They do make a
difference and when I go below 5 in a day I notice it definitely.

Congratulations on the tests Kate.  One less things to worry about thank
goodness.

Kelly

> so, i had my opthamalogist appmt. today.  based upon 20 years of vision
> field test, 16 and 18 pressure (13 to 21 is normal) in my eyes today and
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>
> kate
Adelle - 08 Apr 2008 04:16 GMT
One tip is to look in the opposite direction - if putting in outer edge,
look across nose....

I don't try to put drops directly on my eye. I work at a mirror with head
slightly tipped back, pull down lower eyelid, and carefully squeeze out one
or two drops into space between lid and eye. Then I close my eyes and roll
them around to spread the moisture.

Also, Doug and I both have dry eyes. We prefer the more viscous eye gels
that are still drops, but remain in contact with the eye longer. They aren't
nearly as runny.

Adelle
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 08 Apr 2008 12:52 GMT
My opthalmologist has given me several samples of those. I find I still
prefer the refresh plus just saline type drop. For some reason, when I use
the viscous eye gels, it feels as though there's something in my eyes that
needs to be washed out. LOL

DeeTee

> One tip is to look in the opposite direction - if putting in outer edge,
> look across nose....
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> Adelle
Diane - 08 Apr 2008 04:35 GMT
Kate, here's how my eye doc told me to do it (also have very dry
eyes). pull out the lower lid to create a pocket and put the drop in
there. it is incredibly easy.

diane
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 08 Apr 2008 12:49 GMT
ROFL Sweetheart, I've had Sjogren's for many years now and don't even blink
when I do the eye drops now. Tilt your head back, open your eyes (use your
fingers if you need them), put the drops in the corner of your eye near the
nose. The drops will run down into the eye. After a few tries you should be
able to do it in just seconds for each eye.

Hope this helps, DeeTee (imagining her dear Kate in all contortions with the
eye dropper)

> so, i had my opthamalogist appmt. today.  based upon 20 years of vision
> field test, 16 and 18 pressure (13 to 21 is normal) in my eyes today and
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>
> kate
Nann Bell - 08 Apr 2008 15:19 GMT
hold the eyelid open, or somehow hold the open, with one hand and STARE
FORWARD.  Drop it with the other hand.  Concentrating on staring is key.  
It's not perfect, but it helps me.  (hhehhe, I'd never get the timing right
with kelly's techniqe, I fear I'm not as conordinated!)

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akbfNO@SPAMmindspring.com - 08 Apr 2008 18:27 GMT
>so, i had my opthamalogist appmt. today.  based upon 20 years of vision
>field test, 16 and 18 pressure (13 to 21 is normal) in my eyes today and
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>
>kate

Looks like the folks on here have already given you some good ideas. I
thought I would add just a couple of comments re:  dry eyes, which may
be of benefit to someone.

I discovered that my eyes were bothering me more when I used eye
drops/gels than they had before.  Turns out that I have to use
preservative free eye drops.  For some reason the ones with
preservative were increasing the pressure in my eyes, which was
causing pain/headaches.

My opthamologist also inserted punctal (lacrimal) plugs into the tear
ducts so that what moisture was in the eye area wouldn't drain away.

I also use "Restasis" (prescription eye drops) for a month or two at a
time, along with artificial tears, followed by a couple of months just
using artificial tears.  The medication in the Restasis drops causes
the eyes to start producing more tears.  Unfortunately, after using
them a month or more, my eyes start getting itchy, so I have to stop
for a while.  They do seem to help with tear production.

Here is a link to a good article on the topic:

http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/dryeye.htm

KarenF
d'huit - 08 Apr 2008 19:57 GMT
this is amazing, you guys!  it didn't occur to me that there were so many
techniques/approaches (and product types/viscosities) to using eyedrops!
i've made a list of these suggestions and am going to try each of them to
see which works best for me--meaning which approach best corrects for my
lack of coordination.  thank you!!!!

kate
(now, my electric bill and water bills can recommence their higher billing
charges, with the resumed usage of my washing machine/dryer and shower.
still, that's cheaper than gallons of eye drops purchased at ridiculously
high prices for tiny bottles of mostly water.  my first bottle was emptied
last night, in less than 12 hours--seriously.  and each and every time i
attempted to use the eyedrops, my cats transfixedly watched me do it.  they
were fascinated, and appeared to be telepathically communicating to each
other, "humans are mesmorizingly crazy!  you'd never see cats squirting
ourselves in the face over and over again!"  sensible critters,
cats.<smile>)

so, i had my opthamalogist appmt. today.  based upon 20 years of vision
field test, 16 and 18 pressure (13 to 21 is normal) in my eyes today and
today's oct test being an exact duplicate of the oct from 6 months ago, my
dr. said i DON'T have glaucoma afterall!  YYYAAAAAYYY!  but, he said i have
extremely dry eyes and have to use eye drops, at least 5 times a day, to
keep them moist.  he didn't believe me when i told him i hadn't noticed they
were dry.  heck, who can notice piddly stuff when other stuff hurts so much
it keeps your awareness focused on what's more painful?

so, i've tried this eyedrop thing twice since this morning, thinking
eyedrops . .  no major skills required.  wrong.  i feel like a total spazz.

i keep missing and getting the eyedrop solution everywhere except in my
eyes.  i'm thinking, maybe i can't get my head back far enough, with my neck
issues, or maybe not.  tried doing it lying down and got the sofa wet.  i'm
holding my eyelids open and looking away, but i still miss.  i've never used
eyedrops before and didn't realize that it was so hard to do, without
drenching my face and clothing.  i swear i'm going to go through gallons of
this stuff a week and won't ever have to do laundry again (oh, and how i'd
sooo miss doing that.), if i don't get some help.

does anybody have any tricks or tactics to offer me about how to do this???
put eyedrops into your own eyes, i mean.  if not, should i just go swimming
or take a shower 5 times a day?<g>  what am i saying???!!!!  i am taking a
shower, only with my clothes on!  seriously, i need help . . . er . . . with
eyedrops.

kate
Gary Z - 08 Apr 2008 20:15 GMT
Kate!
How about a funnel? :-)
GaryZ

> this is amazing, you guys!  it didn't occur to me that there were so many
> techniques/approaches (and product types/viscosities) to using eyedrops!
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>
> kate
Jan O - 08 Apr 2008 20:19 GMT
kate:

Good a few people mentioned Sjogren's Syndrome and PF (preservative free)
drops.  I have punctal plugs, use Lacrisert tear inserts, and do drops 24/7
(always the PF).  I've actually put drops in while driving but don't
recommend it.  Jano

> this is amazing, you guys!  it didn't occur to me that there were so many
> techniques/approaches (and product types/viscosities) to using eyedrops!
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>
> kate
Jan O - 08 Apr 2008 20:23 GMT
kate:

Good a few people mentioned Sjogren's Syndrome and PF (preservative free)
drops.  I have punctal plugs, use Lacrisert tear inserts, and do drops 24/7
(always the PF).  I've actually put drops in while driving but don't
recommend it.  Jano

> this is amazing, you guys!  it didn't occur to me that there were so many
> techniques/approaches (and product types/viscosities) to using eyedrops!
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>
> kate
Plantmistress - 08 Apr 2008 21:44 GMT
Add me to the list of dry-eyed people in the group.  I use the lower
lid pocket method myself.  I'm mostly just posting for moral support.

Shannon
A - 10 Apr 2008 00:53 GMT
here's what I do

first be surre you have the kind of squeeze eyedrops that can be put in
with one hand.

Get a hand mirror

lay back on a pillow on the bed.

put mirror close to eye with one hand, put in drop with the other hand.

works for me 100%

Abby

> so, i had my opthamalogist appmt. today.  based upon 20 years of vision
> field test, 16 and 18 pressure (13 to 21 is normal) in my eyes today and
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> kate
 
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