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Maria - 14 Mar 2008 10:53 GMT
I'm female 44, last summer I noticed my knuckles on both hands became red,
slightly swollen and painful.  As it wasn't particularly troublesome, I
thought nothing of it.  I began have occasional pains in my wrists I thought
perhaps I may have sprained them so I wore a splint for a day (or a night)
and it would go away.  Since Christmas things began to get worse, the pains
in my wrists became more frequent and I still could not account for how they
had been caused.  On a couple of afternoons (it always seems to happen in
the pm) I noticed pains in the centre of my hands, so turning a door knob
would hurt.  One afternoon my jaw became displaced and chewing was painful
and difficult for a few hours.

I went to my GP when I developed a horrendous pain in my left shoulder that
woke me up one night in January and which was so bad I was unable to get
back to sleep even after taking a few ibuprofen.  I thought I had dislocated
my shoulder, and I know what I am talking about here because before I had it
pinned, I had a dislocatable right shoulder.

GP put me on Diclofenac and ran blood tests and X-ray of shoulder.  X-ray
was fine but apparently blood showed my RF and CRP were high (I don't know
how high, I guess I should find out) so I have been referred to a
rheumatologist my appointment is next month.

I seem to respond well to the Diclo so the question is, should I stop taking
it for a few days before my appointment so the rheumy can see my symptoms
without it?  What do you guys think?

Happily so far my symptoms seem to be quite minor but I really would like
them to stay that way.

María
Walt Hanks - 14 Mar 2008 12:23 GMT
Welcome Maria.  Sorry you need to be here.

No.  Do not stop the diclofenac sodium.  Your RD (rheumatologist) won't have
any trouble diagnosing you.

I strongly recommend that you start reading up on rheumatoid arthritis.
That may not be what you have, but pretty muchall the inflammatory types of
arthritis are similar enoughto RA that what you learn will be helpful
anyway.  The arthritis foundation website (http://www.arthritis.org) is a
great place to start.

Good luck, and feel free to ask any question you have.

Walt

> I'm female 44, last summer I noticed my knuckles on both hands became red,
> slightly swollen and painful.  As it wasn't particularly troublesome, I
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> María
Harvey R. Stone - 14 Mar 2008 13:02 GMT
Hi Maria,,,,,   I want to welcome you to ASA and I am very sorry that you do
need to be here on a regular basis.   You have a great doctor to put your
problems all together and get you into the care of an RD because you need
that.   It took my doctor 5 years to do that.    Always be open and giving
with information with your RD.   Little things are important in what they
do.

  Here is a good site for information from an RD in South Africa to help
you get the most from your RD.    http://www.arthritis.co.za/drdoc2.htm
Please remember that in this newsgroup we are in this together and we care
about what takes place in our lives.   Stress and tension are not our friend
and making a persons life go as smooth as possible is a good thing.

Harv

> I'm female 44, last summer I noticed my knuckles on both hands became red,
> slightly swollen and painful.  As it wasn't particularly troublesome, I
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> María
DeeTee and Bob Taggart - 14 Mar 2008 15:58 GMT
No. Continue taking it.

DeeTee's 2 cents worth.

> I'm female 44, last summer I noticed my knuckles on both hands became red,
> slightly swollen and painful.  As it wasn't particularly troublesome, I
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>
> María
RhondaM - 14 Mar 2008 19:24 GMT
Agreeing with what everyone else said here.. welcome and hi.. I am not sure
if anyone has warned you yet, but there are some here that like to steal
chocolate..so watch your chocolate stash...(thats a ongoing joke).

> I'm female 44, last summer I noticed my knuckles on both hands became red,
> slightly swollen and painful.  As it wasn't particularly troublesome, I
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> María
d'huit - 14 Mar 2008 20:18 GMT
<gentle snip>

I am not sure
if anyone has warned you yet, but there are some here that like to steal
chocolate..so watch your chocolate stash...

(thats a ongoing joke). -- that's what you think, rhonda.  ha!

when i first got here, more than 7 years ago, i suddenly lost 5 pounds
overnight.  you'd think losing 5 pounds overnight was cause to celebrate,
wouldn't you.  it wasn't that kind of 5 pounds; one of these rapscallions
took my chocolate stash!

however, there is a big vault in the asa clubhouse.  so you have your
chocolate stashed in a very secure place.

kate
(also, there are those afoot, in asa, who love jellybeans; so, be
forewarned)
Donna G. - 16 Mar 2008 06:03 GMT
>(also, there are those afoot, in asa, who
>love jellybeans; so, be forewarned)

Oh, yum, especially if they are spiced jelly beans!!!   LOL!!!

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Donna
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1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......

2.)    J.K.M.A.
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 21 Mar 2008 04:35 GMT
> >(also, there are those afoot, in asa, who
>
>  >love jellybeans; so, be forewarned)
>
> Oh, yum, especially if they are spiced jelly beans!!!   LOL!!!

Spiced jelly beans?  Do tell?  Are they like the spice drops that
Brachs used to make?

Smokie Darling (Annie)

PS  Maria, welcome, sorry about the drifting topic, but I love jelly
beans and I miss spice drops.  As has been said, don't stop the
diclofenac.  Here's hoping that your RD and PCP will be able to get a
quick handle on your inflammation, and also hoping it turns out *not*
to be RA.

SD (Annie)
Donna G. - 21 Mar 2008 07:08 GMT
Yep, Annie, they are very similar to spiced gum drops which I also love
a great deal!!!

Oooooh, yum!!!  You gotta try some when you get a chance.   The spiced
jelly beans can only be found around easter, but they are getting harder
and harder to find, well, at least here in michigan anyways!

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Donna
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1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......

2.)    J.K.M.A.
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 21 Mar 2008 15:26 GMT
> Yep, Annie, they are very similar to spiced gum drops which I also love
> a great deal!!!
>
> Oooooh, yum!!!  You gotta try some when you get a chance.   The spiced
> jelly beans can only be found around easter, but they are getting harder
> and harder to find, well, at least here in michigan anyways!

Hey, if I find any here, I'll let you know and maybe I'll be able to
pick some up for you and ship them out?  I can try anyway.

My mother and I used to eat the Spice Drops, every day around 11:00ish
(am).  We'd play Trivial Pursuit (she changed the rules of the game so
that she had an opportunity to beat me, I used to be a trivia
hound).   Around this time of year, I always miss her so much more
(she passed in 1997 and I miss her more every day).  Her birthday was
11 April, she'd have been 62 this year.

Have to remind hubby to remind *me* to look for them.

Smokie Darling (Annie)
Donna G. - 21 Mar 2008 16:26 GMT
{{{{{{{{{{{ Annie }}}}}}}}}}

Hey Annie, maybe we can become spiced gum drop buddies and eat gum drops
together at a certain time!  LOL....I know it's not even close to being
the same as doing it with your mom, but hey, I'm game!

Good luck finding spiced jelly beans, they are very hard to find
anymore!

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Donna
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1.)   ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......

2.)    J.K.M.A.
Aina Nilsen - 22 Mar 2008 12:21 GMT
> Good luck finding spiced jelly beans, they are very hard to find
> anymore!
>
> .

And this you tell me now, after having me all curious and having made a note
for our next trip to the USA, LOL!!

Aina
the lurker in Norway
BettyB - 22 Mar 2008 16:46 GMT
>> Good luck finding spiced jelly beans, they are very hard to find
>> anymore!
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>Aina
>the lurker in Norway

Can you order online? I used to get Chocolate Straws in Chicago in the
sixties. Have never seen them in CA so I checked and there were two
online stores that carry them. Of course, I am now diabetic and didn't
order any more temptations.
--
BettyB  --  www.flamingo-code.com
"I have noticed even people who claim everything is
predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it,
look before they cross the road." - Stephen Hawking
Aina Nilsen - 22 Mar 2008 20:26 GMT
>>> Good luck finding spiced jelly beans, they are very hard to find
>>> anymore!
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> online stores that carry them. Of course, I am now diabetic and didn't
> order any more temptations.

I guess i could try to do so, but since I even don't know if I like them I
think it would cost too much to get them shiped all the way to Europe.

Aina
the lurker in Norway
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 22 Mar 2008 18:47 GMT
> {{{{{{{{{{{ Annie }}}}}}}}}}
>
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> Good luck finding spiced jelly beans, they are very hard to find
> anymore!

Didn't realize I was sounding so down...  Thanks for the hug though, I
appreciate it.  Yeah, we can eat spiced gum drops (if/when I find
*them* again!) 'together'.  Guess I'd better find them first though,
haven't seen any for a while.

I'll be looking for the jelly beans next week (yeah, I know Easter
will be over).  Haven't been able to do much of anything, but hey, the
flare may actually be letting up now.  I'll let you know if I locate
both the drops and the beans.

SD (Annie)
d'huit - 14 Mar 2008 20:29 GMT
welcome to asa, maria!

i'm glad you found your way to us, but sorry that you had the need to find
us.  hopefully, you'll feel comfortable enough to join us in our banter,
rants, commisserations, hugs, laughter, information sharing, question asking
and feelings of being part of this asa family.  there is a lot of wisdom and
knowledge amassed in this group and big hearts that share selflessly.

as many have already said, stay on the meds until you are told otherwise by
your physician.  your rheumatologist will not only be able to diagnose your
issues, despite the meds, but also, it will help him/her to know what is
working/helping and what isn't for you.

kate

I'm female 44, last summer I noticed my knuckles on both hands became red,
slightly swollen and painful.  As it wasn't particularly troublesome, I
thought nothing of it.  I began have occasional pains in my wrists I thought
perhaps I may have sprained them so I wore a splint for a day (or a night)
and it would go away.  Since Christmas things began to get worse, the pains
in my wrists became more frequent and I still could not account for how they
had been caused.  On a couple of afternoons (it always seems to happen in
the pm) I noticed pains in the centre of my hands, so turning a door knob
would hurt.  One afternoon my jaw became displaced and chewing was painful
and difficult for a few hours.

I went to my GP when I developed a horrendous pain in my left shoulder that
woke me up one night in January and which was so bad I was unable to get
back to sleep even after taking a few ibuprofen.  I thought I had dislocated
my shoulder, and I know what I am talking about here because before I had it
pinned, I had a dislocatable right shoulder.

GP put me on Diclofenac and ran blood tests and X-ray of shoulder.  X-ray
was fine but apparently blood showed my RF and CRP were high (I don't know
how high, I guess I should find out) so I have been referred to a
rheumatologist my appointment is next month.

I seem to respond well to the Diclo so the question is, should I stop taking
it for a few days before my appointment so the rheumy can see my symptoms
without it?  What do you guys think?

Happily so far my symptoms seem to be quite minor but I really would like
them to stay that way.

María
Maria - 15 Mar 2008 18:23 GMT
Thank you all for your kind responses.  I am very touched.  I hope I can
make a positive contribution to this group.

Love

María

PS  Hands off my strawberry chocolate champagne truffles!
Navy - 17 Mar 2008 21:57 GMT
According to all the information I have read, you shouldn't be having
champagne while taking rheumy type medicines.  :-)  Welcome to the group.
I'll let you have my chocolate as it gives me heartburn, bad.

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>
> Thank you all for your kind responses.  I am very touched.  I hope I can
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> PS  Hands off my strawberry chocolate champagne truffles!
d'huit - 19 Mar 2008 05:00 GMT
"Maria" <pilar@hoskins.me.uk> wrote in message
news:0OCdnaojQL-U1kfanZ2dnUVZ8uydnZ2d@bt.com...

Thank you all for your kind responses.  I am very touched.  I hope I can
make a positive contribution to this group.

Love

María

PS  Hands off my strawberry chocolate champagne truffles!

now, you've got the right idea!  just tell the sticky fingered critters that
your truffles each have a case of champagne inside them. ;-))))

i'm sure you will make a positive contribution, maria.  but you know what?
just your presence on some of the threads is support enough.<smile>

kate
Califchief - 18 Mar 2008 05:00 GMT
LouJean replied to Maria:

> According to all the information I have read, you shouldn't be
> having champagne while taking rheumy type medicines.  :-)

I asked my pharmacist and doctor about that (half of my
prescriptions warn against alcohol).  They replied that
they are warning alcoholics (the 2-fisted, 6-pack a night
drinker) and winos.

One or two drinks - a can of beer or a glass of wine/champagne
a week won't harm most people.  Our lab tests would reveal any
problem(s).


... Cats are like potato chips....You can't have just one!  
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Califchief - 20 Mar 2008 22:00 GMT
> Being half Spanish, I'm sure you'll understand that I really
> appreciate this information!

Well, I'm happy that the information was helpful.

"Everything in moderation" is a great adage.

 Joe N.

... Cats are like potato chips....You can't have just one!
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Califchief - 20 Mar 2008 22:00 GMT
Aina wrote:

> I slowly added a glass of wine a week until I could have
> 3-4  glasses with a meal if I wanted to.

We need to warn newcomers that your experience with ONE
medication may have worked with you.

But when someone has 5, 6, 7 prescriptions all marked
"Do not take with alcohol," or "MAY CAUSE DROWSINESS -
ALCOHOL MAY INTENSITFY THIS EFFECT," they should be very
cautious about consuming more that 1 drink a day.

All we have to do it remember all the "stars" who OD'd
on drugs and alcohol to be warned of the dangers.

That's why I'm happy with 2 or 3 drinks a week - not a day.
As I wrote in a previous post, "Everything in moderation"
is a great adage to follow.

... Friends don't let friends get a dog!  
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Califchief - 22 Mar 2008 05:00 GMT
Aina replied:

>  There seems to be more warnings on things in the USA than in
> Europe, and I think that has something to do with the way people
> seem to sue others more quickly in the USA.

You brought out some very good points.

Our tort system is in total disarray:

 (1)  Lawyers seeking "victims" (ambulance chasers)
      (some have recently been convicted or pleaded guilty
      to a kickback scheme between themselves and "victims")
 (2)  The peers on a jury who believe companies should pay
      through the nose because of a plaintiff's stupidity.
 (3)  Review boards consisting of an accused's golf partners.
      (both legal system and medical system)

... Wrinkled was not one of the things I wanted to be when I grew up.  
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Califchief - 23 Mar 2008 06:00 GMT
Aina wrote:

> I have seen those ambulance chasers on TV in the USA and it
> did surprise me the first time.  And our newspapers have told
> some stories that amaze me, also the monetary compensations
> people get, much more than I think most of them would ever
> make working for a lifetime.

I wonder if your newspapers, like ours, print only the filing
of a lawsuit and fail to report the verdict/final outcome.

Sometimes a jury awards less (sometimes more) than the "victim"
sued for.  Other times judges, either at the trial level or on
appeal, will reduce the award.

What really torques me are the idiots like the gal who burned
herself in the crotch because she set a cup of HOT coffee
between her legs.  Or the guy who picked up a power mower,
tried to use it as hedge trimmer, and severrd a leg.

In those 2 cases cited, I blame the jury as much as lawyers.

... Religious backup.....pray nothing goes wrong.
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ravi - 24 Mar 2008 15:47 GMT
> I'm female 44, last summer I noticed my knuckles on both hands became red,
> slightly swollen and painful.  As it wasn't particularly troublesome, I
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>
> María

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