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Hello again.. family question..ranting  a little

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RhondaM - 30 Mar 2008 23:21 GMT
Sorry if this post isn't very clear but I do have to ask. Does anyone here
have trouble with family understanding what you go through with Arthritis or
auto immune dis?
I have family that thinks I should just get up and get going..ie clean my
house, go run a mile, do the yard..ect..and when I say family it is my
mother...I have asked her for help on several occasions..like three weeks
ago when I got out of the hospital..I feel like I am on my own most of the
time with no family support. I was in the hospital for cardiac related
stuff...I had a mild heart attack. just ranting a bit
Harvey R. Stone - 31 Mar 2008 00:56 GMT
> Sorry if this post isn't very clear but I do have to ask. Does anyone here
> have trouble with family understanding what you go through with Arthritis
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> time with no family support. I was in the hospital for cardiac related
> stuff...I had a mild heart attack. just ranting a bit

Hi Rhonda,   I have been dealing openly with my family for over 30 years and
they sometimes still do not understand what is taking place....  I guess you
just have to be there.
Harv
d'huit - 31 Mar 2008 01:57 GMT
Sorry if this post isn't very clear but I do have to ask. Does anyone here
have trouble with family understanding what you go through with Arthritis or
auto immune dis?
I have family that thinks I should just get up and get going..ie clean my
house, go run a mile, do the yard..ect..and when I say family it is my
mother...I have asked her for help on several occasions..like three weeks
ago when I got out of the hospital..I feel like I am on my own most of the
time with no family support. I was in the hospital for cardiac related
stuff...I had a mild heart attack. just ranting a bit

(((((((((((((((((((rhonda)))))))))))))))))  that's what we're here for, hon.

 it's difficult, whether you are on the physically hurting side of illness
or the observer's side of it.  just like some of us can go through denial
about our illnesses, some of the people we love and who love us can go into
denial about our illnesses.  they hurt, emotionally, while watching us hurt,
physically and emotionally.

kate
d'huit - 31 Mar 2008 02:08 GMT
oh, and i meant to add that, sometimes, denial shuts people down. then they
simply can't let themselves recognize/acknowledge the illness without
feeling their own pain about it all.  people have a tendancy to try to avoid
pain, if they can.

that's not to say that you don't deserve to have your own reality
recognized/ acknowledged and validated.  but maybe (and i can't say for sure
this will work), recognizing/acknowledging and validating theirs will help
you get what you need?

kate

Sorry if this post isn't very clear but I do have to ask. Does anyone here
have trouble with family understanding what you go through with Arthritis or
auto immune dis?
I have family that thinks I should just get up and get going..ie clean my
house, go run a mile, do the yard..ect..and when I say family it is my
mother...I have asked her for help on several occasions..like three weeks
ago when I got out of the hospital..I feel like I am on my own most of the
time with no family support. I was in the hospital for cardiac related
stuff...I had a mild heart attack. just ranting a bit

(((((((((((((((((((rhonda)))))))))))))))))  that's what we're here for, hon.

 it's difficult, whether you are on the physically hurting side of illness
or the observer's side of it.  just like some of us can go through denial
about our illnesses, some of the people we love and who love us can go into
denial about our illnesses.  they hurt, emotionally, while watching us hurt,
physically and emotionally.

kate
RhondaM - 31 Mar 2008 02:19 GMT
Hmm.. something to think about...That could be true..
I haven't thought of it in that way.
I just wish she were here for me like she is my sister..she took care of her
and everything when she had her hysterectomy. but when I get down with a
flare or like three weeks ago she acts like I should still be able to get up
and keep going..when I temporaraly can't.

> oh, and i meant to add that, sometimes, denial shuts people down. then
> they
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>
> kate
Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. - 31 Mar 2008 03:16 GMT
But a hysterectomy is *visible*.  And it will heal and she will get better.
We gimps are stuck in that invisible disability that drags on and on
forever... or so it seems.  People just don't get it.  Go bopping into the
store after parking in a handicapped spot- see the sometimes ugly looks you
get.  You won't come bopping out again after walking all over the store
pushing a heavy cart around or trying on clothing or shoes- and you couldn't
even bop into the store if you had to park waaaayyy over yonder.  But people
don't think like that- you parked there so you *could* walk around and do
your shopping.  It's a darn shame.  Best wishes for better days and some
compassion and understanding for you.

Leslie

> Hmm.. something to think about...That could be true..
> I haven't thought of it in that way.
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>>
>> kate
ANN M - 31 Mar 2008 19:01 GMT
I have a couple of  friends who don't ask me to go places with them very
often and I know it's because I can't keep up with them on shopping
trips, etc.  On the other hand, there is another friend who is very
solicitious of me when we are out together and is willing to stop and
sit for a few minutes when I need temporary rest.
You just have to accept people for what they are and what they are able
to contribute.  Some are selfish, others are afraid of sickness. and
even more just don't get that they don't have to do or say anything, but
only be there for us.  I believe your mother fits Kate's description and
just can't stand the thought of you being ill.
Don't let it get you down.
Ann
RhondaM - 31 Mar 2008 19:25 GMT
Yeah, I am starting to think that myself. I really didn't see it that way
but it does add up. I know if one of my kids were sick or had some problem I
would be there, but she is the type to deny(sp?) a problem. So I can look at
it that way and try to educate her and then sit back and wait for her to
make the move. Thats really all I can do.
Thanks to all of you to help me look at this in another way.

>I have a couple of  friends who don't ask me to go places with them very
> often and I know it's because I can't keep up with them on shopping
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> Don't let it get you down.
> Ann
Nann Bell - 04 Apr 2008 01:57 GMT
I've got a mild cold temporarily distracting my immune system, so I'm going
to weigh in a bit belatedly  In addition to the whole thing about anyone not
wanting to accept that someone they love is chronically ill, I think my own
behavior sometimes complicates me getting consideration or help from my mom.  
I often "tough it out" around her, not wanting her to feel any worse about
the wayward genes they passed on to me.  Also, because she can get TOO
solicitous, sweet though it is.  But then when I really need the help it can
throw her a bit.  I think finding that balance between helping, but not too
much and showing our pain, but not too much is incredibly tricky for anyone.  
I still don't understand how Mike and I work it out so well - I guess it's
just basic compatibility!

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> Yeah, I am starting to think that myself. I really didn't see it that way
> but it does add up. I know if one of my kids were sick or had some problem I
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>> Don't let it get you down.
>> Ann
Squirrely - 31 Mar 2008 21:32 GMT
Yeah I do Rhonda, but my hubby is trying harder. My boys have JRA, CFS, FMS,
and it looks like they might also have the adrenal issues and thyroid issues
but because they are young and it hasn't hit them like it has me being older
and all, they don't seem to take it seriously either.

My in laws don't understand it at all either.

So I just give it up and don't talk much to any of them about it.

But I find alot of people don't understand or get it unless they have it.
;-)

I know that isn't much help. But I do so understand what you are going thru
with it and  your mom not understanding or believing you.

Oh Rhonda, I hope you heal quickly from the heart attack. I can see why you
had it with all the stress you have been dealing with lately. I feel for you
and my heart goes out to you. You take care and try to keep calm and take it
hour by hour if you have too.

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I am nuts about you.

> Sorry if this post isn't very clear but I do have to ask. Does anyone here
> have trouble with family understanding what you go through with Arthritis
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> time with no family support. I was in the hospital for cardiac related
> stuff...I had a mild heart attack. just ranting a bit
RhondaM - 31 Mar 2008 21:43 GMT
Yep.. I am doing better.. trying to eat right now and control my prednisone
munchies that I get.My stressors have lessen. Hubby has really helped me
with that by taking on more responsiblity of taking care of the boys and
their activities. My doc wants me off pred because of the heart stuff but I
have been on it so long that he worries about taking me off of it
altogether. I take 5mg a day for the last 6 years. I did get a heart
association book that talks about whats good to eat and how much. I am at
risk of diabetes as well. So I am trying to nip it in the bud so to speak. I
did hear that dark chocolate has flavanoids in it so would everyone think it
is a heath food???(wink)
Thanks for understanding..just having someone to understand makes me feel
like I am not the only one.

> Yeah I do Rhonda, but my hubby is trying harder. My boys have JRA, CFS,
> FMS, and it looks like they might also have the adrenal issues and thyroid
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>> the time with no family support. I was in the hospital for cardiac
>> related stuff...I had a mild heart attack. just ranting a bit
Squirrely - 04 Apr 2008 05:34 GMT
I am glad you are doing better. I hope you do well on the foods for heart
health. I had Jim on them for a few years and then when I got so bad I
couldn't do the cooking or shopping any more, now he gets whatever he wants
to. He had a heart attack back in 96.

It does help when you have others that do  understand.

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Love and Hugs to all
Jo the squirrely one
I am nuts about you.

> Yep.. I am doing better.. trying to eat right now and control my
> prednisone munchies that I get.My stressors have lessen. Hubby has really
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> Thanks for understanding..just having someone to understand makes me feel
> like I am not the only one.
 
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